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5341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 30, 2017, 01:35:36 AM
Washing the truck is always rather suspicious.

I don't trust anyone who washes vehicles. I let the dirt build up and then it usually comes off like a complete second skin when I have my next car crash. My latest was with a sheep. I won.

I would feel really bad if I crashed into a sheep. The sheep would feel worse though.

A wet sheep with soap on it should do wonders if you hit it a few times...

Wet soap is a bad store of value.

Yeah, that's shit is a bubble.

Yet you need bubbles to wash the truck.
5342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 11:59:01 PM
That's some nice wild road you have there. I don't like to take animals life but, well, shit happens. How expensive is your car insurance after all that incidents???

I don't bother claiming. My front end is 95% cable ties these days. I would motorcycle around but it's far too dangerous. If the animals don't get you, then the lakes of shit will.

A fella who worked on my father's farm was blatting along one day on his bike and saw a sheep on top of the hedge. He looked at it, it looked at him, then it jumped for freedom and landed on him and broke his leg.

Yep, what I said... shit happens.

It looks like we are on some sideways movement. Boring. I miss that adrenaline rush when I am either winning or losing money Smiley
5343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 11:37:44 PM
I would feel really bad if I crashed into a sheep. The sheep would feel worse though.

The little shit appeared out of a hedge right next to my bumper and gave me a fraction of a second's notice. I made sure it was dead. I've taken out far larger wildlife than that. That's the price of lurking in the country.

This qualifies as a freeway in my part of the world.



This year's tally so far is around ten pheasants, one deer, one sheep, two badgers and three rabbits. And I don't aim for them.

My least convenient was a deer in the depths of rural Utah at night. It stoved in the whole side of the car and smashed my side of the windscreen. I had to limp 120 miles to the nearest civilisation leaning right across to be able to see anything.

Two days later I nearly mangled the next hire car on a mule in Nevada. Thankfully that one gave me enough notice.

That's some nice wild road you have there. I don't like to take animals life but, well, shit happens. How expensive is your car insurance after all that incidents???
5344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 11:30:34 PM
Washing the truck is always rather suspicious.

I don't trust anyone who washes vehicles. I let the dirt build up and then it usually comes off like a complete second skin when I have my next car crash. My latest was with a sheep. I won.

I would feel really bad if I crashed into a sheep. The sheep would feel worse though.

A wet sheep with soap on it should do wonders if you hit it a few times...

Wet soap is a bad store of value.
5345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
Washing the truck is always rather suspicious.

I don't trust anyone who washes vehicles. I let the dirt build up and then it usually comes off like a complete second skin when I have my next car crash. My latest was with a sheep. I won.

I would feel really bad if I crashed into a sheep. The sheep would feel worse though.
5346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
Washing the truck is always rather suspicious.

I don't trust anyone who washes vehicles. I let the dirt build up and then it usually comes off like a complete second skin when I have my next car crash. My latest was with a sheep. I won.

car washes - what a waste of good water.

Dirty Bitcoiner's Lambos... what a waste.
5347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 02:11:28 PM
I wonder how can someone call this "storage of value" and then claim Bitcoin isn't at all:

http://www.macrotrends.net/1470/historical-silver-prices-100-year-chart
5348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 01:18:54 AM
No, i don't want doing this.
Because, Bitcoin is a network.
And network work on a mobile phone.

Not on a hardware wallet that it need an ... other device to accept/decline spend of funds.

A hardware wallet has nothing to do with either you running a full node or a SPV. It only has to do with where the private keys for spending your funds reside.

YOu can have your full node and connect your hardware wallet for signing transactions. That's the beauty of it. It doesn't matter how secure/insecure the pc/smartphone/whatever you connect your harware wallet is, your private keys can't be accesses from outside of the hardware wallet. And there is almost/no cons to that added security.
5349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 01:06:17 AM
i run many full nodes ... since 2014.

I stopped running a full node in early 2014.

You should try a hardware wallet. Trust me, it is probably one of the best developments we have had in the cryptocurrencies ecosystem. I am still amazed.
5350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 01:03:05 AM
I hope that Segwit+2MB gets enough support to finally end this absurd war. At this time it looks as the only non contentious alternative. I don't like the idea of non unanimous hard forks, nor UASF. Whatever is supported by an almost unanimous majority is ok to me at this time (Well, except BU/EC as I am totally against it).

Seemed like a decent compromise to me. Core programmers snubbing it was disappointing.

Yes, for some reasons core programmers seem to be against it. And it disappoints me because I want core to remain being CORE and not the miners controlling EVERYTHING (hashrate+development). I want to keep having some equilibrium of power miners on one side, developers on the other.

I was/am on core side, but this stubborness is getting too much to understand.

