Rudd-O is one of the most sensible people I have seen here in a LONG time. He is intelligent and knows how to make an actual argument, which I can't say the same for the vast majority of the peanut gallery we have going on here. You guys better get together and gang up on him because he is just demolishing your "arguments"...

...and as usual you retreat to the in house group of yes men and personal attacks. Good job Rudd-O. Keep up the good work.

Caradenada,

Can I see the screenshots?

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All right.

Send the original files with the screenshot, so I can verify the time-stamp.

What account type you have in the Entropay Internet page?

You can list deleted cards. Look at the option in the bottom:



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List the deleted cards, take a screenshot and send to me. You can do before you go home.

I am still waiting the screenshots...

You do not have the screenshots? Well, so that means you forged the numbers.

Yes, we could, but that is not the case. You will receive a scammer tag and no "justice" will avoid that.

Thank you by tell this in advance. You will be banned for good.

Good for you. They will be all found eventually.

Well...you learn something new every day. Glad at least someone has the sense to see that their not Entropay cards.

BIN: 498401
Card Brand: VISA
Issuing Organizaion: BANCO DO BRASIL, S.A.
Card Type (DEBIT/CREDIT/CHARGE): CREDIT
Card SubType: PLATINUM
Issuing Country: BRAZIL



BIN: 498431
Card Brand: VISA
Issuing Organizaion: BANCO DO BRASIL, S.A.
Card Type (DEBIT/CREDIT/CHARGE): CREDIT
Card SubType: CLASSIC
Issuing Country: BRAZIL

I just entered the card number, cvv, expiration date, and my address.  It was no different than any other purchase with a credit card.

from.website. it seems to say that they are paying and takes up to 6week

so i was wondering if we have to go thru legal proceeding. such tedious process?

hi,

i just read that cryptoxchange was closing, havn't been following up the news , just read today only thou they already closed at november 19.

i have about 2.8k usd with them.

what should i do now? i never added a bank account with them at all

will i be able to get my money back?

thanks for advice!

Actually, the entropay card that he gave me never got charged back.  It just got cancelled after the first time I used it.  That's when he started giving me the Banco do Brasil cards, which did end up with chargebacks.

Yup, everything from lying, attempts to discredit, and out-and-out personal attacks.
Lying,

You made this thread. I could care less for the video content. The description you made in the original post imply that sociopaths are fascists (or fascists are sociopaths). I am challenging you to explain what relates a political regime to a psychological disorder.

Attempts to discredit,

Definition of discredit
[with object]
harm the good reputation of

Pesonal attacks.

He isn't a random idiot (>450 posts and VIP status). He just didn't write the report as promised but that's ok.
My data isn't something that needs to be protected at all. Everyone who seems to be established in the community can have it.
The reason why I'm not publishing my identity to everyone right now is that there are some open legal questions (and I have not spoken with a lawyer yet)

To your link: I enjoyed reading your text on but you can't apply all of this on 1Broker. Personally I've traded quite big amounts of Bitcoins during the last year(s). I have used many great services, but I have not used WOT one time. Although it works and it is a good thing for trading with individuals I don't think having a WOT account would help the average bitcoin user, who wants to know if 1Broker is safe to use.

-exxe

He told me to use that one if 498431 didn't work.  I never used it.

The summary that augustocroppo posted is a bit jumbled, but it is accurate.

Here's a somewhat more concise summary:

First purchase Oct 8, card number 406742...  Successful, no chargeback.
Attempted purchase Oct 9, card number 406742... declined.
Second purchase Oct 9, card number 498401...  Initially successful, chargeback Nov 16.
Third purchase Oct 18, card number 498431...  Initially successful, chargeback Dec 4.
Attempted purchase Nov 14, card number 498431... declined.

It was on November 14 that he gave me the 1JVn66... address.  The first chargeback hit two days later, before I sent any money to this address.

Send or paste here the email telling you about the chargeback, as you were requested before by other users. I need to know the chargeback exists, so send the prove of that, thats info only you and your merchant should have. I dont need the date, card number or amount

On October 7, caradenada made a post which I replied to. We negotiated a bit, then the next day I sent 20 btc to 1LkHDNFqv1DR1yUmbMDncjdwciG3rqfM5k. On October 9, I bought a virtual credit card. The payments went to 1LkHDNFqv1DR1yUmbMDncjdwciG3rqfM5k and 1JVn66Sq4EHSSE1NhjdD9G7v9PrB26Dz1a. Cara de Nada gave me a card number which began with 406742... and told me that there was a 290 USD balance. I made a purchase with this card.  I did not tell the merchant that this was an entropay card.  I just entered the card number and my shipping info as usual.  The purchase was approved, and apparently was not charged back. The following day, October 9, I attempted to use the card again.  It did not work, even though there should have been a remaining balance.  I complained to caradenada about the card not working.

