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1361  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Jürgen on: March 19, 2020, 02:23:14 AM
You are the one who somehow managed to imply...

I see...

I was going to chalk up your twisted way of interpreting my words to your admitted lack of facility with the English language.  However, I then saw what you added to your prior reply after I replied to it:

EDIT: Forgot about the trolling, sorry nullius (half of the introduction is sufficient for a good description of your posting style in our tittle discussion)

That’s the second time that you have accused me of trolling.  So, let’s get this straight:

  • You:  Hit Godwin-in-one with the coronavirus—and belligerently insist that those who disagree with you just don’t get it, because this can be understood only by those of German or Austrian background, which (as you know through clairvoyance) anyone who disagrees with you must not be.  (I thereby provide to you a Wikipedia link, because you seem to be using Wikipedia to learn about basic n00b concepts pertaining to Internet discussion.)
  • Me:  Pointed out that you’re full of it.  Also that you are ignorant of history—your historiography of WWII causes is arrant nonsense.  And check my post history:  Not a troll.

You accuse me of trolling?

LOL, *plonk*.  ← Usenet jargon meaning that I am killfiling you.



Humour note:  My first objection to OutOfMemory’s horrible analogy was titled, “TRUTH: Coronavirus was created in Hitler’s secret lab, hidden in hollow Earth!!”  I extended OutOfMemory’s absurd analogy to make it even more absurder, for funny hyperbole plus a shot at the idiots pushing the “bioweapon” nonsense in the other thread.



Either I caught mad cow disease from the Nazi-bioengineered coronavirus, or eddie13 said something intentionally funny:

That's it..
I'm calling china and tellin them that it's actually germany/austria's fault..
Also to rename it the hitler virus..

Actually, that’s not a bad idea:  Such rhetoric makes about as much sense as much of the other garbage that’s being passed around.

The difference is that you are saying it as a joke, and not as Jürgen-style “I am ashamed and angry” browbeating delivered with tedious scolding about how people who are not of German or Austrian background can’t understand, or I don’t get it, etc., ad nauseam.

What with you being a self-proclaimed “basically am a jew” (stated by you under protection of America’s First Amendment, in terms illegal for OutOfMemory), you would probably be amused by some of the Jürgen skits involving belligerently unhinged apologies to Jews.  Search Youtube—or simply incite OutOfMemory to explain to you how “angry and ashamed” he is.  Due to our history.  Oh, and if you disagree with anything he says about that, it means you just don’t get it—and you are a troll!

Since you are American, you may not be aware that this is a stereotype in Europe, both on the Continent and in the U.K.—thus the skits on British TV.  Unfortunately, as is the case with many stereotypes, there are a significant number of Germans (and Austrians) who behave this way.  Most of them don’t.  But the stereotype sticks, because (0) the ones who are that way are very vocal about it, and (1) political grudges, of course.



Now, I have covered this tangential subject in some detail.  I tend toward approaching such matters thoughtfully, instead of tossing off an invocation of Godwin’s Law to shut down the discussion.  My mistake, I suppose:  Godwin’s Law exists for a reason.

I will therefore decline to carry this discussion further—unless somebody says something peculiarly amusing, such as that Germans should apologize to China and pay reparations for the Hitler Virus.  LOL.
1362  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Forking and flippening the gov-scrip economy on: March 19, 2020, 12:52:20 AM
This is beautiful; I don’t want to detract by dissecting it, so I will keep my reply short:

Thought I'd mention that I'm using Bitcoin for what it was intended... not as a get-rich-moderately-quickly investment vehicle (although it has actually done quite well as that) nor a retail purchase currency (coffees?) but rather as a fast, reliable, cheap and secure way to send money around the world.

Since we decided it would be more prudent to wait out the Covid-19 emergency and panic by staying in our remote jungle village instead of dealing with high-risk airports and cities, I had to figure out a way to take care of financial obligations at home while not having a bank account.

There is also the fact that they may be closing the only highway into our village to keep tourists from bringing Covid-19 in. We  might be truly isolated, a whole community quarantined. We have no landline or cell phone service but usually have internet access. Postal service is almost non-existent taking months for delivery.

