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5401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi reveals himself, what would be of Bitcoin? on: January 08, 2017, 04:36:41 PM
I think If Satoshi reveals himself, their will be no changes to bitcoin, except he start selling his Bitcoins (1 Million bitcoins) that will just
make bitcoin have no value, it will shut from current price 900$ to .9$ so I think its a good point for Bitcoin that Satoshi is now hidden in some where  Grin

first of all the 1 million is a complete estimate and it may actually be a lot less than that. also you do realize that since 2008 there have been 15.01 million more bitcoins mined making it a total of 16.01 million. in other words even 1 million BTC is 1/16th of the total number of coins currently available.

i am not denying the effect that a possible movement of those coins may have but it certainly wound't kill bitcoin by making its price drop 99.9% (based on prices you said)
5402  Economy / Economics / Re: Guy loses 240-600 BTC trying to short on: January 08, 2017, 04:26:51 PM
-snip- So what is your point actually, just popping up and saying some empty verbiage? You have the right, indeed, but never forget who is your campaign manager

if you don't like my opinion or disagree with my speculation you don't have to attack me, jeez man relax.

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right now it is a little over 900 dollars. But never mind, we still have a lot of room below to go further down, this may be only the beginning

the only thing i can tell you since you apparently dislike it when people disagree with you is that lets wait a couple of weeks and see what is going to happen.
5403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China New Year on: January 08, 2017, 04:21:26 PM
What effect wil the china new year have for bitcoin?

if you ask me the only effect that the China new year can have for bitcoin is a very short lived dump where price can possibly come down <5% and then whales buy the coins from the weak hands and then price jumps back up >5%
5404  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying More Bitcoins on: January 07, 2017, 05:53:36 PM
i have been buying bitcoin in the past two days silently and whenever price goes to the $830+$20 because that price seems to be a good support level from what i have been seeing in the USD market and from the equivalent values in the Chinese markets.
and we are already back to $900+ for another time.
5405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does any bank accept Bitcoin? on: January 07, 2017, 05:39:17 PM
Did anyone thought about connection between bank's and bitcoin, they are two different worlds. Banks are for fiat, bitcoin is just ruining their business. Same with PayPal and Western Union, bitcoin took piece of their profit.
Banks will never accept bitcoin, maybe better question how can banks contribute to bitcoin, can they? Wink
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in my opinion that is not entirely true and possibly never will be.
bitcoin is not a stand alone currency like USD, CNY,... where people earn it and spend it as they do with their salary, as long as this is true we need to buy bitcoin with fiat and because of that we need banks and any bank that starts accepting bitcoin and lets his customer buy bitcoin directly through the bank and even store them there is going to earn a lot of money and become the pioneer in this business.
which bank do you know who doesn't like making lots of money?
5406  Economy / Economics / Re: Guy loses 240-600 BTC trying to short on: January 07, 2017, 05:31:10 PM
https://twitter.com/whalecalls/status/815598251319640064

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Okcoin $BTCUSD Quarterly futures has liquidated a short position of 47857 contract at 1,065.58 - 2017-01-02 00:38:56


I tried to warm my friends on IRC about the dangers of shorting, but they wouldn't listen.. they think they can time the market, when this is impossible, you can only look forward to trying to predict the fundamentals, and the fundamentals are clearly telling us to buy and hold long term. People that bought every dip instead of trying to be the smartass that tries to short has made massive gains this year.

Bitcoin price decreased from $1130 to $946 recently.

Shorting can be profiable if done at the right time.

I was expecting that bitcoin price correction.

Now people will start massively claiming that they have foreseen this price correction

If you really expected it, why didn't you short Bitcoin after all? Those who actually expected it, poured their money into shorts. Not surprising that they mostly lost their coins. It is easy to be wise after the event. Folks had been expecting correction since the price reached 800 dollars per coin and so what? Market manipulators waited until people started to really put their money where their mouth is and then grabbed all their dough (as they always do)



The basics of trading for kids

i disagree with most of what you said specifically the chart.
because it is a correction after a bubble, and a bubble is a normal thing that happens everywhere, the difference here is that people are seeing it for the first time in their lives and never seen any other market to have bubble.

also the term dead cat bounce is mostly for a dying market when price is generally falling for a long time and when it bounces back they call that dead cat bounce. in this case bitcoin has to fall from 900 to 200 and in this period the bounce backs are what you showed in the picture. but right now these are normal spikes due to volatility.

and not to mention that this chart is only showing a tiny part of what is really happening.
5407  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin crash - How deep it will go? When should i buy? on: January 07, 2017, 05:20:02 PM
The bitcoin price is crashing really hard at the moment and lost in the last 48 hours over 350 Dollar.
It go from over 1.190 Dollar to now 837 Dollar.

