Evan had a youthful exuberance, when coupled with a lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made.
Someone youthfully exuberant would not have been able to hold back on telling the world about the development and feature plans he was so excited about and instead wait until after the instamine was entirely completed. In fact he did exactly that which shows it was likely purposeful and calculated, not accidents and mistakes. Evan had been around crypto for at least two years or so before launching Dash. He'd see it all, including premines, hidden premines, instamines, etc. He was no beginner and he knew exactly how to play the game. Thanks for that contribution. Still no facts that link Evan to any bad intent. Keep to the facts. All I see is an opinion, which I can respect, but opinions are not what this thread is about. You and your band of school-boy bullies have spread the false narrative about Dash for far too long. No evidence, just unsubstantiated claims that Evan is a scammer, Dash is "bad crypto", Dash is centralized, etc... This stops now. This thread is not going away, I intend to document all of Dash's accomplishments and present them here. That is what this thread is about. Progress. Optimism. Decentralized technology. I love how you all are ganging up on me here, though. You really shouldn't waste your time with little old me if Dash was not a threat, no? #DashNation #IoM |
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Same old iCEBREAKER trying to "control" the narrative about Dash through spin, innuendo and ad hominem attacks.
You are still doing us a service by bumping this pro-Dash thread front and centre in the Altcoin discussion board.
All great things started small. You have to start somewhere as an organization. The exciting thing about Dash is that the technology exists to bring a true decentralized digital money to the public, outside of government control.
This is what Satoshi envisioned when he created Bitcoin. Unfortunately, it's fallen victim to centralization of funding sources and influence. The tug-of-war over development is just starting for it. The ability to make key decisions that improve the coin is key, and Dash has it with the DGBB (Decentralized Governance by Blockchain), with unbiased funding sources.
We are a young small coin with great technology that's been misunderstood because of lies and deception. We are growing though, and more people see the Dash difference each day. I have many positive conversations on Twitter, and I slowly see the perception changing.
Join Dash Nation and help us create the Internet of Money! Join a culture of positivity amid all of this negativity that consumes this space.
Dash Lead Developer Evan Duffield Discusses Evolution With The Daily Decrypt:
There you go invoking Satoshi again. Satoshi envisioned a decentralized currency built on solid cryptography--dash is neither of these things. It's an instamined fraud built on the fault line that is X11 and the second rate anonymity method darksend. It created centralization through an instamine and exasperated it by creating pay-nodes that centralize power further. It's poor design, built on the back of a poor launch. It is? And to what do we owe that pearl of wisdom? You're better than this, bring facts to the conversation, I am. |
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Same old iCEBREAKER trying to "control" the narrative about Dash through spin, innuendo and ad hominem attacks. You are still doing us a service by bumping this pro-Dash thread front and centre in the Altcoin discussion board. All great things started small. You have to start somewhere as an organization. The exciting thing about Dash is that the technology exists to bring a true decentralized digital money to the public, outside of government control. This is what Satoshi envisioned when he created Bitcoin. Unfortunately, it's fallen victim to centralization of funding sources and influence. The tug-of-war over development is just starting for it. The ability to make important decisions that improve the coin is key, and Dash has it with the DGBB (Decentralized Governance by Blockchain), and with unbiased funding sources. We are a young small coin with great technology that's been misunderstood because of lies and deception. We are growing though, and more people see the Dash difference each day. I have many positive conversations on Twitter, and I slowly see the perception changing. Join Dash Nation and help us create the Internet of Money! Join a culture of positivity amid all of this negativity that consumes this space. Dash Lead Developer Evan Duffield Discusses Evolution With The Daily Decrypt: https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/everything-evolution-3rd-tier-possibilities-w-dashs-evan-duffield-1686893114.html |
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The Dash project is far more than just Evan Duffield. There are a multitude of developers, all working with their strengths, to provide infrastructure for Dash. The problem is the base technology is there, but Dash has a huge network effect to overcome. Evolution, being led by Andy Freer, will provide the tool needed for Dash to chip away at Bitcoin's marketcap through ease of use. Other pertinent developers: MooCowMoo: Dashvend (used in the www.dashndrink.com InstantX Soda Machine) which is our software to help retailers accept Dash InstantX payments in a retail environment UdjinM6: Core Developer who has fixed a number of issues Flare: He has provided invaluable organizational aspects to Dash, and helps to improve the protocol too. FullTimeGeek: Working on DashPay Android Wallets QuantumExplorer: Working on DashPay iOS Wallets and many more. So, as anyone can see Dash Nation is blessed with a great team working together in tandem to bring Satoshi's true digital cash to the masses. Through Dash's decentralized governance system (which Evan gave up a lot of power by creating by the way) we are moving forward with initiatives in development, marketing, fiat onboarding, and discovery at the same time. Anyone who wants to see Dash's governance and voting in action can visit this link: https://dashwhale.org. It will be a struggle, to be sure, but it's one that we are more than ready to tackle. I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to explain that to the thread readers, iCEBREAKER. You and I are going to make a great team! |
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I appreciate your entertaining posts iCEBREAKER. They prove your dizzying intellect. You add color to the thread, and for that I thank you. As I've said in the OP, you will not be allowed to "control" the narrative about Dash.