Bitcoin to the rescue. A friend lent me 3 bitcoins. Sent him an address with a QR code and he sent me 2.5btc. The other 0.5 he's going to sell (ouch!) and use to pay my rent and bills and put the rest on my credit card. I prefer for them to owe me money and not the other way around.
Hopefully by next month I'll only have to sell a lot less than half a coin to pay my expenses.

Meanwhile I'm sipping a cold Tecate and thawing out some imported beef while my lovely Mexican cutie is making taquitos out of the leftover chicken. We have lots of TP and there doesn't seem to be any shortage of anything yet. It's as if Covid-19 didn't even exist here.

Life is good. Thank you Bitcoin.

The Real Flippening would be when the actual Bitcoin economy picks up, and takes over substantial real-life functions from the economy based on government-issued toilet paper.

When a stash of Bitcoin helps you to survive a real, dire emergency, it is a happy moment because Bitcoin helped you, and a sad moment because too many ways of “spending” it are either directly or indirectly dumping it for fiat.

When you can spend Bitcoin to another Bitcoiner, who will in turn spend it to yet another Bitcoiner—that is the golden moment of Bitcoin maximalism!

I know that everybody here understands this on such a level that I seem to have stated only the obvious.  But the concept needs a name, and a concise model of thinking.  I propose The Real Flippening:  Bitcoin flippening over fiat bit by bit.  Hardforking the government-controlled economy without consensus official mandate.  The generalized concept of a fork attack need not only work against Bitcoin.

It is another reason for each individual Bitcoiner to push for adoption.




And in good humour, it seems. :-)
1363  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Jürgen on: March 19, 2020, 12:31:21 AM
...
 ...  
 ...

Dude, you were right, you're somewhat biased towards me.
The link to my profile page...
I was trying to suck out a dried fruit, obviously.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

You are the one who somehow managed to imply that the coronavirus outbreak was the fault of Austrians and/or Germans, by a nonsensical direct analogy to completely irrelevant historical events.  I object to that.  Don’t you wax self-righteous toward me, now—especially not when my initial response showed insight into German and Austrian post-WWII cultural issues, instead of simply invoking Godwin’s Law and calling you a troll.
1364  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] The rare elixir of true love is packed on dry ice on: March 19, 2020, 12:22:34 AM
Yep. Guilty of the 60's hippie part. I was a beatnik before that. Maynard G. Krebs was my hero when I was a schoolboy. Got the scars on my liver to prove it.

I never said I was old and wise though. You just assumed that part.  Now I'm middle-aged (in my 70s) and I can still be foolish.

Well, I presume that having finally hit middle age, you finally learned to respect the opinions of people who were called “conservative” when you were a know-it-all youngster.  Now, if only the youngsters would listen to you...  I am sufficiently old-fashioned to blame modernity itself.  The modern mentality.  Now, get off my lawn.

Quote from: Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 260 (set-up for The Genealogy of Morals)
It is the powerful who know how to honour, it is their art, their domain for invention.  The profound reverence for age and for tradition—all law rests on this double reverence,—the belief and prejudice in favour of ancestors and unfavourable to newcomers, is typical in the morality of the powerful; and if, reversely, men of “modern ideas” believe almost instinctively in “progress” and the “future,” and are more and more lacking in respect for old age, the ignoble origin of these “ideas” has complacently betrayed itself thereby.



Never got herpes but I did need tetracyclin and Quellada on the odd occasion (another great boomer invention... the sexual revolution). Those were the days... after the invention of the birth control pill and before the discovery of AIDS.

Before the discovery of coronavirus, too, it seems.  Well, don’t worry:  The hedonists nowadays can get their jollies on Pornhub, just as they have their “Friends” on Facebook:  Without human contact.

I suppose that such a means of itch-scratching will probably not make many babies; but as you observe, that outcome is specifically avoided, anyway.

Thanks for the gin. Hope you don't mind me splashing a little Dolin's and dropping an olive in it. As for sharing bottles, think of it as un-thickened alcohol-based hand sanitizer.

