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April 11, 2019, 01:50:53 AM
Last edit: April 11, 2019, 02:41:52 AM by notbatman
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Black holes are fake news, research flat earth!

Research the Sagnac Experiment and how the Dufour & Prunier replication took rotating frames of reference into account and falsified special relativity.



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April 11, 2019, 09:50:20 AM
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Black holes are fake news, research flat earth!

Research the Sagnac Experiment and how the Dufour & Prunier replication took rotating frames of reference into account and falsified special relativity.





Ok, let me research it. https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_can_a_Sagnac_Interferometer_see_the_rotation_of_the_earth_but_a_Michaelson_Interferometer_cant_see_orbital_speed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect

Welp, it says nothing about a flat earth, in fact it says it detects the rotation of the earth.

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April 11, 2019, 10:26:20 AM
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^^^ your first link is garbage:

"We've picked up some unusual traffic from your network and have temporarily blocked access from your IP address."

The Michaelson interferometer was 10x more sensative than it needed to be to detect if the earth was rotating. So unless you've got any specific arguments from that site you're just spamming garbage links that are making false claims.

As for the wiki link it's also trash because it fails to address the fact the Dufour & Prunier replication took rotating frames of reference into account and falsified special relativity.
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April 11, 2019, 10:27:46 AM
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^^^ your first link is garbage:

"We've picked up some unusual traffic from your network and have temporarily blocked access from your IP address."

The Michaelson interferometer was 10x more sensative than it needed to be to detect if the earth was rotating. So unless you've got any specific arguments from that site you're just spamming garbage links that are making false claims.

As for the wiki link it's also trash because it fails to address the fact the Dufour & Prunier replication took rotating frames of reference into account and falsified special relativity.

And you know this how? Did you do the experiments yourself? How do you know Dufour and prunier replication was accurate? Are you a physicist?

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April 11, 2019, 11:00:31 AM
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^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.
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April 11, 2019, 11:44:57 AM
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^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.

Because... you say so? Where is the evidence for that? I googled what you said and I saw no results supporting your statements, even if there was 1 or 2 sites somewhere saying that, why should we trust them? Are you a scientist? How are you judging their results?

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April 11, 2019, 01:57:23 PM
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^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.

Noo sta-reek, sma-tree, LOL:

https://www.rt.com/news/405678-flat-earth-theory-space-video/

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Watch notbatman losing his mind over the first picture of a black hole.

''An international scientific team on Wednesday announced a milestone in astrophysics – the first-ever photo of a black hole – using a global network of telescopes to gain insight into celestial objects with gravitational fields so strong no matter or light can escape.

The team’s observations of the black hole at the center of Messier 87, a massive galaxy in the nearby Virgo galaxy cluster, lend strong support to the theory of general relativity put forward in 1915 by physicist Albert Einstein to explain the laws of gravity and their relation to other natural forces.''

https://globalnews.ca/news/5149768/black-hole-photo/

No, we just laugh at this fake baloney image. I knew that astargath the top 3rd. globo guy would believe this is real. Government and monkey man science can't lie to you.

Meanwhile already debunked with style, even more debunking videos will come along, don't worry:

First Ever Black Hole Image EXPOSED (2019): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olmWRmXXAZo

Some comments from people that have eyes to see:
"Looks like sauron the lord of the rings"i see youuu lol"
"The photo looks like a cadesent old light bulb with a heavy filter on it"
"Looks like the 3 sixes used on CERN logo"
"The only black hole CNN can show that is real is Dom Lemon"
"This all looks like inverted satanic worship of Ketu the Black Sun. An observable node here on Earth. By using an image of Ketu, as Einstein's Black hole, they are both subverting the narrative & censoring the past. This "discovery" comes at an awfully convenient time for the GlobeEarthers".
"I once sharted and left this exact image in my underwear"


Bonus lesson for badecker: Atheist Frank Zindler admits that The Bible says flat earth: https://youtu.be/HuCA4rIX4cE?t=2171

I give credit for that atheist guy, at least he is honest, but you badecker are dishonest (if in any case you believe what the Word of God really says).

God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that this was good (pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it. (AMP.version)

Get lost with your Copernicus and nasa, repent.

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April 11, 2019, 08:19:14 PM
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Watch notbatman losing his mind over the first picture of a black hole.

''An international scientific team on Wednesday announced a milestone in astrophysics – the first-ever photo of a black hole – using a global network of telescopes to gain insight into celestial objects with gravitational fields so strong no matter or light can escape.

The team’s observations of the black hole at the center of Messier 87, a massive galaxy in the nearby Virgo galaxy cluster, lend strong support to the theory of general relativity put forward in 1915 by physicist Albert Einstein to explain the laws of gravity and their relation to other natural forces.''

https://globalnews.ca/news/5149768/black-hole-photo/

No, we just laugh at this fake baloney image. I knew that astargath the top 3rd. globo guy would believe this is real. Government and monkey man science can't lie to you.

