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1861  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: March 31, 2015, 10:43:20 PM
DRK has been renamed to DASH.

See https://dashtalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/ or https://www.dashpay.io/news/darkcoin-is-now-dash/ for more info.

Can you update the DRK to DASH?


Please update this. DRK is no more, we're DASHIng into the future...
1862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 10:27:30 PM
I've got 10 of 30 new MNs up with https://node40.com & I'm very impressed with their customer service and response times indeed, the next 20 going live tomorrow.

In other news, I finally got round to replying to Ferdous of MintPal as he'd said that their Monero XMR were still safe and that he'd send them back, I think the deadline on that was the 31st March so I was a bit last minute, but he sent them immediately so that was a nice surprise.

I then checked my wallet and see that I have quite a lot of these, last time I looked they were at $2.39 and are now $0.77 ish, so down to under 1/3 of their value, but nm I will continue to hold them as to dump them now would just seem vindictive and petty and harm all their holders who have better things to do than troll other coin's threads.
Otoh, you really are a stand-up guy! I'm glad that you are a big part of this community, representing us. If you're ever close to Niagara Falls, PM me.
1863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 10:18:35 PM
Kudos to the UI crew, that's one sweet looking wallet....
1864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
vertoe is very professional and adult. 

Interesting you say that. Judge by your spam youself seem to be the very oposite of what you attribute to vertoe.
Seriously what's your issue? An extrem deficite in attention? Bored as hell?

You are not the first trolling here and you will not be the last and you are not even original just boring and sad to watch.
Don't wast your time. It will not come back.

Don't waste your time with this sideshow clown. History will judge what we do here, not him.

The world doesn't care what obvious trolls with delusions of grandeur spew on message boards. They look at real-life scenarios and ask how this tech can benefit them. That's what matters.

iCEBREAKER's posts, from what I can see through quotes, are akin to one of my favorite lines in literature:

"It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
1865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 05:05:11 PM
Nobody really picked up on it but the last version of Darkcoin was still well over 1 (Tao ratio = 1.35 seconds / hour).
Dash absolutely smashed the Tao unity barrier of 1 and and set a record of currently, Tao = 0.54 seconds / hour !  Grin Grin Grin
Sweet, more facts to counter the FUD. And now you have a new release to try out.

Its was initially conceived to counter the FUD, you can not argue with raw empirical data.
And the fudsters are really not going to like the results of their coins Wink ...

You are the man. Keep up the great work, friend!
1866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 04:57:39 PM
Nobody really picked up on it but the last version of Darkcoin was still well over 1 (Tao ratio = 1.35 seconds / hour).
Dash absolutely smashed the Tao unity barrier of 1 and and set a record of currently, Tao = 0.54 seconds / hour !  Grin Grin Grin
Sweet, more facts to counter the FUD. And now you have a new release to try out.
1867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 04:48:45 PM
I just saw your sig, what's a Tao ratio? How fast I cut down trolls?  Grin

Tao is a measure of how quick the wallet updates.
Tao Ratio = ( seconds of real time spent updating ) / (hours behind of wallet to catch up )
Its a unitless (dimensionless) ratio as its a time divided by a time, (seconds / hours)

I introduced it to help benchmark measurements for update times in wallets across various spec machines in order to find the fastest and best coins and configurations.
Hope you like the idea  Wink
https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-versus-bitcoin-versus-darkcoin-wallet-update-benchmark-times.4479/
more coins are coming ..
Cool, I'd be honoured to be a ratio!
https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/582586295983194112
1868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 04:31:40 PM
Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.

Thought you'd done that already  Grin
I just saw your sig, what's a Tao ratio? How fast I cut down trolls?  Grin
1869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 04:26:31 PM
Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.

Its a shame that a tiny minority of XMR supporters have had such a negative impact on their own interests but nevertheless...WELCOME  Smiley
+1 The trolls can troll until they're blue in the face, but the facts don't change. Thank you for joining us. I look forward to seeing you and other rightfully disillusioned former XMR holders around more often.
1870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 04:05:13 PM
Hate to break up the trolling, but this is the perfect troll spray:
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-196-distortions-towards-privacy-or-many-hands-makes-light-work
Tells anyone all they need to know about Dash and our future plans. Very professional and adult, unlike certain posters on this thread. Form your own opinions.

