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1701  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling $25 Wells Fargo Visa (for $20 in BTC) - useful for US address only on: November 25, 2011, 06:29:21 AM
I'm surprised nobody is interested so far..   normally you'd have to pay extra to get a $25 Visa - and here I'm offering it at a discount.

Well..  I'll even take 8BTC

Even if you're not particularly interested in a Visa, for a US resident you could just spend it on that new mrcoins.com site and come out 1BTC ahead!

1702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who else thinks Bitcoin is going to $1000 by Jan 1? on: November 24, 2011, 12:16:33 PM
Everyone in this thread is a bear, It'll be over nine thousand by Christmas for sure.
I personally guarantee I'm willing to sell at that price - which makes me a bear too!

1703  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Creative acronyms for Bitcoin on: November 24, 2011, 12:06:33 PM
Bitcoin,Bitcoin,Bitcoin,Bitcoin

Bitcoin Is The Coin Of Internet Nerds,
Baking In The Crucible Of Intense Notoriety,
But If Traditional Currency Overthrow Is Near,
Better Invest To Capitalize On Insatiable Newbies.


So it doesn't rhyme or scan, but I'll still call it a poem.
It's beautiful :')

Thanks!  Hereby released to the public domain in case anyone cares.



What are you, some kind of communist? Sell the rights to it.

Basically, I Think Communism Often Indicates Naivety,
But If The Copyright Officials Invade Networks,
Blown Is The Chance Of Inspiring Novelty.

Besides, If The Currency Opportunity Is Negligible,
Better Indeed To Charitably Offer Inconsequential Nothings.

Bugger, I'm Truly Coming Out In Nerdiness,
Brain Injury Through Coin Obsession Is Near Sad


1704  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Creative acronyms for Bitcoin on: November 24, 2011, 06:47:49 AM
Bitcoin,Bitcoin,Bitcoin,Bitcoin

Bitcoin Is The Coin Of Internet Nerds,
Baking In The Crucible Of Intense Notoriety,
But If Traditional Currency Overthrow Is Near,
Better Invest To Capitalize On Insatiable Newbies.


So it doesn't rhyme or scan, but I'll still call it a poem.
It's beautiful :')

Thanks!  Hereby released to the public domain in case anyone cares.

1705  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will anyone lend me 65Bitcoins if I pay you 50 back in Jan and 50 back in Feb??? on: November 24, 2011, 04:38:06 AM
ahh.. that's a nasty cut they take.
Well it's good you've got the infrastructure in place as an alternative way to get BTC anyway. Hopefully with increased volume and competition amongst SMS/phone providers you'll be able to get it down a little eventually.
1706  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will anyone lend me 65Bitcoins if I pay you 50 back in Jan and 50 back in Feb??? on: November 24, 2011, 03:57:01 AM
Although it's not typically the smartest thing to do to buy large volume of BTC through Dialcoin yet, it seems 65BTC instantly through Dialcoin would cost your phone bill £387 (about $600USD) based on your country and carrier selection. For your specific case that would be about 4x the price of bitcoins at normal exchange rate right now. Only use it if it's an emergency, but it's there just the same.

Presumably if bitcoin prices go a lot higher then dialcoin will become a more attractive option.
I know this isn't the thread for it..  but while it's come up,  roughly what proportion of the difference is a fixed cost and what proportion is a percentage?     Does it vary greatly by country/provider?

1707  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will anyone lend me 65Bitcoins if I pay you 50 back in Jan and 50 back in Feb??? on: November 24, 2011, 02:50:11 AM
And if bitcoins go up to $10 in between when you buy and resell your goods?

That $10 thingy you bought for around 5 BTC  -  fetches only say 1.5 BTC when you sell it at $15.     How are you going to pay back the full BTC amount?

1708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anybody want to get a collection of... on: November 24, 2011, 02:32:31 AM
Well seriously.. rather than just describing the method of execution of whatever monstrosity this is, perhaps he could describe the intention?

If it's for a group of people to back up wallets - it sure seems batshit crazy to me.
Wallets as I understand it produce roughly 100 extra private keys at a time by default - so what is going to happen here when some users do a lot of transactions and want to back up a new wallet?
There will be multiple versions that need to be seeded and various people clamouring to add theirs to the set..  etc etc, and some people who were reliably seeding earlier versions decide not to because they don't use those old ones any more but suddenly someone is hunting for it..

I'm no p2p expert (maybe that's obvious) but it sure sounds like a 'hey.. let's herd cats for fun and profit'  post to me.
1709  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will anyone lend me 65Bitcoins if I pay you 50 back in Jan and 50 back in Feb??? on: November 24, 2011, 02:10:46 AM
What will you do if 50 Bitcoins is worth a relatively large sum by February? 
Assuming you're an honest guy who fully intends to pay your debts - you're taking on an open ended liability given that the market is volatile and prone to irrationality.


Also - while it's nice you link to a real world identity, It unfortunately would still be difficult for many(most) to trust you.

It's sad, but often people who rip others off don't hide their identity. There are true sociopaths amongst us who will find ways to justify in their own minds why they deserve other people's stuff, and they tend to know the limits to which the law can be used even when you know who you're dealing with.

Good luck anyway..  I suspect you'll need to find someone local to even have a chance with this.
Also.. *why* do you need them?        If it's to convert to your local currency - then you should probably ask for the loan denominated in that.

e.g  Please loan me USD$150  in BTC  and I'll pay you back $200 in BTC.



