How can this dash spammer be continue? Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407 Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601 Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987 No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096 Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573 From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now. SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white. 1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed 2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed. here are your victims. 3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed. Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers. I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it. Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer. Once again, thank you for bringing SOME facts about the events of 48 hours two years ago. It helps to know where you came from, and that no one is perfect. Unfortunately for you and your school-boy bullies, nothing in your long-winded post proves any evidence of bad intent, just a spin on the facts to serve your interests. Evan had a youthful exuberance, when coupled with a lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made. The facts are that he is almost universally accepted as a genius and a very fine, upstanding person. I am proud to be on his team, as are the rest of Dash Nation to a man (or woman). Please, I implore you, bring something new and positive to the conversation. This constant negativity won't win you any friends here... |
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The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither. Really? I know it's not going to be easy to steal back the narrative from you guys, as you've had it for two years... This thread is about facts. You and your cronies, at this point, have nothing. If you do however prove a weakness in Dash, we would be grateful, and I would recommend you get a reward. |
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Loving the way that Dash has continued to innovate and progress. I came to Dash later than some but was attracted by the developments and actual delivery of progression. Very excited about the Prospects of Dash Evolution.
Thank you for your kind words. It is very exciting. |
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 Building The Internet Of Money | Dash Nation Progress Thread Welcome to the Dash Nation Progress Thread! The individuals who have sought to perpetrate a false narrative about Dash for the first two years of its existence have been stopped, their seedy plans exposed. As of this post, the real story about Dash is going to be front and centre for all who cherish the spirit of altcoins, crypto competition, and building a true decentralized Internet Of Money, a digital cash the way Satoshi envisioned it. We will be adding to this OP, but this is a start to make it clear that the truth will now be told instead of spin and innuendo. In the name of decentralized technology, competition, optimism and progress, we welcome you to Dash. Let's move forward. Kind Regards, Dash Nation  How does Dash have what it takes to be the Internet of Money? https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/the-internet-1715527827.htmlDash Nation Flag by Alex-ru: Dash Nation Flagship Site (Soft launch, still under construction)www.dashnation.com (Site maintained by Tao Of Satoshi, TheDashGuy, and Busterzzz) Dash Nation Merchants Listinghttp://spenddash.com/ (Merchant listing site by Dash Nation member itscrazybro) Informative Dash Nation links:www.dash.org (Created by Dash Nation members, core team listed) www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation (Website by Dash Nation Founder TaoOfSatoshi) https://www.dash.org/forum (Forum where Dash Nation members discuss issues) www.dashwhale.org/ (Where Dash Nation members submit and discuss budget proposals) www.dashndrink.com (Showcasing Dash POS technology, project by Dash Nation members) http://dashpaymagazine.com (Dash news site by Dash Nation member Elisha) http://whatisdash.org/ (Dash Nation member TheDashGuy's Dash info site) http://dashmasternode.org/ (Dash Masternode guidance by Dash Nation member itscrazybro) http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com ( Dash Nation Slack Channel where Dash Nation meets to chat) |
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The game-changer is going to be Evolution. Imagine, a decentralized API that allows instant access to your DashPay Wallet from anywhere with Internet access. The same wallet, no more having one on your computer, your phone, your laptop, etc. Easy to read usernames will replace long complicated addresses, and the decentralized and secure second-tier network will host the blockchain and provide a platform for a multitude of third party apps. Evolution prototype in action: https://youtu.be/rcHC40YmS0gGot any questions? Feel free to ask! If I don't know the answer, I promise you I will find it. #DashNation #IoM
If any of you reading this are interested in earning some passive income and supporting the decentralized Dash network in the process, consider starting a masternode. As mentioned before, masternodes are the key to Dash's many innovations. They perform all of the open-sourced functions of the Dash network. To start a masternode, you require 1000 DASH. The reason for this is to prevent Sybil attacks. But, in return for your collateral, you receive a 45% cut of a block reward each time it's your turn. Right now, the rate of return (per year) on Masternodes is about 11%. You control your Dash, and to stop running a node, simply send the funds from your masternode address. To find out more information on masternodes, I recommend this site. http://dashmasternode.org/#DashNation #IoM
Open Bazaar integration is very much on the radar of some developers in Dash Nation. For a free marketplace such as OB, having a private, instant retail-ready form of payment would make a lot of sense. I am in communication with the developers of Open Bazaar, and there is a real push to see this happen. https://dashtalk.org/threads/open-bazaar-integration.2045/page-13#post-88155If you would like more info, or maybe if you have dev skills to help us, please let me know. |
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Don't worry. I'm dealing with the trolls, in taking the battle to another turf closer to them. They need to be put in their place, facts need to dominate the discussion. They've had two years to spread their innuendo and spin, well the buck stops here. Tao's had about all of that lip he's gonna take...  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430587.0 |
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sorry Lucas_Jackson, i'm not sure he saw it / them
Anyways, the future is looking bright for Dash .. so many things set in motion, next few months will get interesting.
