I agree, knowledge deserves to be free (not as in "free" healthcare, but as in freedom)... especially knowledge that helps the human species advance and progress morally. This is the way Rudd-O wish for the "human species advance and progress morally": http://rudd-o.com/archives/spanking-your-child-isnt-the-same-as-beating-him-up.-its-far-worseThis place -- indeed, the whole planet -- is far too small for us to harbor child abusers, much less hypocritical rats who try and rationalize their child abuse.
You might have noticed an absence of "science", "proof", "evidence" or "studies" in my post. This is intentional. Though the studies on child abuse are copious and conclusive, those of you who aren't child abusers don't need the evidence, and those who are child abusers will resist believing it anyway.
As I'm sure you have personally witnessed already in the past days, child abusers are resistant to reason. Their compulsion for child abuse does not respond to logic and evidence. They are doing what they do, either because they want to clear their own consciences of the irreparable damage they have inflicted, or because they want to bury the anxiety and dread that comes with recognizing that they were abuse victims (what we call Livestockholm Syndrome when the abuser is the State). Their whole intervention in defense of child abuse is easily reduced to the irrational plea "make this not be true".
The practical corollary to this observation, you are already very familiar with: One simply can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into; this is particularly true for child abusers, since they were usually beaten and broken into their corrupt and malevolent belief ("they turned out alright", I'm sure they will tell you).
That leaves us with only one option, and one option only: Those of you who have a conscience, join me in deliberately and openly ostracizing defenders and rationalizers of child abuse. Test, ask questions, attempt to persuade, and if your interlocutor resists reason and continues to advocate child abuse, triage, ostracize and move on. You must do this. You may not be able to change their minds, but you sure as hell are able to derail their participation, and you can definitely highlight their defense of child abuse as (rightly) abominable. If we are not to act to defend and uphold your values, then who will?
The root of statism is quite literally the doublethink of "the NAP for my in-group, and aggression for the rest". It has always been like that -- "the NAP for everybody but Negroes", or "for everybody but women", or "for everybody but foreigners". "The NAP for everybody but children" is not how a free society will arise. We will never have a non-violent society, ever, I swear to you on my life, until and unless we treat the most defenseless members of our society with the same respect and according to the same principles that we openly advocate and demand for ourselves and everybody else.
I'm done entertaining stupidities and venalities from child abusers who want to pretend that what they do isn't abusive. You should be done too. What a load of hypocritical crap nonsense!
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I agree, this underhanded blurring of the definition of "violence" is exactly what your interlocutor is doing. He wants to equate snatching a child out of traffic with beating him up after-the-fact, because he needs to find an ideological excuse to rationalize his own brutality and child abuse, so he can keep believing "See? I'm a good dad.".
He's not a good dad. He is a shithead.
Rudd-O is an user unable to construct logical arguments. He/she intentionally distort the meaning of words and concepts and he/she is a self-declared willful ignorant. Rudd-O is certainly not skilled to determine which definition the user Moonshadow is assuming for the word violence. Rudd-O, like a typical arselicker, agrees with the fallacious arguments of Myrkul without to recognize his/her own clueless assumptions. From Rudd-O Internet page: http://rudd-o.com/archives/spanking-your-child-isnt-the-same-as-beating-him-up.-its-far-worseStarting from the most fundamental basics: "spanking" (a term used to describe a certain particular form of initiation of violence) is an initiation of violence, and therefore it is an obvious and open violation of the NAP.
