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1241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Collective bets in local lotteries on: August 02, 2023, 04:41:01 PM
Well, if you feel that you can get a prize that can be divided into the group equally and all of you will get a good enough amount, you should go ahead and try it, but always make sure that you get together people that won't make any issues later on by saying they won't take this much and want more, or if nothing is won, they shouldn't come to you and start forcing you to return their money because you didn't win any amount in the prizes.

So if you finalize everything and also find the people willing to put their money in with you, make sure you create a contract and get their signatures and explain everything to them that the prize will be equally divided to everyone if won, and there won't be any refunds if the tickets don't win anything.
1242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling experience using loan money on: August 02, 2023, 03:15:55 PM
What triggers you to take out a loan? I mean, I'm just curious because even I only take out a loan if I don't have a choice and am in need of money for those important things, but you kind of just decided on that day to take out a loan. Or have you thought of it for a couple of days? Yes, part of it is that you can pay it off, but are you having second thoughts before taking a loan just for gambling?
lets try to take the positive side of what happened. we consider gambling as your lunch and at that moment you need money to eat but the salary money from your job has not been distributed and you are forced to borrow money from other people to buy lunch and return the loan after you receive your salary.
another example is when you want to go to a place of entertainment with friends to drink beer but you dont have money and are forced to borrow money and repay it after you receive your salary.

so its pretty easy, there no reason for someone to look for a loan just to gamble, because in life we need to have fun, even though we have to think about more important things, but entertaining ourselves is necessary as long as we are responsible and with a small amount without exceeding the predetermined limit.
There is no problem in taking loans when you know you have a job and you are expecting your salary which can be used to repay the loan with the interest added on it, but it is a problem if you don't even have a job and want to take a loan that too for gambling just thinking that you will repay the loan once you win something from gambling which is never guaranteed and you can lose the money you have borrowed and then you won't be able to repay the loan.

I've seen a lot of people doing this, they have taken loans to gamble with it hoping that they might get something significant out of it and then they will repay the loan but it always went the other way and they've lost the money they've borrowed and then got stuck with the loan having no way to repay it.
1243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Irresponsible behavior at the Las Vegas Casino on: August 02, 2023, 12:58:39 PM
Lol! That's hilarious. He embarassed himself like an idiot and he should have been reprimanded seriously, but he doesn't deserve to be arrested since he clearly wasn't in his right mind.

I doubt he did any of that intentionally since very few people crave negative popularity. This kind of stuff is pretty common in Vegas.
An unconscious person would not think he had humiliated himself in front of a crowd. Maybe they don't need to be caught but taken to a room or even returned to their family so that their family can take good care of them. Nobody wanted popularity from negative things so that person didn't intend to do it consciously. And if it is true that claims from his family that he is not sane, this should be a question from all of us, why was he allowed to go to the casino and gamble there?
His family never said that he is not sane, but her wife said that someone mixed something in his drink and that is the reason why lost his senses and started behaving like this, he was drugged and it was not only because he wasn't sober, and had some drinks which everyone does when they are in a casino or in a party or something, though I understand that people who get heavily drunk can do such things as well, this wasn't one of those things.

However, the positive part about all this is that he didn't hurt anyone or broke any property when he was out of his mind, otherwise, he could get in serious trouble for that. What he did was just him enjoying himself and making a joke out of himself all over the world for doing that in public.
1244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you stay updated on: August 02, 2023, 06:04:49 AM
I never said that OP shouldn't watch MMA, read about it, or become interested in the fights and individual fighters. That's normal and it's ok. My advice was not to bet on what you don't understand. I have heard people say I need one more bet for my accumulator, so let's just find something with small odds, for example. Relying on the odds provided by the bookies is a huge mistake.
I do agree with that and that happens a lot of times when people think that the team or the player that has lower odds will most probably win the match because bookies set odds based on the potential outcome and capabilities of teams and players involved in a match, but as you said, relying only on that is a very big mistake because the actual outcome can always be different and the odds can sometimes go totally against you and make you lose your bet.

