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8721  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Only significant property owners should be allowed to vote. on: November 30, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
The problem I see with this is that most people would have no self interest in your government. I say YOUR government because it would not involve most people. How do you think those people are going to feel if you try making laws that apply to them?  Angry
When they begin planting IED's to get your motorcade, who is going to arrest them? The cop who earns just enough to pay rent?


It wouldn't be of any benefit to place laws upon proles. They have little value to cease. It would be a net loss to blow up motorcycles of poor people. Assuming this democracy is place under good moral governance, the property laws would be limited to commercial code and not individual persons; this is the case in regards to my original argument.
I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that only property owners would be able to vote. In which case you do not have a democracy, you have something more like a fascist oligarchy. I don't know what percent of Americans are property owners, but it must be small. Remember that in a family, only one person likely owns the house.
8722  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Only significant property owners should be allowed to vote. on: November 30, 2011, 08:45:34 PM
The problem I see with this is that most people would have no self interest in your government. I say YOUR government because it would not involve most people. How do you think those people are going to feel if you try making laws that apply to them?  Angry
When they begin planting IED's to get your motorcade, who is going to arrest them? The cop who earns just enough to pay rent?
8723  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Global Warming is real, but will not be a catastrophe on: November 30, 2011, 05:54:04 PM
Again, I hope your right. The Earth has not always been a place where humans can live, and there is no logical reason to believe it will support human life in the future.

How far back in history do you have to go to find a time when the Earth couldn't support human life?

If I recall correctly, CO2 concentrations were pretty darn high when the dinosaurs where walking around. There were no people around then, but I don't see any reason why we couldn't live in a much warmer, wetter world.
I'm not sure? I know we could not have lived before the oxidation event, but how far back is a good question. I doubt temperature would be the issue.
My concern for the future is not just a warmer earth, but an increasing heating one. A few degrees warmer would be a challenge, but our inventive minds survived the ice ages. (That is what a few degrees colder looks like.)
but what about 5 degrees warmer? The Earth would look much different then. It could speed up the desertification of the planet, perhaps leaving vast areas uninhabitable. It would be mankind's greatest test.
8724  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Global Warming is real, but will not be a catastrophe on: November 30, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but there's an ice-age on the way.

True.  Apparently we are in whats called an interglacial which means a small break in a major ice age.
True. we are likely in an interglacial. But it is unclear how the additional CO2 will effect this cycle. In the last 100yrs. we have released carbon that took millions of years to accumulate. Remember that gasoline is a solar based fuel, and a million years of solar collection is a lot of energy.
8725  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Global Warming is real, but will not be a catastrophe on: November 30, 2011, 04:50:45 PM
I hope you right Gavin. There are many unknowns in warming up the atmosphere.  One disturbing observation is the melting of the permafrost. When it melts it releases stored CO2. This causes further warming and melting. The amount of CO2 stored in permafrost dwarfs the amount we put in the sky via burning fuel. If it goes, the world may very well be a place humans can not live.
The oceans are also a great concern. As coral reefs die around the world, a major carbon sink is being lost. Other carbon sinks include the giant tropical forests that existed on the Earth until recently.
The last fact that concerns me is the inaction I have seen so far. About 25years ago I attended a lecture on this topic at a science museum where I worked.  It was shocking to see the initial data and to ponder what it could mean. I was young and more optimistic at the time. I assumed the serious people of the world would be jolted into action. What has actually happened since then is that we have not even been able to reduce the rate of growth of greenhouse gases, much less reduce the total. Businesses concerned only with the next quarter hire fake scientists to work against the worlds efforts.  And in our scientifically illiterate society global warming is treated as a "belief" rather than the repeatable, testable fact that it is.
Again, I hope your right. The Earth has not always been a place where humans can live, and there is no logical reason to believe it will support human life in the future.
8726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Dwolla The Manipulator? on: November 30, 2011, 03:29:40 PM
I bought some BTC last night. I funded my account with Dwolla. I can see no way they could have manipulated anything?
8727  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Istanbul'da Lirası için Bitcoin? on: November 29, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
Looks like I will be in Istanbul around the holidays.  Any Turkish peers want to meet?
8728  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin Party on: November 29, 2011, 02:33:45 PM
damn, I thought there was a party somewhere  Embarrassed

