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1221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: August 08, 2023, 05:06:50 AM
what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?
Governments of any country use their existing laws to bring anything under control when anything goes too far and leads to a breakdown of law and order. I don't think anyone should be arrested for gambling if he loses a large amount or becomes intoxicated as a result of that loss. Because when gambling is done this kind of tendency is seen in almost many gamblers and after some time that effect also ends. In this case it does not seem that anyone should be arrested or brought to justice unless he is committing some other deadly crime.
Exactly, a person should only be arrested or punished if gambling is prohibited in a country and they are caught gambling, not because they are gambling to earn money through it, that's their choice, as long as gambling is allowed within their country and as long as they are not doing anything that is harming someone else, they are not guilty of anything apart from spending a lot of their own money for which none of us are responsible or has to do anything.

If someone gets addicted to gambling for gambling excessively or trying to earn a living through it, it's the responsibility of those living around that person to take care of this addiction because it will ultimately be harmful to them if he gets out of hand, and if he gets out of hand and does a crime, that's when the authorities should get involved.
1222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympic Games, but doping is allowed?! on: August 08, 2023, 04:04:43 AM
Besides that, doctors must also be wary of those who can easily get these drugs on the free market. Maybe the people who tried the drugs discovered something that made them want to continue taking them. And it impacts one's health in the long term, especially if there is no further research on the effects of these drugs on one's health. But for athletes, it will affect their health too because they are the first to use these drugs so doctors and researchers must routinely check the health of athletes.
This will affect the entire world by making the drugs legal because of the this type of Olympic Games.By this the game made the drugs to free flow in the market.It may be different one,but this is hard to apply on the Olympic games.Most of the country think the Olympic as their life time achievement.So this type of the Olympic will spoil the name of the Olympic games.Drugs will be available for free world wide after this Olympic games.Then anyone can participate using the drugs in Olympic games.Because most probably this type of Olympic was against the drug controlling.
First of all, I don't believe that there will be actual Olympic Games and that taking drugs for players will be allowed openly and they will let the public know about it because of the love that the public has for the Olympic Games and the number of fans there are will all be heartbroken and might even stop watching them anymore, so the probability is that this is just a rumor and if not, it's not the Olympic Games but maybe some other game misusing the name.

And, even if there are some kinds of games that are allowing the usage of drugs for their players, the players that might break any record of those players that have made the records in official Olympic Games should not be considered and accepted because this is just like cheating to achieve something.
1223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 07, 2023, 05:49:00 PM
Joao Felix was not included in coach Diego Simeone's plans, so he was loaned to Chelsea last season. As the right move to release Joao Felix to another club to ease the salary burden and Atletico Madrid can look for other players needed to help the squad next season. Joao Felix was unable to compete with the other players in the team, so the club decided to loan him to Chelsea and even when he got there, his form was not much better, although many have accused the Chelsea coach of a lack of competence.

More precisely, Joao Felix must find another club for his future because if he doesn't get more playing hours it will affect the Portugal national team. Staying at Atletico Madrid also doesn't necessarily get a full chance to play or could be a loan could be a second option for him next season.
João Félix career is already ended at the Atlético Madrid which is good for him because if he wants to do something big he needs more playing time with this better environment which is not available here at Atlético Madrid, but good thing happen for this 23 years old Portugal star that three clubs are interested and having him under their radar which will give him good chance for the move from here even he is looking for the playing in Barcelona but who could be winner of this deal nothing is sure until now.
 
His price is very high but all these are capable of paying this with currently Al Hilal is already at the top with their lucrative offer and good salary Atlético Madrid is looking for the amount around €120 million and Al Hilal is already above this offer with €126 million now what will happen is not clear, but we will have all details in next few days about this.
1224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is Gamble gaining more fans than Bitcoin? on: August 07, 2023, 12:52:01 PM
Weird question. Gambling is an ancient reliable and simple business, just like baking bread. Even if there is a total adoption, gambling will still be more popular than bitcoin, and I'm talking not only about investing in bitcoin (there are always much fewer investors than ordinary users), but about all areas of application in general.
It indeed is a weird question and comparison. I don't understand why would someone compare the fan base of Bitcoin with the fan base of gambling because both of these are totally different things. Gambling is a business that has been around for centuries, there have been changes and upgrades, and updates in all aspects of gambling, but it has been there when there used to be no date, and Bitcoin, on the other hand, is an innovation that is only a decade old yet.