Evan is in fact a brilliant man. And he's charming, enthusiastic and driven to help Dash Nation build the Internet Of Money.
You school-yard bullies and your spin and name-calling have had your day. The facts prevail.
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Welcome to our thread. Perhaps you can provide some evidence to back up your claims? I'm giving everyone ample opportunity. Dash Nation is about fairness in governance and decentralized technology. I will extend this fairness to you. If you have evidence, bring it forward. Until then, thank you for the thread bumps.
Thanks. My claims? I just asked questions, which you so neatly avoided. I can repeat and expand: 1) Are you that gullible that you believe what a guy confronted with his back against the wall says? Do you realize it's the ONLY thing he can say? There is only the question of: was it intentional, or was it accidental. If he sais it was intentional his whole empire goes down. So yeah, he can pretty much only lie. I wonder. Have you ever asked Evan for EVIDENCE?? 2) Why are you trying to make the instamine a smaller issue because it was "2 years ago and only during the first 48 hours of DASH". LoL! The most critical period in human life is the birth. It's VERY important that it go well and without complications. DASH should have done the only right thing. Re-launch completely after "fixing the issues" I admire your persistence. Can you provide a "smoking gun" linking Evan to any bad intent? A phone message, a video, anything? This thread and myself, in the absence of any new evidence, are squarely focused on what matters: leveraging our decentralized team, governance and funding to propel Dash into being the undisputed digital cash that Satoshi envisioned, the Internet of Money. Thank you for continuing to make us aware of our past, though. We should always remember where we came from. https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/the-internet-1715527827.html |
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Evan had a youthful exuberance, when coupled with a lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made.
Are you REALLY this gullible? WTF. and WHY are you trying to make the issue smaller because it happened 2 years ago? There is no running away from this, the deceitful launch will haunt DASH forever. When shit hits the fan, DASH is gonna leave a huuuge stain on the wall.. will be epic mess, lots of cleanup required too. Welcome to our thread. Perhaps you can provide some evidence to back up your claims? I'm giving everyone ample opportunity. Dash Nation is about fairness in governance and decentralized technology. I will extend this fairness to you. If you have evidence, bring it forward. Until then, thank you for the thread bumps. |
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(extended trolling)
I use Dash because it's a good coin. I like all the things you can do with a two-tier network. I see Evan and the other devs doing a great job, coming out with new features and just totally kicking ass. I know about the instamine. But I don't see evidence today that those coins are still all in one pocket. This post ( https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 ) which I'm sure you've already seen shows that those early coins have been redistributed by now. I'm sure you're not trying to get us to change the past, and we already talked about the launch, so what do you want? I'm already "over" Dash's launch, I'm here to help Dash keep growing and innovating. Oh really??? An insta noobs shows up to spout nonsense. Post with your real account. Did you miss the part where it's a scam or something?? Dump it for a better coin. Or wait until the entire thing collapses and evans is arrested along with all these other pumpers and scammers. Does not matter now if SOME of the coins have been redistributed. You have NO EVIDENCE that the ones who instamined have not retained a huge amount of the coins. The FACT we know the instamine happened and then the reducing of the minting after is two premeditated actions. I will guarantee that if dash ever did get any worth that the authorities take note and investigate origins there is enough data on this board alone to guarantee 100% he will be serving time. So will tao of satoshi and all the other darkcoin scammers protectors and enablers. Enabling and protecting this scam in the fact of overwhelming evidence of wrong doing is going to get them all in trouble