There is no difference whatsoever, not morally and not even legally either, between "spanking" and battery. If you hit another person -- whether adult or child, with an open hand or a closed fist -- it is the same action regardless of how you do it or who your victim is, because you initiated the violence. (...) Spanking and battery means: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spanking?q=spankingnoun an act of slapping, especially on the buttocks as a punishment for children: you deserve a good spanking like any spoiled child
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/battery?q=battery5 [mass noun] Law: the infliction of unlawful personal violence on another person, even where the contact does no physical harm In accordance with the above quotes, battery differs from spanking because: 1. It is a term generally used in Law. 2. Do not regard physical harm as the only reference to determine the infliction of violence. Therefore, Rudd-0's fundamental basics are wrong. (...) Calling it a different word doesn't change the observable reality of the action. This is ironic! Rudd-O contradicting his/her future arguments. In addition to that, "spanking" is also extremely cowardly. Unlike initiating violence against a six-foot-four person (who could break your back in one self-defense swing), child abusers choose to violate the NAP against people far smaller and weaker than them, who literally cannot defend themselves against such an aggression. Their actions literally terrorize a defenseless creature who cannot fight back. Spanking means the act of slapping a child, while a coward is a person lacking courage to endure dangerous things. The fallacy of Rud-O's statement relies on the general assumption of an aggressor whose intention is to harm a defenseless person because it is afraid to endure pain. This general assumption contradicts the basic meaning of spanking. The intention to punish a child does not imply the apprehension of being harmed. http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/coward?q=cowardDefinition of coward noun a person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things: they had run away—the cowards! adjective 1 literary excessively afraid of danger or pain. Finally, "spanking" is also corrupt. It is corrupt because the use of the word "spanking" as an euphemism for hitting children, is deliberately done to falsely conceal the nature of violent, aggressive, immoral and cowardly actions against defenseless people.
I have far more respect for a person who openly states "You know, I beat children up". Such a person, at least, isfar more honest than the cowards to say "I spank my kids" or "spanking is good" or "but how are we to educate our children, if we aren't allowed to spank?". Spanking cannot be corrupt because: Definition of corrupt adjective 1 having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain: Punishing the child with the use of force does not imply willingness to obtain money or personal gains. So there you have it: "spanking" is evil, it is cowardly, and it is corrupt. I don't know how more clear-cut this issue can get. Rud-O user assumed a wrong meaning for spanking and then proceeded to substantiate his claims with incoherent statements. After all that idiocy, Rud-O concluded that spanking is evil without providing any reference or evidence to support his conclusion.
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And God is a man in the clouds because Christians said so, because The Bible isn't distorted, illogical or anything (like man). I made no reference to any religion. Where did you get this from? The truth is you have an ego and soul, self. Ego is seperate from self. Your memories are ego. What about the space in between them? Consciousness? Yes, I have a ego, but is not independent of the self. My memories are just memories. There is no space. No, from a definition of 1746 consciousness means "state of being aware". That means, at any time you are awake and reasonable sober you are aware. Consciousness created ego to perceive itself from a foreign perspective, to learn about itself. Ego is learning about consciousness. As we learn about the consciousness that created us, we discover ego is not necessary to live; fear and doubt and ultimately, logic, are not necessary, they were created by consciousness to learn of itself. Logic is not necessary? You mean, you would give it up all the rational knowledge you made so far because it is useless to sustain life? You are funny.
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Why should I disclose that? JLPT certification is JLPT certification. It's like someone who has a degree. Why should they disclose that they are not fully qualified.... when they are?
Lol, keep trying. You almost got me here! Except you didn't.
Qualification is a piece of paper, skill is an empirical experience. You cannot obtain a skill without a long period of practice. Moreover, feel free to prove you are qualified. You did not presented any evidence to back up your claim.
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VIP cannot have scammer tag AFAIK
Of course VIP members receive the scammer tag. No user here is free of the scammer tag. The user R- was once a VIP member: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54967Name: R- Posts: 501 Position: SCAMMER Date Registered: 31-03-2012, 10:03:21 Last Active: 10-11-2012, 06:15:59
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If you want to extort force or violence on others, you're doing so with your ego. Your true self would not harm others because that isn't love. It's not logical to hurt others. Your ego is illogical. Doubt, your ego, is what makes you human. When you lose your ego you can do anything.