Here: have some Farmacias Paris "Alcohol Puro 500 ml 03500111" in a recycled Agua Purificada bottle with a laser-printed label. Kills all the nasties... viruses, bacteria, even intestinal parasites. Yum.

Ah, a man of refined tastes:  An olive in your pharma rubbing-liquor and a splash of... whazzat, I gott it backwerds?  Dammn I’m drunk.  That winston chap did warn it’s like a dose of nitric acid, that Victory Gin.  Welcome to the future...  happening now, much better than Orwell ever imagined, and I sez BETTER because I love Big Brother.

* nullius sheds tears of love for Big Brother (right before the bullet)
1365  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Jürgen on: March 18, 2020, 11:45:48 PM
[— excruciatingly tortuous attempt to justify a bad analogy, made worse by an attempt to explain to me stuff that I know 100x better than he does —]
There:
So there was Hitler, born in Austria, infected almost the whole of Europe.
Today there is Tyrol, infecting half of Europe with SARS-CoV-2.

You win the prize for the stupidest rhetoric of the day.  And today, the competition is extraordinary!
Here:
I see, you still didn't get behind the connection of the comparison. As i said before, it's complicated.
almost comically stereotypical national-guilt nonsense

For privacy reasons, I will not disclose my own nationality (or even my timezone),  But with sincere apologies to my German friends (who are NOT LIKE THIS), I think that I just met the real Jürgen.

Jürgen the german OutOfMemory in london
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EAuaNnsXy4

(With thanks to my English friends.  I don’t watch TV.)

I just reread OutOfMemory’s posts in Jürgen’s voice.  Much better that way. :-)

There:
I feel ashamed.

EDIT: And angry.

Oh, I get it, anonymous screen name who implicitly claims to be of German or Austrian background:  “‘Due to our history’, we need to somehow make sure to blame the coronavirus on Germans.”

That comparison with Hitler is hard to understand for people that have no german or austrian background.

Here:
I see, you still didn't get behind the connection of the comparison. As i said before, it's complicated.

[...]

...you're trying to project onto me



I hope my limited, non-native english did not create more room for misunderstanding than i already created by said comparison.

No problem.  Do you understand what I mean by saying in English, “due to our history”?  If you do, then you should have known that I understood you completely, straight from my first reply to you.

N.b. that regardless of what languages I do or don’t speak, I have friends all over the world, including in Germany and Austria.  Although they are highly intelligent, many of them have English skills far worse than yours.  I am accustomed to that.

Adolf was a promising austrian artist (painter) when he was young. He applied at the university of arts in vienna, but his portfolio didn't include enough drawings of heads, as the  auditor wrote in his notes. This was the start of young hitler turning from a bohemian artist into a frustrated working class member, who got caught by antisemitic speech and decided to engange in politics.

Now, for the sake of the comparison i drew, are you willing to accept that many cases of Covid19 in Europe AND the misery that hitler brought to Europe BOTH were caused by a single bad decision of an austrian principal, in both cases.

Since you are such an expert on this bit of history, quelle surprise that you forgot the part where he was directed to apply to architecture school.  Also, no, I am NOT willing to accept what you said:  Your whole historiography of WWII causes is bollocks.

I do realize that “WWII happened because Hitler didn’t get into art school” is indeed a quite popular version of TV-level history; and coming from you, with the surreal twist of pinning it on “a single bad decision of an Austrian principal”, it does work perfectly in Jürgen’s voice.

I feel ashamed.

EDIT: And angry.

Now, back on topic please

Indeed.  I have made my point.  I suggest that you try to think it over, instead of presuming to treat me to a lecture about all of this.  Though Youtube has more Jurgen videos, if you are inclined to continue this discussion.
1366  Economy / Speculation / [WO] nullius is a bear on technocracy on: March 18, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
BTW, I don't know about Bill Gates in particular, but I do think that me need a mixed government: technocrats and lawyers, not just lawyers (as the current setup).

WTF are you talking about?  The whole current system is technocratic in the extreme—and that’s a bad thing.




I see, you still didn't get behind the connection of the comparison. As i said before, it's complicated.

No, I get it all too well.  That is why I called you out on it.

