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1361  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Millionbitcons on: November 12, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
I have put a link on the website with some information and this discussion.

Jan de Graaf

I cannot find any new link over the page.
1362  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Report Against CryptoXchange $100k USD on: November 12, 2012, 07:58:47 PM
I have complet of docs which crypto ask me.
Сrypto running from my lawyers who want to transfer documents.


Provide the necessary evidence to substantiate your claim.

With appropriate evidence you can request a scammer tag for the users representing the CryptoExchange in this forum.
1363  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: millionbitcoins.com on: November 12, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
How exactly is this a scam?  I mean is it stupid?  Yup.  Is buying advertising space a horribly bad idea?  Yup.

Neither of which make it is a scam.  Thread should be closed.  If everything is a scam then scam means nothing.

The system is not in place and is already asking for funds. Of course this is not exactly a scam. Bruno was being sarcastic when he started the thread. However, it could turn out to be a scam. Precaution is not detrimental for business with legitimate goals. If Mr Graaf is truly committed to offer a genuine advertising platform, no user in this forum will stop him.
1364  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [scammer] B!Z on: November 12, 2012, 02:25:20 PM
How was I to be aware that you had already generated the list?

You did not tell me you had already done it. We were discussing payment.

I received a PM after that with the list done for free.

I do not believe that I have scammed you in any way.

You made a promise:

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Let's make it 0.25 BTC.

Based on this promise the user worked to satisfy your request:

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I have yet to received payment, and I have the list for you.

You failed to keep the promise:

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This guy did it for free

If you did not wanted to pay, you should not promise to pay. You defrauded someone to work for you without the intention to pay.
1365  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Millionbitcons on: November 12, 2012, 02:15:13 PM
Don't worry. Nobody really takes Phinnaeus Gage seriously.

Not really true.

Bruno have already provided important information for this forum.
1366  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Millionbitcons on: November 12, 2012, 02:08:40 PM
#augustocroppo

Yes, I live in that address and I'm authorized to collect donations.

If this initiative goes on it will be an authorized company.
A notary will be involved.

This only happens if it works but I do not really believe it myself.

I'll wait a while and maybe I just have to stop with this.
There are several ways to reach the goal.

Publish the relevant information in the Internet page which proves that.
1367  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: millionbitcoins.com on: November 12, 2012, 04:38:54 AM
In the forum Scam Accusations is an article about millionbitcoins.
Personally, I understand very little of.
What's the problem anyway?

I do not believe that my plan can really succeed in this way.
I'm looking for more alternatives.

For clarity:

My plan is serious and I find multiple ways to realize it.
Millionbitcoins is just an idea, probably not the most brilliant but no more and no less than that.

The cleaning company is not mine, there live several people behind one door.

I have good intentions and do not understand why you're so upset about it.

And yes, you can buy weed in my street :-)

Jan de Graaf

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123777.0
1368  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Millionbitcons on: November 12, 2012, 04:36:22 AM
In the forum Scam Accusations is an article about millionbitcoins.
Personally, I understand very little of.
What's the problem anyway?

I do not believe that my plan can really succeed in this way.
I'm looking for more alternatives.

For clarity:

My plan is serious and I find multiple ways to realize it.
Millionbitcoins is just an idea, probably not the most brilliant but no more and no less than that.

The cleaning company is not mine, there live several people behind one door.

I have good intentions and do not understand why you're so upset about it.

And yes, you can buy weed in my street :-)

Jan de Graaf

Welcome to Bitcointalk forum.

That is the way the Bitcoin network regulate itself.

Do you live in that address? Are you authorized to collect donations in the Dutch territory? Which guarantees do you offer to prove that funds are being used for charitable purposes?
1369  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett on: November 12, 2012, 01:55:27 AM
From the Kraken fund newsletter:

30 September 2012



5 October 2012



14 October 2012

1370  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett on: November 12, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
The PDF newsletters he sends.

Would you please share this PDF newsletter? Judging by that graph I can only conclude that Patrick is completely clueless to produce pie charts or he is producing misleading data. It is important to verify the data which comes along with the newsletter to define what exactly that graph means.
1371  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett on: November 11, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
Yes it should. But his graph don't add up to 100%. Feel free to interpret it however you want.

Where did you obtained the graph?
1372  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett on: November 11, 2012, 08:51:46 PM
RMSR.
That means Read My Signature, Retard.

Lol, so of the two muppets in this thread one's a proven liar and the other's a proven nut.
Funny how the world works.

1a. I could be using the option which does not display post signatures.

1b. That is Fluffygirl's credentials. I have already proved that another user is acting in behalf of Mircea Popescu.

2. CharlieContent did not proved anything at all.

So, I am still waiting to known what you are qualified for...
1373  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett on: November 11, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
What are your "specializations"? I know that lying to people on the internet that you are married when you are actually 100% alone is one of them. What are the others?

(Yes Augusto, I found out. Busted! Haha.)