Bigger isn't always better--for her, yes. For instamined coins trying to claim decentralization, not so much.  Is that the soda machine girl? Thanks for mentioning that. The www.dashndrink.com InstantX Soda Machine is s great example of Dash's open-sourced decentralized tech in action. Great things can be accomplished by this protocol-level form of instant transactions. Dash's second-tier network makes this and other features possible. Dash Soda Machine in action: http://youtu.be/e7rnhBQL1nM Remote InstantX purchase by Yours Truly from Canada to Miami: https://youtu.be/kO7CEq80ASs#DashNation #IoM @qwizzie: That's so true! |
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I'm starting to sense a pattern. Readers, can you see it? The same individuals, repeating the same mantra, intending that if they say it enough times, you might actually take it as fact. These individuals have been allowed to do this for two years.
The facts are the facts.
The instamine happened.
Great technology happened.
A great team assembled.
Dash Nation was created.
A path to being the true digital cash Satoshi envisioned was laid out.
And that's where we are today. The school-boy bullies will try to bamboozle you with their spin and innuendo. Don't fall for it. Do your own research and see what I've been maintaining all through this thread and on the OP.
I have to go for a while, so the bullies may take this opportunity to try and change the narrative, but I'll be back.
Kind regards,
Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder)
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Evan Duffield's qualities of enthusiasm, brilliance, and persistencescammer lead Dash Dalmation Deathstar Nation well by example
Correct. Fascinating. I thought he ignored you, so that he could quote himself as he goes without being disturbed. This guy is an Addict. Yeah, I even tell them they're helping me with thread bumps and they still continue... It's an interesting social case study. |
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Evan Duffield's qualities of enthusiasm, brilliance, and persistencescammer lead Dash Dalmation Deathstar Nation well by example
Correct. Fascinating. |
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The facts of the instamine continue to be brought forward and for that we thank you. It's a reminder that nothing is perfect. Evan displayed a youthful exuberance in launching his coin, coupled with lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made. Evan is a wonderful person, and all of the school-boy bullying is not going to introduce evidence of bad intent.
Evan Duffield's qualities of enthusiasm, brilliance, and persistence lead Dash Nation well by example, and by the innovations he discovers. Dash is the powerhouse crypto it is today because of him and other professional Dash team members.
This is the team that works on the Internet Of Money, and we're just getting started.
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Please, to any Dash Nation members who wish to post on the Internet Of Money thread on the Altcoin Discussion board, keep the message positive. Please don't attack anyone, just stick to the facts. This is going to represent our community, and keeping the message positive while others introduce negativity will show what we are all about. I can't force you to do this, I'm only asking. I'm leading by example.