You believe i'm a bear because ONE btctalk member said so?
C'mon  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I admit that I read what Lambie said with a strong bias against you, due to your having just engaged in almost comically stereotypical national-guilt nonsense, and then defended it with nothing more than (0) calling me a troll, and (1) saying that I didn’t get it.  (And you are still defending that analogy...)  If you’re not a bear, then I (very narrowly) apologize for having misjudged you on that particular point.  My mistake.  I will watch your posts more carefully before saying such things.

Maybe you're just as wrong on that as with the rest you're trying to project onto me?

As the only person on this forum on the Internet who has been accused of being both Hitler (literally, Adolf Hitler himself) and a Mossad agent (yup, that’s (((me)))), I think I can safely say that it is you who is projecting with anything about not getting it.




Obviously, the virus is a bioweapon created by the South Koreans!  Who would have thunk it?

* nullius panics over this news of the South Korean attempt to TAKE OVER THE WORLD
1367  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Literal pornography (πορνογράφος): “Stimulus” for prostitutes! on: March 18, 2020, 07:45:36 PM
One other tweet that made a lot of sense:



He forgot about Lambos...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Come to think about it, we are going to need more than a piddly $1k.

Those cheapskate fucks!!!!!    Don't care about the needs of the people.  Angry Angry Angry

The tweeter is a cheap fuck, literally.  Only $150?  You get what you pay for; and weak hands jerk off.

That reminds me of the most important question for T&A-TA:  What will be the effect of “social distancing” on the livelihoods of filles de joie?  Phallically suggestive candlestick charts would be helpful for analysing how much this no-human-contact clusterfuck will suck for those whose market is market penetration of themselves.

On the one hand, with their market depth all banged up, I think they need big stimulus.  Hard times.  It all comes to liquidity.

On the other, maybe not.  Wise men know that the oldest profession will also be the last existing profession.  Thus, this is one market where you can never lose your shirt.

Either that, or an expression of the fact that you think with the little head.

* nullius writes his seminal works with one hand—and with the other...
1368  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Coronavirus: PRISON BREAK! on: March 18, 2020, 07:00:54 PM

They should start with the inmates on death row.  At least, releasing them should lessen the probability that convicts under penalty of death will take up precious ER beds for lifesaving measures.

Next, they need to let out all the poor, innocent people red-tagged by Lauda, the bad-cop kitty.

Of course, people convicted of serious crimes and domestic terrorism (such as underreporting taxable income, or making de minimis mistakes on gun purchase forms) must remain behind bars, for the public safety.

I will avoid mentioning why or how American prisons are notoriously efficient places to contract HIV.
1369  Economy / Speculation / [WO] The rare elixir of true love is packed on dry ice on: March 18, 2020, 06:29:14 PM
It’s time to start drinking!

Do they explain how to get liquor in a liquor ban?

I'm not worried about getting sick, I'm worried about maintaining one of my longest running hobbies.
You f*cking alcoholic 😘
May be you can ask this question. That young doctor seems very knowledgeable.

Quoted wildly out of context for the sake of humour:
I haven't seen a doctor in years - even though I probably should - but thanks for your concern.

Don’t panic, nutildah.  All Oceana will soon be flooded with the needed fuel for a perpetual war against Eurasia Eastasia Eurasia Eastasia Eurasia (why, yes: my crystal ball says that tensions between America and China are a feint, and the real risk of war is in Eurasia).

There's now talk of universal basic income. This means that very soon we will be a leading exporter of poorly made tractors, sour cabbage and Victory Gin.



Dry Ice

I think that is now the canonical expression of true love:  You will risk contracting coronavirus so that you can come closer than officially mandated social-distancing distance.

Either that, or an expression of the fact that you think with the little head.



Anybody notice how it is now considered healthy to be isolated from other human beings?

 I don't believe any of us doubt your ability to compose a lengthy disquisition on the differences between healthy and prudent.  Are you trolling us, Nullius?

If by “trolling”, you mean a “using ambiguously sarcastic,* ‘Hah, hah—only serious!’ style of observations to incite people to think,” then yes.  Politically dangerous satirists have done not dissimilarly throughout history.  There is no harm in observing this openly:  The shepherds are not as stupid as the sheep, anyway.

