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481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: jgarzik goes berzerk in #bitcoin-dev, wtf? on: December 02, 2012, 09:12:25 PM
So the better message is "Core bitcoin developer doesn't want Iranians using his software!"? Good luck with that one.

Everyone is viewing this through their own filter.  You're seeing it as "Jeff doesn't want Iranians using Bitcoin".  Others are seeing it as "the devs don't want to be seen to be modifying the official client in a manner which could be regarded as specifically intended to help people bypass the embargo".

Which is antithetical to the purpose of bitcoin technology in the first place. The idea that no government can control what people do with their money.
482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: jgarzik goes berzerk in #bitcoin-dev, wtf? on: December 02, 2012, 09:09:47 PM
I would like to share an illustrative video of what people doing business as "government" are about:

http://vimeo.com/5726046

As my main man Marc here says, they are not dumb.  People who manage to make millions of human beings believe that their green pieces of paper are "money" and real money (gold, silver, Bitcoin) is "funny money", people who manage to make millions of human beings cheer for mass murder and even invade other people's homes and murder them, these people are much, much smarter than you think.

Jeff Garzik is preventing everyone from questioning the actions of these guys.

They're not smarter, they just have a monopoly on the use of force and violence to maintain compliance. A smart person doesn't have to resort to these measures.
483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: jgarzik goes berzerk in #bitcoin-dev, wtf? on: December 02, 2012, 08:50:31 PM
So the better message is "Core bitcoin developer doesn't want Iranians using his software!"? Good luck with that one.
484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: the long game on: December 02, 2012, 04:52:52 AM
It may be too late for the long game, since Iranians apparently already know about Bitcoin, and by prolonging discussion in this thread you only increase the probability that even more Iranians will get to know Bitcoin because of viral Streissand Effect which you created with your censorship act.

Let's see.  What if one knew ahead of time that
  • the forum is full of idiot trolls
  • the chat logs are watched closely by said trolls

Like I said.  Chess.

So JGarzik trolled a productive discussion in order to encourage more productive discussion? But then he denounces trolling as idiotic? So this thread that he dislikes was his intended purpose? I thought it was accidental. Which is it Garzik? We refuse to be your pawns!
485  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-11-29 businessweek.com - Dollar-Less Iranians Discover Virtual Currency on: December 02, 2012, 04:47:14 AM
JGarzik hasn't banned the OP and deleted this thread yet?

Dude's slippin'.
486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: jgarzik goes berzerk in #bitcoin-dev, wtf? on: December 01, 2012, 05:09:41 AM
What do the Bitcoin Foundation members think about their representative banning someone for talking about Iran? Is it the foundation's official position that bitcoin is the currency for everyone!*

*Everyone meaning those not deemed undesirable by government authorities.

It seems such a position would be in line with the EFF's statement that they are scared of bitcoin. Is the foundation scared of bitcoin also? If so, how can it advocate for its use in a way that is indicative of its potential? Will the foundation encourage limiting discussion or efforts to spread bitcoin software to any other particular countries or groups? Has the foundation automatically bought in to the terrorism propaganda that they leverage to take any action they deem necessary, including midnight raids and drone strikes in foreign countries?

Garzik mentioned chess in his defense. Is the foundation ignorant enough to believe that any potential governmental foe is playing a fair game of any sort? That it adheres to any form of rule or law? Is the foundation naive enough to try and placate such organized efforts with this tiptoeing around its indiscriminate violence and shameful hypocrisy? This type of incident serves their interest more than it does bitcoin's, and if the foundation continues to play by this rigged game, it will lose. And it will lose because it misinterprets and grossly misunderstands the distorted values and ruthlessness of their opposition.
487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation on: November 30, 2012, 07:33:29 AM
Did they PGP sign the press release at least  Wink

I hope not. They couldn't disavow it in that case.
488  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation on: November 29, 2012, 05:05:25 AM
I assume the bitcoin foundation will put up a press release for the halving day?

nothing yet? the community could translate it into several languages but that takes time

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=52

Quote
Lindsay Holland    Nov 28 2012

We at the Bitcoin Foundation we very excited about the first Halving Day!  The 210,000th block was completed at 11/28/2012 at 15:24:38 UTC, and, from that point on, only 25 BTC will be issued per block found.

So far, Bitcoin prices are up 1% since close of business yesterday, and prices have risen more than 230% since January 1, 2012.

The next Bitcoin Halving Day will see Bitcoin mining rewards drop to 12.5 BTC per block mined, which is not currently estimated to occur until November 2016.