So it shouldn't really be surprising that gambling is gaining more fans than Bitcoin, also after knowing that gambling has a different kind of attraction for gamblers towards it that makes them addicted to it, and Bitcoin is not addictive, it is just a great and useful innovation of today's era.
1225  Economy / Gambling / Re: Loophole in stopping Money Laundering through Wagering on: August 07, 2023, 10:53:53 AM
I understand that going through the gambling process and then fulfilling the wagering requirements can be a headache in itself but then what are the other ways of whiting the black money without any stress? I guess the other ways are even more difficult because exchanges have a lot more strict KYC policies and they would not let you withdraw if they saw anything suspicious about your account.
You are right mate,  most money launderers like corrupt politicians and drug Barron's won't consider casinos as a good and reliable way to mix their money,  and as a matter of fact,  they are open to better options that,  since with casinos,  they risk losing part or all the money in trying to meet some of the compliance such as wagering which has been mentioned severally in this thread.

So for that,  we have to start categorically with that wagering requirement as an AML requirement I favour the casino more because in most cases those gamblers that try to meet that requirements end up spending extra money through they losing in trying to meet the wagering requirement and by that,  the casino gain more.

So a leader will rather pay a small fee to have his coins mixed using a Bitcoin mixer instead of the high risk of gambling in a casino which has a lot of conditions that could hardly be met.
Well, cases of money laundering nowadays have completely vanished from cryptocurrency casinos after they've announced KYC and AML rules and also added wagering requirements so that a user can't just make a deposit, play a few games and then withdraw the funds right after that. Now with wagering requirements, a gambler needs to meet a wagering requirement of at least 1x of the deposit which isn't easy to achieve knowing you might lose a big chunk of it.

Back in the days when cryptocurrency casinos were newly launched and when there wasn't any KYC verification or very high wagering requirements, money launderers used to use that opportunity and that is the reason why KYC and AML rules were then imposed on all cryptocurrency casinos operating under a license.
1226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino Slot Streamers on: August 07, 2023, 09:38:19 AM
To each their own I guess, but I do not really gamble at slots as at least to me it is a very boring game, as you barely do anything except placing your bet and pushing a lever or pushing a button, so I could not picture myself watching someone else streaming about it as that would be without a doubt even more boring regardless of how interesting they tried to make it to be.

Personally I prefer games like poker or blackjack in which you really need to think about your next movement instead of relying solely on your luck, as it is the case of slot machines.
Slots are the most interactive and engaging games in a casino, that is the reason why they are the most played casino games to ever exist, I don't know why you find slot machines boring when they are pretty fun to play and watch as well, especially if someone you are watching is playing with high bets and buying bonus spins, I really find that fun to watch when a streamer plays a slots game where buying feature is available and they do it with very high bets.

And I don't really see how one can think about their next move instead of relying on their luck when playing Blackjack when it's clearly dependent on your luck since you don't know what cards you are going to get and your total game is based on what you are going to get initially and later when you have to hit.
1227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 07, 2023, 08:08:45 AM
Mbappe will most probably join Real Madrid. Real Madrid don't want to rush anything because they don't need to. Mbappe has probably agreed with them already. But there is no need for Real Madrid to sign him by paying an enormous transfer fee instead of signing him for free by January.

Maybe he will be able to join the team by next summer but it is totally worth it. I don't believe any of those rumours such as he will go to the Premier League. I give no chance for him to accept a non-Champions League participant right now.
Most of the peoples are agreed about this all he will join Real Madrid in near future, but things are creating drama which is normal because we have drama like this in every transfer window currently we have two big transfers and both are stuck with Mbappé to Real Madrid and Harry Kane to Bayern Munich even mostly feeling both will happen as par required Real Madrid is trying to have enough funds for this and most chances they will be succeeded in this case which could be good for them and Mbappé but as Mbappé is doing he also wants to join Real Madrid as free agent for the better bonuses and other incentives which is surely not suitable for the PSG.

As I was reading there is another solution even this is not fair and good but if Real Madrid is not able to have finances for this deal then he can join any Saudi club for the 2 or 3 years deal and this could be also fair enough for him and his desired club as well.
1228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best way to DCA 1.000.000 $ into Bitcoin on: August 07, 2023, 07:19:23 AM
In reality, if I manage to win something that significant, I wouldn't invest all of it in Bitcoin, I will probably invest about $200k to $300k in Bitcoin and use the rest to set up a real-life business for myself so that I can keep getting money from it because Bitcoin might be profitable but it can't be compared with a profitable real-life business because that will always be earning you revenue regardless of the season or the time in the year, so that would be my first priority.