Dank, you sound stupid when you pretend to know what you are bubbling here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-egoId, ego and super-ego are the three parts of the psychic apparatus defined in Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche; they are the three theoretical constructs in terms of whose activity and interaction mental life is described. According to this model of the psyche, the id is the set of uncoordinated instinctual trends; the ego is the organized, realistic part; and the super-ego plays the critical and moralizing role.[1] Ego, as explained above, is part of a model defined by Sigmund Freud. Do you know who was Sigmund Freud? Anyway, there is no "true self" as you propose for the Freud's model. The will of violence arise from a conflict between the ego and the id, whose result is decided by the super-ego. Moreover, the definition of love is quite relative and personal. Your both statements are false.
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The truly idiots always leave the most obvious evidence. Darkster replying to himself with his sockpuppet account: Not sure if there is more information I should be providing than this: At 440 Mhash/s should I be solo mining or continue in slush's pool
New to mining. Just wondering which will be more efficient for generating the most bitcoins. Disregarding power use, etc. Just wondering which will generate more bitcoins weekly/monthly.
You have a couple weeks left to mine in a pool, and that's your only realistic option. After that, quit mining or buy an ASIC IMO. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72481Name: Dakster Posts: 6 Position: Newbie Date Registered: 14-11-2012, 20:16:50 Last Active: Today at 17:37:39
Local Time: 16-11-2012, 21:03:00
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71772Name: mightycount Posts: 6 Position: Newbie Date Registered: 06-11-2012, 18:20:58 Last Active: Today at 17:41:31
Local Time: 16-11-2012, 21:03:26
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Scammer tag for Darkster. This is a no-brainer. I literally agree! You quickly posted the evidence. A rare case of an truly idiot. Generally scammers are smarter than this user. Irrefutable evidence: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This rating is not yours. It is mine. Verifiable by checking this PGP signature against my PGP key registered on #bitcoin-otc. You are a scammer. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQppnPAAoJEO5ogPUS9VkP+xcH/3hV8yG0/uo1U3G2wlMMwFM2 mSdSZOZJ0C4/21DVBDzLZCvubN3dVGJ3OdBkm7UwNnoyz+XutH616Tb/d2AvmKNs OAv/cUNcp6R6rDnxtk3NFxhwMdX50jLyMt6txYKi76LtWTVKiEDoX3ddIY7yRgmp LckEX/2d4gZApp4io20R7x447oT44iKVNG1rV7l1XIIGSnt6UsJkUU+xPuKDunjb MYji98hi9INRZRZg/JI10UqJGM38UaBIojzoJ9SfZI6Gn8ZbbXnVd6qQ5PzjbSZO kJBhtv8SQMTp/YNrSTanxKdu/jk9+uD7k/yvPbkpY0rHR+kWRZmXpv70JgbpcxY= =T2CB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Congratulations to JoelKatz and Namworld. You both made a remarkable example of philosophical debate over the evidence available. I suspect the your recent posts were decisive to issue the scammer tag.
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...and MPOE-PR, improve your speech, it is annoying and offensive. You can do better than that.
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We also publish and sell our own language textbooks, and they are some of the most advanced language textbooks in the world. We're starting with Japanese (although others are in development). We currently have the only Japanese textbook in the world that attempts to use comprehensible input theory to teach the language. And our website will be the same. You should disclose to potential investors that you are not fully skilled for Japanese language teaching. You have less than two years of Japanese language writing/speaking: http://renli.wordpress.com/2011/06/Kongzi: Japanese
Posted on June 23, 2011 by Usagi Okay I finally decided to start learning Japanese. I’ve been “learning” Chinese for 20 years, don’t hate me for switching horses midstream, okay? I will always love the old horse too. Anyways.
As soon as I started learning Japanese I realized that I would have to first learn Hiragana. Hiragana is of course the primary writing system, or “kana” in Japanese. So I dutifully started entering Hiragana into Kongzi. I immediately discovered much to my chagrin that for all the “talk” I made about using Kongzi to learn Japanese as well as Chinese, it wasn’t nearly as convenient. Here’s what I was faced with:
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> My e-mail address says "oliver.richman" but that > isn't my name, it's my email address. I know plenty > of people who use their phone number as their > email address. If I did that would you claim that > my name is myphone number?"