No matter what I do, 99% of people will miss 99% of the deeper substance in my posts.  I may as well make the form entertaining!  Those who can get it, will get it, nevertheless.  E.g., this is one of the top-ten most serious observations that I have ever made on this forum:

All Oceana will soon be flooded with the needed fuel for a perpetual war against Eurasia Eastasia Eurasia Eastasia Eurasia (why, yes: my crystal ball says that tensions between America and China are a feint, and the real risk of war is in Eurasia).

99% of people will simply chuckle, and scroll on.


* Ambiguously sarcastic, only in the sense that you must think hard about which direction my sarcasm is aimed in.  Many of my posts could be read both ways—including the one that you quoted.  —  Unambiguously sarcastic, in the sense that many of my most dangerously serious observations are undoubtedly packed for delivery on dry-ice sarcasm.


On Socially Distant Networking:  “Too Sober, Didn’t Read”

Anybody notice how it is now considered healthy to be isolated from other human beings?

What? How about 2 thumbs on a cellphone? Isn't that "social"?

🛑 Stop, citizen!  You are too sober:  You look like you’ve had a bit too much to think.  For the sake of your mental health, a peace officer from the Ministry of Love Social-Distancing “Social” Networking will soon enroll you in re-education about the virtues of being an isolated individual atom, ever alone in a crowd, a self-esteemed snowflake adrift in a blizzard—i.e., the perfectly docile and powerless slave.

* nullius hands Jimbo the bottle of Victory Gin—and yes, I just took a swig straight out of it—and I think that if you share drinks with strangers, you should generally be more worried about herpes simplex than about coronavirus.  No, I don’t want the bottle back.  Keep it, with my compliments.  You said that you are old and wise, which means that you were once young and foolish—and that means you are at high risk of having been a 60s hippie—and that would mean a high risk that you carry oral herpes.  No offense.  Keep the bottle; it’s almost empty, anyway.
1370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 on: March 18, 2020, 05:31:42 PM
This is a thread to watch for factual “ground truth” reports (which should be interpreted without panic as collected from those who now having daily experience dealing with a select set of the worst cases).

Doc, there is much misinformation out there.  Would you please offer some practical tips for those who may need to do self-care?

I am not asking for individual medical advice, but rather, for general, practical, medically sound suggestions that are not arrant nonsense.  Given the overload of the medical system and the need for triage, you know that many people will have no choice but to handle their own infections without medical assistance.  I suggest that such people should have access to better information than is being passed in many forum posts that I have been seeing.

Thanks in advance.
1371  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Whack quack whining wall of shame (tvbcof) on: March 18, 2020, 11:24:54 AM
Poor whiny self entitled little bitch

Excellent description for yourself.  It’s called projecting.

Now poor put-upon Dr(?) Oileo is boo-hoo about people not using 'his' space 'appropriately' and has locked his thread.

Perhaps he does not have time to waste deleting trash left by idiots whose ignorance is exceeded only by their rudeness?

Real doctors are busy.  Especially now.  And in that context, your peremptory demand that he spend time dealing with your narcissistic tantrum is peculiarly repulsive.  You are seriously criticizing a doctor for locking a thread to prevent trolling during a time of, um, a shortage of doctors pretty much everywhere!?  WTF?

There is no way I would trust a 'privacy mixer' product pumped by someone of his ilk.

Another bitch move on your part.

FYI, Dr. o_e_l_e_o also has high technical competence in Bitcoin privacy matters.
1372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Whack quack whining wall of shame (tvbcof) on: March 18, 2020, 11:05:29 AM
That's known as 'Stockholm syndrome' my friend.

Its known as "common fucking sense," something that you are sorely lacking.

I doubt that either you or the noob above you

I know that I hit just the right spot when it’s too chicken to say my name.

Censoring my name now, are you?  I noticed you doing something similar to Dr. o_e_l_e_o on the other thread.  In colloquial terms, that post was a bitch move—and so is this whole thread.