This is off the topic for this thread. Please, publish your rants in the thread you made for me.
1374  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Meni Rosenfeld's vanity thread on: November 11, 2012, 04:32:19 PM
Your set notation is still messed up. B ≠ D means that B and D are unequal (there is an element in one which is not in the other; there could still be an element common to both), not that they are disjoint (have no common element).

I agree, the elements which forms the belief and the disbelief are unequal.

Anyway, thank you by the answer. I will meditate on your logical argument to provide an consistent response.

1375  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett on: November 11, 2012, 04:21:09 PM
It's not evidence you idiot. Seriously, how do you manage to breathe and type?

Do you even know what sarcasm means?

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sarcasm?q=sarcasm

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Definition of sarcasm
noun
[mass noun]
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

By the way, I am still curious to know what you are qualified for.

I know that being ignored is one of your main specializations. What are the others?

1376  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett on: November 11, 2012, 03:20:13 PM
The Kraken fund was supposed to be 100% backed by his personal funds. (Note to self: Why would an investment ever promise 100% backing of losses and still send you profits? What's in it for them?)

(...)

An email was sent by PatrickHarnett two days ago to fund investors that the 100% backing didn't really exist. (...)

If Patrick made this blatant promise for his potential customers, and then later he provided evidence contradicting his initial promises, than a scammer tag should be issued. The investors should open a thread in this section and present the necessary evidence to prove the intention of fraud.

1377  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Meni Rosenfeld's vanity thread on: November 11, 2012, 03:01:38 PM
I don't understand your argument or its notation. "Believing that X could be true" is not the same as "Believing that X is true and not knowing how to prove it".

Which goes back to Graham's point - you seem to be wanting me to "pick a side" instead of treating it like any other statement that one can be uncertain about.

I am sorry about my mistakes. I completely forgot that sets must be represented by upper case letters and not numbers. My argument is based on the exactly meaning of the two words. I agree that there are connotations, but this do not change the meaning of the words.

The acceptance of a possible existence imply a belief in the subject existence. Of course you could argue that the existence could be true or is true. Whatever argument you choose, you have to accept the subject existence to determine if is true or could be true.

Let's imagine three hypothetical dialogues:

- Do you believe in the existence of Santa Claus?
- Yes.
- Why?
- Because is possible that a old man dressed in red clothes are living somewhere in the north pole.

- Do you believe in the existence of Santa Claus?
- No.
- Why?
- Because is impossible that a old man dressed in red clothes are surviving in the north pole under extreme low temperatures.

- Do you believe in the existence of Santa Claus?
- No...
- Why?
- I do not believe Santa Claus, but is possible that a old man dressed in red clothes are living somewhere in the north pole.

Notice the contradiction in last dialogue. The hypothetical character answering the questions first refuse the existence of the subject, then when required to justify his/her answer, he/she assumes the existence of the subject. This contradiction is not present in the first two dialogues because once the hypothetical character express his/her belief or disbelief, he/she straightly assumes the possible or the impossible existence of the subject.

My argument using mathematical notation is:

p ∈ B

The possible existence of the subject is element of the belief.

i ∈ D

The impossible existence of the subject is element of the disbelief.

B ≠ D

Belief and disbelief do not share any common element, therefore there is not any intersection between theism or atheism.
1378  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: millionbitcoins.com on: November 11, 2012, 05:56:03 AM
Perhaps the first donation is going to the next door company, which is specialized in cleaning. I just do not know what kind of cleaning... Money laundry?

http://www.zoekned.nl/Rotterdam/Schoonmaakbedrijf+SJK_1704590

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Schoonmaakbedrijf SJK
Schoonmaakbedrijven


Telefoonnummer
Tel.010 - 8185136

Bezoek adres
Slaghekstraat 63 A
3074 LA - Rotterdam

Post adres
Slaghekstraat 63 A
3074 LA - Rotterdam
1379  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: millionbitcoins.com on: November 11, 2012, 05:48:48 AM
The same registrant is also selling the domain crimeupload.com:

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Welcome to the home of crimeupload.com
This domain is for sale.
We accept Bitcoin.

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Domain name: crimeupload.com

Registrant Contact:
  
   J Graaf ()
  
   Fax:
   Slaghekstraat 63 A-2
   Rotterdam,  3074 LA
   NL

Administrative Contact:
  
   J Graaf (@hotmail.com)
   +31.0681311152
   Fax:
   Slaghekstraat 63 A-2
   Rotterdam,  3074 LA
   NL

Technical Contact:
  
   J Graaf (@hotmail.com)
   +31.0681311152
   Fax:
   Slaghekstraat 63 A-2
   Rotterdam,  3074 LA
   NL

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
   ns83.axc.nl
   ns84.axc.nl
  
Creation date: 28 Feb 2012 17:25:00
Expiration date: 28 Feb 2013 09:25:00
1380  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: millionbitcoins.com on: November 11, 2012, 05:33:38 AM
It seems legit...

 Roll Eyes

Slaghekstraat 63A
3074 LA Rotterdam

http://goo.gl/maps/7di8Q



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