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1141  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: September 04, 2011, 11:33:31 PM
Where, in all of the preceding circular, self referential economics discussion is human need addressed? Or human social relations? Or environmental dependence and sustainability? How does tracking money value sequences have anything to do with the human condition?
1142  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [ANN] Discrete Hydroponics for Bitcoin on: September 04, 2011, 03:17:42 AM
Thanks! I'm looking forward to starting a hydroponics garden soon!
1143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Beyond Bitcoin: Decentralising other public institutions on: September 04, 2011, 03:01:32 AM
Ultimately, the goal should be removing the arbitrary burdens and restrictions that currency, government and other traditional institutions place on humanity. Check out www.zeitgeistmovie.com and www.thevenusproject.com
1144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: These guys are UNBELIEVABLE. The Brookings Institution weighs in. on: September 04, 2011, 02:05:38 AM

I never really trusted the ISA slot, to be honest.
1145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: These guys are UNBELIEVABLE. The Brookings Institution weighs in. on: September 03, 2011, 01:22:42 AM
What's the best way to rob a bank?

Stop using money.
1146  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: New block explorer type site needs testing / feedback on: September 02, 2011, 04:57:52 AM
I would like to see the Bitcoin Days Destroyed metric that is implemented in the ABE software, but otherwise good start!

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Days_Destroyed
1147  Other / Meta / Re: Resigning as a moderator on: August 31, 2011, 07:00:01 AM
Thanks for all that you've done for the community. Looking forward to great things from GLBSE!
1148  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Ubitex: In-person Bitcoin exchange [EARLY BETA!] [STOCK AVAILABLE] on: August 30, 2011, 04:42:25 AM
It is great to finally hear from him and learn what was going on. Looking forward to the future of Ubitex.
1149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Whole Country is Going to be Accepting Bitcoins, and I"M MOVING THERE! on: August 28, 2011, 06:20:38 AM
as long as the "ground" is able to flex by about 5-10 degrees every 100 meters or so, i think would be adequate to be safe.

you could also make a bunch of platforms and just join them together with bridges, so if one goes down, they don't all go down lol

also, how do you keep the island from floating too much without having to waste a bunch of energy on motors and such?

how about food, import it all? or set up farms?

according to this http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_agricultural_land_can_feed_one_person

300 square meters is enough for 1 person. id imaging this would scale some, and allow for dietary variety with about 100 people.

for 100 people thats 30km, square. depending on the meat to veg ratio (although i bet fish would be the main diet thing and i dont know how much that number assumes on hunting and fishing and such)

assuming it takes on average $75 per cubic meter of concrete to be laid, and the land or platform is .5m thick. 75*0.5*30*1000=$1.125m and that is just for the concrete to make the land to grow the food you eat, this would probably be higher, as i have no idea how much that $75 per cubic meter really covers. id guess its like $150 or even $200, as you are laying it in the ocean. this does not cover the cost of buildings or the soil you put on the concrete, along with roads and everything else. from start to finish, id throw out $100m or $50m if you are optimistic. although im sure the number could be in the billions.

another idea is everyone builds their own house or business to working standards and specifications. then people who agree to the same things, like laws and ways of government, simply latch on to each other and make a micro nation. if you do not like the way things and running, move your house or business elsewhere. when you make things this scale, overall it costs slightly more, but the cost load is distributed a lot more. so instead of billions, you talking maby 200-300k for the platform and another 100-200k for the house. if everyone had an efficient garden on their roofs, you could probably cover 10-30% of your dietary needs(one person, not a family).

You can grow food without land. Check out hydroponics and aquaculture.
1150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm the Bitcoin Roadtrip guy. I'm planning to live in Portland, OR on BTC alone. on: August 27, 2011, 06:03:45 AM
You are probably just crazy and experienced enough to pull it off. Good luck!

You might also want to look into hydroponics to grow some of your own food. It will reduce the need for currency altogether.
1151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Whole Country is Going to be Accepting Bitcoins, and I"M MOVING THERE! on: August 27, 2011, 06:01:02 AM
Reminds me of www.thevenusproject.com without the eccentric billionaire and the need for money.
1152  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: August 27, 2011, 05:45:53 AM
Monetary systems are just standards of value. Societal problems can't be corrected by the elimination of or reinvention of any system of exchange.

Different monetary systems promote different values and different ways to think and act.
You can read something written by Bernard Lietaer (or watch a video) if you're interested in the subject.