You whine about “censorship” because Dr. o_e_l_e_o created a self-mod thread.  Yet apparently, you do not want for others to have the opportunity to read his thread and decide for themselves:  You did not link to it there, and did not link to it here in OP.  Why not?  Are you afraid that people may decide that Dr. o_e_l_e_o is credible, and you are not credible at all.

* nullius punctuates rhetorical questions with a period.  That was not actually a question.

can pin-point a single thing I have said that was 'irrational on almost any post on this board.  It's not surprising that you don't even try.

Indeed, it is difficult to pin-point a single irrational statement by you, just as it is difficult to pin-point a drop of water in a sea.  I picked two:  Your accusation that people who use forum features provided by the forum administration are somehow “leeching” off of forum administration; and your cries of “censorship” because Dr. o_e_l_e_o does not allow arrant nonsense to be dumped in a thread that he created for serious discussion.

Having demonstrated that you were completely irrational in (0) the first paragraph of your OP, and (1) the alleged purpose of this thread, I didn’t waste my time with the rest of what you said.

you guys and other normies

The trouble for U.S. boot lickers

Anyone who has seen my post history knows that you’re just trolling with that.



I haven't seen a doctor in years - even though I probably should - but thanks for your concern.

[...]

I don't necessarily trust doctors, I don't take an adamant stance of going against their advice as a rule of thumb.

You sound like me there.  I must have infected you with the Nullian mind-virus.



Hey, nutildah.  Evidently, we are now “you guys”.  Perhaps the “Normies” Gang?  Based on my absolutely rock-solid record of always parroting goodthinkful opinions approved by the U.S. government, and never daring thoughtcrime, I insist that I should be the Supreme Leader; but I am willing to fight you for that.

...oh no, I may have just been kicked out.  I said something that I can predict with arithmetical certainty Dr. o_e_l_e_o will disagree with!  Surely, he will now censor me out of existence.

I have long fancied sitting down with an anti-vaxer, looking him deadpan in the eye, and telling him that yes, I fully agree that all childhood vaccinations should be stopped:  Vaccination removes the necessary selective pressure for a healthy, robust, finely-tuned immune system—and substitutes in its place the empty hybris of a supposition that humans can cure all diseases.

Hey, anti-vaxers, here is a challenge for you:  I will publicly support you, if you will be the first to step up and declare that much though we may wish otherwise, we need some more dead kids in each generation—to prevent unlimited mass suffering and potential extinction in all the generations yet unborn.

I need not reach the question of how bad the side effects of vaccines are or aren’t.  Of course, all medicines have side effects.  Whether vaccines are benign except in a few rare, unfortunate cases, or causing widespread injuries about which The Truth is suppressed by The Medical Establishment, the answer is irrelevant to me.

[...]  I don’t need to know medicine:  I know history.  People used to have eight, ten, or even twenty (yes, literally, twenty) kids with the knowledge that some would die, and others would survive...

tvbcof, want to take up my challenge here, where I can’t use self-mod powers to “censor” you?  Stop being a wimp.  Speak up for The Truth!
1373  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Whack quack whining wall of shame (tvbcof) on: March 18, 2020, 08:51:44 AM
Some dick-heads would rather leach off of another person's work and use another person's forum as opposed to creating their own.  They do this with 'self-moderated' threads.

Yeah, right?  People are such leeches when they use the forum features thoughtfully provided by the forum’s administration.  Why doesn’t theymos stop dick-heads from leeching?  He must hate that!  How do those leeches stop him from disabling self-mod on every forum (as it is disabled in Meta, inter alia), or autobanning everybody who uses the self-mod checkbox?  Anyway, I am sure that the forum’s administration would much prefer it if everybody who uses self-mod would instead go away, and create their own forums.

Since you already showed a total inability to think logically, I will just snip most of your nonsense and skip down to this:

censorship

Buy yourself a dictionary and learn the meaning of basic English words, before you even begin to think about opining on medical topics.

P.S., don’t you dare try to censor my expression of my opinion on your trust page.
1374  Economy / Speculation / [WO] True love on: March 18, 2020, 07:12:40 AM
@satoshi_babe
I bought some #Bitcoin  right now, will it go back down now ? 🙃
[...]

