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941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 28, 2017, 03:39:59 PM
What will happen to unsold tokens? Will they be burned or used for community building?
can look on page 30 whitepaper: All unsold tokens will be burned.
but there is still time, I think the big investors are waiting for the last day , BTW what limit on 1 person?

Not 100% sure about the limit, but I think there is no limit at all. If you want to buy a big batch of tokens, you just can buy them.

on daily basis raising is 200 ether or more is big money. keep investors investing. but i think last week of ICO will raise more fast. but this time is actually is good time to invest on real estate because 20% bonus. but later on last week i don't think 20% bonus available.
Only 2 days left, token sale will end on September 30, 2017.
Waiting for some news  Smiley

A lot of ICOs will end the 30th of September, REAL is one of them, so that day a lot of investors will give some money to a few ICOs really fast, it always happened, this will be no different, let's hope REAL get a good chunk of it Cheesy.
Yeah, one of the many tricks of the ICO trade seems to be, to scout out other ICO startups, follow their projects closely, find a suitable date for your own launch, and then base your end date around theirs, especially if it happens to be a similar competitor's startup. If all the above fails, spread the F.U.D about your competitor, and flood the announcement channel, like they (Fudders) did Centra.
942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 28, 2017, 02:19:19 AM
Just yeasterday i was sugested to fallow this project when i asked my telegram frieds about huge future projects Cheesy its glad to have u guys at bitcointalk ! Smiley i liked the idea to make bots accessable for more ppl, this will scale the disbalance which is effecting markets now Smiley Will try to share my thoughts more when i digest the white paper

Every day more eager for the real use of this project and its algorithms, my losses increase every day in my investments and purchase orders, I hope to use your Bots soon and increase my earnings. Following

I have the same problem. I try to trade on the exchange on my own, I constantly get losses and disappointments. I want to try to work through bots.
bot is better - he trades by a well-defined algorithm, but human is passionate  - something went wrong as expected - it gives in to panic, and makes mistake , for this reason this project will be very useful

algorithm can just support a trader or your algorithm is an AI from the future big data and neuro learning feature. the positive aspect of using emotions in trading is called intuition.

Well, there is no really such thing as intuition.

Everything is based in previous experience, intuition is just a thing that recall you a previous experience and you judge the outcome superior to the risk taken.

So, trading bot backed by neural network would be surely way better than human. It just need the technology to study all the source of information a human has access to.
I don't remember his name but there was a Russian chess player who beat best computer with best AI. I know that this was a long time ago but still it's a good example. My biggest motivation is that Napoleon will trade without me so I can do other things  Cool

I think it was a loss. There is no way to win against computer on chess now, they can calculate every possible outcomes in less than a second, a human is nothing in compareason.

In fact, the guy you re reffering too is kasparoff, and it was in 1997. He won the first match and loosed the second.
The innovation of A.I always starts of with relatively small achievements, and as it's intelligence progresses, it gets better and better at every task it's given. Today it may be just a game of chess. Tommorow it will be someones job, someones livelihood.
   I'm all for human ingenuity, but I think that todays automatons, are growing increasingly intelligent, and that means that they are also becoming equally as dangerous. So, I sit somewhere in the between the two extremes, when it comes to automation, and human perseverance. On one hand, it improves our lives by taking care of difficulties we face everyday, usually over simplifying the process, all the while, providing excellent efficiency (often better than a human could). On the other hand, you have the Luddites (people who are simply terrified of technology), who are afraid that the A.I will rise up and destroy us all.

943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 28, 2017, 01:49:11 AM
Email just came through. There IS a presale:

- There will be a minimum required amount of 1 ETH to participate. This is the best way to democratize participation;

- There will be an individual cap of 100 ETH. We believe in the value of the PayPie platform and it’s in the best interest of all that tokens get spread out through a considerable base;

Actually most of the times, presales do for big investors and most of the little investors can't get near of it.

This one is looking like for little and middle investors. So they should be sure of big demand. It's a risky way for pre-sale for the company but very good for little investors.
Depends for who, for me 1 ETH is quite a lot to "gamble" but i get what you mean.
Another good thing about pre sale is to test the waters for future investors. If some small investors wouldnt be sure if they should join ICO, now they will have some idea where this project is going.  
The feelings mutual brother, it really does depend on where you stand financially, and how much your willing to lose. They say big risk, big reward, but every step should be taken with precision when dealing with cryotos, being theres so many scams these days! Thanks to the decentralized business model the crypto coin community has embraced, there's a ton of beginner investors like myself who eager, and are still learning the business.
944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 28, 2017, 01:37:24 AM
Almost 11 millions (36,218 ETH) raised! It may seems like not much, but if the ethereum shoot up in price this will be nice money for starting platform

It could further increase in Dollar value within 2 days as ETH price is going up and it will be favorable to REAL's stakeholders.

