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1641  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / On the difference between an optimization and an attack on: March 25, 2018, 06:48:33 PM
As others have already explained, Segwit prevents the covert form of ASICBOOST (and I have always been careful to make that distinction when discussing ASICBOOST on this forum).

ASICBOOST is not evil per se.  If everybody has it and uses it openly, then it is simply an optimization.  But if one party has a patent on it and stealthily uses the covert form (prevented by Segwit), then that party has an unfair advantage—leading to worse miner centralization.  That constitutes an attack on the Bitcoin network.

I like the sound of an open, defensively-licensed overt ASICBOOST being sold by a major new competitor to Bitmain.  This could solve some serious problems with centralization not only of mining, but of sources of mining hardware.  I hope it will ultimately lead to greater hardware availability, which is necessary to decentralize the global hashrate.  Altogether, it is also an excellent reason to stick with SHA-256 for Bitcoin’s PoW algorithm!

Times are about to get more interesting...



Thanks @BtcDrak for doing this.  If you want to understand who is behind this new Halong Mining, peruse the bitcoin-dev archives and the Core commit history a bit.
1642  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Vanity addresses are susceptible to spoofing, *not* a secure UI feature. on: March 25, 2018, 05:44:50 PM
Darkstar has if I'm not wrong 1darkstr or something similar. People recongise those addresses quickly as compared to random ones which are hard to remember

 Cheesy

1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS

I'd get 1DarkStar, but that's too long for me to feasibly make or pay someone to get at a reasonable price.

I just want to note, this is NOT a good means to recognize an address.  There are at least 2100254120907352485526230505830591911428096 (5824) addresses which match the pattern ^1DarkStr.+DS$.  Somebody else could easily find a different one to spoof DarkStar_’s address.

I know that this is a real problem with Tor .onion vanity addresses; and I suspect it may be with Bitcoin vanity addresses, too.

A vanity address is good for showing off, and/or making a statement such as with my 35segwitgLKnDi2kn7unNdETrZzHD2c5xh address.  But it is highly insecure as a user interface feature.
1643  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Collisions of randomly generated keys are impossible in practice. on: March 25, 2018, 03:07:35 PM
What I was imagining was that there could be a simple loop in the program.  Start with the "first" private key (...001), go through the various hashing steps and see if you get a public address with the desired pattern.  If not, then increment the private key by 1 (...002) and do the hashes again. That way, the attempted private keys would effectively get "burned" and not be reused.

It's like buying millions of lottery tickets in the same draw to try to cover as many numbers as possible.  You might as well start with 1-2-3-4-5-6 and then 1-2-3-4-5-7 and so on methodically than to choose a bunch of random "pick 6" numbers.  The chance to win is the same for any set of numbers, but there is a slight chance that a "pick 6" could be generated twice, thereby wasting the ticket (i.e. if you win, you would be splitting the jackpot with yourself).  I suppose the "slight" chance is so slight that maybe it doesn't matter.

The entire security of Bitcoin, PGP, TLS/SSL, Tor, disk encryption, and all other crypto using fixed-length keys rests on the premise that the “slight” chance of a collision is impossible as a practical matter.

Think:  The probability of you picking the same key twice is equal to the probability of an attacker randomly picking your key in a bruteforce attack.

Theoreticians use terms such as “negligible probability” because such a thing is possible in theory.  But it will never actually happen that you generate the same key twice, unless your random number generator is so badly broken as to be worse than useless.  Conceptually, think of randomly picking one drop of water from the ocean, then another, and getting the same drop; or randomly picking one grain of sand from anywhere on Earth, then another, and getting the same grain of sand.  2160 is much bigger than that.

Whereas LoyceV speaks truly:

What I was imagining was that there could be a simple loop in the program.  Start with the "first" private key (...001), go through the various hashing steps and see if you get a public address with the desired pattern.  If not, then increment the private key by 1 (...002) and do the hashes again.
A fixed instead of truely random starting point would mean your private key isn't secure. It would mean anyone could reproduce your search and steal your coins.

Note, however, that Vanitygen does try sequential points from a randomly chosen starting point.  (“Sequential” here does not mean linear “1, 2, 3”; rather, it uses elliptic curve point addition.)  It does this for reason of efficiency.  sipa’s keygrinder used in the current development branch of segvan uses similar methods to rapidly generate a great quantity of keys (or optionally, tweaks) from a single random seed.  This can be secure if and only if all seed and key material other than the “winning” key is destroyed and never reused.
1644  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Answers to vanity generation technical questions on: March 25, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
Each extra character makes it 58 times more difficult to find.
Note that starting with a Capital can be 58 times faster (depending on which character you use): 1Abcdef or 1ABCDEF are much faster than 1abcdef.

Just two questions about the two points:

  • Why is it 58 exactly? My guess would be: is it something like 26 +26+ 10 = 62 (alphabet sets in caps and regular making the 26 each and the 10 being the number of numbers zero to nice) minus four illegal characters?

Yes, 62 minus four illegal characters.  That equals “58 exactly”.

Old-style (pre-Bech32) Bitcoin addresses use base58, not base-62.  Each character is a radix-58 digit, in the range of [0, 57].  Following are the “digits” used by Bitcoin, from an old code snippet of mine.  Observe that “I” (uppercase i), “O” (uppercase o), “0” (numeral zero), and “l” (lowercase L) are excluded.

Code:
	const char base58[59] =
"123456789" /* 9, [0..8] */
"ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZ" /* 24, [9..32] */
"abcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz"; /* 25, [33..57] */

  • Why are capital letters easier to find as compared to regular numbers and what's like the "math" behind it?

Capital letters are not generally easier to find.  However, at the beginning, they represent a lower number.  Since the large integer being represented is in a range which is not a power of 58, higher digits at the beginning may be rare, or even impossible.

For an analogy:

Imagine that you are searching for a pattern of base-10 digits in a 30-bit base-2 (binary) number.  The number you seek has a range of [0, 1073741823].  Digits [2-9] are impossible in the first position; and digit 1 is only in the first position for 73741824/1073741823 ≈ 6.9% of randomly selected 30-bit numbers.

Here, you are searching for a 192-bit base-2 (binary) number, where the upper 160 bits are uniformly distributed and the lower 32 bits are also uniformly distributed (but dependent on the upper 160 bits).  You are representing that number as a base58 number.  Probability of hitting various base58 digits in the first position is left as an exercise to the reader. <g>





Hmm, I'm guessing this more of a practical real life data rather than actual theoretical analysis?
Yes. The theoretical answer must be somewhere within the hashing algorithm, but that's beyond my understanding.

The theoretical answer is actually not in the hashing algorithm at all, but rather, in how a pseudorandom number uniformly distributed across a binary search space is represented in radix-58 (base58).





If you just restart it, nothing is lost. It just makes a clean random start at another point than where you started before.

What does "nothing is lost" mean?  It went through 12 quadrillion tries before crashing.  Is every try completely random (it doesn't "save" a list of previous attempts or go in some methodical order)? 

LoyceV provided a good explanation by analogy to dice throws.  I have only to add:  This is a probabilistic search.  You could hit your lucky address on the very first try (like winning a lottery).  Considering your previous 12 quadrillion “losses” is actually an instance of classic Gambler’s Fallacy.