1GvKaut8jX8pmEgd95fvy4Gg4oLmbdbE7W --> 1LkHDNFqv1DR1yUmbMDncjdwciG3rqfM5k
Received Time: 2012-10-08 01:05:05
Estimated BTC Transacted: 20 BTC

He gave me another card number, this one starting with 498401...  This card number appears to not be from entropay, but I didn't know that at the time. This merchant apparently accepted a credit card from a different country with a clearly non-matching billing address. I used the card, and got a complaint from the merchant about a chargeback on November 16 (He gave me the second address in November, but I discovered the chargeback before I sent any money there). On November 16, the merchant complained of a chargeback. All I know is that the merchant complained of a chargeback. They sent me an email saying there was a chargeback.  They gave me the date of the original order, and the amount.  That's all they told me, but it was sufficient to identify which charge it was. The email from the merchant said: "We received a chargeback from our bank today regarding the order below. The reason stated was that the charge was not recognised" and gave the order number. "Charge not recognized" is the closest you'll get.  I have offered to repay the merchant for the loss I got the merchandise, and a chargeback was made.  I'm now going to have to pay back the money that caradenada stole. It may not be possible to prove the chargeback, but if a moderator/admin is able to look at the private messages caradenada sent me, then it should be possible to confirm that he did in fact give me card numbers with different BINs.

The visa card numbers caradenada gave me began with 406742, 418044, 498401, and 498431.  Not all of the cards worked, and when I complained he gave me different ones.

The chargeback isn't against me, it's against the merchant. I contacted caradenada and asked him to withdraw the chargeback.  He repeatedly denied making the chargeback. The chargeback was not resolved. He claims to have contacted entropay, but there wouldn't be any reason to contact entropay if the cards came from elsewhere. I asked the merchant if the situation was resolved, and their reponse was no, and that there was a second chargeback on December 4. On December 4, I received another chargeback notice for a different purchase.

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Caradenada is watching, but they are not replying.

Laws don't create rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-ownership

I own myself, as did the miner, steelworker, etc, and they (and I) freely contracted our labor to, respectively, mine the ore and shape that steel into something I would desire, and earn the money that I would use to buy it.

Substantive Law
The part of the law that creates, defines, and regulates rights, including, for example, the law of contracts, torts, wills, and real property; the essential substance of rights under law.

I am not posting the full card numbers or identifying the merchant because I do not want people 'testing' these cards, or trying other bogus cards with this merchant.

If an admin wants to look at the PMs and confirm that the card numbers were not from Entropay, they can do that.  I think that should be sufficient to convince the admins of this forum that caradenada deserves a scammer tag.

The email from the merchant said: "We received a chargeback from our bank today regarding the order below. The reason stated was that the charge was not recognised" and gave the order number.  I do not know if the cards were stolen and neither does the merchant.  There is no chargeback code for "stolen card".  "Charge not recognized" is the closest you'll get.  I have offered to repay the merchant for the loss.

I've stated all the relevant facts, although I've withheld some specific details such as the full card numbers and amounts, on the chance that the cards were stolen and have not yet been cancelled.  I have nothing else to add to this thread.

Anarchism is not amoral egotism. As does any avant garde social movement, anarchism attracts more than its share of flakes, parasites, and outright sociopaths, persons simply looking for a glamorous label to cover their often-pathological selfishness, their disregard for the rights and dignity of others, and their pathetic desire to be the center of attention.

Many people rebel against the legal and social rules imposed by a society.  The possible causes are many: super egos, narcissism, and a whole Pandora’s box of other mental aberrations.  Anarchists, whether violent or not, are often sociopaths for this reason.

Heck, even the Mormons, who I can hardly agree with them on anything are truely some of the nicest people I’ve met, even when I have to turn them away from my door. The rest of libertarians are expressing their socialpathic personality.

I don't even know how anyone can think like this, but it is a perfect example of the newly normalized "only me, not thee" thinking of the Libertarian Right. (...) This is what a sociopath looks like. In the 19th century, the same principle was expressed when Dickens wrote "Let them die, and decrease the surplus population." Yes, people still believe this, especially those who also claim to be Christians.

Libertarians come in two flavors: Sociopath and Confused. With the latter, it is possible to argue; the former should best seek professional help.

Profile of a Liberal Sociopath: Billionaire George Soros Helped Nazis Murder & Steal from Jews, Feels No Remorse or Guilt. (...)

To better understand the debate between liberals and conservatives, I have analyzed the underlying assumptions that lead to a split in dialog. I am certain that there is a strong correlation between being a sociopath and a conservative.

CARDINAL George Pell and other leaders of the Catholic Church had "a sociopathic lack of empathy" towards a family whose lives were ripped apart after a priest abused their daughters, a parliamentary inquiry into child abuse has been told.

Another psychological condition Sennels may have overlooked is sociopathy. Muslims are sociopaths, and the few who break away from that interior totalitarianism are the -- repeat after me, kids -- exceptions that prove the rule.

I propose that there are basically two kinds of jews which constitute the jewish population. Creatives and Sociopaths. More on evidence and theory about how and why this occurs in the following posts.

A Religious Sociopath is a highly intelligent person who is manipulative and cunning with superficial charm. Justifying his selfish motivations as permissible because “God wants me to do it for the good of the group,” he does not recognize the rights of others.

This is an intriguing post to me. The more I read and study Buddhism, the more I realize that this state of detaching from one's feelings is something that sociopaths do without even trying.

You don't seem to understand how credit cards numbers are structured.  The first 6 digits are the bank identification number, and would be sufficient to identify these cards as coming from entropay or not.

It's just a one-line email saying there was a chargeback.