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Miners do not generate coins.  They process and secure transactions, for which we, the bitcoin community, reward them from a preset pile which has existed from the very beginning of the bitcoin implementation.  It's an important difference.  We all need to get used to both thinking of it and explaining it this way.

So basically, the Zeitgeist Movement makes movies, holds events to promote the movies they make, and raises money to make more movies. Yes, it would be great if you could get the Venus Project to accept Bitcoin donaitons. But, you know, I have seen all the Zeitgeist movies and I have to say that the second and third episodes seemed like re-packaged versions of the first one, with maybe 90% re-hashed material. It would be pretty hard for me to get excited about funding another one unless there were some fresh material about real wheels on the ground stuff that people are doing to change things. I'll bet it would be a lot easier to get people in the Bitcoin community to be interested in helping to fund something like that if it contained a segment featuring Bitcoin...

Yes, and I see people in the Bitcoin community actively changing things.

Can you please inform us about the projects that people in the Zeitgeist Movement are working on?

And do they take Bitcoins?

The "we choose" bothers me a lot. Who's "we" and how do they "choose"?

Anyway, I'm currently reading the Zeitgeist Activist Orientation Guide, maybe it will answer my questions. I have to say though, the language used so far tells me that it either never gets to the "how" of organizing this new society, or that it's going to creep the hell out of me. Haven't gotten that far yet, though, so we'll see.

What ever happened with the Venus Project... Didn't they have to sell their real estate in Florida?

How long before we see the Venus Project produce a solution that is more than just talk?

You could run a lightweight Bitcoin client in a mobile phone, it's not high technology any more.
Cheap mobiles with Java are quite popular in poor countries to browse Internet.

Besides, isn't your project based on a premise that everyone will have access to high technology?
Or there will be people without access to it after all?

Finally, I don't think BitCoin is about creating one global currency... there can be many different solutions.
If someone doesn't have access to technology, he can use something else to exchange goods and services, like silver coins.
BitCoin doesn't try to solve all mankind problems...

Bitcoin solves this.

Isn't money just a universal object of barter? What separates money from people working for resource rights?

I feel ignorant and the only cure I know for a bad case of ignorance is knowledge. And I believe the best source of knowledge is some good ole fashion books.

Anarchists, libertarians and statists alike, lend me your book lists. What should I enlighten myself with?

Also, LightRider, feed me some of your Zeitgeist stuff. I'm interested.

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Antithetical to what?

I just want to say I have respect for the idea of a resource-based economy. If it can be achieved without coercion or at all is my main question.

OK, then how the people, who will be using the scientific method and analyzing all relevant and available data to arrive at decisions what to do with the resources, will be chosen in your society? With democratic voting?

Just on the point of growing your own fruit and vegetables, if you do have land (and it takes land to do this) then yes it is a lot cheaper to grow your own than to buy. There are a lot of natural, effective options available to those who want to spend the time.

But there is the issue, time, growing your own food is time/labor intensive. So if you live in the countryside and have 1/4 acre or more you would be surprised how much food you could grow there with enough work. I know from experience, having spent some time "homefarming" before leaving Ireland.

But this doesn't scale, the reason a lot of this is worthwhile for the individual is because they can put in the needed effort to get the most out of every inch of ground. I used to use nettles as liquid fertiliser (stick them in a barrel of water, after a week it smells like cow shit, great for plants, full of nitrogen, pour on the smelly liquid). But this kind of agriculture can't be done automatically on a large scale with only a few farmers.

[facepalm].   Dude, I totally dig the distributed urban farming stuff.  But saying that decisions "are arrived at by using the scientific method and analyzing all relevant and available data" just creeps me out and sounds like some sortof elitist selected group of scientists and engineers will be picked to centrally-plan society and tell me what to do. [/facepalm]

How will decisions be made in your society?

I think that's enough bashing of lightrider, welcome to the bitcoin community.

What you can do to ensure bitcoins uptake is to accept bitcoin as payment for goods or services.

I don't understand how such home farms could be more effective than agricultural business. Any technology that "home farmers" could use at home, professional farmers can use as well. Except they can use it on a much larger scale and with the help of specialists. I'm better in graphics than farming, so it's more effective for me to spend 2 hours offering Photoshop services and then trade money I earned for food, than on growing/processing the food by myself and to worry if my personal farm will grow enough of it for me.

This looks like going back to medieval age to be honest. The places in the world where there is famine problem are exactly the places with this kind of primitive economy (do it all by yourself). You just exchange a plough with some more fancy tools.