The probability of repeating one of those 12q tries is the same as trying an untried one? 

In both cases, the probability is negligible = practically impossible.  12 quadrillion (1.2 x 1016) is a drop in the ocean of a 2160 search space (>1048, more than a thousand quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion).

(N.b. that the search space is of size 2160 although its input is 33 octets for compressed keys and 65 octets for uncompressed keys, and the output is a 192-bit number due to the 32-bit checksum.)
1645  Economy / Gambling / Avoid this crypto snakeoil: TELEGRAM-DICE.COM on: March 23, 2018, 08:39:58 PM
TELEGRAM DICE

[...]

Visit https://telegram-dice.com for faucet and live data.

[...]

   Provably fair
🤖
      The random number is simply created from last Bitcoin transaction , we extract the last 4 digits from last Bitcoin transaction hash
      Bets are instantly verifiable

The described system is premised on a severe misunderstanding of how Bitcoin works, coupled with incorrect claims about provably fair systems.  It reeks of pure snakeoil.

Foremost, learn the first rule of applied cryptography:  Almost anybody can design a system which he himself cannot break.  That appears to be what you’ve done here—assuming good faith on your part:  You made a system which you don’t know how to break, then assumed that it could not be broken by people who have far more knowledge than you do.

As RGBKey correctly states, there is no such thing as a “last Bitcoin transaction”.  The whole purpose of the Bitcoin mining system is to create a Byzantine fault-tolerant ordering where no order otherwise exists.  If you are drawing off the last transaction which your node’s mempool happened to see (or you claim to), then you can easily cheat.  Furthermore, an attacker could easily influence your mempool.  You are just waiting for some smart person to clean out your funds!

Forget about using transaction hashes:  Even a block ID is not secure for this purpose, since it can be influenced by miners.  (I should add:  The hashes of confirmed transactions within a block are also easily influenced by miners, since a miner is the one who chooses which transactions to include in the block.)

The hash the last block's ID approach can be biased by miners.  Without knowing what the the result would be used for you can't argue that they wouldn't do it... if they could make themselves win a 100 BTC lottery for sure, ... it would be totally reasonable to orphan and throw out blocks to pull it off.    The earlier proposal to use "the last 64 blocks" doesn't help, the last block is sufficient-- it already commits to all prior blocks anyways.

But that is not the only place where your design is insecure.

You say, “we extract the last 4 digits from last Bitcoin transaction hash” (boldface in the original).  But it would be trivial to create a transaction with fully customized, artificially chosen last 4 digits of its txid!  By tinkering with the nonce used for signature generation in a non-Segwit transaction, I can create any “last 4 digits” I want with an average of only 232 work.  Creating a valid Segwit transaction with predetermined last 4 digits to its txid would be a bit trickier; but off-the-cuff, I can think of a way to do it.  Either way, you have created a system which allows anybody to spend some CPU power and fully determine the outcome of a bet.

So, your system has multiple severe security flaws.

Moreover, you destroy your own credibility is when you throw FUD on sites which are actually provably fair.

the other dice can cheat and change the seed at any time

Wrong.  A site which uses a properly designed commit-and-reveal system cannot cheat, and is guaranteed by the laws of mathematics to be not cheating.  If a site claims to be provably fair when it isn’t (as you are doing), then that is simply fraudulent false advertising.

I respect your opinion

It is not a matter of “opinion” in any arbitrary sense.  Either a site is in fact provably fair, or it is in fact not.  This is a question of mathematics and cryptography—notoriously objective subjects which have no respect for “opinions” in the colloquial sense of that word.

So claiming that you know the truth and writing it in bold and very big , is a little snooty coming from somone who are promoting another dice in his banner.

I have no affiliation with any existing dice site, although my PGP keys are paying an awful lot for my signature space.  I know that RGBKey is correct in what he says, because I have a technical understanding of how Bitcoin works and also, of how provably fair systems work.

What RGBKey has explained to you is very basic Bitcoin knowledge, plus a dash of Applied Cryptography 101.  It is a matter of factual correctness, not of opinions; and your ad hominem argumentation does not change the facts.



To OP, you should not foist such an insecure site on the public with incorrect claims that it is “provably fair”.  It provably isn’t.  If you want to design your own dice system, then you need to either engage in long study of the secure design and implementation of cryptographic protocols, or hire a competent expert to help you.

To others reading this thread:  Avoid this site.
1646  Other / Meta / Cloudflare tried to CAPTCHA me! on: March 23, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
The Cloudflare Javascript cavity-searches continue—on and off, much more “on” than “off”.  This seems to occur about as often as I get a new IP address, approximately every 10 minutes.  The “browser check” page interacts badly with multiple SMF functions, including posting and sending PMs.

Worse, about an hour ago, Cloudflare tried to CAPTCHA me when I was making a post:

Screenshot of Cloudflare CAPTCHA on bitcointalk.org

I backed up, changed Tor circuits, and pasted in my post again.  The change of circuits worked—this time.

I don’t want to keep complaining on this thread, but the situation keeps getting worse.  Moreover, I needed to leave a note somewhere—just in case:

I will not jump through “I am not a robot” hoops simply to access the site when I’m already logged in.  If I suddenly disappear, please check to see whether Cloudflare is CAPTCHAing Tor users.

To inform those who may make assumptions based on non-Tor experience:  The Google CAPTCHA (used by Cloudflare) cranks up the tedium all the way for Tor users, with multiple successive challenges which slooooowly load new images.0  It always takes more than a full minute to complete.  Worse, for the past few months, Google has been frequently refusing to serve CAPTCHAs to Tor users.  The last time I needed to do a Google CAPTCHA, the whole process of obtaining and then solving it took me about 10 minutes!  Obviously, I will NOT even consider doing that just to load a webpage.  I don’t care if the webpage be carved of solid gold.  It is outrageous in principle.

CAPTCHAs for page loads would mean an effectual ban of Tor users.  Please don’t let that happen.





0. Aside, I do not see what possible purpose the long artificial delays in challenge image loading have for stopping robots.  A robot’s time is worth nothing, and it has no feelings of mind-dulling boredom.  The only conceivable purpose of these long delays is to torment humans who use Tor.

Overall, Cloudflare’s mistreatment of Tor users has for years been a textbook example of “the nudge” method for social engineering.  Cloudflare loudly claimes to support privacy, and they say they don’t hate Tor.  But actions are louder than words; and the net effect of their actions is to consistently discourage Tor use.

With only a few exceptions such as the Bitcoin Forum, I have been boycotting Cloudflared sites for about four years now.  I do not want a man in the middle serving as a mass-decryption point to monitor my communications with a wide range of sites.  I do not want to be tormented and have chunks of my lifetime stolen as punishment for caring about my own privacy.  And I miss nothing; it’s not my loss.  There is plenty of other Internet for me.
1647  Other / Meta / Demand for self-doxing; really capital punishment; cart00neys; ceterum censeo... on: March 23, 2018, 06:22:24 PM
Can you clearly mention which part of country does Lauda belongs and what is his TAX ID?

Why do you have this insane notion that someone would willingly post their location and tax details to a public forum?

Because he’s insane.  “Bats in the belfry” is my medical diagnosis, especially since it has been discovered that Lauda is in fact a flying catbat.

