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1  Economy / Gambling / Slide re-seeding event on: Today at 03:06:29 AM
Welcome to slide seeding event #2. We re-coded Slide to clean up our codebase add some changes/features. Unfortunately we pushed a version to production that had mixed up the two tables in the function that returned RNG inputs and thus our previous seed was exposed briefly.

This is being seeded the same way as the previous slide event using a method made popular by rhavar.

To prove our fairness we have generated a chain of 10,000,000 SHA256 hashes where each hash is the hash of the hexadecimal representation of the previous hash.

The last hash in the chain is: 8fdb3105bc0eee5ab95ebd3b94084a261422af67b53fca4d2ba480f32e3b7bae

The formula for generating the game result:
const gameHash = hashChain.pop()
const hmac = createHmac('sha256', gameHash);
// blockHash is the hash of bitcoin block 631,111
const hex = hmac.digest('hex').substr(0, 8);
const int = parseInt(hex, 16);
const result = Math.max(1, (2 ** 32 / (int + 1)) * (1 - 0.02))

blockHash used is Bitcoin block 650,200  which has not been mined at time of posting. Basically we are using the hash of a future bitcoin block as a client seed so players can be certain that we did not pick one in the house’s favor. I’d appreciate it if someone could quote this post so this is all set in stone.

2  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake 3 Out Now!!! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: August 13, 2020, 07:05:47 AM
Question related to the rambo raffle. In case the winner wont take the lambo and willing to get money equivalent to the Lambo's value.
Is it possible? As I think there are some people who do not want to get a huge attention from other people where he lives.
Or perhaps for some other reasons like something related to TAX.
Here in my country for example, the TAX system is not really friendly as we need to pay some percent from value of the stuff.
Lets say someone from my country win the Lambo, he/she will need to pay at least 17.5% from the value of the Lambo.
So let us know whether it is possible to get money equivalent to the Lambo's value or not?

We're strong believers in making it happen, if the winner prefers to get the cash value in crypto that is a possibility.  However I know our CEO is quite excited to go drop off the keys if possible.
3  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake 3 Out Now!!! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: July 30, 2020, 05:12:41 AM
I just saw this(quoted below) is account sale from your website allowed? obviously I can't afford it and won't bother buying an account. I am just curious whether it is allowed or there will be a penalty for those who will be caught buying an account(I am not sure how you'll differentiate a bought account though).

Stake diamond account for sale


Includes 250 a day reload

Basically paid for in 2 weeks
archived through:

Nah not allowed, we close any accounts that are deemed to be bought.
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake 3 Out Now!!! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: July 28, 2020, 12:00:30 PM

Can you please help me understand how your house edge works?

Lets take the Scarab Spin game as an example.
On my calculations chances of getting 5 WILD symbols in scarab spin slots is (1/30) *(1/30) *(1/30) *(1/30) * (2/41) = 0.000000060222824% and the payout for this win chance should be x16605000 (The bet amout 1 / 0.000000060222824% divided by win chance).

However in the payouts table it says 5 wild equals to x10000 payout.

As we all know, the house edge comes from a percentage decrease in payout in favor of casino. Can you please explain how did you got the 2.16% number? I'm not sure if that number is correct. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

Still curious

Believe it or not that payout on 5x wilds will not have much impact on house edge because it is such a rare outcome. Most slot games will cap out these rare payouts because otherwise someone could put $1 in and take $1 billion out  Cheesy.  I can look into the exact payout formula, we actually incorrectly advertised this edge as 2.7% for many months but after running many millions of round simulations we found it to be lower and adjusted accordingly.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: STAKE SCAMMM on: July 27, 2020, 02:24:21 AM
Your account was locked for multi-accounting amongst other reasons. Support sent you an email requesting that you verify documents. No response on your side to that email.
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 40 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: July 26, 2020, 07:38:33 AM
When playing on PD, always watch what's going on in the chat.

Today the minute I logged in I saw this:

It took me like 30 seconds to roll this one

and I won!