Eric Lombrozo, which was one of the most stubborn of them, seems to be somewhat open to the compromise though. Let's see what happens with the rest of them.
5351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 12:55:09 AM
Are you suggesting running a full core node on a smartphone?

Actual Local Blockchain = 132GB
Actual Available Storage on smartphone = 237GB
Actual CPU on smartphone = Quad Core Atom 2,5GHz 64 bits
Actual RAM on smartphone = 6GB
Actual smartphone ARE tablet = Boot on Win10 64bit Desktop edition (not mobile and not tablet depreciate edition) and so ... Ubuntu/Debian distribution



Response : Yes.



Proof : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwyFEfuTDew



You can run full node of bitcoin core on a "high end" phone (Apple price actually ...).
Probably take 2 weeks to recreate the cryptography of the Local Blockchain ... but, hey ... it's a netbook base after all.

I know you can. But it is one the craziest ideas I have ever heard. WHY? What would be the impact on cpu and data usage?

The phone would become almost unusable as a phone, but, anyways, I understand rjclarcke was looking for a more secure way of handling some of his Bitcoins, and that is using hardware wallets (Trezor or Ledger Nano S). Anything other than that doesn't add any safety to what he probably is currently using.

Again, do YOU have any hardware wallet?
5352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 12:29:18 AM
What do you guys think?

What crypto-currency have wallet on phone ?
A real one -with backup & restore & official support ... not a backdoor to a VIRTUAL wallet hosted on exchange.

You can not pay a person with ALTS.
You can not start a business with ALTS.

ALTS are good to trade and it's an hoover for FIAT money (good, because Bitcoin is the last step after trading ALTS).

Bitcoin is a vault for 100 years.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-nanosatellites-orbit-earth-2016/

So that's why I am so confussed the alts market hasn't start to bleed into Bitcoin. It's against all I would have predicted. Why hasn't hapenned yet?

I do think it will, because that's the logical outcome, but I am surprised it hasn't hapenned already.

100 years is too long term to even consider...

This is because of the btc block size drama. If that was fixed the resulting pump in btc
price and hype. Well, then it would happen. Lots of $$ sitting elsewhere because of that
Bitcoin devs of many flavors, that won't play together.

Yes, that does makes sense. If I am waiting for the right signal for the scaling issue to be solved before going all in, maybe many other people is waiting the same.

I hope that Segwit+2MB gets enough support to finally end this absurd war. At this time it looks as the only non contentious alternative. I don't like the idea of non unanimous hard forks, nor UASF. Whatever is supported by an almost unanimous majority is ok to me at this time (Well, except BU/EC as I am totally against it).
5353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 12:20:47 AM
What do you guys think?

What crypto-currency have wallet on phone ?
A real one -with backup & restore & official support ... not a backdoor to a VIRTUAL wallet hosted on exchange.

You can not pay a person with ALTS.
You can not start a business with ALTS.

ALTS are good to trade and it's an hoover for FIAT money (good, because Bitcoin is the last step after trading ALTS).

Bitcoin is a vault for 100 years.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-nanosatellites-orbit-earth-2016/

So that's why I am so confussed the alts market hasn't start to bleed into Bitcoin. It's against all I would have predicted. Why hasn't hapenned yet?

I do think it will, because that's the logical outcome, but I am surprised it hasn't hapenned already.

100 years is too long term to even consider...
5354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 12:13:10 AM
Thinking of getting a Trezor. What are the pros and cons with them?

new smartphone comes with 256GB of storage ... enough to store a complet Bitcoin Core Local Blockchain.
(Xiaomi Mix)

Trezo is "hell" to complicate (need plugin and average browser of specific SPV wallet).

Are you really comparing storing the private keys on an AndroidOS vs a specific external hardware device like Trezor? Are you suggesting running a full core node on a smartphone?

Are you fucking serious?

Do you even have ANY hardware wallet?
5355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 12:09:05 AM
I really don't understand anything. Many alts have gone 10, 20, 50, or even 75x in the past months while Bitcoin has done "only" a 2x and when we have a correction it gets linear to all cryptocurrencies. I expected the altcoin bubble to pop and start blowing into bitcoin but I am not seeing that yet.

I don't know if I was wrong or if that has yet to come.

What do you guys think?

I have been holding (my non-trading little stash) since 2013 so I will keep doing it no matter what but I am a bit confussed at this time.
5356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 28, 2017, 08:30:09 PM
I'm with ya on this one. I frequently vehemently disagree with the sentiments you post. But this has always been a freewheeling thread. With the caveat that I don't know the content of the specific deleted posts, I'm inclined to think moderation has been irrationally exuberant here.

They changed their policy toward this thread. It's meant to be strictly btc price speculation only. Of course, 80% of the posts arguably aren't, so you end up with the dumb "off-topic" rule being applied arbitrarily.