I don’t know to be honest, but if it doesn’t I will.


 Cheesy Cool

Aren't you afraid of germs, LFC?



 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I think that is now the canonical expression of true love:  You will risk contracting coronavirus so that you can come closer than officially mandated social-distancing distance.

Either that, or an expression of the fact that you think with the little head.



Anybody notice how it is now considered healthy to be isolated from other human beings?
1375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2020, 07:07:14 AM
@OP, this poll is typical of democracy:  It offers an exclusive choice between wrong options.

Quote from: Wall Observer
Poll

Question:    What causes you more fear? (credit:Micg)

🔘 Coronavirus
🔘 Bitcoin

[Submit Vote]

Please add this option:  “Panic”.

I do not fear the coronavirus.  As I have said, either I will die, or I won’t.  Meanwhile, I am alive.  I will take rational measures to increase my chances of staying that way.  I will not fear the virus.

I sure as hell am not caused fear by Bitcoin!  WTF.  Bitcoin makes me happy.  It is without exaggeration the only thing in my life that is going right, at this particular moment.  Everything else is hardforked without consensus, due to mass-panic.  That is why I have retreated into WO for the past few days, to run with the bulls.  Something is still right in the world.  Go, Bitcoin. go!

I fear the panic, or more precisely, the foreseeable results of the panic.

At this point, I am nearly panicked over panic.

I need an appropriate poll option, so that I can exercise my Right to Vote.  Or is it my Right to Submit Vote?  Or my Right to Submit?  Hmmm.

Thanks.
1376  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Trumpery. — Nullcoin creates infinite money with zero inflation. on: March 18, 2020, 06:53:37 AM
Innovations in campaign finance reform:  Bankroll your own campaign for your first term, and then use tax money to buy everybody’s votes for your second term.  Now, that’s leverage!  If Democrats whine, point out that they’re the ones who want UBI or something like it.  What you are doing is totally different, because you wave so many American flags that you are definitely against Communism—so much against it, that you will spend the next four years building it even more, instead of building that wall thing, or rebuilding American industry, or whatever else you promised as boob-bait so long ago that insofar as the stereotypical American attention span is concerned, it is ancient history.

MAGA!

* nullius plays 0D chess (check username)

Try this.  It compiles, and you can even run it:

The secret proprietary code for Nullian Coin, which is so superior to Bitcoin that I will not let anybody have any:
Code:
#include <stddef.h>
#include "/dev/null"

int
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{

return (*(int*)NULL);
}
See my avatar:  It is the secret formula for creating infinite money with zero inflation.  My design for a perpetual motion machine is too complex to fit in the margin of this post.
1377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - April 2013 on: March 18, 2020, 06:46:26 AM
WO post #5:
Volume around $50 was insane. The resistance at this price will now be over 9000, or something.

So, when do you predict that we may test $9000 again?

I’m not one of those “MOON!” people.  I think that outlandish price predictions are damaging to Bitcoin:  They attract get-rich-quick FOMO that quickly turns to weak-hands panic.  Frankly, I would rather see slow, steady growth driven by growth in adoption of Bitcoin for actual use as money—both for transactions, and for long-term HODLing of savings.  Those two functions are indeed intertwined.

That being said, now that we have crossed the $9000 mark many times, I think this is reasonable to ask.  Also, $10k.  That is a psychological point of great ovine import.  If we can just get solid support at $10k, maybe after the halvening, then that would be a good starting point for a period of slow, steady growth with the lessened volatility that would in turn facilitate more adoption.  What do you think, TA wizards?

Of course, I have hereby committed a common fallacy:  Using the dollar as the measure of Bitcoin’s value.  If we soon see the effects of rapid dollar inflation (as seems a real possibility), then Bitcoin may indeed soon hit $1,000,000, without gaining any purchase power—just because the dollar crashed, and a $100 bill now buys a loaf of bread (if that).  Hyperinflation could also quickly give us quadrillion-dollar Bitcoins, or whatever; but that would not mean much, if it may also signal the global breakdown of technological civilization, and thus, the loss of the Internet.