I've seen teams having 8x odds against teams with only 2x winning the match and leaving everyone surprised because a person would never think that a team having no good results throughout a tournament or a series would defeat the favorite team of the league with a very big margin, so things like these happen every now and then.
1245  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you will never become rich on: August 02, 2023, 03:56:29 AM
And I want to ask you one thing, did you become rich after getting rid of your family and after you knew how to use money? I don't know what family relationship you're talking about, if it's between your siblings, your spouse, your parents, and your loved ones. I would object to your first reason. Because we work hard, finding ways to be financially free is also taking care of them, not just ourselves. Furthermore, without those people, I bet you wouldn't be where you are today, so it's not right to consider them a burden. It's a responsibility that everyone has to shoulder, you can't selfishly deny them. Many people can still become rich but still be with their loved ones, so I disagree with your reasoning.
I don't disagree with OP about responsibilities because it is true that responsibilities do make you slow down in progressing in your own life and career, especially if you are the sole breadwinner for the whole family, including your parents and siblings and your wife and children, and if you don't have any inheritance that can make you rich without having to struggle yourself, but I also agree about your point that we have to move along with these responsibilities.

There are a lot of people who are successful, rich, have a lot of wealth, and take care of everyone that lives with them, some even help their relatives if they have a big heart. So, responsibilities might slow you down, but they can never stop you as long as you are determined and have a lot of dedication.
1246  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of ?? ?? ?? on: August 01, 2023, 03:50:59 PM
Southampton definitely is one that we will be promoting and representing in the crypto world, it is definitely a good one. However, I keep trusting that there must be something big coming up, I mean they even changed their title and made the sponsor name ?? ?? and so forth.

It means that we are looking for another one and I am sorry if I missed it so far but I feel like there has been a situation that has to be considered a bit different. In any case, I think it is quite important to change some stuff. Because you can't just keep staying with Southampton and nothing else and expect to stay the same, it is not going to be that good and it is going to have some changes on the long run. That's at least what I hope to see.
1247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you been threaten to stop gambling on: August 01, 2023, 12:31:46 PM
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My friend invited me for a round of drinks just last night to confess something, and that is his wife threatened to leave their house and file for legal separation because the wife just discovered that he's spending a lot of time gambling, she thought that he's just playing games but she discovered his logged because the idiot has his password in the browser, so the wife check his withdrawal and voila his losing a lot of money and she also discovered that he won big money in the past but didn't tell her.

I guess that blew her patience for not telling his winning, so he threaten that he should stop gambling or they part ways, my friend choose his wife so he cannot play until he can convince his wife and promise her to tell her if he won big. Cheesy

To be honest, I totally understand this guy's wife. If my girlfriend(I don't have a gf right now) was secretly gambling and losing lots of money, I might also threaten her to stop gambling. Keeping such secrets while being in a relationship is kinda toxic. On the other hand, I might also keep my gambling habits a secret, if I was in such situation. Many people might freak out, if they find out that their significant other is a gambler.
Nobody would ever threaten me to stop gambling, because:
1.I don't tell anybody in my social circle that I gamble.
2.I would never spend big amounts and make my gambling loses into a serious problem.
I don't think that the threatening from the wife or girlfriend is because of the amount of money one has been spending on their gambling activities, but it is about the fact that they've been hiding it from them since the beginning, and when you are in a relationship, you ought to not hide anything with each other, and if you have been keeping a secret for such a long time, especially if you are married and she's not just your girlfriend, the threatening I would say is a lenient reaction to that.

If I, being a man, come to know that my wife has been doing something on my back for a very long time and never once told me anything about it, I'm pretty sure that my reaction will be way more than just threatening her to stop doing that because this is totally breaking your trust.
1248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: August 01, 2023, 10:46:49 AM
The slot algorithm works very differently. I must say that we could not get out of it while discussing it with friends;
After showing great promises and earnings to people who are deposited at certain times and who deposit less than the money earned by the site, it can be possible for them to increase their enthusiasm to win later and then deposit large amounts of money and take them to the brink of bankruptcy.
In such a situation, we can once again see the importance of stopping yourself, after you win good money from a slot game, you need to keep some of it for yourself and continue with the remaining money and then if you cannot multiply this money, you should not try your luck for a long time.
Otherwise, the site starts to eat your money with the hope that it will win every time you spin a slot.
You are right that it becomes really difficult to stop playing slots once you get into them because as you said, you tend to win at the beginning which makes you think that you will keep winning if you deposit more, but once you do that, you start losing more than you win and that is how the house takes all the money back and leave you with nothing. So, a wise gambler should simply stop when they see they've already won something on top of their deposit.

