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No probably not, its a token that costs nothing to create right? its all premined isn't it? The platform itself is very decent and i have used the decentralized exchange but many people can copy this project. Then you have to consider that bitcoin basically cannot be copied and is your real unique investment.
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But anyway, round $1s solves the annoying bots problem anyway.
How should it? Then the annoying bots are overbidding you with 1$. It does change nothing  Well there must be a figure which would solve that problem and not hurt market. If we are talking bitcoin and the price being in the thousands maybe the could round orders to $3 or $5 at most. Bots cant jump in front of that without having to make a genuine rise of price can they  |
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The problem is not the bots making trades. It's the bots making orders, building walls, then cancelling them, without any trade having been made. That doesn't bring the exchange any value.
Charge $0.01 or $0.001 per order placed (or order cancelled). Problem solved. |
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Hi,
Anyone knows what is the most economical way to buy bitcoin with Neteller?
I found Coincorner and Xapo, but their fees seem really high
Is it possible to buy bitcoin using the Neteller online debit card?
The best way is to find someone trusted for p2p. You have chargeback facility with payment via neteller so this gives you extra levvel of safety with the trade. Find someone trusted on this forum or look for someone with positive feedback and long history of trades at local bitcoins. |
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I dont believe it sorry. The biggest resource to tap is usually always human consciousness. The bot is just a watered down packaged form of that. Bots in poker make money for sites also in terms of rake but overall they are just a drain on the whole economy. I cant be arsed to look into it but im guessing its the same and even if its not i just dont care to talk about it.
I know for me personally, when i trade i get fed up with bots, so i trade less because its just not fun to have some bot always skip in front of your order with 0.0000001 more etc. This is like playing a computer game where its rigged, just no fun at all. My attention (so also money) just gets put elsewhere in life.
You are judging ALL Bots, just because of a stupid single bot-strategy, which I also hate (but unfortunaltey it is very profitable...). Yes there are many bots that are overbidding unfortunately. But that is still the minority. You do not even notice most of the bots. Eg arbitrage and market maker bots. Without them the liquidty would only be 1/10 of what it is with them. Did you see the big spreads/low liquidty during the past weeks on kraken? Alot of arbitrage and market maker bots had to stop, cause API and website were so unreliable. So bots are extremly important, cause no human has the time to market make all those markets. Ok fair enough, if they could change the allowed order price to round $1s on bitcoin that would stop them over bidding bots. Yes i did see large spreads on kraken, its not been a problem for me at the moment, You can actually put orders either side and make profit this way if spreads are large which ends up with narrower spreads. But anyway, round $1s solves the annoying bots problem anyway. |
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So after watching it how do you feel now? to me that looked pretty staged. The agreement went something like this imo - 1.)nobody gets hurt 2.) conor gets to go deep into the the fight etc, past half way but flyod gets to win. 3.) When Flyod starts coming forward thats when conor has to back off and let Flyod dictate.
There is just too much at stake not to rig the fight, its really hard to tell its rigged also, they know this. Follow the money trail.
What exactly is at stake here? Nothing lol They get some money whether they win or lose, it's just boxing. Ofcourse Mayweather won, he's a fucking boxer, McGregor would kill him in an octagon. Very pleasently surprised by McGregor, he was really good considering he's not a boxer. Whats at stake you ask? 1.) the 50-0 record, being the "greatest" will make mayweather more ongoing money, losing to a UFC guy would cost him money he makes outside the ring. 2.) Making the public feel like they got value for money is important, it had to go at least a few rounds, this needs rigging. 3.) Any real fighting comes with risk of injury, why would you want to risk life changing injury to make some money. Makes more sense just to rig it, its safer all round. |
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This must be the biggest fight in recent history between any fighters. They have milked this one pretty good for sure. I have heard both fighters have had training sessions together with eachother. Seems a bit over friendly but as long as McGregor can knock out mayweather i dont mind. I assume 90% of people are watching this purely for the chance of a knock out v mayweather. I would however not be surprised if this whole thing was rigged to make a ton of money. everyone wants to watch it, there is so much money here i dont they want to risk health.