A moderate amount of dollar inflation is also built into the rise since 2013:  $50 in 2013 dollars would be worth significantly more today.  Not >100x more!
1378  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Nullian Rule 34: Phryne now accepts Bitcoin! on: March 18, 2020, 03:47:38 AM
You might want to stock some fertile young females for your geritopia there Jimbo

Though my body is not that old, my females are ancient and timeless.  By the power vested in me by the god of Bitcoin, I have officially declared them to be Bitcoinesses:

You want in?  You wish.
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Most importantly, as a cult leader, I have the prerogative of taking advantage of... attractive female followers in other ways

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The actual fence is much higher,
and it works both ways.

And though my thus effort with alia was mislaid in the sense of the best-laid plans of mice and men, I turn lemons into lemonade:  I accidentally became the subject of the forum’s most famous sex scandal!  Two years later, people are still discussing it, and personally inquiring for the details.  —Mostly just from curiosity, or to tease me.  Mostly.

[...]  Nullius in alia, Nullius aliorum aliorsum:  Cum errore inter alia, contra artem amatoriam, pane crisandi, circensibus irrumationis.



you have to keep reminding me

Phryne will make it all better.  Though I warn you, you will not have much Bitcoin left after that.  Look up what she offered to do for Thebes from her personal pocket money; she did not become so wealthy by providing intimate companionship for free.  Now that she takes Bitcoin, expect for her to be soon eating the whales for breakfast.  What would you pay for something priceless?

(Lilith is from a different culture.  She does not take your coins—only your soul and your seed.)




you should totally set up a threesome

#nohomo

No, I will not let you watch my threesome with Phryne and Lilith.  Well, not unless you pay good BTC.  How much do you have?



The old are hardly wise. :-)

But the young are foolish. :-)
1379  Economy / Speculation / [WO] Sklavenmoral on: March 18, 2020, 03:13:28 AM
US needs to be particularly careful/swift because of all the obesity and medically-dependent that are highly vulnerable.

So, ruin the world for strong, healthy people for the purpose of protecting sick people and stereotypical American fat slobs?

Don’t make me start dropping Nietzsche in WO.  (I am famous for that in Reputation and Meta.)



If there ever arises a genetically engineered bioweapon that selectively kills people who fear death, nullius did it.

I will call it the CatCH-22 virus.



Damn, this thread moves fast.

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I've got an idea. Why don't we quarantine  all the old and wise.

Then the young and stupid can infect each other. Great way to fight the idiocracy.

 8)

I am neither young nor healthy.  Without disclosing personal details that may compromise my privacy, I will note that I am at significantly higher than average risk of death from coronavirus.

However, as I have said repeatedly, life is risk.  It would be awfully hypocritical of me to preach about courage, then turn around and demand that healthy young people destroy the world and embrace unlimited tyranny because I got panicked about a personal risk to myself.

My first public message about the coronavirus:
Dear readers of the forum:

Some of you will die from the coronavirus.  (—Some few of you:  The virus has low lethality except to the aged or otherwise frail.)  The virus may kill me, too; maybe, maybe not.  That is acceptable:  Life is risk, and death is a part of life.  My only sadness is that sometimes, the worst befalls the best of people.

* nullius will now hammer the post button until it goes through
1380  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2020, 02:43:35 AM
Bears dont want to fight me. They have slunken back to their caves.  Cool

They’ll be dead when this Corona Virus scam has passed.

Yes. Coronavirus panic gave Bitcoin its biggest down day ever in dollar terms. I have no doubt that as the weak kneed panic subsides we are gonna see the biggest up day ever.

Fuck you for making me sad that I don’t have any significant fiat for buying Bitcoin in the dip.  :'-(

* nullius always feels that way when we hit a bear market

Edit:  Doubly sad that I didn’t buy mindrust’s coins.  If I had, I would offer them back to him later at a moderate penalty for the panic.  I almost want to give him some Bitcoin, a trivial amount, just to stop him from being a nocoiner.  My problem is that in a few years, that “trivial amount” may look like jojo’s old $13/BTC sales.  Yes, I hoard.
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