As if that weren't enough, there was a trivia several minutes later, in which I won again:

PD is a fun place to be! Smiley

The community managers are killing it, I need to come by for some trivia Smiley
7  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 314 on: July 26, 2020, 07:32:55 AM
4 @ 0.07
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake 3 Out Now!!! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: July 26, 2020, 07:30:19 AM

I thought 5 wilds in the Scarab Spin slot is just a myth for me as I have never expected to get 5 wilds but luckily I manage to hit it several hours ago. Even surprising I hit it on my first spin after moving from playing the plinko game. Was playing it with 5 lines only and got the 5 wilds on the 5th line Smiley It is a proof that luck may come anytime without any signs before. A nice day for me at Stake and for sure this is my biggest win on the Scarab Spin slot so far.

Brilliant! So insanely unlikely that you hit it on the first spin!
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: DO NOT PLAY AT STAKE.COM. 1st DAY betting there and they have SCAMMED ME on: July 24, 2020, 05:56:38 AM
Hi Eagles,

Sorry we had an issue with our odds provider. We actually ended up choosing to pay out all the winners and void all the losing bets.

You can claim a full refund by using this link.

I will explore the issues you had with live support, again please accept my apologies for the inconvenience and frustration.

That is okay since it appears things are resolved. However, when I click that link it says “coupon code no longer valid”. My balance is still near 0 and ticket graded a loss.

Can you please add the 0.0275 BTC to my account directly? My account is “bitcoin53194”.

 I appreciate your quick response on here and will change/delete this thread. I apologize for the aggressive commenting but how quick I was blocked on live chat I was very upset. I am headed to bed but hope to resolve this in morning.

Please check your PM's will sort this out for you. No need for apology I would have been pissed off as well!
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: DO NOT PLAY AT STAKE.COM. 1st DAY betting there and they have SCAMMED ME on: July 24, 2020, 05:37:12 AM
Hi Eagles,

Sorry we had an issue with our odds provider they made an absolute mess. We ended up choosing to pay out all the winners and void all the losing bets so it cost us a fair bit.

You can claim a full refund by using this link.

Our support should have got in touch with you via email, if there is anything else we can do to help let us know. Again apologies for the inconvenience
11  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 314 on: July 21, 2020, 05:58:49 AM
9 @ 0.04
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake 3 Out Now!!! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: July 21, 2020, 04:13:30 AM
Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%.  Gotta be said.

Stake Originals will continue to be a prime focus, the new providers were highly demanded and are available for those who enjoy them. Stake games remain the primary section of the website. With our new partnerships we are now in a position to action change in the long-term from a provider level. We are not trying to pretend like the third party providers are provably fair, we did however carefully select our partners. if you prefer to view Stake without the extra games
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: | Crypto Powered Sportsbook and Casino | 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: July 20, 2020, 06:15:59 AM

Stake version 3 is now live! Exciting day for Stake, all your favorites are finally under one roof  Cheesy
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: | Crypto Powered Sportsbook and Casino | 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: July 10, 2020, 05:39:06 AM
Some fun updates today:

Our new slot game, samurai slots is now live!:  Give it a spin!

We have also greatly improved the betting experience for esports events with livestreams embedded for the major esports and much better real time statistics.
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: Scam LAST STRAW FROZEN ACCOUNT on: July 01, 2020, 05:48:41 AM
Your account is frozen for multi-accounting, you have continued to make new accounts after being restricted on other accounts for other reasons. Complete KYC and as a one time gesture of good will we will get your funds unfrozen one final time so you can go play elsewhere.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: !!! BC.GAME SCAM - CRASH GAME NOT PROVABLY FAIR + DECEIVING BITCOINTALK USERS on: June 14, 2020, 12:51:50 PM
I think you possibly misinterpreted how crash games work. Crash game is not similar to dice where you have a server seed and client seed. Crash games have a chain of server seeds and they don't have client seeds, as the output has to be same for all the users who make a bet on a particular server seed. If they use client seeds the output of a particular seed will be different for different users. So instead of using client seeds, they use the hash of a future bitcoin block into the algorithm so that output is the same for all the users and provably fair. Other popular crash games like bustabit, stake etc, have also used the hash of a future bitcoin block instead of client seeds.

