Sole possession of private keys approximates ownership, but it's not. (...)

2. Transactions
We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures.  Each owner transfers the coin to the next by digitally signing a hash of the previous transaction and the public key of the next owner and adding these to the end of the coin.  A payee can verify the signatures to verify the chain of ownership.

Definition of ownership

noun
the act, state, or right of possessing something

(...) Having keys to a safe doesn't mean I own the contents of the safe.

Bitcoins aren't even digital "things" (like, say, an mp3 is) they're just transactions in a record that everyone has.

12. Conclusion
We have proposed a system for electronic transactions without relying on trust.  We started with
the usual framework of coins made from digital signatures, which provides strong control of
ownership, but is incomplete without a way to prevent double-spending.

Sole possession of the private keys just means you're the only one who can change the record for that particular address.

If I get your private keys, I haven't stolen from you.

Definition of steal
verb
1 [with object] take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

I may have trespassed, if I had to access your computer to get them, but it's not theft. Sorry.

Definition of theft
noun
[mass noun]
the action or crime of stealing.

Crypto X Change, suspending trading and returning client funds.
Monday, November 19, 2012

Dear Clients,

Effective immediately Crypto X Change will be shutting down trading / deposits and returning all client funds.
  
Please do not deposit any bitcoins to your unique deposit address or do not deposit any AUD or USD via any deposit methods. All deposits made on 19th before this announcement will be returned without any fees.

You can use the website to place your withdraw requests and withdraw coins.

Please send your questions or support reuqetsts to  support@cryptoxchange.com.

It has been a pleasure working with the Bitcoin community and we wish Bitcoin a great future ahead.

Regards,
Crypto X Change

Crypto X Change, suspending trading and returning client funds.
Monday, November 19, 2012

Dear Clients,

Effective immediately Crypto X Change will be shutting down trading / deposits and returning all client funds.
  
Please do not deposit any bitcoins to your unique deposit address or do not deposit any AUD or USD via any deposit methods. All deposits made on 19th before this announcement will be returned without any fees.

You can use the website to place your withdraw requests and withdraw coins.

Please send your questions or support reuqetsts to  support@cryptoxchange.com.

It has been a pleasure working with the Bitcoin community and we wish Bitcoin a great future ahead.

Regards,
Crypto X Change

is this prove enough?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/adressbook.jpg/

In case you're not aware of it, you can prove ownership of any address by signing a message with the corresponding private key. You can use brainwallet.org to do this. You can also use the bitcoind's signmessage command.

Logically I would say that Gineta's real name is Arturo Miguel Alonso Maldonado (as listed on Companies House).
He signs his signature A.Maldonado and the rest of the alias' are simple restructuring of his names (except Jacob... no idea where that comes from)

<gineta> ok send
tell me how much I need to send in pounds
and mail me back you short and long code and you name for the transfer
I go to put in the bank subject Jacob donation

Yes i could prove this, i have a backup copy of the wallet.dat and everything is connected to me (my identity) via mtgox

Augusto, you're right, I've never read the bible or any religious text.  I was completely alienated from spirituality as a kid.  So, yes, I didn't have to rely on man's distorted perception of the world.  I found my own perception, the true existence of reality, my own soul.

We're searching for some sort of answer, I mean, at what point does society stop building itself, just because?  At what point does society change from an environment of forced labor to a world of peace and freedom of choice?

Dear all,

stupid as i am i allowed some hacker to somehow install a trojan horse on my pc where i stored some of my bitcoins. (around 2600), With keylogger he got all my passwords and, of course stole my local wallet file (encryption did not help)

The hacker sent the bitcoins to the address: 1Q3KFL7Z1BTpUboDaU6Qj3t9xCXWpzNntS

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Thank you Sir, again sorry for the inconvenience!

Regards


Crypto X Change

DeathandTaxes,

Your wire will be resolved tomorrow, I appologise we have had our main accounts person away and some communication issues between people internally which has caused this, the wire sent out had been returned due to an input error with details when another staff member did it.

