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5001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 05:07:37 PM
With 86.8% now and F2pool on board since a little while, only one big trolling by some big pool would avoid lock-in in a few hours.

P.S.: Segwit2x (intention) is now at 97.9%. With that majority I don't really care if they do a hard fork to 2MB. In fact I am in favor of it. JUst don't ever mention the aberration of BU next to me.
5002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 04:58:50 PM
Quoted for posterity. I really hope your are really, really wrong.

Well obviously I'm hoping I'm wrong too. My net worth increases significantly if Bitcoin goes to the moon.

But I'm skeptical. History has a way of repeating. Over and over again.

Yeah. but if we think history will repeat why not having another big bubble from september to december as in 2013? And then dump to 3 or 4 thousand?

Not that I am betting on it, but I think this Segwit on Bitcoin is way more important than it appears on first instance. Of course we will have dumps on the road but.. from which height? I dont know.
5003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 04:45:33 PM
Miners wanted to make it look as if Segwit may not get locked in this period as to accumulate some remaining cheap coins then come back last minute and save the day. This way they are able to obtain cheap coins as well as garner the trust of the community when we face further impasses such as the 2mb HF.

Well done.

So now you're applauding that bitcoin is completely centralized under a mining cartel who rigs the market for their own pump and dump profits?  Anyone who doesn't support changing the PoW after watching them do the exact same segwit BIP manipulation in LTC AND Bitcoin is a complete fool.  Without commodity hardware mining via something like a GPU, there is no reason for bitcoin to exist.

r0ach, if you are so confussed about centralised maniputated markets... what are you still doing in gold/silver one?

It doesn't seem coherent to me.
5004  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 04:43:55 PM
Just remember kids, never in Bitcoin's history has there been a double top where the second top went higher than the first.

Because if it went higher, it wouldn't be a double top?  Undecided Huh

So what, you think that after 5 weeks of constant down and this dip to 1830 was the "first selloff" of a much larger, protracted bull run? And that $100B is just sitting on the sidelines waiting for SegWit2X approval so they can come pouring in and run this thing up to $5000+ by EOY?

Really? That would be a nice dream. That's exactly what people thought in 2013 too, after the first crash and bounce back up to ~$980.

I don't really care... I'm hedged with a huge future stash, as well as a good amount of fiat to buy more at the very bottom, so I win either way it goes.

But I'll go on record right now saying that I think $2980 was this year's top. And that by Feb. 2018, I think we'll see around the ~$1600 mark.

Quoted for posterity. I really hope you are really, really wrong. I guess you too.
5005  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 04:13:39 PM
https://twitter.com/slushcz/status/888065263362424833

@slush_pool is responsible for ~4% global hashrate now signalling for BIP91. With some luck, BIP91 will lock-in even in this window.
5006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 04:10:00 PM
I don't expect the price to recover so quickly, but those are the breaks.

Not when the financial news section about bitcoin currently reads:

This grotesque bubble is blowing apart right now

Once R0ach started to up his troll game I knew I was probably going to be wrong. But ye gods, I still don't get it. Impending chain-split shouldn't equal moontrain according to any maths I ever heard of.

What chain split are you talking about?
5007  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 03:50:31 PM
So I see BIP passed. Interesting, miners kept screwing with it till the wire.

It's called a pump and dump scam.  They painted a cup and handle that shouldn't exist then screwed with BIP signaling turning it off and on (like bitfury) to try and rig the market then turn it back on and pump trying to attract greater fools to chase their pump.  The only reason to dabble in the bitcoin market at all is to try and extract money from it to turn into physical gold or silver.  It's a completely centralized pump and dump scam at this point.  Not supporting a PoW change is completely idiotic when the centralized mining cartel does stuff like this right in front of your eyes in BOTH LTC + BTC segwit activation.

You forgot the main point that is that now it is almost a sure thing Bitcoin will have Segwit, either tomorrow or sometime soon.

Don't underestimate the importance of putting an end to a fight that has already been there for a couple years.
5008  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 03:38:10 PM
Just remember kids, never in Bitcoin's history has there been a double top where the second top went higher than the first.

Ever.

Sure, this time things could be different.

"But this time things ARE different! We're getting SegWit! To da moon!!"