Crash uses a client seed, it is always the same one for every bet. It doesn't look like there was a seeding event for their crash game

Rhavar pointed this out in the past, he actually pointed out a few flaws in their fairness which had a 100 ETH bounty offered but it seems they kept brushing him off. I see that they updated their fairness for other multiplayer games using the correct seeding event/scheme but crash must have been left unchanged.

Why the house should not be trusted to choose this seed:
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: | Crypto Powered Sportsbook and Casino | 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: June 02, 2020, 03:49:18 AM
Stake hasn't really been doing so much about sportsbook once again. It is really sad because they market the whole idea of "stake will have sportsbook" for a year or even maybe longer and when it got here... nothing. Everyone is doing MAJOR promotions about the leagues coming back, and stake here just watching because they say its third party provider and that's it, they get out of all the trouble of it by just saying that.

I would have expected much bigger major promotions, but nothing seems to be really working for them anymore. Primedice used to be the greatest marketing casino in the whole world, that was one of the reasons why just-dice vs primedice was decided with primedice becoming much bigger, but for some reason for the past year or two the marketing became "HEY THERE WE HAVE A RACE" and that's it, nothing else.

I suppose there's some truth in that both Primedice and Stake haven't been doing their best in terms of being more engaged with the community particularly on the level or promotion/marketing. And it may just be that until now they were content with being the top gambling places to go to but I think there's a very important lesson emerging here and that is that you can't be too complacent when it comes to online visibility and such a dynamic industry as even if you may have the spotlight for the moment that will not last forever.

It should appear evident though that more will need to be done soon before other more engaging platforms start taking over and I'm sure this is something that this community has been battling for a while but I do agree that in order to maintain the high traffic and getting the new customer more action needs to be taken now...

With the lack of sports going on right now and the boom in casino gaming a lot of our effort at the moment has been focused on the casino side of things. You raise some fair points and I will share your feedback with the team so we can build some better promotions for you. With sports making a comeback we will try and do some better promos, let us know specifically what you want to see. in my opinion is the best website for betting and is believed to be from the first present until now

Thanks Bajank Smiley we have some big updates coming soon

18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The Expert Scam on: May 21, 2020, 05:20:31 AM
please  look into tbese 4 bets all are real and with proof its same two probs of accpetin bets after goal and points messed up

Thank you for helping

sport: 1,436,305
Sport: 1,418,969
 Sport: 1,399,881
Spot :1,234,360

I'll look into these and follow up if I see anything out of the ordinary. I should probably preface this by saying that we do not control what bets or accepted or declined and use the same partner that some of the largest sportsbooks in the world use. Also if you are not accepting all odds changes the likelihood of your livebet being rejected is much higher. There naturally has to be some level of latency because if someone has a slightly faster odds feed than a sportsbook they would be able to front-run and bankrupt a book.
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: | Crypto Powered Sportsbook and Casino | 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: May 21, 2020, 05:04:03 AM

New multiplayer game slide is now live!
20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The Expert Scam on: May 21, 2020, 04:51:48 AM
I'll respond to the sports accusations later. But the fact that you are saying our provably fair is not to be trusted because I founded the crypto gambling foundation is a total laugh

So provable fair is mostly  casino plus client, equals output  because they client/player controls part casino can not alter it. Now this is great and if implanted properly it will make a site 100% fair; But its not on  Let say you play blackjack,  provabe fair was not just spit out a card it mostly is just part of equation/ script to choose a card. So its mostly provablr fair part times script equals card . So why casino does not control provable fair part they can greatly increase there house odds by altering script that selects they cards  . For example provable fair picks a card it will be 100% random because its provable fair, but if the deck is all ace of hearts does not matter how random because only card to pick from is ace of hearts. So even though its so called provable fair its not really fair.  But it will still look provable fair because none of seeds were altered at all.

Feel free to ask any questions about this part.

Now this part is less proven but based on my own expirnces of playing a lot in a pretty good number of games i have came too see many weird things that are not right mathmatcailly and talking to other people with similair results. My only concusion is something is a miss,

This is simply not possible, there is a clear misunderstanding with how proper provably fair works.
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