But, since it is a hypothetical question, I would say that the best way is probably to keep buying after every price interval, like if Bitcoin drops a thousand dollars, you should go ahead and buy some, once it drops a thousand more, buy some more, keep doing that until you exhaust your capital but make sure that you are always buying below your last buying price.
1229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 06, 2023, 06:29:42 PM
Napoli not worry with Victor Osimhen not extend contract because still left two years and have chance for selling him if not available in this summer transfer possibility next summer window transfer. But disappointed with Napoli not release yet Victor Osimhen to other teams who interested for signing him due release fees transfer above 200 million euro. Possibility or not with Victor Osimhen move or leaves Napoli depend on one month later before transfer window closing, actually Serie A will play in one week later and looks if not any serious bid offer for signing Osimhen he will stays until his contract over with Napoli.
Napoli President is not worrying about anything right now because he understands all even Arab clubs are trying to steal this transfer but most chances at the age of 24 Osimhen will not do anything wrong with his career and he will stay here in Europe for few more season because this is important for his career which is bright after having amazing start in last season with the win of title with Napoli.

But, as we all know human nature can take U-turn if this happens in this summer then surely this could be also good for the Napoli because they can sell him on their own price which could be not easy to compete but can fill their many desires because with this money they can buy good number of required players for the strength of their squad for the next season.
1230  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's safe to say - gambling is a guy thing. on: August 05, 2023, 02:51:46 PM
The most probable reason for that is the difference in the nature of both genders. Women tend to be more patient and fewer risk-takers when it comes to things involving finances, and when it comes to gambling, we all know that it is all about taking risks, you risk your own money to get some more with it, but the chances of losing the money are higher than winning something on top of it, and women don't like deals like that because they can't see their money going just like that.

That is probably the reason why women don't tend to gamble a lot, some of them that take the risk and gamble tend to have enough self-control that they don't get addicted, and once they lose a certain amount of money, they simply stop gambling after that and never return to it while men can't do that.
1231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 05, 2023, 09:09:42 AM
over 100 million euros. that's insane. Bayern München has never paid that much money for a star. i think that's a really big risk.
will Kane play as well as he did in England? will Kane stay healthy? and will Kane be as successful as Lewandowski?
Bayern are so adamant that they want Harry Kane and they are not reluctant to spend that much money to get him. Of course they have great hopes that the striker will play optimally and bring Bayern to the top in the UCL, especially if a deal is done later. However, I also think, for that age, even though he is a great player, is Bayern not exaggerating when they are actually Can you get another alternative that might be more suitable?

Hemm, of course Bayern have considered it, that's why they made this offer as the last bid and hoped for a result by giving Tottenham a deadline to accept or not. approved or not.
With latest updates are coming which are positive for the Bayern Munich and Harry Kane because new big which is almost biggest in Bayern Munich history already offered and Tottenham is also happy now €100M is good and now with this money they can bring few quality players which can do good for the club after departure of Harry Kane and this legendary striker is now also have good chance for winning trophies Bundesliga is already in for them as in last 11 years no challenge give them problem but with the arrival of Harry Kane Bayern Munich can go through for the Champions League as well because he is one of the best, and they are missing player like him in last two years which can give them good aggressive performance.

Even few are feeling this is big risk by Bayern Munich but most chances they will be ended good after going through with their this investment and performance of Harry Kane could also give good pleasure to Bavarians as well.
1232  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io| 💸Buy-Sell BFG on BetFury | 🔥Fury Pharaoh - New In-house Slot on: August 05, 2023, 06:26:24 AM
Always do proper decision upon holding since not every coin is good to hold since we also need to look up on how they perform for the past few months. If they are not showing any good result for long time then provably the investors or supporters are already done with it and the project is just waiting for new investors to come  since they are not gaining to much attraction to its old holders. I guess for long term holding better choose reputable alts since its so risky to choose low volume tokens or coins since most of them flop and its so rare to see some of them pump a thousand folds.
That is why this one is having a little bit of trouble as well. When you do not see it do well, you end up selling, when you sell the price doesn't go up, when it doesn't go up others see it not doing well, and later on they sell as well. This keeps going on for a long time and causes a little bit of a stagnant and dropping price to this token overall.