Dash is Digital Cash, and will always be, despite what some will desperately try to make you believe!
1871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
11.2 - The Dash Release - Mandatory Update!

https://dashtalk.org/threads/11-2-dash-release.4515/


Fantastic.  Thanks for all your hard work devs/testers.

For the less savvy amongst us have we guide on easiest way to update masternodes? Asking for a friend...ahem...
Updating Masternodes (Via UdjinM6)
Ignore the part that says Masternoders don't have to do anything, this was posted a few days ago:
https://dashtalk.org/threads/11-1-dash-wallet.4450/page-2#post-48631
1872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 05:56:12 AM
Vertoe, I ask you to rejoin the DASH team to help us build the perfect Digital Cash, for ALL it's uses. The RTs ask you, too.

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/582348405797699584

Please RT if you're on Twitter and feel the same.
Thank you to those who have RTd so far...his posting here may mean nothing, but it will help for him to know that he was valued here.
I can't believe how can be so stupid to change name of the great Darkcoin in while when coin was on the way to get close to BTC price.Change name at this moment is the total disaster for this coin.I've sold all my 1600 coins and like to say ...good bye Darkcoin.I'm so sad because I was with Darkcoin since first day. Cry Bye my dear Darkcoin .Developers buried you at crypto cementary in while when you was so strong .I'm very sad and promise do not buy even single dashcoin
Bye,bye. Good luck in your future endeavours. We'll send you a postcard from the moon...
1873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 05:40:22 AM
Vertoe, I ask you to rejoin the DASH team to help us build the perfect Digital Cash, for ALL it's uses. The RTs ask you, too.

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/582348405797699584

Please RT if you're on Twitter and feel the same.
Thank you to those who have RTd so far...his posting here may mean nothing, but it will help for him to know that he was valued here.
1874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 03:25:17 AM
+1 The logo "with the stylized A" was voted on and won, fair and square. We can't go debating every little nuance, as not everyone would like any decision made.

 It is great, and suits what we want to accomplish. I think we can find better uses of our time, no?

As for the wording underneath, just Digital Cash is fine. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid!)  Grin

It could be argued that the vote wasn't really fair because a couple of logos were added part way through the voting process. It could also be argued that one of those added was not sufficiently different from the original to justify being included in the vote. Add to that the fact that the winning logo was originally displayed with two arrows in the "S", which perhaps some were voting for. Now I'm beginning to wonder whether it really was a "fair and square" win. I'm not necessarily advocating a revote at this stage but I don't think it would be such a big deal if there were one - it's not like everyone in the world now knows what DASH is and is familiar with the logo. I just think if you go to the trouble of changing the name in attempt to win over the general public, making the logo legible is a must. I - and several others - see "DRSH", knowing full well that it is actually "DASH".

I agree that "Digital Cash" underneath is just fine for now.

I agree that the vote was a debacle, and the two last selections only varied based on color, however the logo that won had strong support. If it makes you feel better, the interactions I've had on Twitter about the logo have not featured this complaint. People are responding to this logo in a positive way. The A has been an A, we don't have to worry about the public seeing DRSH. Believe me, in my position, clarity is my first priority as well... Wink
1875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 03:17:26 AM




I don't think it's right to allow ex devs - regardless of their history - to get away with pursuing a scorched earth policy just because they put "endless hours" into the project when they were involved.

I agree with this, although Vertoe's actions that day were largely based on emotion, I suspect. He is a very talented developer who has definitely done a lot for this project, but he is human. I would be thrilled to have him back. If this post is a twisted olive branch to engage in dialogue towards possibly coming back, then this project just got a lot stronger. Who hasn't made poor decisions in the heat of a moment?

I'm willing to let bygones be bygones...
1876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 01:12:10 AM
Vertoe, I ask you to rejoin the DASH team to help us build the perfect Digital Cash, for ALL it's uses. The RTs ask you, too.