eventually. That will be 100% fact. It is risky now to do an ICO. But when there is evidence right there of wrong doing clearly for all to see there is no going back now. Wait and see. I wouldn't even be shocked at this moment there is a case building against him and the ring leaders. The newbie accounts are coming out of the woodwork because they're being inspired by the spirit of this thread: Progress, optimism, and decentralized technology. No one's stood up to the school-boy bullies before, and this thread is giving all Dash Nation members reason to stand up and be proud, as they should be. This false narrative has gone on for too long, people need to judge us based on facts, not spin on facts. Try being positive to your own agenda instead of negative towards others, I guarantee you you will inspire others as well. |
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This is the highest compliment I could receive. I'm glad I stirred your passions. I'm doing the same for Dash Nation, through positivity. Try that some time. |
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(extended trolling)
I use Dash because it's a good coin. I like all the things you can do with a two-tier network. I see Evan and the other devs doing a great job, coming out with new features and just totally kicking ass. I know about the instamine. But I don't see evidence today that those coins are still all in one pocket. This post ( https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 ) which I'm sure you've already seen shows that those early coins have been redistributed by now. I'm sure you're not trying to get us to change the past, and we already talked about the launch, so what do you want? I'm already "over" Dash's launch, I'm here to help Dash keep growing and innovating. Thank you so much for that positive post. That is what this thread is all about, celebrating Dash for the project that it is. The decentralized team, governance and funding will help propel Dash into the future. I hope more people start to see this, and join us in Dash Nation. Cheers, friend. |
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This thread is going to get off to a rocky start, to be sure, we've sure stirred up a hornet's nest. The school-boy bullies have for TWO YEARS been allowed to frame the narrative about Dash. They will not give up that "control", as iCEBREAKER so eloquently put it in my Internet of Money article thread, easily without a fight. That is expected. I'm of the opinion that they've been threatened by Dash for a long time, due to its superior technology and cohesive, professional team. And to their credit, they have done a fantastic job making Evan Duffield look like a "scammer", a person who premeditatively decided to mine all of the Dash for himself and make himself insanely rich, all the while laughing at all of the poor folks who would fall victim to his evil plans. But then something happened. I saw a podcast the other day with Tone Vays from Liberty Life Trail. On this podcast, he said that he used to believe in Dash, but then he was enlightened by the very "facts" we are debating today. The very unsubstantiated spin and innuendo that has been allowed to permeate through the cryptosphere since Dash's rocky start. Something stirred in me that day.
I vowed that this would not be allowed to continue. To me, and anyone who has been following the Dash project as someone posted earlier, Dash is a professional, driven, and ambitious project, and you can see that through the innovations that the Dash team comes up with. Dash Nation has every right to be proud, to confidently tell outsiders that we are working on true decentralization, from the transactions, to the governance, to the funding. We are the only project that can say those things, and the closest to fulfilling Satoshi's vision of a true decentralized digital cash, the Internet of Money. This is the subject of this thread, and it will not go away. Our promises and breakthroughs will be documented here, for all to see on a regular basis. The days of school-boy bullies dominating the narrative about Dash are over. To those who may have been influenced by the spin and innuendo, I ask you for your attention over time. I invite you to join Dash Nation, but I realize it will take time to free people from the deceit of a few individuals.
I ask for your eyes and ears, Dash will show you what it's all about over time. Allow us to define our own identity.