Read our full press release here.

Congratulations to everyone in the Bitcoin community on reaching this major milestone!

Press Release: http://www.prlog.org/12032578-bitcoin-community-celebrates-halving-day.html

They haven't put out a very good press release, but they did put one out there.
489  Economy / Services / Re: Introducing the Bitcoin 100: A Kickstarter for Charities on: November 29, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Has anyone brought up Child's Play and Desert Bus yet? I just tweeted @graham_lrr about accepting it for the event next year. No response.
490  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / [0x10c] Bitcoin IN SPACE! (Kindof) on: November 29, 2012, 02:58:45 AM
It has long been a fantasy to have Notch's Minecraft interact with bitcoin in some way. Unfortunately, it isn't that easy to do, and only just now are we seeing some very rudimentary integration.

However, Notch is now working on a new space simulation, complete with its own in game computing platform, meaning players can create and run arbitrary code! This is the opening we have been waiting for! Can working bitcoin software be created on such a measly spec? I doubt it! But it's an interesting challenge to say the least.

www.0x10c.com
www.dcpu.com
www.dcpu.ru
www.0x10co.de
491  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Testnet block reward halving on: November 29, 2012, 02:49:27 AM
Anyone have some spare testnet coins? Apparently the faucet is down.

mzgckGkqo75JAyLk4YoeEeFm5cMUdNtmbF

Also, if anyone knows of any public testnet nodes I can connect to, that would be great. I can't seem to connect to any automatically.

I sent you some coins to play with...

Dia

Thanks!
492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Halving Day Traditions on: November 29, 2012, 01:25:52 AM
We were brainstorming that it'd be fun to have certain traditions or rituals on this day,

Yup, not a currency. A religion.

All money is a religion. A belief in something imagined and not real.
493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Happy halving day on: November 29, 2012, 12:53:28 AM
One small step in the endeavor to end money.
494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 210000 block found on: November 28, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
posted this in the newby section earlier, reposting here now that I have been given access. 

I am very new to mining, and have been at it less than a week.  This was the first block I have ever found.  I decided to become involved in Bitcoins, because I feel that it could be the answer to all the evils of government controlled currency.  This isn't a "get rich quick scheme" for me. I believe that what we are doing can change the world.  I am incredibly honored to be a part of Crypto-Currency history. 

Thanks to Slush's pool for letting me join, if any new miners are out there looking for a great pool  https://mining.bitcoin.cz/ 

In case this post somehow goes down in history, I just want to say....   FUCK The Federal Reserve System.

Donations gladly accepted at :   
17wnLRDGD9xSzxBTte8poWJzqXqkzr7Q9G



Are you familiar with the Zeitgeist Movement or the Venus Project?
495  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Testnet block reward halving on: November 27, 2012, 08:01:58 PM
Anyone have some spare testnet coins? Apparently the faucet is down.

mzgckGkqo75JAyLk4YoeEeFm5cMUdNtmbF

Also, if anyone knows of any public testnet nodes I can connect to, that would be great. I can't seem to connect to any automatically.
496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin democratic? on: November 27, 2012, 02:21:41 AM
Huh

It is more like a dictatorship you can choose to participate in. The fundamentals of bitcoin, its unique properties, were dictated by one person (or group of persons) known as Satoshi Nakamoto.

Technology has no particular allegience to any one person or group of people, nor does it seek to rule over or subjugate them however, so ultimately the question is inappropriate.

A better question would be "What principles and values does bitcoin help to promote or enable?".

Given that its primary function is as a currency, it promotes the idea of a monetary system, which distorts life affirming and sustaining values and leads to negative outcomes.
497  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: X-ISO4217-A3 (revised draft) Published on: November 25, 2012, 08:59:14 AM
Looking forward to the official designation.
498  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 12, 2012, 08:20:53 AM
All systems of false authority are games, and poorly designed ones at that. Anything with artificial rules and boundaries should not be holding humanity back from reaching its highest potential.
499  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 07, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
Our sick consumer culture was strategically created with an assortment of psychological attacks upon the populace. We can use education and awareness to expose these manipulations and inform people that there is a better way to live together for the benefit of everyone.
500  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Help us crowdfund new Bitcoin plugins (Shopify, Virtuemart, and more) on: November 06, 2012, 02:06:05 PM
https://github.com/Azulan/Chromecoinomy

This is an idea I had. I haven't written one line of code yet, but I think it's an interesting idea and would be thrilled if someone, anyone, would implement it. I am not seeking donations.
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