Of course, a location sufficient to identify jurisdiction would not suffice:  Also impliedly needed are a full “legal” name, and a physical address.  Date of birth would also be helpful.  Plus of course, the tax ID (if Lauda even be subject to a jurisdiction which uses tax ID numbers).  Altogether, endlasuresh has peremptorily commanded that Lauda commit the most extraordinary self-doxing ever yet seen on the Intertubes!

In other news, doctor, I urgently need your help with a serious case of Pleurodelinaemia.





You forgot:  Lauda is a tax evading sockpuppeting pill addict who turned you into a newt.  Even if you got better, you should not let the crime go unpunished!

Yes, a most horrendous case of Pleurodelinaemia, and one that required my years of knowledge to treat. Casting such a spell is clearly treason, and therefore I would argue for capital punishment.

Capital punishment?  Oh, no—not punishment of the Bitcoins!  That would be cruel and unusual.





Still this thread not reached to FBI, but ill submit it to FBI and CBI.nic.in as one Indian here said same thing retarded.

In nanae, a ridiculous legal threat such as this was called a “cartooney” (also spelt “cart00ney”).  The same as for “lawsuites” which will be filed any time, now...

Anyway, I know that the FBI just loves receiving nonsensical reports about imaginary crimes by persons who are probably not even under the jurisdiction of the United States.  To help keep busy agents organized, they even have a special file for such reports.  It is called the “roundfile”.

P.S., please also report me to the FBI, the CBI, the ABC, and the XYZ, too.  I would not want to feel left out—and nor would any agency!

[Pre-posting edit:  @Steamtyme, I wrote that before I saw your post.  Good thinking.  Cheers.]





You never seen Lauda's nasty things here?

You have no idea how nasty Lauda is!  Look here:

As I was initiated into a cryptic cult with rites of the goddess Hecate, the renowned paranormal researcher William Blake caught this photograph of Lauda shapeshifted to the form of a flying catbat:

Photo of LAUDA as a FLYING CATBAT
The witch LAUDA
Identified Flying Object (IFO)
(Better than a UFO.  Much better than an ICO.)


Is any more actual proof needed to sustain a charge of witchcraft? Shocked





Ceterum censeo, Quickseller should kill himself.
1648  Economy / Reputation / The witch LAUDA gave me Pleurodelinaemia!! on: March 23, 2018, 05:29:18 PM
As I was initiated into a cryptic cult with rites of the goddess Hecate, the renowned paranormal researcher William Blake caught this photograph of Lauda shapeshifted to the form of a flying catbat:

Well, that’s nothing.  Lauda became angry at me when I failed to keep up a regular schedule of worshipping the devil and oppressing spammers and scammers poor, innocent denizens of the forum.  Now, it is difficult for me to type any posts at all.  Just look at me!  My fingers!

Loading photo of nullius as a newt...
nullius under Lauda’s spell
(Photo credit: Connor Long.)

On the bright side, I now have a voracious appetite for mosquito larvae.  Delicious!





You forgot:  Lauda is a tax evading sockpuppeting pill addict who turned you into a newt.  Even if you got better, you should not let the crime go unpunished!

Yes, a most horrendous case of Pleurodelinaemia, and one that required my years of knowledge to treat. Casting such a spell is clearly treason, and therefore I would argue for capital punishment.

Dr. o_e_l_e_o, a web search review of the literature makes it apparent that you have advanced the medical state of the art with your characterization and efficacious treatment of Pleurodelinaemia, as well as adding that word to the medical lexicon.  Now, I need your help!

HELP!

LAUDA MUST BE STOPPED!
1649  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Hardware wallets vs. airgap machines; supply-chain attacks; forward/backward sec on: March 23, 2018, 03:50:03 AM
How about an air-gapped PC?

This.  With the proviso that this means a dedicated machine which is never connected to a network, and has hardware capable of non-contact connections (such as wifi and bluetooth) physically removed.  I state this explicitly, for I’ve observed that many people mistakenly believe that rebooting their network machines with a live CD/USB makes for an “airgap”.

Part of the advantage of an airgap machine is that the hardware can be purchased anonymously.  For ordinary individuals, buying an inexpensive laptop (sufficient for Bitcoin, PGP, etc.) off the shelf for cash is the only practical means I know for precluding any chance of a targeted supply-chain attack.  Wherefore this part of the Ledger vulnerability disclosure blog post caught my attention (boldface is in the original):

Quote from: Saleem Rashid
In this disclosure, we will focus primarily on the case of supply chain attacks. That is: whether or not you can trust your hardware wallet when you purchase it from a reseller or third party. But, as I explain briefly at the beginning of this article, the methods described here can be applied to the other two attack vectors.

Well, that was always my biggest problem with hardware wallets!  How do I get one?

A company garners my distrust when it not only fails to adequately address this question, but gives its customers advice so irresponsible as to verge on negligence (archive.is link corrected to https):

Quote from: Saleem Rashid
Ledger’s CTO even goes as far as to tell users that it is completely safe to purchase from eBay (archive.is / archive.org).

Do they claim their hardware to be unhackable!?

The first rule of computer security is physical security.  If an attacker comes into physical possession of your hardware, then you must thence permanently consider that hardware to be compromised.

My understanding of tamper-resistant hardware wallets was always that they would resist extraction of keymat already stored on the device—backward-looking protection of data at rest.  Not that they would guarantee forward safety of the device after it had been in possession of an adversary.

An airgap PC with properly0 encrypted disks will also protect your coins against thieves who steal the device—but with the difficulty that this only moves the key management problem from one place to another:  How do you secure your disk encryption keys?  Tamper-resistant hardware could be quite helpful here; I’ve had some relevant thoughts, but of course, that would require obtaining uncompromised tamper-resistant hardware.

(Of course, an airgap PC which has been stolen and recovered must be treated as permanently compromised.)


0. Don’t get me started.
1650  Other / Meta / Plagiarist socks: #1633886 “salsa” #1644895 “bitcoinbooster” #1644927 “serasara” on: March 22, 2018, 11:29:45 PM
Please nuke the following accounts from orbit.  Since they all seem to represent some of the tottering first steps of an aspiring account farmer, I recommend that Administrators check IP evidence for any linkage to other accounts.  If such a thing were practicable, the individual who did this should be altogether deprived of Internet access, an also of oxygen.


Eight out of nine posts by “salsa” are plagiarism.  (The ninth is a one-line shitpost praising an allegedly free “transaction accelerator”.)  The other two above-listed accounts are almost certainly sockpuppets of the same individual.

I shall now proceed to quote each and every post by all three of these accounts.  Yes, it’s that bad.

Table of Contents






For its first post, “salsa” chose a modus operandi of copypasting the OP of the thread, in the same thread.  More of this is seen below.

Original, topic OP:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322011643/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353448.msg23988064#msg23988064
I see a lot of people pushing for companies like Amazon to accept Bitcoin as a payment option. Have we considered the

implications of these decisions? Let's say we cannot scale to "service" the need for millions of new people who would use

this technology for the first time. What a big embarrassment would it be, if people waited 13 hours for their transactions to

be confirmed. Doing this now will hurt Bitcoin more than any other "bad" thing that has happened to it before.