Respectfully, Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder) EDIT: To any capable devs who may want to help us build the Internet Of Money, a fun graphic for you, by Dash Nation member Raptor73:  |
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The numbers and the design of a cryptosystem aren't my opinion, and dash's faulty design using those standards isn't opinion-- This sounds like your implying either that Dash has a faulty design, or that the instamine was by design. Either way, please enlighten us with some facts. As I've said before, you would be doing Dash a favor. I'm saying that the launch was, by the standards used for cryptosystems to create the most decentralized emissions as possible, (time, rate, ect.), bad in comparison with other coins. There are facts (timing, false promises, absence of windows miner) that lend themselves to this being intentional, but either intentional or not, the result is a coin that is very likely centralized when compared with coins using better methods to assure a wider group of miners over a longer period of time. Again, the user is forced to play the odds with cryptosystems, and coins that have huge emissions over short time-frames offer the worst odds of decentralization. Disagree. Prove to me that, as of the time you write your next post and continue to bump this pro-Dash thread, that Dash is centralized. Don't forget, I told you in the other thread, my grandmother runs a Masternode...  If you disagree that a system that uses a shorter time-frame to mine more coins is more likely to be decentralized than a coin that uses a longer time-frame to mine less coins, you are logically challenged. As for proving dash is centralized, you are requiring me to trust that it isn't, and that's the problem. Given the launch, it makes it less likely than most POW coins, but no one can say beyond a shadow of doubt if it is or isn't, but if forced to bet my cash or my life, I'm going with the one that offers the best odds--dash doesn't. You can choose to trust the dash devs and those that claim the coins were redistributed, but don't lie to yourself, or to anyone else, and argue that that is the most probable or likely case. Open source. Period. The code is there for all to see. No trust required. Do you even do crypto? EDIT: Sorry, you're talking about the distribution. Once again, you're entitled to your opinion, but there are no facts that indicate Dash is centralized, as is your contention. |
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The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.
Didn't take long for you to turn up with your unsubstantiated allegations and general trolling did it? How long do you think you can stay even vaguely on topic this time? Read the title, "Progress", ie. not constant repetitions of history you re-posted several thousand times at this stage. Dash had a rough start, get over it. Its no secret and the only people that seem to give a shit are you and your cronies that insist on disrupting Dash threads, either post something useful or GTFO and go back to siring up trouble over Bitcoins blocksize. Dash Nation... progress... yeah, entities, the kind of thing that enables users to keep anonymous internet scumbags at a distance. Not mentioned in the Evolution whitepaper but it's one of the fancy tricks you can do with them. https://www.dash.org/binaries/evo/DashPaper-v13-v1.pdfI know it's off topic but how are you legendary with your activity less than 300? Not getting into the Dash debate but it's interesting to watch from the sidelines. Thank you for your interest. It's going to take some time to put the kids to bed, but we'll get there. The facts are on our side. Would you be so kind as to post a concise list of the most important facts of Dash? Please Avoid Capitalized Marketing buzzwords, Allergic to Marketing. (PACMAM principle) I admit to being strongly biased against Dash but maybe that can be swayed and I promise to listen although I have no time for forum back and forth. I appreciate the opportunity. What exactly would you like to know? I'll be back later to read and I'll prepare it for you. Maybe I can convince you to join Dash Nation... Later, Tao |
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Well we're off to a great start in the future of Dash. Standing up to spin doctors can galvanize an organization. The facts will prevail in this thread. I have to go live some life now, but I'll be back later. Thank you for bearing with us, and giving us the opportunity to set the record straight. For more Dash information, see the following sites: www.dash.org www.RebelMouse.com/dashnationhttps://dashtalk.orgOnwards and upwards, Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder) |