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/582348405797699584

Please RT if you're on Twitter and feel the same.
1877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2015, 12:14:18 AM
So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart...

I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed.

There's no ideology in something that nobody uses. The ideology's in the design, not the name. Vertoe is justified in leaving over not being consulted but less so over 'ideology'.

It's not a rock song that's being built here it's electronic money.

The name can easily be compromised without any loss of principle but the functionality can't. So Evan has got his priorities right in that regard.

no.

i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

good luck
Hi vertoe. It's good to hear from you, albeit in an adversarial capacity.

This move, first of all, did not originate from Evan. There has been discussion in the community for a long time about changing the name. It all culminated into a thread by Strix on DT that was a long debate pro and con about it, and Evan apparently began to see the reason in the movement to give the coin a more marketable name. DASH was the leading suggestion (Once again not originating from Evan) and it also makes sense due to what we are about, Digital Cash.

He then took our suggestions and set in a plan to accomplish it. It had to be kept private so as not to have squatters on domain names, etc., not because it was a unilateral decision.

As far as decentralization, Evan only wields the power to create sporks, and the reason for that is obvious. When our development is past a certain point, this will no longer be needed, and will be built into the code. While it would hurt to have Evan leave, it could be continued as it is an open-sourced code. It would hurt, but there are other devs out there.

As for the tech, we ARE still on the same page, empowering people with a Trustless digital currency outside of government control. But with a more marketable name, we stand a greater chance of accomplishing our goal.


I will respectfully ask you to consider rejoining us to continue what we have started here. You are a smart man, and you know what we could be capable of accomplishing here.

Once again, thanks for reaching out.

Tao.
1878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 29, 2015, 11:23:27 PM


The logo looks better with a full "A".


Propulsion, you are a board member, no?  Maybe you guys can talk about it and make the best decision?  Maybe ask the creator of the logo if he agrees as well?

I hope they don't put "anonymous,  instant scalable...." anywhere near the name.   We absolutely need to not use those words.   I've talked with lots of people... They like and get digital cash... And it's implied that because it is digital "cash" it is private.... Words like anonymous,  cryptocurrency.... Are terms we as geeks like... But freak the hell out of mainstream.  

We are trying to hard... It's a brand/logo and that's it.  We need a campaign to attract merchants to except DASH.  

We should be instead spending energy creating easy startup "Merchant Kits" with very streamlined easy to follow steps.   Everything from how to download a wallet, to how exchange or trade their dash for "cash".  This is where we need to spend time.  DASH is a great name... It works,  it's simple.
+1 The logo "with the stylized A" was voted on and won, fair and square. We can't go debating every little nuance, as not everyone would like any decision made.

 It is great, and suits what we want to accomplish. I think we can find better uses of our time, no?

As for the wording underneath, just Digital Cash is fine. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid!)  Grin
1879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 29, 2015, 10:02:00 PM
FYI: I just asked elbereth to fix the payment calculator for https://dashninja.pl.

 It now displays the correct DASH per day per node amount.

That's good for casuals deciding whether to set up a node.
1880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 29, 2015, 10:25:20 AM
  looks like "DRSH"  Huh

-onetime
I don't see the R but I wouldn't mind if they closed the line off in the A.  It might even look better because the D is already so stylized...
The A, styled in this fashion, sports a little C in the white part of it. This is a subtle subliminal message that DASH is "Cash". Subliminal messages can be quite powerful, so that's why I've been advocating keeping it.

the subliminal "C" is NOT worth making the word illegible. this is important. people need to look at it and see DASH, not DRSH.  Sad

-onetime

The logo "as is" is the one that got voted for, this would not have happened if everyone's first impression was that it looked like an R. Most people see an A, this hasn't been a problem.

I'm had so much trouble seeing an "R" that I had to help myself. This is what the actual letter could look like:


I think it's a big difference and people seeing it for the first time definitely do NOT think "DRSH" with the original version.
I like the logo as it is, with the hidden "c".

+1 Hidden subliminal "C" FTW!!!
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