Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "'Happy to help any team on a part time basis if it will keep the WO going in a fashion as close to its original anarchic form as possible'"

Erkallys - "I candidate if this is needed. At least I have no hatred toward me as well as any fanboy." - "I would not be too strict on moderation, and I am available all day long."

BlindMayorBitcorn - [No stated "style of moderation" AFAIK. Please update]

infofront - "I'm not a prolific poster, or well known personality, but I'd volunteer to help moderate. I started the "unmoderated" wall observer thread because I believe in the laissez-faire nature of Adam's thread. "



Added BlindMayorBitcorn and infofront. Remember anyone can add themselves and also update the info.

Now that we are starting to get a good amount of candidates stepping forward, some clarifications:

1) Theymos hasn't clearly stated if he wants one single owner/moderator, an owner responsible for a team moderators or a team of moderators.

2) He has only requested that "someone" composes a list of CANDIDATES, but again it is not clear if he wants a preliminary list of candidates or if he wants the WO community to already give him a list of consensuated candidates.

3) So at this point we are just doing a preliminary list of anyone who would be willing to be owner/moderator once the thread gets unlocked.

4) It seems that Theymos wants to give us a saying on how the thread will be run. He just don't want it to be a PITA for him or for official bitcointalk moderators. This is very reasonable.

5) It also seems that in both voting options that could finally win, there will be a policy change that would result in BTCTK moderators to completely ignore any reports based on "Offtopic" leaving that decision to WO local moderators. The report button will also inform of that. Ie: No reporting on the basis of "offtopic".

6) If I am not wrong, most or even all of candidates atm seem to share the idea of moderating lightly, trying to maintain WO more or less as it was. If any candidate thinks otherwise I would request that they please state so. That way everybody knows what to expect and if there is a community voting/election people could exercise an informed choice.

7) I requested that candidates add his name to the list themselves. As noone seems to be doing it I will try to keep the list updated, but only once per day. Atm only addition is BlindMayorBitcorn, if there is more please state it in this thread. Also it would be advisable that candidates edit their entry expressing what their moderation style will be.

8 Personally, I would like to have an additional multiple-choice poll so that people can really support/veto the candidates. But I suppose it is up to Theymos to say if he will allow us to do that.

9) Another personal opinion I have is that a "comitte" would probably be too much hassle and probably inoperative. An structure with one listed owner responsible for the thread and a team of moderators to support him in his duty would probably be the most efficient. BUt, again, it is up to Theymos to decide that.

10) I think the best is that we debate what we want to do, and then just ask Theymos if it is ok for him. I don't think he is the very least interested on the drama, just solutions.

P.S.: Also, some organization is great but let's just take into account that we are not electing the next Pope

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "'Happy to help any team on a part time basis if it will keep the WO going in a fashion as close to its original anarchic form as possible'"

Erkallys - "I candidate if this is needed. At least I have no hatred toward me as well as any fanboy."


P.S.: Missed a candidate (Erkallys) that already expressed his willingness to help. Added him to the list. But please, candidates add yourselves, thanks

Now I would like to also see in the list marcus_agustus, Bitcoinnewmagazine, infofront, etc... but it is up to them to express their willingness to help by putting their names on the list.

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but it's anarchy was its character" - "I am prepared to be part of a mod team - but can't commit to more.  I will offer to help, but if Theymos wants a candidate to lead this, I don't think I am suitable."

Yep. That's why I am asking you to put your name on the list if you are willing to help in any way. You can clearly state in the list any restriction on your willingness to help. Let's get this rolling.

Put your name on the list. Is not that hard, just go quote the message with the list of candidates and add:

kurious - "The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but it's anarchy was its character"

... Or whatever you think would define your "moderation style".

I am not going to actively run the list, just wanted to have the ball started.

Confirmed.

At this point I guess it is just a list of CANDIDATES.

Even YOU could put your name on the list if you wish to enjoy the lulz of being one of the least voted for the "position" (assuming there is a voting or some sort of community feedback requested about the self-appointed candidates).