We need to wait for the perfect scaling solution to address this problem, before Amazon or any other big retailer starts to

accept Bitcoin as a payment option. The Lightning Network might get us close, but it is not a proven technology yet.

Let's hear your thoughts on this?  Huh Huh

Plagiarized on page 7 of the same thread as the first-ever post by the “salsa” account:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322011526/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353448.msg27747879#msg27747879
I see a lot of people pushing for companies like Amazon to accept Bitcoin as a payment option. Have we considered the

implications of these decisions? Let's say we cannot scale to "service" the need for millions of new people who would use

this technology for the first time. What a big embarrassment would it be, if people waited 13 hours for their transactions to

be confirmed. Doing this now will hurt Bitcoin more than any other "bad" thing that has happened to it before.

We need to wait for the perfect scaling solution to address this problem, before Amazon or any other big retailer starts to

accept Bitcoin as a payment option. The Lightning Network might get us close, but it is not a proven technology yet.






“salsa” used the same m.o. for its second post.

Original, topic OP:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322011958/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133931.msg1426125#msg1426125
In these times of Mass scammers out there, I urge people to use an escrow. There are many good members out there willing to help to secure the bitcoin community, There are also more people willing to do anything to scam you out of your coins, Please just do your research on someone before you part with your hard earned coins.

An escrow list - updated 11/17

Note to mod, I know this is in the wrong section as I am not selling anything, I feel we all need to be wiser, People in the selling forums are less likely to look elsewhere for information on what this is and how it is acheved,
Even if a few people read this and use escrow, Or a few scammers don't get their coins, I will consider this a good job.
Please consider not moveing out the way, This needs to be addressed.

** jan 16

There is a new wave of possible scammers, People who buy up legendary accounts and trade untill they have large sum of money then run, This has been done with a very trusted account recently.

Please be cautious, I am trying to set up a 3 way secure key escrow for my personal escrows to add peace of mind.

I would like to point out, that I do not partake in escrowing forum accounts, I never have and never will, in fact its against the rules on my forum, This is a trust based commodity as it stands, if we keep moving the goal posts as well as the stadium, no one can be accountable for theft!

Keep safe people, dont give up, trust in BTC, suspect people :-)

** April 17

please watch out for fake accounts made to look like hero/legendary escrow accounts, check the join date and the letters of the name exatly! some use numerical 0 instead of alphabetical O, and please watch out for sold accounts! this forum allows selling of any account, so make it difficult to know who's still real, I do not allow selling of accounts on my forum  Roll Eyes

Plagiarized on page 14 of same thread as the second post by the “salsa” account:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322012127/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133931.msg27748797#msg27748797
In these times of Mass scammers out there, I urge people to use an escrow. There are many good members out there willing to help to secure the bitcoin community, There are also more people willing to do anything to scam you out of your coins, Please just do your research on someone before you part with your hard earned coins.

An escrow list - updated 11/17

Note to mod, I know this is in the wrong section as I am not selling anything, I feel we all need to be wiser, People in the selling forums are less likely to look elsewhere for information on what this is and how it is acheved,
Even if a few people read this and use escrow, Or a few scammers don't get their coins, I will consider this a good job.
Please consider not moveing out the way, This needs to be addressed.

** jan 16

There is a new wave of possible scammers, People who buy up legendary accounts and trade untill they have large sum of money then run, This has been done with a very trusted account recently.

Please be cautious, I am trying to set up a 3 way secure key escrow for my personal escrows to add peace of mind.

I would like to point out, that I do not partake in escrowing forum accounts, I never have and never will, in fact its against the rules on my forum, This is a trust based commodity as it stands, if we keep moving the goal posts as well as the stadium, no one can be accountable for theft!

Keep safe people, dont give up, trust in BTC, suspect people :-)

** April 17

please watch out for fake accounts made to look like hero/legendary escrow accounts, check the join date and the letters of the name exatly! some use numerical 0 instead of alphabetical O, and please watch out for sold accounts! this forum allows selling of any account, so make it difficult to know who's still real, I do not allow selling of accounts on my forum   Roll Eyes





I can’t find the source for the third post by the “salsa” account; but it is obviously plagiarized, too.  It even references a “table below” which does not exist in the post.  It appears to be copied from marketing materials for Monex Investindo Futures (MIFX), an Indonesian forex broker.  Incidentally, the material is off-topic in the thread.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322013759/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2711756.msg27751213#msg27751213
What is the effect of spread on profit opportunities?
Often traders only consider commissions trading. In reality, trading profits depend on commissions and spreads. Monex comes with the lowest commission and spread combinations with no hidden costs that give you a lower break-even point and a 40% higher profit chance *.
* You can see illustrations of the effect of spreads and commissions in the table below

Why deal with market execution?
Market execution is an order to buy or sell at the best available price when the broker receives the request. The order will be immediately done without "requote" or rejection at the best market price so as to guarantee the speed of your transaction.

Why choose an official licensed legal broker?
As a legal broker under the supervision of BAPPEBTI, Monex has operational standards in line with applicable regulations, including a separate account system applied to all customer funds. This ensures the security of your funds is assured during trading. You can also enjoy the ease of withdrawing funds on the same day as all client funds are kept in account in Indonesia.





Similar as with the account’s third post, its fourth post is self-evident copypaste plagiarism related to an Indonesian service, stuck in a thread where it is off-topic (here deep on page 5).  This one appears to have potentially been run through a machine translation, and self-references “the authors” (plural).

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322014357/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2694817.msg27751818#msg27751818
The rapid development of the business world in line with technological developments has had a major impact on the economic development of Indonesia. This is seen by the tight competition in the business world both trade and industry products and services and the increasing demands of consumers not only limited products or goods consumed but also improved quality of service / service for the product.
This increasingly fierce competition requires companies to manage all existing resources optimally in order to survive in the business world tends to change rapidly. Inventory of goods is one important resource for the survival of a company.
Hospital is one form of business services that provide health services in fulfilling the life of the community, where hospitals in this day and age again only how a person was quickly healed. A very significant development of the proliferation of clinics and hospitals, so the management must strive to provide the best service to paasien not only how to cure it but also apply how to provide support facilities to patients.
Therefore, the authors are interested to discuss the problem Supporting Facilities (Facilities Support) at the Hospital with the aim of improving service to consumers in this case the patient.





For its fifth post, “salsa” copypaste from an article about the outsourcing of graphic design.  But here, “salsa” added its own creative touch:  Two emoticons appended to the bottom of the copypaste!

Note:  The sentence, “Graphic design is one of those things where people like different things but dislike the same ones” is a witty quip which appears to have been plagiarized by other sites (e.g.).

Putative original—link and boldface here presented as in the original:

https://www.ictc-burgas.org/en/news/graphic-design-with-an-outsourcing-company-pros-and-cons
(URL failed to load for me; may be blocking Tor?)

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322015136/https://www.ictc-burgas.org/en/news/graphic-design-with-an-outsourcing-company-pros-and-cons

Quote from: ICT Burgas
Graphic design is one of those things where people like different things but dislike the same ones. In a way, when a bad design appears in the world, anyone can tell it’s bad. That’s why you need to be extra cautious when delegating your graphic design tasks to someone else.