If you don't act right at the right time, you will definitely lose everything back to the house, so it's better to either withdraw some of your winnings when you already have them or just stop gambling right after you have hit a big multiplier and have your capital multiplied, that's the right time to stop gambling.
1249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 01, 2023, 09:44:10 AM
The squad that Barcelona has under the direction of Xavi has formed a strong chemistry between fellow players, I think Barcelona will soon become part of the favorite team to win the UCL if they are able to improve on the abilities that have been shown last season.
Xavi has demonstrated expertise and done a fantastic job for Barcelona, and he is currently working hard to enhance the team ahead of next season. His contributions to the squad cannot be overstated, especially given the team's current status as a worthy representative in the Champions League next season. If they will replicate their current form in the Champions League next season, they will be a serious contender for the title.
Yeah Xavi done a good job in first season, and he tries to fix their problems and just have target of winning La Liga now in this season all eyes on their next target which is surely Champions League and again La Liga mean double even it's never been easy because their record is never been ideal in Champions League but still they can do much better than achieve in last few seasons currently they have enough quality which can bring better results and in Champions League.

In last season, we have better chemistry from the all players and coach for the win, and surely they were at the top of the game now their few youngsters are doing impressive job and surely if they are able to keep momentum in coming preseason games then things could be as par their targeted.
1250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 01, 2023, 07:21:50 AM
My social media feeds were filled with footage of Onana getting angry and scolding Maguire when he made a mistake that left Onana struggling with Dortmund's 1-on-1 chance that was saved and led to a corner.
Maguire always makes the same mistakes when trusted as one of the players on the pitch and the funny thing is that something like this is still tolerated by Ten Hag.
I don’t even care about Goalkeepers arranging their defence but that reaction from Onana to Harry Maguire was over the top and the only reason he did that was because it is Maguire. I don’t think he can attack Varane like that or Rashford or Bruno Fernandes. I think Maguire is an easy target. Even his colleagues don’t regard him as much anymore. Wonder why the guy is still in Manchester United. He is suppose to force his way out because the abuse is becoming too much.
I agree still here we have some issues which are also important like he is having very good salary which is not available in any other club and many are love to have things like these even they are ruin by their own colleagues as well few days back I read on social media he was ready to leave Manchester United, but he wants his all salary as written in contract but management refuse to talk about this so now most chances if we have no transfer then surely he is going to stay mostly on bench and will definitely ruin his career as well.

We have another offer from West Ham for the Harry Maguire with most chances this will be also rejected because Manchester Untied management feels this is not as par their requirement with few more things are also involved, hopefully we will have something better in coming days for the all parties from here.
1251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: August 01, 2023, 05:44:40 AM
Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time.
 
I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.
Well, though I'm happy for the people that live around you and got success in gambling, I wouldn't recommend getting inspired by them and starting gambling more often than you usually do because what happens with one doesn't necessarily have to happen with another, so just because they got success in gambling, it doesn't mean that you can get success in it too because we all know that a vast majority of gamblers tend to lose more than they win.

So, one should never take gambling as a way for them to gain constant profits because it doesn't happen all the time and to everyone, there are only a specific amount of people that are so lucky that they might lose but never get in loss when they gamble and that becomes the reason why they become successful in it.
1252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: July 31, 2023, 01:16:39 PM
There are any senario like this and some gamblers even if they are too addicted if they found Thier true love or let say  girl friend then they will sacrifice Themselves and leave gambling forever than leaving his girl. And also even me if I am in the situation then I'll choose my girl and leave my gambling. Even though we can not deny the fact that once we got addicted we need to control ourselves in order to brt greediness and spontaneous decisions.
That is correct. Finding something that might interest us more can be a way for us to leave gambling forever. But it seems it's still not easy because we really have to be able to realize that what we are doing in gambling has crossed the line so that we can try to get out of gambling. And finding something more interesting can help us to get out of gambling. Maybe it's best before we get addicted to gambling, we should be able to control ourselves so we don't experience problems that might impact our lives.
No one knows that they are going to get in trouble until they get in it, similarly, someone wouldn't know that they are going to get addicted to gambling before the time they realize that they have actually become addicted to it, and even that doesn't happen with every addict because most of them will argue that they are not addicted to gambling but they just gamble normally, they would also not accept the fact that they are in a problem and need help.