I got two posts deleted today, one advising another member about gif size limits and another where I posted the "hell yeah mutherfucker" meme when we broke the resistance point of 800 (killjoys lol).

I got deleted a picture with the meme of "That moment when you realize... you could have invested much more". I guess that was several hundred dollars ago... and it was strictly on topic but.... Maybe it's pictures that are offtopic?

ANyway, nothing that is going to ruin my day more than bitcoin actual price.
5357  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the Kristoffer Koch story true? on: May 28, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
I just read this story few years ago. That time Kristoffer was a student and made Bitcoin cryptocurrency as a topic of his report. He also bought 27usd worth of 5000 Bitcoin from Kraken.. and the rest is history.

5000BTC for $27 on *Kraken*? I don't think so.
5358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 27, 2017, 11:30:28 PM
No, I'm the only honest person on the entire forum that doesn't make up lies claiming bitcoin is a more sound form of money than gold and silver.

Bitcoin is a more sound form of money. Can you use your mobile app to pay in gold for goods and services? Are you delusional?

I wonder how many confirmations would the local starbucks need before accepting a gold nugget as authentic and serve me my coffee... And I don't think a blocksize increase nor second layer are on the works for gold market.

Feels like I'm talking to a bunch of millenial transgender children.  First of all, only cuckolds go to Starbucks.  Secondly, bitcoin is:

1) a currency, not money
2) does not remove counter party risk
3) is not a store of value

Just because you want to live a barbie fashion millenial lifestyle doesn't mean the laws of physics share your delusion about what constitutes a fungible commodity currency that actually removes counter party risk and can't be counterfeited.  The governance of bitcoin is simply mob rule.  Even if you totally ignore the fact that it's value prospect is supposed to be based on decentralization while not being decentralized at all, with no nash equilirbium - invalidating it's entire purpose in the first place - the mob rule crowd can even come together to increase the coin limit at random if they so choose.  

It's likely the 21 million count even has to be removed to combat adversarial mining strategy at zero block reward:

https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2016/10/21/bitcoin-is-unstable-without-the-block-reward/

So please, stop being complete idiots and pretending bitcoin is in some way superior to gold and silver.  The noble metals are the only viable candidate for sound money on this entire planet at the moment if you do not want to live under central bankers - which are the one of the main tenets of (((communism))).

Bitcoins has more "money" qualities than gold has, but this is a recurrent absurdity, so lets just leave it there.

You say gold can't be counterfeited? That totally false. Not only does require an expert but I think it would be possible to even fool such expert. I mean... What sort of tests have you carried on your gold bars to be totally sure that they are pure gold up to the core? Do you systematically melt them or cut them randomly to check for alterations? Maybe do you use some specific ultrasound equipment to check for anomalous "reflections"?

Even if you do... how do you expect the average store clerck do that authentication?

When was the last time you went to any place and paid anything using gold as "money"? What was it? How straightforard was the process?

You are really making no sense here.

The only thing I can agree is that gold has been historically a reasonably good store of value and still somewhat is. All the rest is bullshit you are just making up.

5359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 27, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
No, I'm the only honest person on the entire forum that doesn't make up lies claiming bitcoin is a more sound form of money than gold and silver.

Bitcoin is a more sound form of money. Can you use your mobile app to pay in gold for goods and services? Are you delusional?

I wonder how many confirmations would the local starbucks need before accepting a gold nugget as authentic and serve me my coffee... And I don't think a blocksize increase nor second layer are on the works for gold market.
5360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 27, 2017, 12:50:28 AM
Lubing up for a drop below $2000 over the weekend. I has a sad about Bitcorn lately Sad

i really never see the logics of this forum...

1. yesterday i posted exactly 20 minutes before the dump, that it felt like the dump was gonna happen in matter of mins / hours.
2. i even asked for other peoples opinions about it
3. majority wanted to hung me for not following the "to the moon" thing
4. Dump happened (and the "denial" phase kicked in for most fanbois here)
 Lips sealed

Now:

second bottom hit, pretty near same levels, all signals indicate that most likely some rebound incoming with some price consolidation time... during the weekend. This looks like the most plausible scenario to me, by looking at charts.

Of course, everything can happen, it can go lower. But in the short term, and by that i mean -> "this weekend" and probably longer, i see it stable and breaking upwards.

So, if you are a noob and you are reading these, beware of all these "bitcoin going to 500$" and "these weekend will drop below 2000$". They arent the oracle, nor am i. demand for opinions with TA analysis behind also, not for crazy theories about asia demographics or for statements like "ive been here since 2010 and its always the same, it WILL go to 1600$ tomorrow so sell sell sell

jesus motherfuking crist, this place is like a southpark episode





Bitcoin is done. I don't even know why you keep losing time doing predictions. Soon everyone that has Bitcoin will even have to pay for holding... or worse!
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