                 

Once familiar with the risks, taking the decision of choosing the right outsourcing company will turn into a child’s play. Or at least your choice spectrum will be significantly narrowed down.

If you’re looking for a partner, we - from ICT Burgas, can connect any business looking for outsourcing opportunities with the appropriate local company and guarantee its efficiency and premium quality.

We’ve always preferred bad news served first so let’s try something unconventional and start with the cons of outsourcing your graphic design tasks.

Cons

[...]

Plagiarism, with addition of two eye-rolling emoticons:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322020038/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2717933.msg27815054#msg27815054
Graphic design is one of those things where people like different things but dislike the same ones. In a way, when a bad design appears in the world, anyone can tell it’s bad. That’s why you need to be extra cautious when delegating your graphic design tasks to someone else.

                 

Once familiar with the risks, taking the decision of choosing the right outsourcing company will turn into a child’s play. Or at least your choice spectrum will be significantly narrowed down.

If you’re looking for a partner, we - from ICT Burgas, can connect any business looking for outsourcing opportunities with the appropriate local company and guarantee its efficiency and premium quality.

We’ve always preferred bad news served first so let’s try something unconventional and start with the cons of outsourcing your graphic design tasks.

  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Note:  The copypaste job did not retain formatting, but did keep the weird invisible whitespace on the apparently blank second line.





For its sixth post, the “salsa” account plagiarized an old version of Wikipedia’ Bitcoin article.  This text has been plagiarized (without attribution) on multiple other websites, and was likely copied from one of those.

Wikipedia’s edit history has many variations of the wording within this passage; there is probably one which is an exact match, which I simply didn’t find in the page’s voluminous edit history.

(Aside:  1rYK1YzEGa59pI314159KUF2Za4jAYYTd also shows up as an example address in https://casascius.com/AgreementToDeliverBitcoins.pdf, which is still served up with a last-modified date of 2011-02-04 17:39:13 (UTC).  Does anybody know what that address is, or where it originated?)

2011 vintage Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin&oldid=416583341

Quote from: Wikipedia
Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer implementation of Wei Dai's b-money proposal and Nick Szabo's Bitgold proposal. The principles of the system are described in Satoshi Nakamoto's 2008 Bitcoin whitepaper.[1]
Addresses

Any person participating in the bitcoin network has a wallet containing an arbitrary number of cryptographic keypairs. The public keys, or bitcoin addresses, act as the sending or receiving endpoints for all payments. Their corresponding private keys authorize payments from that user only. Addresses contain no information about their owner and are generally anonymous.[2] Addresses in human-readable form are strings of random numbers and letters around 33 characters in length, of the form 1rYK1YzEGa59pI314159KUF2Za4jAYYTd. Bitcoin users can own multiple addresses, and in fact can generate new ones without any limit, as generating a new address is relatively instantaneous, simply equivalent to generating a public/private key pair, and requires no contact with any nodes of the network. Creating single-purpose/single-use addresses can help preserve a user's anonymity.

Plagiarism:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322024338/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133931.msg27821715#msg27821715
Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer implementation of the b-money proposal by Wei Dai and Bitgold's proposal by Nick Szabo. The principle of the system in general has been described in 2008 by Satoshi Nakamoto.
Delivery

Someone who participates in a bitcoin network has a wallet that stores some keypair - keypair critiques. Public key - public key, or address - bitcoin address, which acts as the endpoint send or receive for all payments. The associated private key only allows payments only from the user itself. Addresses do not contain any information about the owner and are generally unknown. [8] Addresses in human readable format consist of random numbers and letters that are approximately 33 characters long, in the format 1rYK1YzEGa59pI314159KUF2Za4jAYYTd. Bitcoin users can have multiple addresses, and the fact can generate new addresses without any restrictions, because creating a new address is immediate, comparable to generating a common





The “salsa” account’s seventh post is self-evident plagiarism from a source I cannot immediately locate.  It appears to be from marketing materials for “Journals, cloud-based online accounting software”.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031043/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1635900.msg27824788#msg27824788
Accounting according to the American Accounting Association is a process of identifying, measuring, and communicating economic information to get the right decision from users of corporate information. However, in the process many companies experience mistakes in the accounting process that can cause losses to the loss of trust from others. Here are some mistakes in accounting processes that are often found in companies.

 

Recording & Reconciliation Errors

As businesses begin to run smoothly, many entrepreneurs ignore the financial statements simply by reason of not having much time. By not logging business transactions, financial statements will be inconsistent with actual company conditions. Inappropriate and inappropriate financial statements can have a negative effect on the company such as credit rating to be bad or delivery of goods from suppliers to be not smooth.

 

Only Make Reports as Records

Many entrepreneurs see accounting only as a process of recording corporate financial data that serves only to calculate the balance of the company or the interests of taxation. But in reality, financial statements can provide information as a consideration chart to determine decisions or create strategies for developing a company's business.

 

Forgot Saving Transaction Proof

Often forget to keep a proof of a transaction like a receipt or note often happens to everyone, especially when attention and thoughts are focused on things. While receipts and notes can be a valid evidence when there is a difference in the number at the time of checking financial statements. Not only that, receipts and notes are also very useful and can facilitate the process of audit and taxation.

 

Mathematical Error When Counting

Counting errors do not only happen to the culprits but also often happen to experienced accountants. This error often occurs when in a hurry or when tired so can not detect the error. Error calculating when combined with input and reconciliation errors can be a big mistake in the company's financial statements. Where, if the error is unknown for months can lead to a more complex problem when it wants to fix and resolve it.

 

Those are some of the most common mistakes in the accounting process. To reduce accounting mistakes many entrepreneurs are entrusting their business accounting process with accounting software. Journals, cloud-based online accounting software can help entrepreneurs in making financial reports instantly. Not only that, with Journal accounting software, you can also monitor financial reports anywhere and anytime in real-time. For more info on Journals, you can see here.





For its eighth post, “salsa” liked a really stupid post so much that its controlling wetware almost simultaneously copypasted it under two different accounts, then praised it with a self-evident sockpuppet.

I wonder what is so significant about this post?  Why did this idiocy warrant such attention?

Putative original, by an account which last posted on 2017-11-22, although its profile page shows a login as recently as 2018-03-20 (mostly ungrammatical posts; interests include: airdrops, altcoins, “transaction accelerators”, praising the S2X team...):

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031319/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2340424.msg23822464#msg23822464
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.

Copypaste by #1644895 “bitcoinbooster”, first and only post by account created 2018-01-10 02:59:21:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031648/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2718302.msg27814176#msg27814176
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.

Instant agreement nine minutes later by #1644927 “serasara”, first and only post of account created 2018-01-10 03:08:09:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031712/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2718302.msg27814422#msg27814422
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.

I agree with you, thank you for that insight!

Eighth post of “salsa”, almost certainly the same wetware operating this sockpuppet show; note the timestamps on all the copies of this obscure post!

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322032502/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2707174.msg27827623#msg27827623
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.





For its ninth post, “salsa” made a shitpost praising an allegedly free “transaction accelerator”:

Re: [FREE] Bitcoin Transaction Accelerator
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322032811/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2455333.msg27830871#msg27830871
your website is really good. that's really help me as beginners to understand important concepts surrounding cryptos.