I was attempting, using a comedic monologue, to impart the idea that to truly eliminate undesirable behavior in the human animal you need to eliminate the religions of the world. Don't start with money. If you want to be successful start with GOD.

BTW: Lietaer, while he has some interesting ideas on human greed, will probably go down in history as the founder of the most rapid failure of a globally accepted currency system.

While religion is irrelevant to the implementation of an RBE, you should know that the first section of the first Zeitgeist documentary explores comparative theology and why religion no longer serves any meaningful purpose.

www.zeitgeistmovie.com
1153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open-Transactions: Video Walkthru! on: August 26, 2011, 12:23:36 AM
I don't know what it is you made, but I am both amazed and confused...

Amused.
1154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter to Bruce Wagner on: August 25, 2011, 06:17:31 AM
I agree with everything you said, Bruce, except I disagree completely about where the 'REAL magic" happened.  In my opinion, and I assume in the opinions of many of those who did not attend the conference, the real magic didn't happen at all. 

I would agree that there is something to be said for the utility of those conversations that were had amongst those at the convention, particularly among those who were (I hope) discussing real plans for forward movement.  However, the real magic that WE as the miners, sellers, and consumers who did not attend the conference wanted to see did not happen. 

The magic we wanted to see was an explosion of media hype.  We wanted all those amazing conversations converted into newspaper headlines.  Why?  Because the media has consistently gotten Bitcoin wrong.  It has misunderstood the program, the theory, the consumers, the merchants (omg omg omg illegal drugs everywhere!!!) and because of this, we wanted our collective voice heard. We wanted investors to have a reason to get involved with Bitcoin. 

Of course, it was beneficial for the Bitcoin Big Dogs to be there for each other for support and for communication about the future of Bitcoin.  But I have a feeling that most of that was just "feel good" talk...talk that reassured you that you all weren't wasting your time or crazy (don't get me wrong, I'd feel that some REAL magic happened if I got to interview that chick from Bit-pay, too).  The most common reason businesses or presidential candidates succeed is because they are known, and they are known through the media. 

Beyond the hype, the ideas and theories supporting the businesses or candidates barely even matter...they are secondary.  Because of this, Bitcoin must also be known through the media, and on a large scale.  Otherwise, you end up with Ross Perot -- a guy with really amazing ideas and a common sense approach, but nobody will ever give a shit.

By the way, I love your commitment and your show.  And, I want you to enjoy your conference high.  Just please come down from it sometime and realize how important the media coverage really is.

Technology succeeds or fails regardless of media attention. The "media" is obsolete, irrelevant and corrupt, and relying on it to evangelize a system that directly threatens the monetary system they thrive on is a losing strategy. Media attention does not produce anything of value, only passionate and committed people who engage in those pursuits that benefit the technology and community will do so. Your expectations are what betrayed you, not the good faith efforts of others.
1155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Conference 2011 NYC on: August 24, 2011, 03:03:17 AM
I don't know how an internet currency is supposed to work on a cruise liner with little to no internet connectivity. Good luck with that!
Cruises have satellite internet spread out via wifi to passengers.

But they overcharge for the access, or so I've heard. It will be an excellent test of bitcoin's ability to work in limited connectivity areas, if anything.
1156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter to Bruce Wagner on: August 24, 2011, 02:57:35 AM
If you are so deeply concerned about bitcoin, stop complaining about the past and work towards its future.
1157  Bitcoin / Pools / p2pool - Decentralized, Absolutely DoS-Proof, Pool Hopping-Proof Pool [archival] on: August 24, 2011, 02:52:07 AM

Great! Although, my actual payout is nowhere near the estimated payout.
1158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Conference 2011 NYC on: August 24, 2011, 12:10:36 AM
I don't know how an internet currency is supposed to work on a cruise liner with little to no internet connectivity. Good luck with that!
1159  Bitcoin / Pools / p2pool - Decentralized, Absolutely DoS-Proof, Pool Hopping-Proof Pool [archival] on: August 20, 2011, 09:02:58 PM
http://onlyonetv.com/watch-live/

Jeff Garzik just mentioned P2Pool at his conference talk!
1160  Economy / Marketplace / Re: List of honest traders. on: August 18, 2011, 10:50:56 PM
once again:

+1 to mrbashfo
+1 to LightRider

loyal customers of gift cards  Cool

+1 to tsvekric for a quick, easy and good deal.
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