It's just a preliminary list, as requested by Theymos.

First step is to know who would be WILLING to help. Everyone can propose any names... but the candidates need to take a step forward and explicitly express their willingness... And it will be way easier if they just put their name in the list.

Guys, theymos has explicitly asked for a list of candidates so... can you guys please add your name to the list?

He has not yet stated how the election would be nor if there will be one or many listed owners/mods, but I guess more than one individual would be needed and that we will have some say (maybe even another poll?) on the election.

So anyone willing to help please quote and add your name to the list and, if you want, a description of your moderation style or whatever you feel appropiate. Also feel free to change/modify your own entry (no need to be a single line/paragraph, be as verbose as you want), this is just an example:

lightfoot - "I would go with a largely hands-off option, no directly blasting other people, no posting marketing crap, simple stuff"

yefi - "I'll throw my hat into the ring if there's a shortage though"

arklan - "if mods are needed, i have the time to do it"

kurious - "The only point of continuing the old WO is to not change is too much.  It was a pain at times, but it's anarchy was its character" - "I am prepared to be part of a mod team - but can't commit to more.  I will offer to help, but if Theymos wants a candidate to lead this, I don't think I am suitable."

An old school DefCon'er that promises a light touch moderation? Great, got my vote!

At least it looks like we are still going sideways inside the triangle. Still one month to the big Bitcoin event I don't think this sideways is a bad sign but a logical one.

I voted for options 3 and 2 (although I would clearly prefer 3) but, afterwards, Theymos said something in the line that if we chose option 1 it would be up to the moderator to do (or don't) do its job and that Bitcointalk moderators would not moderate anything on the thread on the basis of offtopic. And that the report button will clearly indicate that (ie: it will only be considered offtopic if the appointed local moderator chose to).

That would make option 1 also acceptable IF the appointed moderator is someone that will only intervene in clear disruptions of the thread, heavy spam and blatant offenses to other members. Maybe that's why people is chosing option 1.

I would also choose that option if I knew, in advance, who the moderator will be and what his "moderating style" would be.

Personally I liked the "moderation" style (or lack thereof) of Adam and anyone who shares it has my support.

Yup, he was the perfect "moderator" for a thread like WO. Maybe some people saw that as a flaw, but for most of us it was its main "feature". There are plenty of other threads for strict on-topic specific subjects.

I want a thread where everyone can talk freely about what they consider is directly, indirectly or even loosely related to Bitcoin price speculation... without having to care if discussion touch other subjects that may or may not be of the interest of all the rest participants. As soon as the messages are not clearly offensive, repeatedly spammy, or completely disruptive I guess everything is ok and any participant know how to scroll down or use the ignore button.

Also, I have to recognise that I like to have a single moderately high traffic thread to watch during my long trading sessions without having to care of going all over the forum looking for interesting threads (which, let me tell you, there aren't that many).

I liked WO the way it was.

It seems that this is the longest "postable" Wall Observer thread atm... Maybe "We" should move here until the WO Drama gets solved

P.S.: Not any relevant wall to observe at this moment though.

Yes, price has already crashed since lockdown. We are all gonna die or end up paying with silver forks for food (For its utility not the silver content... noone cares about that nowadays).

I have just checked Byteball price ($929) and I am lol'ing. Very glad I decided to hold 100%. So much for "free" coins.

At this rate of growth it will be 1:1 with Bitcoin in two or three additional rounds.

That guy is psycopath.

Kraken margin pool is dry again.

Some of the choices offered by Theymos could be somewhat similar to that you are saying. The option of using one of the existing forks is atm one of the less voted choices. For a reason.

And yes, maybe Meuh's thread will be a good one for STRICT ON TOPIC WALL OBSERVING... but that's not substitute for WO. That's something we need a solution for.

P.S.: Post deletions justified publicly is a no-no. That's completely disruptive of the thread, a lot of hassle, and ... well many reasons. The point is that deletion should only be done in such blatant cases that it would already be self-explanatory.