So, only the ones who actually realize that they are addicted and are having problems in their lives because of it would consider finding something else that they can do so that they can get away from their gambling addiction, it will be difficult for sure, but if one really wants to do it, they can get success eventually.
1253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed can cause a lost bet, (true or false) on: July 31, 2023, 11:16:53 AM
Every business in the world is greedy for more profit, but what that greed drives them into doing will tell if their greed level have gone above the level its considered healthy and not bad, online casino are greedy for more and more profit, that is why they keep their services open 24 hours a day and 7 days a week and 365 days a year, they never shut their system down as long as everything is running well.
It is very important to know that being greedy does not make any changes to what we want to become or achieve in life, rather it will make them more far from our achievements, whereby at the end of the whole struggle we dont make profits because of our greedy nature, maybe by nature we can say everyone is being greedy for one thing or the other because we will all want to make money and have it continuously, some will also want this same offer and will not be willing to give it the demands it takes because they are greedy.
Wanting to have money and working to earn it can't be called greed, greed is when you have some and you want more of it and when you are ready to risk something to get more of it, that's what we call greed. When you don't have money and you want to have money and you want to keep getting it which can also imply wanting to have a steady income through a job or any means possible, and I don't really see any problem in that since you don't have negative thoughts at all.

When we get greedy, we are not positive, we know that we might lose what we already have or have things go wrong but we still decide to go with it just because we are greedy and we don't want to lose the opportunity of getting more, and that is not a good thing to have or do.
1254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino Slot Streamers on: July 31, 2023, 09:33:51 AM
Most of these streamers and content creators are actually paid by the casino platforms that they use during their streams, and they earn money from that too, and the main purpose behind their gambling on the streams is basically to promote those platforms and also to get referrals, so users who watch them if get inspired by them and start gambling, especially if they use the same platform, that is success for them because their promotional work will be effective.

Personally, I never specifically sit and watch the streams of these content creators playing slots on the stream, but I do sometimes watch some videos of content creators playing specific slot games, mostly Sweet Bonanza because I like that game, but I never get influenced by them to gamble more.
1255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Top 5 Things to Consider When Choosing an Online Casino on: July 31, 2023, 07:44:40 AM
I disagree that having a license makes a casino more capable.
A license is needed to operate a business, and it is an important document that every business person has for their business. The license issuing process can be hijacked and bought with money in some cases, that is why you should never just trust that a business has operational license. Licenses can be obtained with enough money. I like to read extensive reviews about casinos before deciding if a choice is good for me. Reading reviews is a way of knowing the opinion of people who have gambled there before you based on their experience. Real reviews, not fake ones.
The thing is, it has become very difficult to find honest and unbiased reviews these days, even the review websites tend to have fake and biased reviews which will only mislead you and you can't really know if a platform or a service is legit or a scam. Most of the review articles posted on different websites are mainly biased because the writers and publishers are paid to do that, so you can't even believe those written articles and make a decision based on them.

Similarly, you are right that a platform or a casino should have a license to operate their business without making their players doubt their integrity, but again, it is not really easy to verify if a casino actually has a license or just faking it, that's why it's better to simply use old and trusted platforms.
1256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Go Bankrupt Because of Player Wins? on: July 31, 2023, 05:15:03 AM
They obviously do have such tools to monitor everything happening, running a business is not a joke, you can't just let your business go bankrupt only because a player in your casino got a big win, they have everything planned so that it doesn't happen, and as you said, they would never have a reward as big as their bankroll or higher than it, even the highest jackpot one can hit in a casino is way lower than the total bankroll of the casino that they use to reward the players.

So a casino that is well-built, everything is planned and there is very good management, can never go bankrupt because of the fact that a player or multiple players won big rewards, it might happen if there is a breach in the system and some hackers or exploiters steal their money some way.

Yes ofcourse, but I won't deny the fact that there are casino sites who gives huge rewards/bonuses to their users or so as they portray.
But the reality is that after one point, they make a classic exit scam just to let the users know that all of it was a trap for them.
We have already seen hundreds of such cases where users have lost money by casino sites luring them with huge bonuses.
No matter how big rewards they give to their players, they always make sure that the rewards are according to their bankroll and they have algorithms to make sure that the games don't give out rewards as big as the bankroll itself, and the algorithms also make sure that the players don't be able to make bets so big that can win an amount bigger than the bankroll, that is the reason why most casinos have a limit for the max bet at certain games.