Well, I suppose that’s “original” in the sense that I have no evidence of it having been plagiarized.  What a contribution to the forum!

Please guarantee that that shall have been the last-ever post by that account—and if any other linkage can be found, please terminate this person’s posting career!
1651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚠️ “Relex [RLX]” = SPAMMERS ☠️ on: March 22, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
#1100145 “KevinVu-Relex” is spamming the forum for this stupid token.  I just reported 4 out of 8 posts “KevinVu-Relex” has ever made, for violation of this strict rule (boldface added) as quoted in the Bitcointalk.org rules:

Ads are typically not allowed in posts (outside of the signature area) because they are annoying and off-topic. It is especially disallowed to put ads or signatures at the bottom of all of your posts. Except for traditional valedictions, which are tolerated but discouraged, signatures are for the signature area only.

Are you mentally ill? The team might not be aware of such an arbitrary rule, hell I wasn't until you pointed it out.

Failure to read the rules is “the team’s” problem, not mine.  It is evidently a problem with consequences, since #1100145 “KevinVu-Relex” has been nuked:

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
Quote from: Deletion log
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1100145

As for your mental health question, I suggest that you ask your doctor about narcissism.  The world does not revolve around you.  You must learn to heed rules made for the proper functioning of a social community, or GTFO.





https://web.archive.org/web/20180322195227/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075473.msg32918984#msg32918984
Spam? He was replying to questions, and linking their ANN at the end of his comments. I'd be hard pressed to call that spamming. Spamming would be him posting the same ad or link over and over, without provocation. I started reading your paragraph thinking I'd come away with a convincing argument, but I'm just disappointed I read it now.

I could see that but all of his responses were true and it wasn't like he was outright shilling the relex token so i dont see the problem to be honest. His responses excluding the link we're free of any shilling. So id just tell him to remove it, but i wouldnt say its spam...

Two living examples of Sharp’s Corollary:  “Spammers attempt to re-define ‘spamming’ as that which they do not do.”  Also, of Rules-Keeper Shaffer’s Refrain.

You do not get to define what spam is.





Maybe you are trying to FUD to get the price lowered (won't work), or maybe you are too poor to buy dirt cheap RLX, and you are jealous.

I wouldn’t take your spamcoin if it were given to me for free.

Anyway, thank you for helping confirm that Relex and Relex supporters are a nest of spammers and spam-apologists.  I will remember to never, ever buy anything made by anybody involved with Relex; and I recommend that others do likewise.

DO NOT BUY RELEX.  DO NOT SUPPORT SPAM!
1652  Other / Meta / Instant examples Re: The Rules of Spam, Bitcointalk.org Edition on: March 22, 2018, 09:11:20 PM
Earlier, I vocally complained about spam by #1100145 “KevinVu-Relex” which directly violated this forum rule:

Ads are typically not allowed in posts (outside of the signature area) because they are annoying and off-topic. It is especially disallowed to put ads or signatures at the bottom of all of your posts. Except for traditional valedictions, which are tolerated but discouraged, signatures are for the signature area only.

Wherepon, I promptly received two living examples of Sharp’s Corollary:  “Spammers attempt to re-define ‘spamming’ as that which they do not do.”  Also, of Rules-Keeper Shaffer’s Refrain.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322195227/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075473.msg32918984#msg32918984
Spam? He was replying to questions, and linking their ANN at the end of his comments. I'd be hard pressed to call that spamming. Spamming would be him posting the same ad or link over and over, without provocation. I started reading your paragraph thinking I'd come away with a convincing argument, but I'm just disappointed I read it now.

I could see that but all of his responses were true and it wasn't like he was outright shilling the relex token so i dont see the problem to be honest. His responses excluding the link we're free of any shilling. So id just tell him to remove it, but i wouldnt say its spam...

Well, I suppose that mods do not follow the spammer (re)definition of “spam”.

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
Quote from: Deletion log
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1100145
1653  Other / Meta / The Rules of Spam, Bitcointalk.org Edition on: March 22, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
The Rules set forth below are here adapted for Bitcointalk.org use from the news.admin.net-abuse.email Rules of Spam, via the WWW version created by Mart van de Wege.  (Hat tip to Bruce Pennypacker for making this findable via WWW search.)  My additions for the Bitcoin Forum are marked out with orange attributions.  I may edit this post to add internal links, add new rules, etc.

These Rules distill the essential wisdom born of long experience by people who had been fighting spam since Usenet and e-mail spam were invented.  I now pass them on to a new generation, in a new medium, who suffer spam premised on widespread confusion over a radically new kind of money.





Rule #0: Spam is theft.

  • Angel’s Commentary: Spammers believe it’s okay to steal a little bit from each person on the Internet at once.
  • Nullian Commentary: When a spammer smells free money from ICOs, airdrops, scamcoins, and other P&D “projects” which inevitably rip people off in a zero-sum game, he believes that it would be genuinely unfair for him to not take a cut.


Rule #1: Spammers lie.

  • Russel’s Admonition: Always assume that there is a measurable chance that the entity you are dealing with is a spammer.
  • Lexical Contradiction: Spammers will redefine any term in order to disguise their abuse of Internet resources.
    • Sharp’s Corollary: Spammers attempt to re-define “spamming” as that which they do not do.
    • Finnell’s Corollary: Spammers define “remove” as “validate.”
    • Nullian Corollary: Spammers redefine “crypto” as “free money grab”, “opportunity for the poor” as “destoying the socioeconomic utility of mass communications”, and “dev team” as “spammers with an ETH token or unmaintained Bitcoin clone, a webpage, and the all-important ANN thread”.


Rule #2: If a spammer seems to be telling the truth, see Rule #1.

  • Crissman’s Corollary: A spammer, when caught, blames his victims.
  • Moore’s Corollary: Spammers’ lies are seldom questioned by mainstream media.


Rule #3: Spammers are stupid.

  • Krueger’s Corollary: Spammer lies are really stupid.
    • Pickett’s Commentary: Spammer lies are boring.
  • Russell’s Corollary: Never underestimate the stupidity of spammers.
  • Spinosa’s Corollary: Spammers assume everybody is more stupid than themselves.
  • Spammer’s Standard of Discourse: Threats and intimidation trump facts and logic.


Rule #4: The natural course of a spamming business is to go bankrupt.

  • Nullian Commentary: “Pump” is always followed by “dump”.


Rules-Keeper Shaffer’s Refrain: Spammers routinely prove the Rules of Spam are valid.


Nullian Law of the Conservation of Spammishness: Spammers never change.

Across space and time, throughout different media, spammers always exhibit the same characteristics in conformance to these Rules:  They steal, they lie, they’re stupid, their money-grubbing schemes are economically unsustainable—and they always provide exemplary demonstration of the validity of the Rules.

Whether the spam be Usenet spam, e-mail spam, forum spam, weblog comment spam, “SEO” search engine spam, spam with eggs, spam on rye, spam with bacon, spam soup, Internet spam, PTSN phone spam, snailmail spam, SMS spam, red spam, green spam, blue spam, “crypto” spam which is an abuse of that word, or other spam of any kind whatsoever, spammers are always the same.


