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9161  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin part of the elite, the illuminati, new world order? on: June 09, 2011, 06:17:40 PM
If only the true nature of world power were that interesting?
9162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Bitcoin Lobbyist Firm to Represent Our Interests [Bounty: 4 BTC and growing] on: June 09, 2011, 04:39:51 PM
Seems like our elected officials only listen to two words; votes and money. I think Atlas has a good idea who's time will come. But for the short term, how can we show politicians that there are votes on the line and donation money to be made.
Instead of asking them why they are so F%$#ing stupid? Ask them where their BTC address for donations is? Tell them about the bright spot in our otherwise crappy economy. About how JOBS are being created.  

Senator, your not going to kill my job are you? Angry
9163  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Relations on: June 09, 2011, 04:28:37 PM
I wonder how bad the "bad" press has been? As mentioned above, it has not dropped the market. Indeed there has been a rally. The people who show up here after hearing about silkroad may be moving beyond that once they realize the real power and utility of bitcoin.
Not all these people are haters. Some of them are just skeptical about the claims they have heard, and ignorant of the real facts. let's not treat them as outsiders. Let's adopt them and bring them into the fold. That is how we change minds. Save your fight for PayPal and the banks.
9164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Establishment Plan: How to talk about Bitcoins properly on: June 09, 2011, 03:22:47 PM
In the future your money will be digital. That money will cost you a lot to store and spend. This is already happened to a large extent. Consider how much more expensive it is to use your credit card vs. cash.
The real strength of BTC is that it has the advantages of being digital and it is still your money to spend and save at basically no cost.
9165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else here went through the Dot Com bubble in 1999? It is the same thing. on: June 08, 2011, 03:29:08 AM
I sold just ahead of the tech burst. It was a good year.  Cool
9166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If catastrophe happens on Earth and society collapses, would Bitcoins be useful? on: June 08, 2011, 03:24:27 AM
I'm not sure? But if it happens I'll have check back on this thread.
9167  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Rejected from the App Store "Bitcoin Watch" for iPhone (source available) on: June 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
I am using this app now. I was very happy to see it at the official app store! It just fetches prices right now, but if the option to spend from the phone is added... That would be a big development.
9168  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Letter to the EFF on: June 06, 2011, 04:06:38 AM
I will continue to offer the EFF donations when they take bitcoins again. After starting a thread suggesting we donate to them, I feel kinda burned.
 Angry
9169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin App on iPhone on: June 06, 2011, 03:42:50 AM
It implies that next week they are adding a wallet? I bought it in the hope it will expand to include a client.
9170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where I've been for the past week on: June 05, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
Congratulations to you and your fiancé.
9171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can anyone tell me what is this code means? on: June 05, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Just for verification i checked, the hashy looking string is not an Md5 of the username.
9172  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: June 05, 2011, 08:41:18 PM
Hey there is an app for that now! Huh
I just noticed Paxx Media AB has primitive iPhone app available at the official app store. It just fetches some Mt.Gox data at the moment but the author is promising more later. It's $3.99, not cheep but i bought it to show some support.
9173  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Big Bounty: 1,000 BTC (One Thousand BTC) Shared Among A Small Group Of Writers. on: June 05, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
...That's a rough translation of the Voynich manuscript, he said...
that made me spit my drink Cheesy
9174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can bitcoin enthusiasts comment on this negativity? on: June 05, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
Perhaps those who do not understand bitcoin think it's a ponzi scheme because they see promises of big growth, great rewards for early adopters, and because ponzi scheme is something they have heard of. He is right that early adopters stand to gain more, but then that's business.
The best counter argument is just to point out that the bitcoin economy is growing and diversifying. It's strengths are ease of use, price, privacy, and decentralization. Those are features that appeal to a global market and are in demand right now. Imagine what an entrepreneur in a poor country could do with a bitcoin phone app and a product to ship.
For those in the richer world, your paper money is going the way of the dinosaur. It's digital replacement will likely be much more expensive. For example; A dollar bill can be stuffed into a mattress, but a digital credit representing that wealth needs to be maintained. There is a cost plus profit associated with storing that credit and facilitating transactions. Consider how much it costs you to store and spend using your credit card vs cash. That is the digital future of your money.
 The good news is Bitcoin! Grin
9175  Local / 日本語 (Japanese) / Re: Japanese! on: June 05, 2011, 01:54:32 PM
我々は日本から多くの関心を持っている。我々は日本のセクションを持つ必要があります。
9176  Bitcoin / Project Development / On presenting bitcoin to the press/general audience on: June 04, 2011, 04:29:20 PM
As bitcoin gains the attention of a wider audience a consensus will emerge about what bitcoin is. I know I'm not the only one to mention the importance of helping shape bitcoins image and dispel some of the myths.  If NBC nightly news (a major US evening news) did a story about bitcoin tonight, what do you think it would say? 
I fear it would be about organized crime; i.e. money laundering,drugs, tax evasion, terror. Not because bitcoin is about those things, but because those are the most sensational and easily digestible stories. We need to get the word out about the bigger bitcoin story. About how people are trading in new markets and developing their own convenient, inexpensive and safe economy. As memes go, that's not as sexy as drugs and terror. It is bigger news though.

Any money system is going to attract a criminal element. Consider the Hawala system in the middle east. Trusted for over a thousand years. And had it not been used to fund some terror groups I would have never heard or it. How can BTC avoid being similarly poisoned? The answer is with you fellow peer.

Let's start letting the press know about the bright spot in these bad economic times. There are many positive themes that would make a compelling and interesting story For example:

  • Globalization is not dying, it is going peer to peer
  • Consumers place faith in math over banks
  • bitcoin could open trade to many of the worlds poor


You could easily come up with more of your own and I think you should. I'm not suggesting being deceptive about bitcoins potential use by criminals, but that needs to be in perspective and the mass media is not currently good at perspective. Please use this thread to post your thoughts and musings on how to portray bitcoin when attempting to explain it to a general audience.
9177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Relations: thoughts on interviews so far on: June 03, 2011, 05:03:16 PM
BTW, bitcoin'ers, start expecting a more probing press....
Good stuff. It's nice to know there are some grown ups here to shape the future of bitcoin. When I have finished my presentation notes I will post them here for others to use.
9178  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: June 03, 2011, 04:52:52 AM
+1 horkabork
I am also trying to be a responsible spokesperson for bitcoin. I will be presenting at a prestigious business school in August and I am very aware of the importance of words. As eluded to above, bitcoin will be delivered to the masses as a story. We can shape that story now, but perhaps not later. Do you want bitcoin known as a convenient, private way to buy and sell on the Internet, or as anonymous drug money for terrorist?
9179  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 4chan takes a chance on you on: June 01, 2011, 08:09:16 PM
An anonymous extortion? Yeah, I'm not afraid of cowards making veiled threats.

Here is a specific and direct threat for comparison:
Touch my bitcoin and I will split  your head open with an axe.
See, much more clear. Kiss
9180  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Youth on: June 01, 2011, 08:02:38 PM
Wait. I can fix this.
Ok kids, nobody do any more drugs.
There, that should do it.

as far as I'm concerned this is not a bitcoin problem.
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