First thank you for not disappearing completely.
You should thank MrTeal for that. Had he not figured out his identity, completely disappearing is precisely what Jason would have done. |
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Can you not begin by being honest ? Death treats dont make your miners in iceland disappear
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Nah, you dont say! To quote myself: Im gonna guess he will come up with some stalling tactic, blaming hackers or having to flee due to death threats, invoke some legal bullshit, whatever he does, he is going to try and win time. |
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I thought I was being generous.
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And i understand your opinion, really. This discussion is repeating every few days .. I don't know if it makes sense.. I'm not saying that this service is legit, because as I wrote there is no evidence. I just don't accept word "scam" without proof. Even "very suspect" would be more to the point, but not a "scam". That's all.
Thats because you reverse the burden of proof, putting it on us to prove something that will only be proven once its too late. If you had any sense, you would understand the burden of proof lies with the party soliciting your money. If they can not meet even the lowest burden imaginable (like responding to 'who are you'), every sane person would assume them to be a scam, until proven otherwise - which wont happen. This is true pretty much universally, but absolutely true on this forum and with anything bitcoin related. You know its a scam. I bet you its a scam. It will be proven its a scam. It is a scam. |
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Im offering 10 satoshi, just so that I have an account I can monitor. I dont think its worth a lot more anyway.
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Can you proof that they are scam?
The fact that no one, including all the shills and ref whores, is willing to bet even a single satoshi that they are legit, thats all the proof I need. |
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Provide source to back up your claim.
HaveLock operation does NOT comply with US/EU laws. Any company, whose stock is trading on HaveLock, is doing illegal business. HaveLock is awaiting the same fate of GLBSE.
Reading comprehension isnt your strong suit is it? Reread what I wrote you moron. Probably those blinders you are wearing thinking I was a havelock shill? |
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Dont want to sound sore because Im not a "legendary", but I have to point out a legendary account (gusti) was recently sold and has been used to legitimize a scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887578Id appreciate you add as criterion a legendary account with no negative trust or something along those lines. Unless you like being endorsed by known (even if, legendary) scammers. |
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As was saying, sec is not limited to US. And at the least they could block any American users from using Havelock, which I'm assuming is where a good chunk of the userbase is from.
Im quite sure havelock is legally obligated (under US law) to make sure its customers are not US citizens. The same applies to pretty much any industrialized country btw. Unless the operators of havelock have no intention of ever leaving Panama, they would be very unwise to not comply if/when the SEC tells them. And when that happens, well, we've seen it all before when exchanges start demanding proof of ID/residency. |
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Warren, if you want to scare them, use something thats actually true; at least under US security laws (other countries likely have similar legislation), promoting a ponzi scam is not just illegal, it subjects the person to the same penalties as each of the ponzi's he is promoting. (b) Prosecution of persons who aid and abet violations
For purposes of any action brought by the Commission under subparagraph (b) or (d) of section 77t of this title, any person that knowingly or recklessly provides substantial assistance to another person in violation of a provision of this subchapter, or of any rule or regulation issued under this subchapter, shall be deemed to be in violation of such provision to the same extent as the person to whom such assistance is provided. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/77oNote the "knowingly or recklessly". Just saying "I didnt know" isnt good enough. If you dont know, you shouldnt promote it. Since everyone here has been made aware that these are almost certainly ponzi scams, if you continue to promote them or shill for them, thats certainly reckless. Pirate is facing up to 40 years in jail for his bitcoin ponzi scam. Who is willing to join him for a few satoshi? |
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How you can be so sure? Just give me any proof and i will change my mind. Everyone can write what he want and i see that you are using this form..
How much are you willing to bet and what odds would you take? If you really believe there is even a remote chance these sites are legit, lets make a bet so you can actually earn quite a bit if you are right. More than you could possibly earn by investing in them. How about it? |
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If they don`t answer the emails they must have a reason for that. ex. they had maybe thousands of emails and not so nice I think, I sent them 4 emails and many others have done the same  I`ll wait and see what happens haven`t lost all my faith yet. And you think he couldnt post on his website or on this forum 'oops, we will fix this asap' ? Besides, you saw that he operated a blockchain.info phishing website a month or so before launching this, right? You think he turned legit all of a sudden and managed to start and fund a real company with a datacenter in iceland etc when just weeks earlier he was preying on people who mistyped an website URL to steal their coins? Yean, keep the faith. |
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Oh by that measure, ponzi schemes are >100 year old and bitcon ponzi's about as old as bitcoin. Yes  let me belive! But you dont. You are just pretending so that you can make money from other victims. So what you are really saying is "yes let me scam ". |
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Yep you have right Get used to it. |
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If you're sure the account was sold leave him a trust comment to warn people they are dealing with a different user
Wouldnt make a difference, since these scammers prey on newbies that know no better than only look at the green or red "trust". Fortunately, meanwhile 2 people from the default trust list have rendered the account useless for the scammer, and at the same time pretty much torpedoed the confidence scam they tried to pull off, that makes me happy. |
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If I achieve ROI. It will be a scam?
Yes, of course. It will just be a somewhat successful scam to survive that long. Or do you think anyone that ROId with pirate is proof it was no scam? |
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Statistically, after 30 years of scamming (or more) is difficult believe in this 30 years? What are you are talking about. So many people is believing in so many strange things..  I agree! Some people even believe couldmining.website is legit! Actually, thats not true, no one really believes that (since no one is willing to bet me that it is, regardless of odds or amounts), but many claim to believe it. Im pretty sure that includes you. |
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