Everything will be back to normal as of tomorrow 27/08/2012 - Australian Business Time. Everyone will be back to work as normal.

Your wire will be processed again and we will email you the receipt, again we are sorry for the inconvenience!


Regards

Cryptoxchange

How to buy bitcoins using NZD in New Zealand – Crypto x change now supports NZD deposits.
Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Dear users,

Crypto X Change is glad to announce the all new NZD deposit options for our New Zealand bitcoiners. Buying bitcoins in New Zealand is now much easier using this new deposit option by crypto x change. Now you can visit any Westpac branch in New Zealand and fund in your crypto x change account by sending telegraphic transfer to crypto x change.

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This is a scam report against CryptoXchange, who has stolen $100,000 USD+ from me and refuses to return it. He told me he had sent the money to me months ago, but that was a lie. To this day I have not received it. Worse yet, he refuses to refund me the BTC I paid to him and refuses to reply on his chats. I am treating this like a legal case and though it is not my responsibility I have taken on the burden of proof in this case against Crypto. I have detailed, highlighted and explained logs ranging from January this year to June of this year in which you will read about how he's scammed and run off with my money. I am asking for a commercial settlement with Crypto, but until then I will continue to make sure everyone knows of the scam he is capable of. His partner in crim currently is Mahin.

You have absolutely no idea what has actually gone on here. As we've stated above were not going to continue replying to this garbage, we are not scammers, please go and find people that are not happy with our exchange!

AML / CFT / KYC is very important in Australia, there is a lot more to this than is shown, we are doing what we legally have to do, WME - Send the documents please!

I have complet of docs which crypto ask me.
Сrypto running from my lawyers who want to transfer documents.

Whats the average wait time for withdrawal of funds to an Australian bank account from CryptoXChange?
Their helpdesk said it could take upto 10 business days.

I booked a withdrawal order on 6 nov, and still no funds. I have to wait till the 22nd November by my calculations.

I have worked with cryptoxchange before and made deposits/withdrawels fine with massive delay. However at this time i'm attempted to make some withdrawels on my account both on the 6/11/2012 and the 7/11/2012. I'm completly verified, with all my details correctly put into their system for a local bank transfer out.

Now my first issue is that they state that it takes 4-7 days to withdraw the money, it is currently the 15/11/2012 in australia and i have seen nor hide or hair of my money withdrawel. Second it seems they have changed my withdrawel booking dates on both of the withdrawels to the 11/12/2012, now this is commiting fraud.

Steps taken:
Validate bank account - quick support response, all good.
Ordered wire transfer - appears as 'Booked' since 30th of October.
Opened a ticket a few days ago asking about the transfer - no response.

Withdrawal to AUD bank account booked 30th Oct. Haven't received any money whatsoever.

No response to email, PM, helpdesk request so I am opening this topic.

Cryptoxchange: If you bother to respond to this thread and ask me for the details, just check your email, PM inbox on this forum and your helpdesk - there's more than sufficient details there.  >:(

:-\ I've been waiting on a transfer out of Cryptoxchange for about two weeks now. Does anyone have any similar experiences? Is this a regular thing?

I did not change my password; same password as far as I know -- and I only have like $220 USD in there...  Well now I can't even contact their poor excuse for "customer support" -- I don't know if my IP is blocked or what, but when I try to access cryptox website from my laptop, it will not load now... wtf is this shit???  I just wanted the best price, now all my money is gone... Thank you CrookToX, I will be sleeping in public restrooms for the next couple months because you stole my rent... fuck this crooked fucking shit!

So that proofs to me that they gone scam. Exchanger dont want to work with them anymore and they dont give out the money of the users.

I would say dont send any more money there. The high price of the Orderbook are maybe fake and a honeypot.

I would be happy you can tell me im wrong... but telling me i dont have enough btc when i have 6.4 and only want 3 is proof for me.