Nullian Law of Social Opportunity Cost of Spam:  In addition to its direct damage to the usefulness of communications, spam has the hidden cost of absorbing the productive time of spamfighters.

This is a logical corollary to Rule #0, but of sufficient import to be its own top-level rule.

My instant motivation for pulling up the venerable nanae Rules of Spam was the moment when I realized I’d spent most of my past day’s forum time quietly fighting spam behind the scenes.  This led me to reflect somberly (and not for the first time) on people who do far more to fight spam than I do.  What positive contributions would they make, what productive work would they do, what creativity would they work, if their time and energy were not spent keeping the forum usable for everybody?

Since the dawn of time, such has been the unending dilemma of all those who wage war on the ugly:  Create beauty amidst a cesspool, or fight for an environment wherein beautiful things may exist?

“I want more and more to perceive the necessary characters in things as the beautiful:  —I shall thus be one of those who beautify things.  Amor fati: let that henceforth be my love!  I do not want to wage war with the ugly.  I do not want to accuse, I do not want even to accuse the accusers.  Lookingaside, let that be my sole negation!  And all in all, to sum up: I wish to be at any time hereafter only a yea-sayer!”Friedrich Nietzsche
1654  Other / Meta / Buying merit is as buying grades in school on: March 22, 2018, 02:23:20 PM
#ifdef POSTING_OUTSIDE_THE_CORRECT_TOPIC

Chronic trash poster #1856716 “windyharm” (check post history!) whined:

If they had bought merits then how could they had cheated the system? they bought it with their own money only

Perhaps a metaphor may elucidate:

If they had bought grades in school then how could they had cheated the system? they bought it with their own money only

Understand now?

Code:
#endif /* POSTING_OUTSIDE_THE_CORRECT_TOPIC */
1655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / ⚠️ “Relex [RLX]” = SPAMMERS ☠️ on: March 22, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
⚠️ SPAMMER WARNING ☠️

#1100145 “KevinVu-Relex” is spamming the forum for this stupid token.  I just reported 4 out of 8 posts “KevinVu-Relex” has ever made, for violation of this strict rule (boldface added) as quoted in the Bitcointalk.org rules:

Ads are typically not allowed in posts (outside of the signature area) because they are annoying and off-topic. It is especially disallowed to put ads or signatures at the bottom of all of your posts. Except for traditional valedictions, which are tolerated but discouraged, signatures are for the signature area only.

In this thread, “KevinVu-Relex” appears to speak in an official capacity for “Relex”.  This leads me to conclude:  If you buy this shit token, then you are supporting spammers!

DO NOT BUY RELEX.  DO NOT SUPPORT SPAM!

Spam posts:

In India, the transaction in cryptocurrency is not yet approved by Indian Government but they are saying, we need to analysis it before approval.

Our Finance minster Arun Jaitley said in his budget speech that the government will do everything to discontinue the use of virtual currencies in India.

So, we are in dilemma to invest in this or not?

I think you should identify what regulations and laws as detail as possible, my experience there're many countries also regulated about the crypto as using it as fiat currencies which mean you can use crypto to buy goods, services, food etc..., but they available to exchange from cash to crypto and crypto to cash.

And soon many governments from countries will issue laws for it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075473.0

Would you support to open bitcoin or crypto in college level,so people can go to learn exactly what they need to learn about bitcoin.

As I know there're some colleges will open crypto and blockchain course to teach their learners. This may be a major subject of education institution in future.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075473.0

Blockchain is a new kind of database - block or records connected to another block. That's the simplest explanation. However, I want to ask the hard question.

What are the limitations of blockchain? I know this is a really good innovation and I highly support it, not because I join the bandwagon, but because bitcoin will not exist if not because of it.... But I want to have a better understanding of the blockchain (in layman's terms please) if I want to get really serious about cryptocurrency and ICOs. My second question is, what are the things experts do to improve blockchain?

In my opinions, blockchain is now a promising period, this is ideal concept for the new data type and structure. Blockchain is now under research and development for applying into the real world. Not sure 100%, but could be a fantastic promise for future.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075473.0

Being new to the digital currency world, I have read various articles about blockchain and bitcoin in order to understand How, When and Why it is created. Blockchain have been the backbone of bitcoin, meaning BTC exists through blockchain. Year after year blockchain developed to handle a more sophisticated activities digitally. Being decentralized it eliminates the infinite reproduction in the digital world and making it invulnerable to hackers. Blockchain technology is being tested by various non-profit organizations for the following purposes:
1.   Helping two billion people that lacks bank accounts.
2.   Making World Food Programme’s growing cash-based transfer operations faster, cheaper and more secure.
3.   Using blockchain to guarantee authenticity of texts, avoid censorship and combating fake news
Behind the development of blockchain still some minds remained unconvinced saying that technology have been promoted it intensively with unrealistic claims.
Considering such information what is your opinion on what is Blockchain to Bitcoin. Will bitcoin end, if blockchain end?. Feel free to express your opinion Cheesy

If Bitcoin dies, does not matter, blockchain is still alive.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075473.180

DO NOT BUY RELEX.  DO NOT SUPPORT SPAM!
1656  Other / Meta / Re: Cloudflare now persistently requiring Javascript! (Here’s my temp mitigation.) on: March 22, 2018, 08:59:17 AM
Well, it seems to have subsided sometime between about 18:30 and 22:30 hours (UTC).

...and, now it’s back!  This seriously impairs use of the forum for those affected.  Besides other concerns, having Javascript enabled (and running Cloudflare’s scripts) also increases memory usage to the degree that I can’t open many tabs as I am accustomed to doing.  At least in the break, I managed to do most of the searching necessary to nail a copypaste spammer (will post results later).

The obvious inference is that Cloudflare’s incompetent system can’t handle a heavy DDoS, so they ratchet up this Javascript garbage whenever the site gets hit.  To add insult to injury, they have failed to keep the site consistently available during DDoS attacks in the past few months.

Just noticed cloudfare now as well. Similar to nullius' first post i am asked to turn on javascript and then even see the "please wait.." message before getting redirected to the forums. Its just a few seconds of waiting but its quite annoying actually. Wouldn't it be possible to have cloudfare without the "please wait..?"

Or is the "please wait" appearing only to me?

For the “please wait” message, please see Meretrix’s screenshots a few posts above yours.  Do those look familiar?

It’s more than “just a few seconds of waiting”.  What the hell is that script actually doing, when it says “checking your browser”?  I don’t know.  I do know that even against Tor Browser, there exist fingerprint attacks which could be used for deanonymization—and I don’t trust Cloudflare.

One of the great things about the Bitcoin Forum is that it’s run by a clueful admin who cares about privacy and security.  I understand the untenable position in which theymos has been placed by the large-scale attacks of Internet arsonists; but in the long term, Cloudflare can ruin the site in the manner of a cure worse than the disease.
1657  Other / Meta / Re: Cloudflare now persistently requiring Javascript! (Here’s my temp mitigation.) on: March 22, 2018, 12:07:50 AM
Cloudflare has effectually locked me out since sometime yesterday—both of me.  I am posting this from the account under which I first got hit with it, almost 22 hours ago.  This time, it does not stop!

Well, it seems to have subsided sometime between about 18:30 and 22:30 hours (UTC).  If theymos did anything to make Cloudflare back off, thank you.