There needs to be people who trust it no matter what's going on to keep holding it until the bull market to keep it healthy as well. I am not selling, but I do understand people who do, I do not have most of my money here, I have just a little bit so if this token is zero one day, then I would still be doing fine and that is why I am capable of not selling, some people may not be like that.
1233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: August 04, 2023, 06:00:31 PM
I think it is time for ICC to actually let go of test cricket. Instead of spending time and resources on test cricket, I think they really should spend those things for the t20 format. In this day and age, everyone wants to see the winning team have more skill compared to luck.
I don't think the ICC will ever get rid of test cricket since the recent Ashes has proven that it still has a sizeable audience who are willing to watch them despite all of the problems associated with it.

T-20 format is definitely a lot more entertaining in comparison, but the test format is special in its own way.
Even we have too many issues related to climate change and seasonal rains in different countries which are hurting badly test format its future is bright and no one going to touch this as we all already have one of the best test series between two arch rivals in last two months, but we need to bring few changes for the improvement which can create more interest for the fans and also few countries which are facing problems can improve their quality which is also important for the game but right now ICC is doing nothing.

In future specially after ODI world cup 2031 we will have few changes with Test and Twenty/20 will stay for long time and ODI can go into trouble because now its fanbase is decreasing and ICC also needs to offload this format for the better future of the game.
1234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 04, 2023, 08:31:19 AM
They've made a good start, but they shouldn't be satisfied with the wins they've had in pre-season matches, because the real challenge hasn't started at all, and there's still time for them to evaluate their play in pre-season matches. More than a week is left now, and in that time it should be enough for them to fix anything that's missing from their overall game.
PSG will have a new striker to come very soon. Goncalo ramos will be strengthening the attacking line of PSG. The club has been facing some horrible results and i don't even think 1 week was enough to solve any problems in the club. PSG's performance is very worst compared with last season. The fact that if enrique was not able changing the club in a short time. Enrique has been facing same situation as chelsea but it seems like that enrique faces difficulty in adapting with the new players.
Right now, situation is looking not good here at PSG with all new players and new coach taking more time for the adjustment but as things are going hopefully they will be settled, and we will have better results from them in Ligue 1 even nothing sure about Champions League because it's never been easy for them to have better results but if they keep faith in this change and new coach Luis Enrique then most chances they will be improved side for the all competitions.

Currently, they are playing with their only available striker Neymar and hopefully before start of the season they will have Dembélé as well which is also good striker, and they can do better performance with him in coming season hopefully if Mbappé exit then PSG will sign another big striker for the strength of their squad.
1235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 04, 2023, 05:40:39 AM
Dortmund are a team that are very good at scouting big talents and helping them improve their skills by bringing them for a cheap price. Some time later we mostly see those players being signed by top teams and Dortmund make a lot of profit in those deals. Maybe Dortmund are even the best in the Bundesliga about this topic.

I don't believe they are prioritizing to become the champions in this league. Of course like everyone else they would also like to win the title. However it would be like their second biggest target. The first one is the thing I have already talked about which is the main vision of the team at the same time.

Would this vision change and they start to become more competitive? Maybe in the future but there is a need for a big change to do that starting with having a new owner.
I am not sure whether you closely followed the league last season, but do you know what was going on when they failed to win the title? I have barely seen a team and a club suffer more than that. Do you think they would have suffered so much if they didn't care about the title or if it was only second priority to them?

What is the vision of a team like Dortmund when it is not to win the Bundesliga title? This is their first target every single season. Otherwise why play the league in the first place? Last season it was tough because the chance was so big and they themselves were to blame to not win it. There is no change needed in their vision. They want to win all competitions they play. What would a new owner do differently? They are publicly listed by the way.
I am following Bundesliga for decades and I have feeling that Borussia Dortmund never been had any serious try for the title as their role model is just buying newly players and after having some good skills and experience sell them on high price because with these things are going good in finances, and they are having enough funds which are covering this all for them here in Bundesliga.
 