I think it is a good buy opportunity for us, but when i should buy, what do you think how deep it will be go?

Should i wait for 600 Dollar or should i buy now?

well the $600 is simply impossible, don't waste your time my friend. and as for when to buy, it is not easy to say. you should have bought before all this started at $700+ not now.
but if you want you can buy anywhere between $810 and $860 because it seems to be the range that bitcoin tends to go to and spring back up right after.
5408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How would you store >100 Bitcoins? on: January 07, 2017, 05:12:50 PM
Always usse different different wallets of different private keys to store ur bitcoins .it is the best as it will not create people s attention and u l be able to save it for a long future.
Its hard to manage more wallets or even three bitcoin wallet i can't handle it i will not store 100 bitcoins on my bitcoin wallet because first is i do not know what will happen. Second is bitcoin is unstable price if the bitcoin price drop in to middle its really hurt for me.

as far as handling multiple wallets go, it is easy. and if you try it you will see it too. it is the same as what you do in real life with fiat. one wallet in your back pocket, one wallet in your bank account.
here you have one paper wallet and one hot wallet on your pc and one on your cell phone!

and as for price if you are worried then buy bitcoin when it is cheap. for example if you bought bitcoin 3 weeks ago or preferably before that right now you would just put your legs up, relax and enjoy the profit.
5409  Economy / Speculation / Re: this is a bear trap and we will go to 10k on: January 06, 2017, 06:23:49 PM
Why ANYONE would cash out when the block reward halved just a few months ago, is beyond me.

It's what Bitcoin is all about. 1500% ROI here we come!

saying things like 10K price and 1500% ROI (which is $12800) is as worthless as saying bitcoin is going to crash to $50

this is speculation topic and it has turned into a place for people to say random stuff and some others spam FUD...

Thank you! Ya, 10k won't be happening over night. Some day for sure because 16b market cap is very small (or whatever we're at right now. Something between 14 and 18 lol). It's volatile but not that volatile anymore. Gone are the days of 1500% ROI in a matter of days/weeks.

there never was "days of 1500% profit or ROI" even the biggest rise in the history (the 2013 rise to $1100) started from ~$200 and that is just 450% rise over the course of 2 months (2013/10 to 2013/12)

and it is worth mentioning the same rise took bitcoin 2 years to achieve with a solid slow rise with a strong buy support.
5410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What the community is looking for about bitcoin on: January 06, 2017, 06:16:07 PM
i believe mainly people are looking for profit, because most of them are seeing bitcoin as an investment anyways. so they are looking for anything about speculation.

but also many newer members are looking for "ways to buy bitcoin" you can also see this in the search term trends from google.

and always topics about security and how to make a proper cold storage is good to read for new bitcoin users.
5411  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Now When Bitcoin Reach Around 950 USD Price, Let's Talk How To Earn Max Profit on: January 06, 2017, 05:55:09 PM
when bitcoin price reaches a higher price you should start thinking about keeping it safer since it is worse a lot more than before. instead you are asking about the riskiest method of investing bitcoin: mining!
it is risky because of the places that are selling hash rate, they tend to run away too often.
and also even if you buy mining equipment yourself it is not yet good profit.
5412  Economy / Speculation / Re: this is a bear trap and we will go to 10k on: January 06, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
Why ANYONE would cash out when the block reward halved just a few months ago, is beyond me.