The funny thing is, that isn't me. And even if it was, whoever posted that said it isn't their real name. So yeah, back to your regular trolling ;-)
Well, I am sorry for you... This time EskimoBob came up with meaningful evidence. I confirmed that Oliver Richman is one of your multiple aliases. So your statement is false.
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Thank you for information, i know all public addresses But crypto gone from that address:( And no way to contact with Ken and other staff He afraid
Do you have the letter which you solicitor sent to the address? Could you scan the letter and post here? Could you also disclose receipts of the funds transferred to Cryptoxchange? You must gather much proof as possible to prove that Cryptoxchange is holding your funds. But please, post the originals, redacted if you wish.
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Dept. of Sanitation Bench: A interesting list of sockpuppets. This was the best part of the joke.
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I'm trying to get all the common, simple questions into the FAQ. I certainly welcome any help on that front!
That is your job and BFL pays you to do it, not the participants of this community. If you wish help, get your place in the queue: Project DevelopmentOrganization of Bitcoin and related projects, bounty campaigns, advertising etc.
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This particular account was opened as a direct referral with a 65 BTC deposit on February 24th, 2012. on or before August 1st, 2012 1000 undocumented coins transferred to a trust account to take advantage of higher interest rate! intra account-to-account transfers within the BTCST system/website were not documented on the blockchain, they were a sql row in a database. ~600 coins left in personal account at time of default. This is impossible. The Bitcoin network protocol only transfer the ownership of the coins with a connection to the blockchain. Satoshi's core script refuses any reproduced coin in a closed intranet network. Actually, no one owns the coins. All the coins are in the blockchain, the wallet is only holding a digital key to validate the transfer inside the blockchain structure with the support of the miners. The Bitcoin network is omniscient of all coins which does not belong to the network because it already know the all coins of the network: 21,000,000. So the your statement is false.
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Best of luck with that theory. I give you about even odds that your dauthers will hate you and your wife for reasons that you will never comprehend.
I have already lived with my three females cousins while they were teenagers. I consider my aunt a champion of persistent reasoning! She was able to raise my cousins without the support of my uncle (they are divorced). Myrkul is about to discover how much difficult is to deal with biological bodies producing high doses of hormones at every second! Myrkul, prepare your voice and strength your larynx. You are going to need very much in few years ahead!
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If you want to raise animals, treat your children like animals. If you wish to raise adults, treat your children like adults.
You did not learned anything from this debate, did you? His children are animals, rational animals. Moreover, have you even heard of that phrase: "never give to the child the job of an adult"? By the way, you are implying that irrational animals deserves punishment to be educated... Oh dear... Myrkul cannot formulate his arguments in a coherent fashion without to misinterpret the meanings of well established words and concepts.
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So, what forms of "behavior modification" do you use? Do you force noxious substances into the child's mouth? I have yes, but not in the manner proscribed by that link. I've put vinegar onto my elder son's fingertips while he is asleep, to discourge him from bitting his nails. Nothing that would cause pain, like hot sauce, just taste bad. What a brilliant idea! This is indeed a very good method to educate the involuntary responses of children. Something similar could be used to educate a child to not insert the fingers in his/her nose, which can provoke a minor affliction in the mucous membrane.
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Well, since you clearly don't understand the language we're using to converse, I think we're done here. Come back when you understand English. How pathetic you are. Another ad hominem... No, not another ad hominem. I don't claim that you're incapable of making an argument, just that English is not the language you should be using. Since I don't savvy Portuguese, I'm afraid we're at an impasse, and can no longer communicate. My apologies. You pretend that your are not claiming that I am "incapable of making an argument", but soon after the comma you claimed that "English is not the language" that I "should be using". A rare case of an ad hominem justified by another ad hominem! Double ad hominem: "Your argument that my 'Come back when you understand English' statement is an ad hominem is invalid because you should not be using English language."
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