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3621  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: In-car mining rig - bad idea right? on: January 24, 2014, 06:07:42 PM
Just plug it into the socket of your wall... If it generates any extra, then you should sell your car anyway, Highly inefficient.
3622  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Brutforcing a wallet on: January 24, 2014, 06:05:54 PM
Why would you even want to bruteforce a wallet anyway? Are you a nasty thief that has nothing else to steal?
3623  Economy / Services / Re: 1Mhs rig available for 24h+ rentals - accepting BTC/LTC/DOGE on: January 24, 2014, 04:49:03 PM
Your rate is much higher compared to others with better rating...
3624  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CoinURL sold to the new owner on: January 24, 2014, 04:47:59 PM
I think I will stick to adf.ly for now, since i have been hearing many complaints.
3625  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.5 BTC/month to Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! on: January 24, 2014, 04:45:57 PM
Payment received.
3626  Economy / Services / Re: [WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability on: January 24, 2014, 04:40:33 PM
Uhhhh... So now minimum payout is 0.01BTC?

It's 0.01 BTC for ongoing payouts that happen during the day (multiple times per day). There is no sense to lower this threshold and send 0.002 BTC every couple of hours to the same user.

I will add one daily payout for users with minimum 0.001 BTC balance, so there will be 0.01 BTC minimum for ongoing payouts during the day and 0.001 BTC minimum for once-a-day payout.

That's OK. It's because some users like me, have a crappy hashrate, and dont earn that much.
3627  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Daily] Peerbet.org 1000 Satoshi Giveaway! on: January 24, 2014, 07:47:37 AM
byt411
3628  Economy / Services / Re: [WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability on: January 24, 2014, 07:45:39 AM
A quick update: automated payouts are already running and all current balance has been paid out. There will be ongoing payouts couple of times per day from now on for all “ready to pay” balances of minimum 0.01 BTC.

Uhhhh... So now minimum payout is 0.01BTC?
3629  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.5 BTC/month to Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! on: January 23, 2014, 09:48:14 PM
So are payments due tomorrow?
3630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 48 hours and still unconfirmed? on: January 23, 2014, 09:33:37 PM
I suppose some pools accepts the transaction, and sends it backwards. Otherwise it would be stuck forever in limbo.

This is not hiw bitcoin works. A pool cannot "send it back". There is nowhere to send it to, and they don't have the private key.

The pool either confirms it, or they don't confirm it. There is no way for them to "accept it and send it back"

So then please explain how it was sent back? I honestly don't know lol.

To truly understand, you'd first need to understand that there are no actual "bitcoins" anywhere.  The concept of "a bitcoin" is just an abstraction that we humans use to make it easier to talk about the transfer of control over value.  Your wallet doesn't have any "bitcoins" in it.  There are no "bitcoins" stored on your computer.  Your wallet is just a set of private keys that are used to create digital signatures authorizing a transfer of control.

To show you how "may bitcoins" you have, your wallet converts each of the private keys that it knows about into bitcoin addresses.  Then it scans the entire history of every bitcoin transaction that has ever occurred.  This history is called "the blockchain" and every full node has a complete copy of it.  After scanning through this history, the wallet can determine how many transactions in that history have outputs that are associated with addresses that the wallet knows about, and which of those transaction outputs have not been spent yet.

Yes, I typed that correctly.  You don't spend bitcoins.  You spend transaction outputs.  Once there is a permanent record in the blockchain of a transaction spending the output of a previous transaction, that output can never be spent again.

So, the wallet adds up all the value attributed to these unspent outputs that are associated with addresses that the wallet knows about, and it displays this total as a number of "bitcoins" to you.

When you "send bitcoins", what you actually do is create a transaction that lists some of the unspent outputs that you control to be "spent", and then creates new unspent outputs and associates each new output with a bitcoin address to be a new unspent output.  Then you broadcast this transaction to the bitcoin network and wait for it to be added to the blockchain.

Once it is broadcast, most nodes know about it, so if any of the outputs are associated with addresses that a wallet knows about, the wallet temporarily updates the total that it displays while it waits for the transaction to be added to a block and added to the the blockchain by a miner.  At this point it is seen as having 0 confirmations.

If it never gets confirmed, and if none of the wallets re-broadcast it, eventually each of the nodes drop the transaction out of their memory pool.  When the transaction is no longer in the memory of a wallet, the wallet will no longer know about it so it will no longer include the adjustment in the value that it displays to you.  This means that if you are the "sender", then your wallet will once again include the outputs that you had tried to spend when it displays your value.  It also means that if you are the "receiver", then your wallet will no longer know about the new outputs that were supposed to be associated with your address, so it will stop including that new value in the total that it displays to you.