Sure, sure. Stay frosty. Wink

This time won't be different. If all goes well we could be near ATH before 1AUG, but we won't really break it until after a few days later when all fears have been cleared.
5009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 03:33:17 PM
Wait, it did not lock in yet, did it. Still time for masses of miners to stop signaling in a big dump fuck.

Hm.
According to this we will lock in?

https://coin.dance/blocks

If nothing changes yes. Not absolutely sure YET. Price is rising along the probability of lock-in.

If it breaks 2700 there will be tons of shorts liquidates for a good new wave.

Next few hours are CRITICAL! Smiley

Also, expect some profit taking along the road to ATH.
5010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 03:23:48 PM
Wait, it did not lock in yet, did it. Still time for masses of miners to stop signaling in a big dump fuck.

Hm.

Yes. They could do that... but anyways, even in that case, it will lock by sunday. Nothing to loose.

We already got over all this in Litecoin. No surprises here.
5011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 03:20:32 PM
Another round....

This is a good moment to check you didn't leave open limit orders on the road. I had a little one at 2249€ that got crossed. No big deal, but it was not my intention now.
5012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 03:14:04 PM
only 15 to 25 have made there  guess on when we brake another ATH             ATH  ATH   ATH   GAME   !!!!

and get paid by me for the one guesses most closly ( 0.25BTC ) as another ( 0.25 BTC) for giving the best explanation why the raise at that time

anybody more wants to take a guess feel free to take a date

( for the ones that don't trust me to pay still just waiting for a trusty member to react on this and be confirmt by 2 other trusted members and i deposit the amount with them ......)

ONLY GOOD INTENTIONS

 Wink Wink Wink Wink

I said 4 Agust 2017. Are you taking note of all bets? Take into account that anyone can edit their messages afterwards. Also, it shouldn't be allowed anyone to say a day that has already been taken by another participant.

P.S. And you haven't specified what exchange price will be used to declare a winner. Maybe Bitstamp?



Historically, Bitstamp tends to be the most common reference in this thread... even though on a few occasions, it came close to losing its bellweather status...  Embarrassed

Good now you quoted me, it is clear I bet at 4 July August and I can't edit it. Thanks!

Yep, I guess we could assume Bitstamp but it is micgoosens who should confirm that.


its first time i do this but i just think the one closest i contact him i just note all the pages starting from 17252 so have everybody ...
than just think the closest one to respont i ask him a BTC addres and just send the amount of my ledger to there is not dollars just 0.25 from when ATH broken send the same day to a ADRESS

and from now i look and can't be 2 same dates for the same day ...... till here not happen't ( guessing the guy with 27july seems to be runnin good to) and he also give an explaination for another 0.25 BTC remember just a little technical analyse for why youre choosen DATE is another 0.25 BTC

My analisys is what I already stated on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg20255921#msg20255921

But why exactly 4 August? Well, I think by that exact date all the fears about trouble around the fork/scaling issue will have been dissipated, so the ATH.
It may be one or two day sonner or later, but I had to chose one day, and that one is right in the middle.

So 4 Aug 2017

Also I think it is a possibility we have a bit of profit taking between now and 1 Aug when we are near the ATH. THe recovery will come a bit later... 4 Aug.

5013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 02:58:14 PM
only 15 to 25 have made there  guess on when we brake another ATH             ATH  ATH   ATH   GAME   !!!!

and get paid by me for the one guesses most closly ( 0.25BTC ) as another ( 0.25 BTC) for giving the best explanation why the raise at that time

anybody more wants to take a guess feel free to take a date

( for the ones that don't trust me to pay still just waiting for a trusty member to react on this and be confirmt by 2 other trusted members and i deposit the amount with them ......)

ONLY GOOD INTENTIONS

 Wink Wink Wink Wink

I said 4 Agust 2017. Are you taking note of all bets? Take into account that anyone can edit their messages afterwards. Also, it shouldn't be allowed anyone to say a day that has already been taken by another participant.

P.S. And you haven't specified what exchange price will be used to declare a winner. Maybe Bitstamp?



Historically, Bitstamp tends to be the most common reference in this thread... even though on a few occasions, it came close to losing its bellweather status...  Embarrassed

Good now you quoted me, it is clear I bet at 4 July August and I can't edit it. Thanks!

Yep, I guess we could assume Bitstamp but it is micgoosens who should confirm that.


That would be good if it was confirmed.