Thanks,
Tao
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Too late iCEY, your opportunity to control the Dash narrative has come to an end
The facts control the Dash narrative. Everybody knows about the damning fact of Dash's fully intentional instamine. The "Dash = instamined scam" narrative is now permanent. If only there was a fork of Dash with no instamine or centralized Foundation.... Keep reinforcing yourself, bud. I'll continue to teach about Dash through real facts on the Altcoin Discussion board. Sunny ways is going to combat your spin, innuendo and conjecture. The facts are on our side. |
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The top 100 Dash addresses share only 17.87% of the current total Dash in existence. This is less than any of the major coins: Less than Bitcoin 19.4% Less than Litecoin 49.05% Less than Dogecoin 52.52% Less than Peercoin 60.91% Less than Namecoin 71.81% In fact less than any of the main coins listed on the independent site https://bitinfocharts.com/So anyone wailing about the so-called instamine or unfairness in distribution is just trash-talking and can be safely ignored. Dash is very nicely distributed thank you very much. It is, but Monero shills will keep saying things up including their developer Smooth because well if I can't compete with Evan in coding nor my 30+ developer colleagues why not start a thread about the same issue over and over again with 10 different threads each month! Reality is you have a hashfast scammer "iCEBREAKER", along with Smooth who is a very low developer btw, & the clown who keeps telling everyone how genius he is for about two years yet we did not see the coin he keeps telling us about not even a white paper TBTP_need_war. Evan is pissing them off with he's success and I am LOVING IT It's like you wrote the Shitcoiner's Guide to Shitcoin Logic The Shitcoiner's Guide to Shitcoin Logic This is a handy guide for those who are sick and tired of technical arguments. Don't be the victim of technowizardry and logic, don't let the cryptocurrency world be ruled by math, fuck math! Math is for eggheads and dorks and no future is going to be dictated by protocols. Cryptocurrency is easy and a good marketing plan and these helpful techniques will be all you'll need to put nerds on standby and rocket your shitcoin to the moon and beyond. #1. No matter how dire the warning from those technobabling nerds sound, they can be easily refuted with one word--JEALOUSY. Say it often and say it proud and don't let their theoretical arguments get in the way of you and your rightful shitcoin future. If they tell you the algowhateverthingy is broken, say "These blankcoin motherfuckers have been saying that for months and look, our coin is still alive and stronger than ever! They're just jealous that (our coin is ahead of them on coinmarketcap.com) or (our coin has twice the innovation as that has-been and every day we're eating into their market cap)." If you can work SCARED and JEALOUS into the same post, all the better. #2. THAT"S JUST LIKE YOUR OPINION MAN. This a technology built around theoretical math, and you don't have to know much about theoretical math to know that these eggheads are always arguing about who's right. But lucky for you and your shitcoin is that you don't have understand therorhetical math to pull the OPINION card. Just keep saying it and no one will notice that you aren't actually arguing math, game theory, economics, or any other nerdisms. Just keep on saying it's just their opinion, because there are more people with no therorhetical understanding than there are that do--and you just need their money to launch your shitcoin into the stratosphere (or whatever crap is between us and the moon). #3. FUD. If 1 and 2 aren't doing the trick just keep repeating FUD (while simultaneously slipping in every possible negative you can about them or whatever coin they endorse). Politicians call this mudslinging, but we'll call it FUDslingin'. #4. "They're attacking us therefore...." Use this in conjunction with a Ghandi quotation, JEALOUSY, and FEAR for a powerful trifecta of shitcoinery. Ghandi may have been shot and India may have been split into India/Pakistan and their cause may have been helped by the English fighting wars in Europe and Asia, but who cares? No one investing in your shitcoin is worrying about the subtleties of history--you just need a slogan and an authority figure to back up your bumper sticker logic. #5. If all else fails, TROLL! Make fun of their mom, their dad, their girlfriend, their lack of a mom, dad, or girlfriend. Say they're poor, say they're rich, say they have a small penis, a big penis, multiple penises of varying size--whatever, anything to get the subject off a technological footing. People buy on emotion and abusing people's emotions is shitcoinery 101. Fantastic post. Are you sure I can't get you to join Dash Nation? Your creativity and persistence would be an asset to the team... |
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How can money be siphoned off? Miner fees?
Are you seriously admitting you are blind? 1. Selling the ICO/pre/instamine to you. 2. Using control of a significant portion of the coin supply (and thus perhaps 90+% of the exchange volume float) to buy coins from themselves, set fake bid/ask walls, and otherwise manipulate you into buying high and selling back to them low. Repeat & rinse. 3. Having some "governance" scheme wherein some staked nodes (e.g. Dash masternodes and Bitshares' DPOS delegates) pay out some of the created-out-of-thin-air coins for each block and pay them to the owners of these staked nodes, which are disproportionately those who control the coin supply from #2. And even paying some of these coins to the lead developers via "voted on projects" (and remembering who controls the staked nodes and thus who controls the votes). You truly have a dizzying intellect. The rumours are true! That's quite a fine piece of storytelling right there. Please elaborate, preferably with something that you didn't just pick out of thin air and decide to share with the Internet. The truth and facts are that Dash Masternodes are decentralized (spoiler alert: my grandmother runs one ) and are a brilliant idea to perform Dash's myriad of current and future open-sourced services. They are a way for the largest stakeholders to have a say in the direction Dash takes, without ceding influence to well-heeled outside entities. Masternodes are a key part in the way Dash is creating Satoshi's vision of a true digital cash. |
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Too late iCEY, your opportunity to control the Dash narrative has come to an end, I've promised you. You've already admitted you are doing it, with every post you make from here on in you come across as more and more desperate. How about some positivity instead of flinging spin, innuendo and conjecture?
Sunny ways, my friend, it's working for me...
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