I hope this will not happen again; though if it does, I now have shell scripts to help deal with it.  Whereas in the long term, for this and other reasons, everybody should hope a better anti-DDoS solution can be found.  Part of my own proposal would be a large mallet, applied to the heads of DDoSers.

An absolute requirement of Javascript will drive away many of the types of people whom the forum should want to attract:  Privacy and security experts, cypherpunks, people for whom the word “crypto” means something other than get-rich-quick schemes or Paypal 2.0.  For my part, it is unacceptable to me in the long term.





I have noticed an increased amount of "Try again later" errors during the repatcha solving process (where you have to select vehicles and street signs which Google seems to be obsessed with for some reason). Looks like Tor nodes are getting banned again at a higher rate.

See reference upthread; and if you have any information from your experience which may be helpful, perhaps consider documenting it for the benefit of others on the Google lockout thread.  I suggest that you check the box to stay logged in, and save your cookies.  Basic instructions are referenced on that thread; see also Meretrix’s shell script above.

...I made myself a dedicated Bitcoin Forum “thing” on the day that I was forced to try seventeen (17) different Tor circuits before Google deigned to grant me a login CAPTCHA.  See “Google is locking Tor users out of Bitcointalk.org!”.  One of my Newbie rank posts!
1658  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Erotic Bitcoin fetish: On my precedent idea for sexy QR code (temporary) tattoos on: March 21, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
This topic has pushed somebody to get busy:


Because I am a tease:

Loading teaser...


Watch me if you want.

❤️ The Meretrix

Yes, that is actual photographic skin beneath the QR code—and it is not the only photographic material integrated into the image.

This is an inferior version of an idea I had some time ago
1659  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Joe's Signatureless Challenge: Win $25 ($10 for 2nd) + 8 Merits every week! on: March 20, 2018, 02:59:30 AM
For Week 3, at the eleventh hour last minute:

BitcoinTalk Username: nullius (#976210)
Starting Post Count (including this one): 907
Current Rank: Full Member
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My apologies for the delayed response; some things IRL have been pulling me away from the forum of late.

Congratulations to Toughit!  Also to flip4flop.  I had not seen you before; I will must needs take a peek at your post history.  I think that drawing attention to worthwhile authors is one of the substantial benefits of this contest.  Blue Tyrant, cheers on your honourable mention.





Joe, have you thought of using Google forms for application processing? This way, spam can be reduced and it'll also reduce your work, and you won't miss any participants too. Things become much clearer then.

My god, why didn't I think of this beforehand. You, sir, are awesome.

I'll be setting up a google form for future rounds (starting with Round 4 applications). Thanks for this!

I agree that an alternate means of collecting entries would make the thread much more readable; but I must ask, do Google Forms require Javascript?  (Or worse, a Google account?)  If so, I may not enter an application.  I don’t know how Google Forms work, since I avoid Google services as much as practicable.





Round 3 Winners, will you please post links to the posts that you would like for the merit sponsors to award your merit to?

Since I seem to be a bit tardy here, I must thank bill gator for having applied my prize to my same Dev & Tech debut post as Darkstar_ and BossMacko applied my award last week.

To address the substance of your question:

Many of my posts this week were made in controversy-related threads, and/or dealt with forum abusers.  Those are important in their own right, but of limited interest.  Setting those aside, I think that my best posts of general interest this week were:






Round 3 Merit Stats: This round, a total of 47 Merits were earned by 10 participants. Great job on earning those merits this week!

Well, I think I’ll need to up my game here. <g>
1660  Other / Meta / Quicksy Ness, Bizarro Edition (Ceterum censeo, Quickseller should kill himself.) on: March 19, 2018, 12:22:12 AM
As a side note, your anchor tags alone make better reading than half the posts in this thread.

Oh, no!  Are those not private!?  I had thought they were invisible, just like e-mail and ICQ.  I am exposed!





My source is not important. I am not wrong though, you can ask the relevant parties if you don't believe me.

I would note that Lauda was also bragging about not paying taxes on his moderator income, and he was not specifying about US taxes.

This is coming off as some bizarro, upside-down version of a wannabe Eliot Ness:  “Drat, I can’t get the cat on made-up charges of pill addiction, or non-existent sockpuppetting!  But I’ll definitely succeed by twisting words to convict for tax evasion in an unknown jurisdiction, which may or may not have an income tax with unspecified rules.  My source of ‘evidence’ is not important.”

Why, it’s exactly the sort of plan which the real Eliot Ness would hatch if he washed down a fistful of psychotropic pills with some moonshine, then decided to go after innocent people.

Press Photo: Quicksy Ness will now get Lauda for TAX EVASION!
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Code:
#ifdef QS_PSYCHOTIC_DELUSION

Quicksy Ness, please bring justice!

This forum is controlled by a
Lauda gang
, as documented by our resident
ethically mature
expert.

I myself have been a victim of the Lauda gang:

Yeah, the Lauda gang is fearsome.  I thought I was tough enough to survive a “beat-in” for the secret initiation, so I tried to join.  It turns out, Lauda does worse:  A “scratch-in” by cats!  I’m still bleeding from that; and worst of all, they decided that I was too wimpy.  At least they didn’t feed me to the lion—I’m thankful for that, but could Lauda be going soft?

Please stop the Lauda gang!  You will be the hero of the forum.

Code:
#endif /* QS_PSYCHOTIC_DELUSION */





42
I can neither confirm nor deny that this is my tax number. However, I am somewhat leaning to the side of it being my number. I'll let The Pharmacist, nullius, Mr. Michael Cassio or one of my many other alts continue handling the case. /s

Well, if you don’t deny that 42 is your tax number, then that must be true.  Sorry, the proof by non-denial is undeniable per QS-logic.  I will now commence searching all the world’s tax databases for a tax number of 42, so I can dox me you.





So you really like your story that Lauda is a tax evading sockpuppeting pill addict but you don't have proof or sources who could corroborate that. Is there any chance you could fuck off until you do? Rhetorical question.

You forgot:  Lauda is a tax evading sockpuppeting pill addict who turned you into a newt.  Even if you got better, you should not let the crime go unpunished!

Moreover, I have absolute proof that Lauda is guilty of the worst crime of all:  Lauda is Lauda.  The heinousness of being Lauda is evident from Quickseller’s tireless pursuit of justice; for no sane person would spend so much time trying to find a person guilty of anything, if that person were not guilty of everything simply by existing.  Quickseller’s therapist PMed me to warn that he may actually commit suicide if I point out the obvious make indelicate remarks about his sanity; and I would not wish to commit an act of violence.  Therefore, Quickseller must be sane, and the existential state of being Lauda must be an act of guilt.  Q(S).E.D.

My source for proof of Lauda’s identity as Lauda is some guy with a Greek name; I forget which one.  The contrary argument that the Lauda whom we observe is only a shadow cast by some unseen, unknown Lauda may seem colourable to residents of the.nym.zone, or to anyone who remembers that this is the Internet.  However, Quickseller is a trusted philosopher on this forum who no doubt has “sources” which can even accurately describe Lauda as a thing-in-itself.  A thing which hurts spammers and scammers, then meows.





...ceterum censeo, Quickseller should kill himself!
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