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How can this dash spammer be continue? Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407 Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601 Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987 No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096 Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573 From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now. SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white. 1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed 2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed. here are your victims. 3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed. Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers. I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it. Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer. Once again, thank you for bringing SOME facts about the events of 48 hours two years ago. It helps to know where you came from, and that no one is perfect. Unfortunately for you and your school-boy bullies, nothing in your long-winded post proves any evidence of bad intent, just a spin on the facts to serve your interests. Evan had a youthful exuberance, when coupled with a lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made. The facts are that he is almost universally accepted as a genius and a very fine, upstanding person. I am proud to be on his team, as are the rest of Dash Nation to a man (or woman). Please, I implore you, bring something new and positive to the conversation. This constant negativity won't win you any friends here... You're welcome Taoway. 1. EVANS?? he is considered a NON genius by most high level devs on here and a scammer by the majority of the crypto community . However, I think he seems hmmm to just be greedy and selfish and isn't as bad as I originally thought. He scammed got caught and offered an airdrop. However the fact the other dash whales said no sealed the fate of Dash to always and forever to be considered a scam. DASH the scheme is a scam. Simple as that. 2. The fact you are proud to support a scam even though in black and white it has been proven one is not a thing you should boast about. The is no dash nation. It is core of scammers with some innocent investors who have been roped into it. Hopefully they will exit with a profit and either keep their gains or invest in other coins with a better future due to having no scam start to hold them back. Leaving the scammers with bags of worthless scam coins. You can not expect huge adoption and any kind of mainstream use for dash with the scam start it has when there are many other coins with no scam start that offer the same or greater services. Taoway. I know you feel bad about causing dash so much trouble in the past and bringing to light all of their dark tricks and scams. However, you should feel good about it and put your energy into something else. Unless you have a time machine dash scam is tainted now and forever. That's a lot of "scam"s, pal. Say it a few more times and you will rival the amount of times Allen Iverson said "practice" in one of my favorite sports videos. https://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzIUnfortunately, repeating the same thing over and over and over again doesn't make it true either. To your other point, I say if Dash isn't popular outside of Dash Nation, it's because you and your well-wishers have been allowed to spread the false narrative from the beginning. As I've said before, those days are over, my friend. Dash is a fantastic project, the closest one to becoming the Internet of Money. No more lies. It's time to move forward. Progress. This is what Dash represents. And who is Taoway? My name is Tao Of Satoshi, which means "The Way of Satoshi", and that's what I'm representing here now. Dash is a true decentralized digital cash, and all are welcome. haha these days are over?? Dashers days are coming to an end. I hope every dash pumper on this board is eventually traced down and imprisoned for deliberately trying to mislead people into your scam. Once Evans is locked up I bet the rest of you will start to go very quiet. If you're not using tor or other means of hiding your real ID then I think you will be joining him. It's repulsive that you would use satoshi's name to promote your criminal activities. Your contribution to thread bumps has been noted. Thanks! |
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The numbers and the design of a cryptosystem aren't my opinion, and dash's faulty design using those standards isn't opinion-- This sounds like your implying either that Dash has a faulty design, or that the instamine was by design. Either way, please enlighten us with some facts. As I've said before, you would be doing Dash a favor. I'm saying that the launch was, by the standards used for cryptosystems to create the most decentralized emissions as possible, (time, rate, ect.), bad in comparison with other coins. There are facts (timing, false promises, absence of windows miner) that lend themselves to this being intentional, but either intentional or not, the result is a coin that is very likely centralized when compared with coins using better methods to assure a wider group of miners over a longer period of time. Again, the user is forced to play the odds with cryptosystems, and coins that have huge emissions over short time-frames offer the worst odds of decentralization. Disagree. Prove to me that, as of the time you write your next post and continue to bump this pro-Dash thread, that Dash is centralized. Don't forget, I told you in the other thread, my grandmother runs a Masternode... |
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The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.