me too...  Grin

me 2   Embarrassed
8729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If I cared about Bitcoin I would do this on: November 28, 2011, 09:22:06 PM
I have zero interest in a bank to manage my bitcoins for the same reason I don't want a bank to manage my gold bars, I don't need it.
I guess it's a good thing you don't care, because I think you would have lost money on your idea.
8730  Other / Politics & Society / Re: That's it. I am done. This country is done. I am getting the fuck out of here. on: November 28, 2011, 05:43:10 PM
Sure tyranny happens, but you are more free than most people throughout time and geography.  For example; When and where else in history could I decide I want to live as a girl, then insist that everyone else play a pretending game with me? How few societies have ever arisen that allow me to say "there is no God" or "my leaders are idiots"?
There is always room for more freedom, but let's not forget how good we have it.  
8731  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Really? on: November 23, 2011, 08:40:31 PM
I know it is annoying for our new members but if you had seen what a concerted effort at destroying these forums did several months ago, you would support this measure as I do.
8732  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I just want to not be a newbie lol on: November 23, 2011, 08:37:23 PM
The hope is that your brief time as a newbie was spent thinking up something productive to post. Anyway, welcome fellow peer.
8733  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buy shares NOT on: November 23, 2011, 07:41:39 PM
I think you have done enough.

You had a business which failed (it happens even to the best).  You did the honorable thing and attempted to make shareholders whole (better than most would).
...
+1  I've owned businesses, and had them fail. It is part of the game. I would still do business with you.
8734  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: UK severs ties with Iranian Banks on: November 23, 2011, 05:54:51 PM
All opinion aside, doing most business transactions with Iranian citizens would be illegal for U.S. citizens. 
8735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.5.0 on: November 23, 2011, 03:33:28 PM
For Ubuntu users, there is a new ppa maintained by Matt Corallo which you can add to your system so that it will automatically keep bitcoin up-to-date.  Just type "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin" in your terminal, then install the bitcoin-qt package.
For those interested in this, please note that currently the ppa directs you to an outdated version. Specifically, version 0.3.24

no it's not, just add the posted ppa and "apt-get update". I installed from there with no issues. All the dependencies too

Ah, that did it. Until I added "sudo apt-get update" all I could see is the older version. Just installed without further issue on a fresh Ubuntu 11.10 system. 
8736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.5.0 on: November 22, 2011, 08:11:03 PM
For Ubuntu users, there is a new ppa maintained by Matt Corallo which you can add to your system so that it will automatically keep bitcoin up-to-date.  Just type "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin" in your terminal, then install the bitcoin-qt package.
For those interested in this, please note that currently the ppa directs you to an outdated version. Specifically, version 0.3.24
8737  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin and The First Amendment on: November 22, 2011, 05:51:45 PM
I have no legal expertise, but it sure seems to me that there are a lot of ways to argue for the legality of bitcoin.  Even if it were to be outlawed, what would that do? Downloading music is illegal, look how swimmingly that has worked out.
8738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The new interface in Bitcoin 0.5.0 is BAD! on: November 22, 2011, 05:41:37 PM
Many people have missed their possibilities to beta test the client, but now they aren't missing any to complain Grin
There are many discussions with 7 RC builds ( and one completely dedicated to the GUI ), if you missed them ... it's your fault.

lol +1
8739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Occupy Wall Street and BTC Prices on: November 22, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
That's exactly what we need: An inflow of liberal blowhards with their hands out. Sounds awesome.

Us liberals are already here. Remember we built the Internet, with the help of Al Gore.  Kiss
8740  Other / Off-topic / Re: Judge beats daughter for using the internet on: November 22, 2011, 03:25:52 PM
Man if I were the judge hearing the case against this judge, I would definitely sentence him to a public flogging.  Angry

When I first saw that video, I wanted to badly stick a pineapple up his ass. Now, I want to stick the whole fuckin' pineapple tree up his ass. I can't think of words to describe what he did and how he acted during the beating of his daughter, albeit the crime she committed, she deserved at least 10 years in the state prison--she downloaded songs from Napster.

Is that what she did? How did we get to a point where music is primarily about money, and unauthorized listing is a crime requiring the beating of children? Thanks RIAA!
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