1710  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anybody want to get a collection of... on: November 24, 2011, 01:58:35 AM
Anybody want to get a collection encrypted wallets together and put them on a P2P torrent on PirateBay? Just an idea.


Are the words 'idea' and 'brainfart' synonymous for you?
1711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is why we can't have nice things. on: November 24, 2011, 01:54:15 AM
I liked what Bruce did as far as bringing some brick and mortar merchants to bitcoin, and the associated publicity back then...
but now I wish he'd fade into the background and not put himself forward in any way regarding bitcoin.
I was disappointed to see his picture in that article.

Much as he *was* good for bitcoin - he now has the potential to be really bad for it,
so while I don't think we need outright animosity towards him,  some polite shunning is in order.
1712  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Creative acronyms for Bitcoin on: November 24, 2011, 01:47:40 AM
Bitcoin,Bitcoin,Bitcoin,Bitcoin

Bitcoin Is The Coin Of Internet Nerds,
Baking In The Crucible Of Intense Notoriety,
But If Traditional Currency Overthrow Is Near,
Better Invest To Capitalize On Insatiable Newbies.


So it doesn't rhyme or scan, but I'll still call it a poem.
1713  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: November 23, 2011, 08:59:52 PM
Quote
The Rise and Fall of Bitcoin

Benjamin Wallace
2011-11-23

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/


Discussion thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52714.0
1714  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: November 23, 2011, 08:13:10 PM
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Will Bitcoin Kill the Dollar?

Allan Harris & Corey Conley
2011-11-23

http://nvate.com/2177/will-bitcoin-kill-the-dollar/


The concept of a global currency seems laughable. Even Europe, with its thousands of years of shared heritage and culture, can’t all agree on the Euro, and their banking crisis seems unlikely to win over the doubters. You might be surprised to learn, then, that there already is a global currency. The humble “Bitcoin.”

...

If it continues to grow in popularity and enters mainstream usage, it could prove to be extremely disruptive to current economic systems.
1715  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: November 23, 2011, 07:52:17 PM
Quote
The Pros And Cons Of Biting on Bitcoins

2011-11-23
Constance Gustke

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45030812/

"If you love edgy bets, the Bitcoin may be for you."

1716  Economy / Speculation / Re: How will the european bitcoin conference affect the price? on: November 23, 2011, 07:51:07 PM
I expect roughly the same pattern as occurred around the New York bitcoin conference - except a bit more subdued as hopefully a little more realism has set in.
Slight anticipatory rise in price just before..  and a slight dip afterwards from disappointment that mainstream media didn't give exuberant coverage.

Ok.. this time we have a couple of bigger names in attendance, Max Keiser and Rick Falkvinge - so maybe there will be a little media attention, but I'm still not expecting a sharp boost to the price from this conference.
1717  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: November 23, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
Quote
Bitberries! Bitcoiner Uses Heat From Mining to Dry Strawberries

Adrianne Jeffries
2011-11-22

http://www.betabeat.com/2011/11/22/bitberries-bitcoiner-uses-heat-from-mining-to-dry-strawberries/

One Canadian bitcoiner has figured out how to make the wasted electricity produced by bitcoin mining slightly less wasteful by using it to dehydrate strawberries (organic ones!).


Quote
Dried Strawberries Bitcoin Style, Uses Heat from a Mining Rig

Kit Dotson
2011-11-22

http://siliconangle.com/blog/2011/11/22/dried-strawberries-bitcoin-style-uses-heat-from-a-mining-rig/
1718  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is user BitcoinPorn dead? on: November 23, 2011, 12:44:17 AM
Noooo!...  don't tickle such a sleeping member, or there will be a rough post in every slot. Tongue
1719  Economy / Currency exchange / [CLOSED] selling $25 Wells Fargo Visa (for $20 in BTC) - useful for US addr on: November 22, 2011, 03:07:37 PM
I made the mistake of purchasing a wells fargo visa gift card a while back, not realizing it requires a US address for registration. When the site said the card could only be used in the US, I assumed it meant the merchant side, not the customer, and as I intended to buy from US businesses I thought it would be suitable.

This isn't a physical card - it's the card number,expiry + security code.
I've already activated the card by phoning wells fargo - then discovered the address issue at registration page.  
Perhaps I could just register it with any old US street address - but it seems like asking for trouble as I'm guessing certain sites like google checkout would know if my name doesn't match the address.

Looking to trade the card for BTC - at about whatever $20 comes out at on latest mtgox. eg if 2.30  - then  8.7 BTC


Cheers,
Julian
1720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving away more free bitcoins!! on: November 22, 2011, 01:59:02 PM
I really don't get this site.
It's a gambling site more than a market/auction?  A mixture of the two?
Basically a consumer could run around clicking attempting to get stuff, and if they're not lucky - their account dwindles for no return?

Couldn't this site be gamed by some fancy scripts which click at the last instant?

I suppose I could take advantage of the free offer to try it out, which might help me understand it..
Just browsing - I get a strong impression of ponzi-schemes and gambling :/

If there are as the site says 'often huge savings off retail value'  - yet the merchant gets money even from non-winning bidders - then this money is in effect being siphoned off users who aren't 'good at' or 'lucky' using the site??


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