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301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [AGAINST 51% GROUP] PLEDGE AGAINST BITCOIN CENTRALISATION on: June 19, 2014, 03:07:59 AM
I think that's a good idea there, but you have to give people also the reason why they have to make such actions, i understand why centralisation is not ok for BTC, but many still don't know and i think you should explain that also in this topic.

http://www.btcpedia.com/bitcoin-51-attack/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjtgp5h-jEY
302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [AGAINST 51% GROUP] PLEDGE AGAINST BITCOIN CENTRALISATION on: June 18, 2014, 11:46:33 AM
BTC is open source too.
Do you have any control over the protocol other than switching pools?

I might not have good knowledge on p2pool ( I admit that) but what I do know is that we are screaming like girls whenever someone reaches high hashrates and create threads like this one instead of trying to pledge for a PERMANENT solution.

However, it has recently come to my understanding that a permanent solution is not in the plans of the core-dev team for various (and some of them valid) reasons.
Making changes to the protocol at this point will be difficult.
However Gavin himself said he has a "solutoin" should it be needed.

Well, it's needed.

that's what I am trying to say though, p2pool is a permanent solution. There are options to allow parent and child nodes also. We just need some dev work to add those new features.
You really should read up on it as it's some pretty cool stuff.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.0

You said it.

If decentralized mining is added to the protocol itself, problem solved, no need for switching pools.
I don't know how that can be done, but if it is, WE ARE OFF TO THE MOON!!!!!!!!

I guess you could find a way to make the Bitcoin network only accept hashes from p2pool nodes or that it must meet some other requirement that ensures any hashing power is distributed by a minimum amount.
My point is we have a choice as miners to start that already. p2pool varies between 500th/s to 1ph/s and there is talk form some large miners to point a few more ph/s at it.
if that's the case then more blocks will be found on p2pool providing more regular payments (less variance) which makes people feel better due to more regular payments. The other awesome thing is that btc is paid directly to your wallet the moment a block is found. no middle man, all payments are listed publically so there is no chance to fudge or cheat it.
303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [AGAINST 51% GROUP] PLEDGE AGAINST BITCOIN CENTRALISATION on: June 18, 2014, 11:40:10 AM
BTC is open source too.
Do you have any control over the protocol other than switching pools?

I might not have good knowledge on p2pool ( I admit that) but what I do know is that we are screaming like girls whenever someone reaches high hashrates and create threads like this one instead of trying to pledge for a PERMANENT solution.

However, it has recently come to my understanding that a permanent solution is not in the plans of the core-dev team for various (and some of them valid) reasons.
Making changes to the protocol at this point will be difficult.
However Gavin himself said he has a "solutoin" should it be needed.

Well, it's needed.

that's what I am trying to say though, p2pool is a permanent solution. There are options to allow parent and child nodes also. We just need some dev work to add those new features.
You really should read up on it as it's some pretty cool stuff.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.0
304  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [AGAINST 51% GROUP] PLEDGE AGAINST BITCOIN CENTRALISATION on: June 18, 2014, 11:30:22 AM

That depends on p2pool owners/moderators.
They can easily manipulate users hash rate just like any other pool.


lol Wink
you need to read a little about p2pool

I have heard quite a bit about it.
It still doesn't change the fact that the software behind it is controlled by an entity or group.
Much like BTC.

And I will repeat myself.
We can go on forever switching pools or we can solve this once and for all and make BTC mainstream.

Switching pools is a temporary solution.

The code is open source and if its been modified then peers wont connect to it or allow it to connect, much like the bitcoin core itself.
Please explain how you feel p2pool can be modified to trick miners in any way.
305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [AGAINST 51% GROUP] PLEDGE AGAINST BITCOIN CENTRALISATION on: June 18, 2014, 11:24:18 AM

That depends on p2pool owners/moderators.
They can easily manipulate users hash rate just like any other pool.

Switching pools will not solve the problem.
The problem has been there from the start and has yet to be solved.....



How is that? and why would they when a user can just jump to another and verify that and keep all shares worked on. to my knowledge, when the pool is reporting the correct version and has peers, it cannot be easily modified to bring any benefit to the pool owner other than the pool fee or merged mining going on the in the background (merged mining does not disadvantage the miner in any way whatsoever byt he way)
306  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [AGAINST 51% GROUP] PLEDGE AGAINST BITCOIN CENTRALISATION on: June 18, 2014, 11:16:44 AM
Let's point to a p2pool node and keep it truly decentralised!

That's what we actually need. We need to grab more miners. Seems like many are shy or lazy to post.

I started on p2pool with only 30gh/s and I got some good payouts. variation can be a killer but in the end you get as much or more on p2pool. I have three nodes set up, one in Sydney and a BTC and LTC node/s in Singapore.

If we use p2pool as the preferred method of pooled mining then it can never be a 51% pool. (i.e. even if p2pool were 100% it would be distributed and no node could hold the majority).

What is needed is for miners to understand that and for some devs to dig deep and see how they can enhance p2pool to be a little more efficient with larger miners.
307  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [AGAINST 51% GROUP] PLEDGE AGAINST BITCOIN CENTRALISATION on: June 18, 2014, 10:46:35 AM
Let's point to a p2pool node and keep it truly decentralised!
308  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: June 18, 2014, 10:05:17 AM
ok thnx bro means i need 65ampere 12v dc adapter for running 2 antminer s1 am i right ?
that would be safe yes. I've yet to measure it for myself to confirm but from what ive seen allowing 30amps each should be well within safety margins.
309  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: June 18, 2014, 09:57:01 AM
Yes!

that is all
310  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: June 18, 2014, 09:45:31 AM
can i use 12volt power from dc transformer of 10a not of smps
plz help me out detail about power supply requirement is it necessary smps or can u adapter of 12 volt dc

you want something with around 30amps per ant miner. the Dell psu I was taling about has around 64amps on the dc rail so could do two ants. the wattage almost isn't even worth paying attention to. Just make sure you see 12v 30amps or higher.
311  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: June 18, 2014, 08:54:35 AM
The Dell 2950 psu with one resister mod is a great one that would run two at stock and is around 20 bucks
312  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [460 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 18, 2014, 06:42:04 AM
great work windpath!

windpath can I ask you something?