I do not call this the biggest fight in recent history,it is the biggest money grabber in the history of sports without a doubt,everyone who tunes to watch this fight wants to know how the fight will play and the purist will mostly ignore this fight ,the ticket charges are insanely high to even purchase one but how can they rig a fight ,they will have to face legal charges if it is rigged. So after watching it how do you feel now? to me that looked pretty staged. The agreement went something like this imo - 1.)nobody gets hurt 2.) conor gets to go deep into the the fight etc, past half way but flyod gets to win. 3.) When Flyod starts coming forward thats when conor has to back off and let Flyod dictate. There is just too much at stake not to rig the fight, its really hard to tell its rigged also, they know this. Follow the money trail. |
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Im glad they reduced the amounts of decimal points allowed for trades. If it were my choice i'd have them reduced it further, im not sure we even need a $0.01 to bitcoin anymore and maybe not even $0.1. Just round it all off to dollar and let the bots squirm. Why should bots get favour vs actual real human trades, bots offer less overall value imo.
Kraken is earning money from fees and traders that use bots generate a ton of volume compared to a casual customer. Therefore it is completely understandable that they have to take into account how a business decision will affect the bots that operate on their platform. In terms of value a single active bot is probably preferable to hundreds of casual small time traders for Kraken I dont believe it sorry. The biggest resource to tap is usually always human consciousness. The bot is just a watered down packaged form of that. Bots in poker make money for sites also in terms of rake but overall they are just a drain on the whole economy. I cant be arsed to look into it but im guessing its the same and even if its not i just dont care to talk about it. I know for me personally, when i trade i get fed up with bots, so i trade less because its just not fun to have some bot always skip in front of your order with 0.0000001 more etc. This is like playing a computer game where its rigged, just no fun at all. My attention (so also money) just gets put elsewhere in life. |
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Im glad they reduced the amounts of decimal points allowed for trades. If it were my choice i'd have them reduced it further, im not sure we even need a $0.01 to bitcoin anymore and maybe not even $0.1. Just round it all off to dollar and let the bots squirm. Why should bots get favour vs actual real human trades, bots offer less overall value imo.
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I have found bittrex fast on deposits and withdraws. Also the trading perfromance is decent with orders executing at a reasonable pace. What i dont like is the withdraw limits though, for anon accounts 0.025 is insanely low. I dont really want to hand of more ID docs to exchanges just for a little crypto to crypto trading.
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when I first started paying attention to bitcoin, it was valued around $600. that wasn't that long ago, as I'm sure most of you are well aware. it has quadrupled in value since the first of the year. how much higher can it go? it seems to me, when something skyrockets in value very quickly, it can deflate just as quickly. does anyone actually predict bitcoins going above $10k? or will there be some sort of split?
just curious what you guys think..
$10k is a figure people have talked about for some time, i feel we are destined to go there this year, maybe in the next few weeks. The numbers of people active in the crypto space has gone up, there is a buzz around the community. The exchanges cant deal with the influx of customers. All points to another epic price bubble in the near term. |
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Yes, money above everything, because nowadays everything needs money, die not carry money, but without money it feels like to die 😆😆😆
No you are wrong, this is often what young people think. Your health and happiness is #1 importance, most young people have great health by default and forget to value it. The fact you can just move around and do what you want to do on a day to day basis is huge. Without money life is difficult for sure, you have to find a way to get money with the smallest amount of impact on your life as possible. Its hard. |
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This must be the biggest fight in recent history between any fighters. They have milked this one pretty good for sure. I have heard both fighters have had training sessions together with eachother. Seems a bit over friendly but as long as McGregor can knock out mayweather i dont mind. I assume 90% of people are watching this purely for the chance of a knock out v mayweather. I would however not be surprised if this whole thing was rigged to make a ton of money. everyone wants to watch it, there is so much money here i dont they want to risk health.