2nd August is listed for me right? Regarding the bonus technical analysis 0.25 put my reasons down as Bitcoin...

Quoted you to lock your bet.

Regarding my "analysis" it is here in a post I did right before today's pump:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg20255921#msg20255921

Just in case this turns into free BTC Smiley

5014  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 02:23:06 PM
only 15 to 25 have made there  guess on when we brake another ATH             ATH  ATH   ATH   GAME   !!!!

and get paid by me for the one guesses most closly ( 0.25BTC ) as another ( 0.25 BTC) for giving the best explanation why the raise at that time

anybody more wants to take a guess feel free to take a date

( for the ones that don't trust me to pay still just waiting for a trusty member to react on this and be confirmt by 2 other trusted members and i deposit the amount with them ......)

ONLY GOOD INTENTIONS

 Wink Wink Wink Wink

I said 4 Agust 2017. Are you taking note of all bets? Take into account that anyone can edit their messages afterwards. Also, it shouldn't be allowed anyone to say a day that has already been taken by another participant.

P.S. And you haven't specified what exchange price will be used to declare a winner. Maybe Bitstamp?



Historically, Bitstamp tends to be the most common reference in this thread... even though on a few occasions, it came close to losing its bellweather status...  Embarrassed

Good now you quoted me, it is clear I bet at 4 July August and I can't edit it. Thanks!

Yep, I guess we could assume Bitstamp but it is micgoosens who should confirm that.
5015  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
An extra early good morning Bitcoinland and an excellent one at that.

I was just about to say I missed the fun by an hour but as I started to type it started to rise again... currently $2590USD (Bitcoinaverage).

Nice to see the CAD price over 3 grand again... currently $3270.

I guess the segwit reality is sinking in and the beartrap if snapping closed.
____

My big regret is that I was only able to make a few small purchases while the price was ridiculously low... less than a whole coin total.

Meanwhile, I still have to wait until Monday for the bank to release my incoming fiat. I was hoping to be able to buy another 6-7 coins. Now it looks as if I'll have to settle for 4-5.

There's no reason for a check to take 2.5 weeks to clear in the 21st century, except to use my money to lend out at interest compounded daily.

Remind me why I hate banks.  Angry


YOu are probably more than 100 thousand dollars richer than you were yesterday... so who cares about 6 or 7 more coins? Wink

DOn't be greedy and just join the party and enjoy the mooning...
5016  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 01:52:50 PM
One minute of silence for the good guys we left behind at $1900- a couple of days ago.

Still listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP7kiw5Fk in a loop and watching the pump evolve.

THIS-IS-BIT-COIN! OUYEAH!
5017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 01:25:46 PM
only 15 to 25 have made there  guess on when we brake another ATH             ATH  ATH   ATH   GAME   !!!!

and get paid by me for the one guesses most closly ( 0.25BTC ) as another ( 0.25 BTC) for giving the best explanation why the raise at that time

anybody more wants to take a guess feel free to take a date

( for the ones that don't trust me to pay still just waiting for a trusty member to react on this and be confirmt by 2 other trusted members and i deposit the amount with them ......)

ONLY GOOD INTENTIONS

 Wink Wink Wink Wink

I said 4 Agust 2017. Are you taking note of all bets? Take into account that anyone can edit their messages afterwards. Also, it shouldn't be allowed anyone to say a day that has already been taken by another participant.

P.S. And you haven't specified what exchange price will be used to declare a winner. Maybe Bitstamp?

5018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 01:23:51 PM

P.S.: What do you say about BU? There will be no BU.

Isn't BU the stubborn ones like Ver etc who will fork themselves into obscurity no matter what?

Don't think so. It's just a bluff.
5019  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 12:54:42 PM
The pump's going to go extra crazy when all the alts get sold for Bitcoin in anticipation of getting free BU coins to dump

Maybe. But I think the biggest impact will be the second wave of shorts being liquidated from $2550 and up.

P.S.: What do you say about BU? There will be no BU.
5020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 12:46:35 PM
A few years ago you were lucky to witness $30-$50 in volatility. Now we're moving by the hundreds in hours and in the near future by the thousands.

What a time to be alive...




A few years ago we had pump and dumps in the hundreds in minutes/hours. And price was more than half where it is today.

Percentage wise, this is nothing in comparison.
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