Are there RPC calls to p2pool to get data in JSON or other format?

Eg if i want to create a php script to query p2pool about my miner's hashrate where do I get this from?

thanks

p2pool support json and is detailed here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Web_interface

Quote
Web interface

Lots of data and useful tools are available at http://127.0.0.1:9332/something:
## /static/ - Lots of information from shares to graphs to payouts.
## /rate
## /users
## /fee
## /current_payouts
## /patron_sendmany - Gives sendmany outputs for fair donations to P2Pool
## /global_stats
## /local_stats
## /peer_addresses
## /payout_addr
## /recent_blocks
## /uptime
## /web/log - Some different stats collected over the last day

Code:
web/graph_data/local_hash_rate/last_
web/graph_data/local_dead_hash_rate/last_

you may find examples of such in my front end in my sig and in the other p2pool front ends.
313  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: MinerTechnologies.com - 3 TH/S and 200MH/S ASM1 for sell / Cloud contracts. on: June 18, 2014, 05:53:37 AM
No contact in over a week and no payouts of last cloud contract winners. payments of previous winners seems to have stopped also. Suggest extreme caution.
314  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: privatecoinpurse.info 100% Green Powered p2pool. Decentralise NOW [OFFICAL] on: June 17, 2014, 11:32:49 PM
very cool, if you put any nodes in the APAC region I'll be happy to peer with you.
315  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: M's Ant (S1/S2) Monitor v2.0 - now with alerts! on: June 17, 2014, 11:08:28 AM
I just published v2.0.  In light of the odd errors some folks are having with the new alert logic, this version was published before SSH support was added.

v2.0
- Added more errorhandling and logging, especially around the new alert logic. 
- Added email support.  This is untested (in the interest of time), but working code that came M's Pool Monitor.

Download link: MAntMonitor20.zip

PLEASE NOTE:

Assuming no additional odd errors come up, next version should have SSH and reboot functionality.  After that, unless there is some really feature that folks are looking for that I overlooked, I need to move on to my next project for some time.  So if you have a feature request that I've missed, please speak up!

M

appreciate the work going into this.

I have set up email alerts but it doesn't seem to be working. could you include the output of the email test in the log window?
Also when I enable s1 fan alert it warns me to set an s2 fan alert.

Yes, I realized this morning that I added the code, but forgot to reference it! Smiley  Just put out an update to fix that..

Download link: MAntMonitor20a.zip

Will look at that logic, must have missed something.  Thanks!

M

ah I see yes the fail logs. is there a log showing the debug output? such as error codes from the server etc? i'm sending mine to an exchange server using basic authentication and ssl
316  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: IN STOCK - OneStringMiner boards, up to 39GH/s, FIRE SALE: MAKE A BID on: June 17, 2014, 09:46:20 AM
Not everyone understood my fire sale rules, so here it is in one sentence:

Make a bid in BTC for any number of DIY, DIY0, DIY1 or DIY2, include your address(so I can calculate shipping cost) email it to sales@btcguru.eu and I'll reply.

did that several days ago and got no reply.
317  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [460 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 17, 2014, 09:43:19 AM
Bitcoin core 0.9.2 now available https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655359.0;topicseen tested with p2pool

Upgrade by shutting down Bitcoin core, install the new one, start and p2pool will reconnect to the new build.
318  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: M's Ant (S1/S2) Monitor v2.0 - now with alerts! on: June 17, 2014, 03:34:54 AM
I just published v2.0.  In light of the odd errors some folks are having with the new alert logic, this version was published before SSH support was added.

v2.0
- Added more errorhandling and logging, especially around the new alert logic. 
- Added email support.  This is untested (in the interest of time), but working code that came M's Pool Monitor.

Download link: MAntMonitor20.zip

PLEASE NOTE:

Assuming no additional odd errors come up, next version should have SSH and reboot functionality.  After that, unless there is some really feature that folks are looking for that I overlooked, I need to move on to my next project for some time.  So if you have a feature request that I've missed, please speak up!

M

appreciate the work going into this.

I have set up email alerts but it doesn't seem to be working. could you include the output of the email test in the log window?
Also when I enable s1 fan alert it warns me to set an s2 fan alert.
319  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [460 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 16, 2014, 11:03:50 PM
How many of you try to find nodes close to you and add them to your nodes when you run your node with --p2pool-node?

I've got my own nodes doing that, I have a couple nearby that I have added also. how advantageous is it exactly to do so do you think? does it make a huge difference?
320  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [460 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 16, 2014, 09:15:27 PM
At the risk of repeating myself, I suggested this over a year ago....

I totally agree that the payments that the dev are getting should be directed at the miners instead - there is far more development being put into p2pool by it's users than the non-dev - which is zero & has been for many months.

I suggest everyone start using p2pool with the syntax "--give-author 0" in the command line. It's a temporary fix but will at least ensure that the non-dev stops getting paid for doing nothing until a more permanent solution is found. We need to get p2pool moving forward again - too much time has been wasted already.

Peace  Smiley



This is my point. If you are donating to the dev and are not happy about the lack of development then its your own silly fault. Set donation to 0.

I agree we need to try and fix the issue with larger miners but I've rented some rigs and they've been quite good.
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