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Wow you would think thy would have added bitcoin cash first since isn't blockchain.info's main shareholder roger ver? Or maybe even remove the original bitcoin and swap to Bcash right. Anyway dont keep any large amount of coins on there due to stories of the past of people getting hacked. |
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Yeah i was just reading through that. So you have to either get euros sent to your UK bank and get raped on exchange rates + potentially have your account shut down or open a UK euro bank account and then get stuck with euros until you can figure out a way to exchange for GBP. Maybe kraken can offer a GBP withdraw option ? |
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ok so once you withdraw EUR to fidor what you do then if you want GBP in your regular llyods/halifax etc bank? do fidor convert to GBP? or do you suggest holding large sums of euro fiat in fidor for long periods? How do we know fidor are a good bet?
Fidor will be covered by the bog standard banking guarantees. We're not talking exchange level patheticness here. It's a bank. You will be able to convert via Fidor and send it elsewhere. Ok nice 1 thanks |
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I've seen a couple people say speak with the bank manager first but how can you do that if UK banks are generally anti crypto? If you move small amounts it looks pretty bad also some people have said. Now with kraken out of the picutre options are also limited. Some people have suggest coinfloor, any thoughts?
GBP at Kraken was always out the picture. Their GBP market was an expensive minuscule joke. Open an account at Fidor and use the Kraken EUR market. ok so once you withdraw EUR to fidor what you do then if you want GBP in your regular llyods/halifax etc bank? do fidor convert to GBP? or do you suggest holding large sums of euro fiat in fidor for long periods? How do we know fidor are a good bet? |
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@sgtwiggles @Newar - clients with a GBP balance should contact us through support about it, we have options for you. We apologize for the short notice, but we thought that things had reached the point where quick action was needed. We should have anticipated this better so more notice could be given, I think we were overly optimistic about being able to roll out infrastructure upgrades before anything like this was necessary.
Can kraken still have GBP options please? Since you have some banking set up for GBP anyway can you give an option for deposit and withdraws. Else it means setting up bank accounts outside in euro and would have to consider other exchange like coinfloor etc because of hassle. |
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Hello everyone, I just wanted to share with yall a very nasty RED FLAG for Bitfinex. Simply put: made a withdrawal request and it got completed but I have not received any coins, even though I don't have them anymore on my Bitfinex account either... That was on 21/08 and I got no response from their so-called "support team" as of yet. I think I will never see those coins again and I will stop using exchanges completely. It's simply not worth the risk, they do what they please with your coins! You have been warned. Stay safe, ladies and gentlemen...   Bitfinex? Response? This is a great forum for us to share information, and help weed out bad actors. As far as I'm concerned Bitfinex is illiquid if it can't send a few ether Anyone else had a problem getting their coins withdrawn from Bitfinex lately? A response from them would go a long way (but the ether back in the customer's wallet would be the best) I don't think this was on purpose, but way to screw up confidence in your exchange guys They has just put up a general reply to everyone on their blog: http://blog.bitfinex.com/announcements/bitfinex-support-concerns/fwiw i have had successful withdraws over the last few days. It looks like there are some people getting withdraws stuck though and support has been slow. Yeah its not good for exchange confidence. I have withdrawn money and im waiting to see how things play out. |
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I have requested a BCH withdraw from Kraken about 2 hours ago and they set a very low transaction fee for my transaction. So far not even 1 confirmation after 2 hours. I'm transferring it to another exchange to sell it there and they require at least 20 confirmations. Now my funds are stuck for I don't know how long because of Kraken being so cheap with the transaction fee.
Fee: 0.00001274 BCC
Fee/KB: 0.00004900 BCC
Is there anything I can do about this? When should I expect this transaction to get 20 confirmations?
I think BCH needs much less fee vs bitcoin. Wasn't this part of why ver didn't like bitcoin currently because he wants to be able to use it for micro transactions? and for that you need low fees. Anyway you can visit this site: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/blocks At the top you can see blocks coming through, so as you can see its not out of the question to not have a confirmation for 2 hours. 20 confirms has taken me between 10 hours - 36 hours iirc. |
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