Crypto is a risky market in short term. In 2 days it can go up sure but it can also make a dip. You can't know for sure.

But i think they already made a plan about go to fiat. I don't think they will make all fiat 2 days later.
Yeah, things can be very volatile here in the crypto underground, especially with the big whales controlling the market, and the F.U.D that spreads, causing heavy fluctuations within the price x volume. This new market is very easily manipulable.
945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 26, 2017, 12:38:29 AM
I never found out what celebrity advertises Paragon. Can someone answer?

I dont think PARAGON need a celebrity to advertise the project because  it offers a solid and viable holistic approach to the Cannabis industry, and that attracts more supporters and investors rapidly in crypto community.
Your right, this is what I've been saying, They have all their ducks in a row for this project at this point, the celebrity sponsorship only adds a bit of leverage, and trust. I think they will become successful regaurdless of  any famous endorsements.
946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 26, 2017, 12:12:01 AM
Just got finished watching the Paragon ICO review on YouTube, by Youtube channel "Bitcoin for Beginners". The way the video broke down the whitepaper into the basics, helped me understand this project better, I too have read white paper, but did not understand many things until I watched the review. They break it down easy for noobs like me!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yepFa4KGasg
947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 25, 2017, 11:24:14 PM
Will there be a "Pre Sale" prior to the initial ICO?
CEO said in this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADRT-Xvekbc) that they are going to seriously think about the pre sale.
He explains also other interesting things in this interview which wasnt posted here before.

Thank You for posting this! The guy doing the interview really knows his stuff. Ever since the hack that took place at Equifax, I've been a little uneasy about credit risk companies, but Paypie is building it's platform on top of the Ethereum blockchain, a chain with the ability to implement smart contracts. I would rather trust a credit risk company utilizing a transparent blockchain, than the traditional companies of today.
948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 25, 2017, 10:44:46 PM
paragon will open 29 offices in state. what about paragon will physically open worldwode offices too or only in state?
I think Paragon will focus in those 29 U.S states firstly, and if that plan is successful, they will most likely push for international business.
949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 24, 2017, 11:32:22 PM
Paragon space is poised to be the projects central hub for the Paragon economy. The hub will united people from all sectors of life, lawyers, doctors, patients, etc. A lot of jobs will be created because of this company. Paragon will lead the race in all things Cannabis related. I've yet to see another project similar in any way.
950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 23, 2017, 08:15:07 PM
got little slower than before. hopefully pickup more tomorrow if they drop some discount code in telegram. we need some excitement at finish line. nice project and hope finish fundraising to project get successful.
Another good thing is the token burn, what ever tokens that aren't sold off, will be slowly burned, increasing their intrinsic value. Paragon is coming along nicely!
951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 23, 2017, 07:34:14 PM
Hilton is far from the first celebrity to hype ICOs. Boxing star Floyd Mayweather and American rapper The Game have touted the diverse digital token sales over the past month alone.

The Game has been promoting Paragon quite a bit. Which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling good about this project. Not cuz of The Game, but because the team knows how to do marketing very well. And in order for a Cannabis project to succeed, i think marketing will be important to achieve adoption.
Paragon made a purely calculated move by getting "The Game" on board with their project. The Game is a heavy smoker, whose public image is centered around a lifestyle filled with the fast life, money, cars, and Marijuana use. His advocacy is pefect for reaching the target niche market, plus he has a heavy backing by the stoner, and urban communities.
The Game isn't most known for smoking weed. Snoop Dogg is but he is currently probably too stoned for representing paragon. Anyway The Game can help paragon like Floyd Mayweather did
I never stated that "The Game" was only known for Marijauna use, I simply said, his lifestyle is centered around it, especially it being a hiphop (urban) setting. However,  I was not aware that "Pretty Boy Floyd" Mayweather jr. had also joined the advisory board, ans invested in the Paragon startup. How long ago did this occur, you say? Though personally, I thought he was involved in just "Stox", and "CentraTech" Ico?
952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 23, 2017, 07:18:10 PM
Let's say the Real marketplace is online for a while, it runs smoothly, profits flowing in. What happens if a wealthy investor sees the potential and wants to invest more money than the total market cap of Real?

For example, all real estate and tokens are worth $20 million total, but the investor wants to put in $100 million. How would that play out?


If a project requires $ 20 million why would someone want to put $ 100 million? $ 80 million will be useless because this project can run with $ 20 million only. And really, such investors are too greedy!

Have you seen the pictures in the whitepaper? Complete resorts consisting of multiple hotels. How much does it cost to build even a single hotel?