In last season, first time I was feeling they can go through for the title, and we will have Bayern Munich without any trophy but in last game they have done poor performance and settled again at the second spot which is surely heartbreaking for the fans and followers as well but this time things looking not good as well because they have tough competition for the top four spots, and they have been giving their best if they want to stay here again.
1236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season on: August 03, 2023, 08:53:04 PM
Kerem Demirbay's transfer to galatasaray istanbul is perfect. after the 30-yo bayer leverkusen midfielder passed his medical check on wednesday, he signed a contract with the turkish champions that runs until the summer of 2026. galatasaray will initially pay a transfer fee of just under €4 million
I have kept seeing this all the time, I am not sure how "great" he could be, but considering the midfield issue they had, this should help them a lot. Torreira is a great midfield, a great defensive one as well, he runs and plays well, but considering Olivera played last night and wasn't all that great, putting a player in there would be great.

I do not know who this Demirbay is I am sorry, but if he is better than Olivera then he should be very good transfer. Plus he is Turkish so it helps with their system as well, they need 3 good turkish players for the league, and they have some good bench ones we saw last night as well, which means that it is going to be a good situation for them overall, definitely helpful without a doubt.
1237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2023/24 | Qualifiers on: August 03, 2023, 08:14:01 PM
Interesting numbers shared above on squad value -- the lowest tier of UEFA club football and already beating the budgets of about half the top-tier teams in any Big Four leagues... pretty dire future for those running on budgets.

Anyway, massive number of games today -- 44 of them, I can't remember the last time we had this number of games in the space of a few hours in a single competition!

P.S. Deleted a few low-value posts -- PM me if you've an issue, happy to explain why if OP isn;t clear enough. Quote walls particularly suggest a lack of effort.
That is what happens when teams from nations with top heavy good teams end up not doing great on European competitions and they end up resulting with not getting into the group stages or higher. Turkish teams didn't do so well on coefficient points, so they resulted in conference league, they have literally no one at the europa, they have one team playing a lot of prelim games and the rest are all on conference league.

Of course they are worth a lot more than anyone else, but also even though they are, they never had good results, which resulted with them being in this situation. They should do a lot better this season with all teams there ending up with a great point returns for the nation if they want to go higher and have better competition.
1238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 03, 2023, 04:38:04 PM
Many people like you think Real Madrid is stronger than Barcelona and they can have more chance for the champions league because of the more money they invested there and the more and better player they bought this season like Jude Bellingham and they are even close to buying Mbappe while Barcelona is not in the good financial situation but I think this can price anything because, in the recent friendly match, Barcelona won the game and beat Real Madrid.
Right now predicting about any club is surely not easy because many changes are still occurring in clubs and few changes surely can change the momentum of any team as things going right now on papers Barcelona is still stronger but if we have Mbappé into Real Madrid then surely they could on their best for the another double with they already have few good players which can give them good start and better result in coming season Barcelona is also now doing good things for the keeping their momentum which is also important for them if they want to defend their title.

Recently we have few friendly matches which are under talk with their results, but these are surely just for the practice and keeping things in better way with real competition is now just few days away, and we can expect tough competition which will give better view about who is going to have better end of the next season but in next few days all will be clear how things will be settled.
1239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 03, 2023, 01:33:19 PM
Chelsea could add some new fresh legs like this and could actually make it work better. Overpaying for known names wasn't a good idea, the team didn't fit together that way and the results didn't come.

I have seen them have 3 players for the same position and buy a fourth one. That type of "lets get all the big names we can" idea was a terrible one. Now they are making transfers for not only the positions but also the ones that would fit the system as well, this should be something much better for them. I believe that it's going to be fine one way or another, but for the time being I am guessing that it's going to take a while for them to actually get any good as well. Lets hope that fans will have time to see them adjust a bit.
1240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 02, 2023, 08:25:29 PM
We still don't know how Rasmus Hojlund will perform. If he performs well, it is good for Manchester United. But Manchester United definitely needs an experienced striker.
Marcus Rashford is Manchester United's most experienced striker. And while Rashford is an excellent player, he is only 25 years old. He played very well in the last season. Rashford scored 17 three goals. However, if Manchester United's goal is the title, and if they want to maintain continuity in the Champions League, then they must add experienced players to the team. Otherwise, the team will not be able to survive in the competition.
Just on based of statics we can't give any certificate to any player even Manchester United history is full of blunders and having not quality players after spending huge funds, but now things are completely different they are fighting for the title race and have good squad with just need a quality striker which give them good replacement in any case hopefully Rasmus Hojlund will be done as par requirements because he has already done good in Atlanta as well.

But, now they need to have settled few more issues which are going to hurt them even most chances now with this aggressive approach they will be able to have better results in both Premier League and Champions League but still have some time to fix issues which can create problems in coming days as well.
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