Hi, are there more people , having the same problem?

I wait for 6 weeks already and it says booked, but i see never money in my account

I mailed them many times , but never a reply.
Can someone tell me how i can contact them ?
yeah i try there helpdesk .

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Logic is what makes us human right?  Logic is what makes people justify their actions.  Logic is what creates a society, as our own.  Logic is transcendence of fear.

It is ultimately illogical to use logic once you find the truth.  Once you find love, why wouldn't you prefer to act out of love over doubt and fear?

Consciousness created ego to perceive itself from a foreign perspective, to learn about itself.  Ego is learning about consciousness.  As we learn about the consciousness that created us, we discover ego is not necessary to live; fear and doubt and ultimately, logic, are not necessary, they were created by consciousness to learn of itself.

Now who's using the ad hominem attacks, hmm?

Well, Rudd-O has vehemently opposed Corporal Punishment, and in fact it was after a quote where he called for the ostracization of "defenders and rationalizers of child abuse" that you called him a hypocrite. (...)

We will never have a non-violent society, ever, I swear to you on my life, until and unless we treat the most defenseless members of our society with the same respect and according to the same principles that we openly advocate and demand for ourselves and everybody else.

You might have noticed an absence of "science", "proof", "evidence" or "studies" in my post. This is intentional. Though the studies on child abuse are copious and conclusive, those of you who aren't child abusers don't need the evidence, and those who are child abusers will resist believing it anyway.

(...)
Considering that, the accusation of hypocrisy is tantamount to an accusation of child abuse. (...)

(...) So, do you have any proof that Mr. Rudd-O abuses his children? Do you even have any proof that Rudd-O elsewhere advocates or rationalizes Corporal Punishment not being abuse?

If not, then your accusation is unfounded, and ad hominem.

Very well. I shall use your own evidence against you:

(...)


The word you're looking for is "consistent"

Maybe you should look it up in the dictionary.  

Than you think is the case. Please show me where you got this erroneous (that means wrong) impression?

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The AgainstAllArchons guide and FAQ

What is this community about?

(...)

We collect, share and learn knowledge about these topics.  We also discuss and come up with voluntary and rational ways, strategies and methodologies to living free in a voluntary manner, to strip archons and archists of their authority, power and influence, and to bring about an archon-free world.  Such tactics include (but are not limited to) includes peaceful parenting,  therapy, self-discovery, agorism, using the "against me" argument effectively, shedding toxic relationships from one's life, and all forms of advocacy for voluntary relationships.

(...)

Useful information and suggestions for our members

(...)

How to effectively participate, interact with, and triage people

1 Ask him what his conclusions are, and why he believes it.  Inquire as to which information would change his mind.
2 Socratically question him, slowly presenting him or confronting him with the necessary contradictions, evidence and logic that would change their mind.
3 Do not waste your time doing this more than once per person.  Once is enough.
4 If he changes his mind, great.  You have changed someone's mind.
5 If he doesn't change his mind, he refuses to understand, or he starts bringing up new excuses to negate your arguments, triage him as resistant to reason, point it out so that others can benefit from your discovery, and move on.  Do not engage him any further, as engaging him more is only going to cost you your time and further headache.
6 If he becomes abusive, starts attacking you, or starts openly advocating for aggression, report him to the moderators using the "report post" link or the  "message the moderators" link (attach an explanation with evidence).  We will remove him at once from the subreddit.

(...)

When such persons engage in "debate", they really are only engaging in a toxic form of self-manipulation.  The goal of the self-manipulation is to suppress cognitive dissonance, suspend rational thoughts and "dangerous questions" to their belief system, and to calm their negative emotions.  Their actions clearly telegraph "I don't want to think.  Please make it stop.  You are hurting me with your ideas."