Since the value displayed by the "sender" wallet increases, and the value displayed by the "receiver" wallet decreases by the same amount, it looks like the transaction was "sent back".  Actually what happened is that the transaction just vanished and no longer exits.

Notice that there are no miners involved in this process at all.

Now, if a miner chooses to "accept" the transaction into a block that they are attempting to mine, and the miner successfully mines and broadcasts the block, then the block will be added to the blockchain and will become part of the permanent record.  In this case, both the "sender" and "receiver" wallets will see the new transaction in the blockchain and will adjust the amount that they display accordingly.  As such, it will "appear" that bitcoins have moved from the "sender" wallet to the "receiver" wallet.  All that really happened though was that a new transaction was added to the blockchain that "spent" previous outputs and created new outputs.

Thanks. I knew that there was no bitcoin "file", just that i didn't know that nodes would eventually "drop out" the transaction.
3631  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Q2- Mining These Days COST YOU More than it GIVES on: January 23, 2014, 09:26:24 PM
i mine with two 6900s, i am pretty sure paying 0.13c per kwh is barely allowing me to profit... BUT when its really cold outside and my heat pump will not work, my mining rig keeps my room at a habitable level.

My plans are to stop GPU mining when spring/summer comes around.

You might as well explain the hardware cost and your income, for the OP.
3632  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Q2- Mining These Days COST YOU More than it GIVES on: January 23, 2014, 07:55:21 PM
This question is being raised every once in a while.

More like all day, every day. Wink

I invested coins into asics thou. First asics came in August, calculations show me that i will not brake even. Ever. Then November came and price went to $1200, which made me a very good profits.
We don't know how the price will be going within 2014, but i have hopes that Bitcoin will be highly adopted worldwide and price will go higher and higher.

This doesn't quite ring true. If you invested coins into ASICS, and the calculations showed you that weren't going to break even, then the eventual price of Bitcoin does not matter. It absolutely, positively DOES NOT enter the equation. If you paid (I'm making this up) 10BTC for your ASICS and you get back 5BTC, then the price of BTC (in USD, EUR, CNY, GBP, Whatever) is completely irrelevant. You would have been better off holding the 10BTC.

If you got back more BTC than the number of BTC you put into the ASICs, then you made a legitimate profit. If you paid fiat and got back more in BTC at the eventual exchange rate, you made a legitimate profit. But your story doesn't read that way -- in fact, your story sounds downright dishonest.

Which, of course, is what I've come to expect from the bulk of the people in this forum. Dishonesty and outright lies seem to be the norm.



You should know something: It is possible to break even in USD, but very difficult in BTC.
3633  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION][ENDS:1.24|9PM EST] 375Kh Scrypt/WPA2/Vanity 7 day lease #3L13 on: January 23, 2014, 07:53:02 PM
.031

0.032BTC
3634  Economy / Services / Re: [WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability on: January 23, 2014, 07:08:59 PM
He has 2.8 MH/s

I think more like 2.3 MH/s based on 24-hour average. 2.8 MH/s was an 1-hour value and you need to remember that hashrate measured by any pool is only an estimate which is vulnerable to temporary luck/unluck in solving shares.

Of course, it can't be exact.
Terk, can you tell us why "ready for payout" balances are negative?
3635  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION][ENDS:1.24|9PM EST] 375Kh Scrypt/WPA2/Vanity 7 day lease #3L13 on: January 23, 2014, 07:07:26 PM
Yes, indeed. .029

Now shush.
0.03BTC
3636  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Block Errupter (Is it worth?) on: January 23, 2014, 06:59:59 PM
Wait... Are they Block Erupter Blades or Block Erupter USBs? If they are Block Erupter blades, I offer BTC0.02 per unit.

16 bucks for a blade?

Yup xD
3637  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION][ENDS:1.24|9PM EST] 375Kh Scrypt/WPA2/Vanity 7 day lease #3L13 on: January 23, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
.0265
Bid increment: .001BTC
3638  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION][ENDS:1.24|9PM EST] 375Kh Scrypt/WPA2/Vanity 7 day lease #3L13 on: January 23, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
BTC0.26

OK I just failed i meant BTC0.026
3639  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION][ENDS:1.24|9PM EST] 375Kh Scrypt/WPA2/Vanity 7 day lease #3L13 on: January 23, 2014, 06:45:34 PM
BTC0.26
3640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 48 hours and still unconfirmed? on: January 23, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
I suppose some pools accepts the transaction, and sends it backwards. Otherwise it would be stuck forever in limbo.

This is not hiw bitcoin works. A pool cannot "send it back". There is nowhere to send it to, and they don't have the private key.

The pool either confirms it, or they don't confirm it. There is no way for them to "accept it and send it back"

So then please explain how it was sent back? I honestly don't know lol.
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