I don't know the development prices in Spain or the Caribbean (could be very cheap now after the hurricanes, with all due respect), but the average in the USA is $22.2 million according to this source https://www.fixr.com/costs/build-hotel and up to a million per room for lixury hotels and resorts according to this one https://www.hotel-online.com/press_releases/release/hotel-development-cost-survey-2014-15

So $20 million doesn't get you that far. You'd gamble your whole fund on just one hotel.

is this project telling us about buying hotel in early time? maybe, not.
this crowdsale is only for building REAL platform, legal set up, marketing, and other needed, not building hotel or other.
after launching platform, REAL team will offering to sell some property without build it.
so, $20 M is enough

Something I missed? I realized that this project collects funds for the construction of real estate, and not the purchase of the built. And now we are discussing the purchase of some hotels. It's strange.
I'm not sure where everything stands, as far as buying hotels, but I'm sure any kind of property, would be ideal for a real estate investment. I'm sure that whatever property REAL sets their sites upon, it is initially the crowd, who will put forth, and raise capital for the property.
953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 23, 2017, 07:09:58 PM
Just yeasterday i was sugested to fallow this project when i asked my telegram frieds about huge future projects Cheesy its glad to have u guys at bitcointalk ! Smiley i liked the idea to make bots accessable for more ppl, this will scale the disbalance which is effecting markets now Smiley Will try to share my thoughts more when i digest the white paper

Every day more eager for the real use of this project and its algorithms, my losses increase every day in my investments and purchase orders, I hope to use your Bots soon and increase my earnings. Following

I have the same problem. I try to trade on the exchange on my own, I constantly get losses and disappointments. I want to try to work through bots.
I guess it's easier to trade using bots, so as long as your level of expertise in the investment financial sector is intermediary. On the other hand, newbies will have a difficulty time preceding.
954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 23, 2017, 06:44:22 PM
Hilton is far from the first celebrity to hype ICOs. Boxing star Floyd Mayweather and American rapper The Game have touted the diverse digital token sales over the past month alone.

The Game has been promoting Paragon quite a bit. Which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling good about this project. Not cuz of The Game, but because the team knows how to do marketing very well. And in order for a Cannabis project to succeed, i think marketing will be important to achieve adoption.
Paragon made a purely calculated move by getting "The Game" on board with their project. The Game is a heavy smoker, whose public image is centered around a lifestyle filled with the fast life, money, cars, and Marijuana use. His advocacy is pefect for reaching the target niche market, plus he has a heavy backing by the stoner, and urban communities.
955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 21, 2017, 09:21:13 PM
Yes if you want to earn eth with your REAL you will need to go in the real platform to put your real on it. But its not a problem if you are a token holder and you like REAL and with that real estate you will be long term in Real project. There is a lot of benefit to do with your real token !
Yup, the token itself has the ability to grow in it's store of value, as well as your invested portion of REAL tokens, put forth into rentals, and sales of properties.
956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: September 21, 2017, 09:16:10 PM
I don't think the price will dump cause the aim is to use the platform and DAF after the ico. The project will take value in time very quickly with the first benefit of the first DAF. And if the DAF work very nicely, trust me the value of NapoleonX will reach the sky, the project is really powerfull, that kind of invest is really a need in crypto world.
Yes, your right, dumping the coins right away would be very negligent and silly, being that just by holding your coins, you will recieve a percentage of the gas, from the successful trades made by the bots.
957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] VIBEHub | Crypto Based Virtual Reality Marketplaces & Hubs on: September 21, 2017, 05:13:15 PM
Another virtual reality ICO. Guys, where is originality?  Am I the only one who accepting THIS reality? Cheesy
No, not really, it's the recent trend, everyone does.
Imagine the possibilities of a virtual reality you could visit the remotest places in the earth without any traveling costs.
Yeah, I believe that the Microsoft company is working on this exact feature you speak of, they call it holoportation. V.R (virtual reality) & A.R (augmented reality) reality will be the future interface for mankind, that will bridge the gap between the virtual constructs we create, and or actual reality. Reminds me of this movie,  Ghost In The Shell.
958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry | on: September 21, 2017, 05:04:18 PM
Have you tried contacting any of the devs on their official website? Let's not be so quick to jump to conclusions, or anything,  not just yet. But I do understand your concern regarding  the code auditing process.  Wink
959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: September 20, 2017, 05:58:09 PM
Why are the videos in the first page unavailable to watch?
So only 9 days left for the end of the ICO. Soft cap reached?
I think if you go to youtube, the videos are able to be watched, if the videos in the first page where embedded from the REAL.markets, home website, then the videos maybe blocked depending on what country your IP address is located in, due to the fact that REAL's website is closed to certain countries durring ICO campaign, due to legality issues within each country/province etc, regaurding whether or not tokens are considered securities, or utilities. But check with an official dev from ICO for absolute certainty.
960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: September 20, 2017, 05:43:59 PM
Is this ICO open to US investors, given it's a "utility" token rather than a "security"?
I would also like to know, are american based investors able to participate in the initial coin offering? Is this startup like an decentralized version of Equifax? Does this company follow U.S financial compliancy laws?
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