It's what Bitcoin is all about. 1500% ROI here we come!

saying things like 10K price and 1500% ROI (which is $12800) is as worthless as saying bitcoin is going to crash to $50

this is speculation topic and it has turned into a place for people to say random stuff and some others spam FUD...
5413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Its not as bad as it looks on: January 06, 2017, 05:27:12 PM
so far what i see is a volatile price which is the dream of day traders and lots of profit to be made because of this volatility. price is going up and down more than $50 a day and about $100+ the first day.

and in all this chaos price can not remain in $800-900 range which is a good sign.
5414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft Excel supporting Bitcoin ! on: January 02, 2017, 05:49:44 PM
is it me or Microsoft has been supporting bitcoin payments since like 2014?

i am not sure about the exact time they started it but yeah they have been having bitcoin payment for a long time.

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and yes,Microsoft Excel integration is going to be huge,going to put bitcoin out there for general public
next step is Google Adsense introducing bitcoin payments Smiley

that would be a dream come true. google adding bitcoin payment to Adsense is more than huge, it is ultra gigantic Cheesy
5415  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1/1/2017 Say hello to $1000 on: January 02, 2017, 05:32:39 PM
Seriously can't believe bitcoin price reached $1000 without massive dump from traders or investor since it usually happen everytime when bitcoin price is pumped.
I bet mainstream media will also make news about it and bitcoin price could rise up further.

there actually were massive dumps yesterday, but i didn't take screenshots of those mainly because it was night in my timezone and i was lazy. but many dumped big amounts, that i couldn't even believe seeing sold at once like 150BTC at once!
but you see that price has held up and even risen pretty nicely.

It passed over 1,000$ and leading to 1,200$ in this month.
That's so great year. Should We keep buying and holding bitcoins for 3 months later?

to be honest nobody can answer you that, i have added a chart in my last comment here you may want to read that.
but in the end it is your own judgement, bitcoin is going to be always risky i said it when price was $200 last year and i say it now too but i say it will rise a lot more than this till end of 2017
5416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 01, 2017, 07:07:35 PM
I checked which exchanges were above 1000 on coinmarketcap and noticed xBTCe at 2nd place for USD volume. Is that exchange related to btc-e? It shares the lowest price with btc-e.

[i m g]https://s29.postimg.org/pirlqkipz/coinmarketcap2.jpg[/img]

i know for a fact that XBTCE and BTC-E.com are affiliated together. you can find the link to XBTCE on the main site too. but the price difference is strange because i always though they are the same exchange on different platforms! (unless maybe it is coinmarketcap's update problem)

edit: more info: https://btc-e.com/news/229
5417  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1/1/2017 Say hello to $1000 on: January 01, 2017, 06:25:18 PM
iam not beliveable bitcoin price incrase again
nothing corection price, nothing down always incrase until reach 1000 dollar
what do you think bitcoin price in 2017, always incrase , or can down price

what are you talking about?!!
there were lots of corrections! take a look at the charts once again, do you see those dips where the chart is going down (mostly where the red candles are) those are corrections after a rise.
for example in my first screenshot right in the middle of the picture there is a correction where price goes down to ~973 and then rises again.
5418  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1/1/2017 Say hello to $1000 on: January 01, 2017, 05:58:13 PM
Good times but this is only the beginning gentlemen. Stay calm & don't sell too much or you may miss the real moon shot. HODL strong, don't end up missing the opportunity of a life time.
Why do you think so?
I´m thinking about ´investing´ in 1 BTC, please explain Smiley

This might help you see things in a better light:
this is bitcoin price from 2012 starting from ~$4 up to today which is $1000 and this chart is ignoring MtGox effect in 2013
5419  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1/1/2017 Say hello to $1000 on: January 01, 2017, 05:30:01 PM
Now the real question is when is the dip going to happen, so I can sell and buy again Smiley

thousands and thousands of people are crying right now when they see these charts because they had the same thought, sold and waited for a dip and the dip never came ...
5420  Economy / Speculation / 1/1/2017 Say hello to $1000 on: January 01, 2017, 05:09:19 PM
we are finally there guys the $1000 that everyone was waiting for, price is already on Chinese exchanges and we have touched $999.00 $1002 on bitfinex, $1000 on Kraken, $1036 on OKcoin







OKCoin is on fire right now (7199 CNY = 1036.62 USD)




will update this topic with new pic of $1000
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