When there is no anonymity there is regulation. When there is regulation it defeats the purpose of crypto.

Suppose instead that if you steal 2 BTC from me, that I can report the theft and get those coins black-listed, meaning they cannot be converted into pounds sterling (my jurisdiction): then those coins become worth a bit less. Even more so if Britain shares its blacklist with Europe and America. We can imagine a world in which most miners are required to refuse to accept transactions involving blacklisted coins, and where the "dark" miners that accept them also charge higher transaction fees.

That is the kind of evolution of Bitcoin that some governments seem to think is desirable for purposes of preventing money laundering. That is, to make it harder for wrong-doers to profit from their crimes. They may legislate to that end, and require miners and exchanges within their jurisdiction to conform. It would mean bitcoin would be less fungible.

What happened to that zerocoin or whatever it was that they were meant to be developing on top of the blockchain or something?

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We need to get coindesk to do an article on gridcoin. Anyone know how to do this?

Also, are we ready for this? I'm all for helping this coin get all the attention it deserves, but if the software isn't ready yet, we should be patient.

how many GRC/day do you think i'd be getting with 1.2Mh?

Guys you are all in the dark! Tipscoin already has the mixer/enrypted transactions that darkcoin is supposedly working on! Stop speculating on the last horse to leave the starting line! lol  It was released yesterday... fully integrated wallet mixer. Tipscoin (aka fedoracoin) version 0.6  check it out at  http://fedoraco.in/, cheers!

Yea it does cost 2%, but if you operate your own mixing then its free. It is better than anti multipool... you actually want the multipools because they bring a lot of hashrate, what you dont want is them to leave, because it slows down the rest of block finding after until the difficulty readjusts..

  last week Tipscoin implemented the gravity pool algorythm

 so now, there is barely any effect when multipools leave... tips is actually mined more than doge now by multipools, its the most profitable coin last time i checked thats why they are on it.... makes sense to be most profitable, no?

As for asic resistant, who cares? its irrelevant who mines as long as someone does and it doesnt get more than 50% of the network hashrate. In fact when asics are pointed towards a coin it increases it value because it means its valuable enough to point asics at it. look at bitcoin....  Look at bitcoin first, look at tipscoin mixer, first... imo

Has anyone had any successful trades and withdrawals at this exchange yet...?

They'll figure it out sooner or later, for now let's leave the difficulty where it is.

Darkcoin currently makes no sense.

the 2 main things that set it apart from other coins are not yet implemented:

Encrypted transaction network: Work In Progress
Anonymous blockchain using coinjoin technology: Pre-Alpha


Zerocoin will be released soon and it has all of these things taken care of .
and apparently can make any coin transaction anonymous through an integrated layer

There is no different from cash as far as the anon respect, however you don't have to convince me. You will need to convince them.
Besides transfering very large chunks of cash presents problems. Transfering large amounts of dark currency does not have these problems.

I am NOT on the side of anyone except myself. I legitimately worry dark anon currency is a big threat to crypto at this stage. You don't see it that way but i think you under estimate how quickly they can crush the flourishing interest in crypto.

I agree someone will always want to create anon currency, but it must be a minority not become the norm if you want crypto accepted mainstream. This is just a fact not my opinion.

Do you honestly believe anon currency will meet with any gov approval?? please you have to be realistic.

I know it is hard to create a coin that stand out from being copy and paste and this is dark coins way of trying to stand out.

However people need to understand that although it is a cool feature and for most they would not abuse, but it has a big downside which far outweighs the upside.

Sure if darkcoin does not do it others will so they may as well go first...... i hope others see that it is not really essential and provides no upside for the average user.

When anoncoin came out i was onside thinking too what a cool feature, after watching the hearings i see now that feature is not worth the risk to crypto.

Cryptohunter, if this become possible - what's the difference to cash money? This movement is much bigger than bitcoin, it's an evolution of technology and a loophole in our current dying era that has been corrupted and controlled by our 'real'(FRB) economies for centuries.
You just sound like an old aunty when you try to prevent this movement from it's natural development. What's happening is not in the control of anyone, its inevitable.

the implications seem dangerous/risky and already essentially pre-banned .... what positive implications do you see for the average user of having a dark currency?

Just one useful purpose for having it non traceable for the average person?

If the US gov come out swinging at crypto.... crypto gets crushed back to being a very fringe interest. Think BTC back at $1-$20 range or less.

In the hearing over and over it was said.......... we will NEVER permit anon currency. That was crystal clear. I see more and more of this anon fascination, which really for most of us is not actually essential. Why even jeopardise a good thing we have going here. I am totally shocked the US has been as open about it as they have. I though a big slap down was coming on the first hearing. So did a lot of others but then when it was positive 100>>>>1000 in days. 

Let's not rock the boat, .... those that need to have anon currency even at the cost of losing out on early adoption to crypto need to be separated as far from mainstream crypto as possible.

BTC is moving towards full transparency ... alts need to stay as they but certainly not all start implementing dark measures or else you will see ALTS or even crypto get the axe in short order.

If you think the gov is risking anything at all by slapping BTC and alts into oblivion you are wrong. They risk nothing, most people don't even understand what btc is or are not interested.

I hope people wake up to this very fast before alts and maybe even btc meets a swift end.

If there was any real need for dark currency then i can see the point in risking it, but since for 99.9999% of people just mining a few coins to get some beer money or a new car or even a deposit on a home.....there is no point risking it for no gain.

Anyway i leave it there, i don't support dark currency at this point since i see not reason to have it and the US gov have made things clear, remain transparent and traceable or else you're going down. I would rather not pull the dragons tail.

Spikes like these are nothing to be noted. Come back in 3 months and see where price is.

sounds another vertcoin chart..... up up up .......weeeeeee......................................

Where are the vertcoin pumpers that showed up after the first nudge up?

The US seems to be the only pro crypto gov, the others are not issuing outright bans because they believe they could lose out against the US.

The US do not like the sound of dark currency. You piss them off, they ban. The others ban next.... end of crypto.

Pushing anon currency is not a wise move, unless you need to remain anon. If you just want to see crypto advance and make some money along the way....forget pushing too hard in that direction.

I'm not one for all this gov spying on us in everything we do for no reason, but encrypted dark currency?? ....this will not be permitted you can be sure. Dark coin and others now coming with coin mixing etc are good ideas but really if they get too big you can be sure they will damage crypto. They will get taken down and if it seems difficult to weed them out from BTC and the others ...expect a blanket ban.
If you watched those hearings....again and again......we will not accept anon currency their message was crystal clear.

For all those saying what can they do about it.....they could smash crypto like a fly right now. The currency is decentralised but every mechanism it relies upon to make it useful in anyway are not.

Take this forum out and banks complete ban on anything crypto related = the end.


Darkcoin is another pump over nothing any coin can work on achieving the same thing, bitcoin/ltc is they wished. It could go up another couple of days before the big smack down like i said would happen with vert.