They accomplish that by (unconsciously but) deliberately transferring their own frustrations and negative emotions onto you, both by abusing you directly or indirectly, and by generating copious amounts of frustration on you.  It's quite literally an attack on your well-being and peace of mind, falsely posing as an "argument", to get you to stop questioning their belief system, so that they can return to their previous emotional state.  This behavior is both dishonest toward yourself, and dishonest toward themselves.

(...)

There is another class of people who will behave in the same manner (or almost indistinguishably).  It is the paid shill, tasked with generating the same reactions out of you, and / or applying COINTELPRO tactics on your community.  If you have a well-founded belief that a person is engaging in this type of activity, please report them immediately to us.

(...)

Governance guidelines
Moderators' prerogatives, suggestions and criteria

(...)

If it helps to visualize your mission, think of yourself as a nightclub co-owner and part-time bouncer.  You will get loud and obnoxious drunks at the door, trying to get in to grope the girls, or trying to create an unpleasant environment for decent clubgoers so that they will go to another club.  You accomplish your job best by standing completely impassive, arms crossed, denying them entrance,  not giving a shit about whatever lies they yell.  From time to time, they may even repeatedly attack you -- in those cases, you simply rough them up a bit strictly in self-defense, humiliate them publicly so that others will identify them for the obnoxious pricks they are, and return to your previous usual chill.

(...)

People to be kept off the premises include anyone who is verbally abusive (particularly if they are repeatedly verbally abusive, or if they have a hostiry of defamatory behavior and false accusations), and anyone who advocates for archon-based relationships (especially if the person is deliberately trying to pass off archon-based relationship or aggressive actions as "voluntary and consensual").  You are also encouraged to ban people with whom you have had a disagreement in the past that ended up in him being verbally abusive or advocating for aggression.

(...)

You will get flak for this.  The whole point of the flak is precisely to manipulate you, through guilt and fear that your reputation will be tarnished, into backing down from your decision, no matter how justified.  They will alternate between trying to win you over and tryiing to hurt you.  That is normal; it is nothing but their childish manipulation tactics at play, and they behave in this manner because it worked for them in other situations.  You should do your best not to care about (or let yourself be manipulated by) the flak -- this is your house and you are entitled to keep undesirables off it.

Practical guidelines to identify unwelcome people and behavior

(...)

To protect the value of our community for our members, people engaging in the following behaviors -- whether the behavior happens in our subreddit or in other subreddits -- will be banned on the spot:

- People who repeatedly display verbally or physically abusive behavior towards others. Such behavior might not always be against the NAP, but we don't tolerate gratuituous assholes.
- People who make false or unsubstantiated accusations against others, in particular if the accusations are intended to defame, discredit or character-assassinate. Such behavior might not be strictly against the NAP, but we don't tolerate slanderers.
- People who advocate or make apologies for the initiation of violence against others (whether political, religious or familial), particularly against defenseless persons. Such behavior advocates and normalizes the violation of the NAP.
- People who repeatedly fog, prevaricate, disinform, mock, condescend, engage in concern trollery, engage others with logical fallacies, post inflammatory remarks, or in any other way act to provoke anger and frustration in people. Such behavior might not always be against the NAP, but we don't tolerate liars, fraudsters and agent provocateurs.
- People who display a systemic pattern of undermining, disrupting or sabotaging our community's members, discussions, morale and / or mission (as stated above), whether they do it alone or by conspiring with others. Such behavior might not be strictly against the NAP, but we don't tolerate shills, paid or unemployed.

(...)

Than you think is the case. Please show me where you got this erroneous (that means wrong) impression?

OK, so now that you know what the word means, would you like to explain how it applies?

Maybe you should look it up in the dictionary.  

Definition of hypocritical
adjective
behaving in a way that suggests one has higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case:

SudoGhost and his mother
The henhouse that is Wikipedia is controlled by the fox

SudoGhost is an incompetent control freak who by happenstance wrongfully obtained editorial control of Wikipedia, and he misuses this privilege to make Wikipedia a more content-free and less rumor-free encyclopedia; also his mother is filthier than the legendary whore of Babylon.