Also, they are monitoring everything 24/7, so whenever something goes wrong, they act quickly so that the platform don't face a lot of problems, whether it's a bug or a system error that is giving more money than a player should get for a certain win, so that the players don't abuse the system.
1257  Other / Archival / Re: How to manage bitcoin correctly? on: July 31, 2023, 04:25:23 AM
I can tell that you are not good at managing Bitcoins if you didn't sell them at the peak and are thinking to sell them now when the price is way too high and the halving is just around the corner. Maybe you don't know what halving is, it is the event when mining rewards are cut in half, which means that Bitcoin miners will get half of what they used to get before after the halving event, and as history shows, the market generally enters the bull market around that time.

So if you have been holding your Bitcoins for years and didn't sell at $69k, now is definitely not the time for you to sell them. Just keep them with you and wait for some more time, if we enter the bull run, you might see the price going above $69k this time around and then you can sell if you want.
1258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 30, 2023, 07:04:10 PM
Today's pre-season match
Last season's 3rd in  LaLiga champions Atletico Madrid continue their pre-season match against Pep Guardiola's team today, this being Atletico's third match since starting their pre-season tour and the previous two match end in defeat but Atletico completely dominated the match against Manchester City today. Pep Guardiola played his main squad include Erling Haaland, Julian Alvarez, Bernardo Silva, and others

Match enters 90+ minutes with score (1-2)


It is interesting that Atletico won, although the probability of this event was estimated by bookmakers as 16% (and I find this assessment fair). What surprised me was this odds on BTTS 1.76 - I thought that in this pair the favorite should be the outcome of BTTS No, since both teams are good in defense. It's probably worth considering that this is a friendly game, I can't believe that Atlético has suddenly become so good.
First half was completely dominated by Manchester City and odds were also favorable to them but in second half as we have changes match momentum change into Atlético Madrid favor, and they score two late goals which helps them for having good win in this match even no one were considering this result but surely a good end for the Spanish team which is looking for the better start of the next season after having third spot into last season.

In first half due to tight defense mostly Manchester City aggressive players unable to score anything and have score of 0 - 0, but second half after changes things give good opportunity to both teams, and they score goals but Depay contribution in both goals for the Atlético Madrid was enough for the win in this match.
1259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 30, 2023, 04:58:10 PM
Mane was not able adapting to the club. That's why he chooses to leave from bayern instead of staying even longer in the club. His career has been decreasing a lot in bayern. Klopp has warned him but he wanted a new challenge. Im very disappointed with mane's decision to leave from bayern but since it was also about his personality to the another player in the club and it may become the best choice for him. Mane was also trying to get its best performance again even though he will not be playing in the european league but it will be very entertain for him caused by there are so many great players played in saudi pro league as well. SPL becomes massive right now with so many great players have come. I hope he will able enjoy his life there. Mane one of best player in the history of football. Anyone knew how big his achievement with liverpool in the past. I hope many will have great journey played in the saudi pro league together with so many european players who came there. A saudi moves is the best choice for him now. He can try to play in european team later after he completes his journey in the saudi pro league.
Without any doubt Sadio Mané is one of the best in business but sadly after leaving Liverpool and having place here in Bayern Munich he never plays as expected with change of coach and his injury was also big troubles for him with his behaviour also creates problems with this all new coach Thomas Tuchel was also not happy, so Bayern Munich decide to offload him with there were rumors few clubs from Premier League wants to sign him, but there nothing happen for him, so now he is part of Saudi Professional League where he can do better and try to bring his career back at track for the big leagues in Europe.

Even too much talk about Saudi Professional League but with current signings and their way of having top quality players look like we will have something better for few players which can fight back for their places into European leagues even it's never been easy but now this all is part of the game because many top ranked players are also going for the huge salaries.
1260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 30, 2023, 02:53:15 PM
NBA sent a memo regarding the Damian trade request and they basically said it's open season and he can't just pick a team to go to. He wants only Miami but the NBA said that any team is free to send offers and that means it is going to be a bit weird going forward. After all a player has a right not to play anywhere they want but that doesn't mean that he can pick just a single team with an expectation to actually go there. If that were to happen then it means teams would have to pay insane amount of money to players and then send them wherever they want, which won't work.

So all in all, maybe there is a chance Dame goes somewhere else, he could still reject it if he wants to but usually teams trade whoever they want to wherever they want as we all know.
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