Didn't take long for you to turn up with your unsubstantiated allegations and general trolling did it? How long do you think you can stay even vaguely on topic this time? Read the title, "Progress", ie. not constant repetitions of history you re-posted several thousand times at this stage. Dash had a rough start, get over it. Its no secret and the only people that seem to give a shit are you and your cronies that insist on disrupting Dash threads, either post something useful or GTFO and go back to siring up trouble over Bitcoins blocksize. Dash Nation... progress... yeah, entities, the kind of thing that enables users to keep anonymous internet scumbags at a distance. Not mentioned in the Evolution whitepaper but it's one of the fancy tricks you can do with them. https://www.dash.org/binaries/evo/DashPaper-v13-v1.pdfI know it's off topic but how are you legendary with your activity less than 300? Not getting into the Dash debate but it's interesting to watch from the sidelines. Thank you for your interest. It's going to take some time to put the kids to bed, but we'll get there. The facts are on our side. |
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How can this dash spammer be continue? Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407 Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601 Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987 No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096 Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573 From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now. SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white. 1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed 2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed. here are your victims. 3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed. Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers. I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it. Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer. Once again, thank you for bringing SOME facts about the events of 48 hours two years ago. It helps to know where you came from, and that no one is perfect. Unfortunately for you and your school-boy bullies, nothing in your long-winded post proves any evidence of bad intent, just a spin on the facts to serve your interests. Evan had a youthful exuberance, when coupled with a lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made. The facts are that he is almost universally accepted as a genius and a very fine, upstanding person. I am proud to be on his team, as are the rest of Dash Nation to a man (or woman). Please, I implore you, bring something new and positive to the conversation. This constant negativity won't win you any friends here... You're welcome Taoway. 1. EVANS?? he is considered a NON genius by most high level devs on here and a scammer by the majority of the crypto community . However, I think he seems hmmm to just be greedy and selfish and isn't as bad as I originally thought. He scammed got caught and offered an airdrop. However the fact the other dash whales said no sealed the fate of Dash to always and forever to be considered a scam. DASH the scheme is a scam. Simple as that. 2. The fact you are proud to support a scam even though in black and white it has been proven one is not a thing you should boast about. The is no dash nation. It is core of scammers with some innocent investors who have been roped into it. Hopefully they will exit with a profit and either keep their gains or invest in other coins with a better future due to having no scam start to hold them back. Leaving the scammers with bags of worthless scam coins. You can not expect huge adoption and any kind of mainstream use for dash with the scam start it has when there are many other coins with no scam start that offer the same or greater services. Taoway. I know you feel bad about causing dash so much trouble in the past and bringing to light all of their dark tricks and scams. However, you should feel good about it and put your energy into something else. Unless you have a time machine dash scam is tainted now and forever. That's a lot of "scam"s, pal. Say it a few more times and you will rival the amount of times Allen Iverson said "practice" in one of my favorite sports videos. https://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzIUnfortunately, repeating the same thing over and over and over again doesn't make it true either. To your other point, I say if Dash isn't popular outside of Dash Nation, it's because you and your well-wishers have been allowed to spread the false narrative from the beginning. As I've said before, those days are over, my friend. Dash is a fantastic project, the closest one to becoming the Internet of Money. No more lies. It's time to move forward. Progress. This is what Dash represents. And who is Taoway? My name is Tao Of Satoshi, which means "The Way of Satoshi", and that's what I'm representing here now. Dash is a true decentralized digital cash, and all are welcome. |
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The numbers and the design of a cryptosystem aren't my opinion, and dash's faulty design using those standards isn't opinion-- This sounds like your implying either that Dash has a faulty design, or that the instamine was by design. Either way, please enlighten us with some facts. As I've said before, you would be doing Dash a favor. |
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The main problem is that dash didn't adequately prepare for a decentralized launch. many months to years to slowly allow people to accumulate coins to assure the distribution was as fairly distributed as possible--add to that an emissions cut and dash (intentionally or not) made the worst case for a large distribution pool.
Not to detract from the countless answers you've already received on that point, prove it. C'mon, evidence, not conjecture. Prove to me that any individual has a sizeable percentage of all the Dash in existence and the point is yours, fail to prove it and that point I made on certain acts between yourself and icebreaker are just as accurate as any allegation you can make. Cold, hard fact: No coin has a fair launch. Unless every individual on the planet is given an equal share it'll be unfair. From another direction, practically every coin is worthless at launch so everyone has an equal share, nothing. They gain value for many reasons including one you're intimately familiar with, FUD, but when it comes to another you seem to have a blind spot that causes you a certain amount of butthurt, merit. All cryptosystems force you to bet on which has the best distribution, but the one that employs a slower emissions over the longer period of time has the better odds of being the most decentralized. The problem for dash is that dash has one of the fastest emissions over the shortest period (2 million of 18.9 million in 2 days), so it makes a terrible case for being decentralized. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I've considered these facts as well, and I disagree. Thank you though, for not continuing with the instamine = scam angle. It's really getting old. |
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