Meanwhile already debunked with style, even more debunking videos will come along, don't worry:

First Ever Black Hole Image EXPOSED (2019): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olmWRmXXAZo

Some comments from people that have eyes to see:
"Looks like sauron the lord of the rings"i see youuu lol"
"The photo looks like a cadesent old light bulb with a heavy filter on it"
"Looks like the 3 sixes used on CERN logo"
"The only black hole CNN can show that is real is Dom Lemon"
"This all looks like inverted satanic worship of Ketu the Black Sun. An observable node here on Earth. By using an image of Ketu, as Einstein's Black hole, they are both subverting the narrative & censoring the past. This "discovery" comes at an awfully convenient time for the GlobeEarthers".
"I once sharted and left this exact image in my underwear"


Bonus lesson for badecker: Atheist Frank Zindler admits that The Bible says flat earth: https://youtu.be/HuCA4rIX4cE?t=2171

I give credit for that atheist guy, at least he is honest, but you badecker are dishonest (if in any case you believe what the Word of God really says).

God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that this was good (pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it. (AMP.version)

Get lost with your Copernicus and nasa, repent.



Yep, that's how science works, scientists use ''debunking'' youtube videos to make their new theories, thanks for your videos man, you are really helping them debunk all this fakery. Be careful tho, the men in black might come for you and kill you for saying this.

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I give credit for that atheist guy, at least he is honest, but you badecker are dishonest (if in any case you believe what the Word of God really says).

God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that this was good (pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it. (AMP.version)

Get lost with your Copernicus and nasa, repent.


I don't want to blame you for promoting your pet point. I gues we all do that.

Genesis 1:6-10:
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6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.” 7So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And
it was so. 10God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw
that it was good.

Notice in the above verses that God separated the waters that were under the sky from the waters that were above the sky. Then, the next day, He gathered the waters under the sky to one place so that dry ground appeared.

The point? The waters were one before God separated them by placing the sky between them. After He separated them, the Bible record only talks about the waters under the sky. The waters under the sky had dirt mixed in; they were mud. How do we know? He separated the water from the dirt in the mud, so that the mud would become solidified dry ground.

Two points about this:
1. Before the separation, there was no distinction made between the waters (mud) that went above the sky, and the waters (mud) that went below the sky. The waters (mud) above the sky were the same as the waters (mud) below the sky. If God did any separating of the mud above the sky, He doesn't tell us. However;
2. The thing that keeps the waters separate is gravity. If we didn't have gravity (whatever it is), we would still have mud. Why? Because it is gravity that makes the various densities to be effective, so that dry ground can appear. So it was the beginning of the third day that God made gravity.

Note that all I am trying to do here is separate you from your distinctive densities.

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^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.

Because... you say so? Where is the evidence for that? I googled what you said and I saw no results supporting your statements, even if there was 1 or 2 sites somewhere saying that, why should we trust them? Are you a scientist? How are you judging their results?



In 1939 Dufour & Prunier performed a replication of the Sagnac Experiment that accounted for rotating frames of reference and it falsified special relativity. This is where the theoretical argument for gravity and black holes ends. There's no retreating to Newtonian gravity either, it's over.
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^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.

Because... you say so? Where is the evidence for that? I googled what you said and I saw no results supporting your statements, even if there was 1 or 2 sites somewhere saying that, why should we trust them? Are you a scientist? How are you judging their results?



In 1939 Dufour & Prunier performed a replication of the Sagnac Experiment that accounted for rotating frames of reference and it falsified special relativity. This is where the theoretical argument for gravity and black holes ends. There's no retreating to Newtonian gravity either, it's over.

How do you know that actually happened? Where is the evidence?

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^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.

Because... you say so? Where is the evidence for that? I googled what you said and I saw no results supporting your statements, even if there was 1 or 2 sites somewhere saying that, why should we trust them? Are you a scientist? How are you judging their results?



In 1939 Dufour & Prunier performed a replication of the Sagnac Experiment that accounted for rotating frames of reference and it falsified special relativity. This is where the theoretical argument for gravity and black holes ends. There's no retreating to Newtonian gravity either, it's over.

The point is that Special Relativity hasn't been completely falsified. Certain aspects of it work, while other aspects don't.

There are any number of theories that work in different ways than Specialized Relativity, but get the job done the same as SR. Quantum Theory is one of them. Electric universe is another.

What's the reason for this? The reason is that Sagnac, just like SR and other theories, don't take into account what the aether really is. You and I both don't know completely what it really is. But it is easy to see some of the basics of it that you are missing.

The aether is a non-material, non-energy, flexible, elastic solid that carries energy and material along in the ways the laws of physics dictate that they should go. The aether caries energy along like the air carries sound, but in a much more complex way.

Most theories, including SR and what Sagnac did, don't have enough aether mechanics built in to make them 100% fact.

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^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.

 I googled what you said and I saw no results supporting your statements, 

do you really believe google is going to give you the truth?, we are way past that, google is a propaganda machine now




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Fernand Prunier is a French antirelativist engineer born in 1897 and died in 1971 who played a role in the history of the theory of relativity.

Summary

    1 Books
    2 Publications
    3 References
    4 External links

Books

    Newton , Maupertuis and Einstein , reflections on relativity (1929)
    On a displacement of fringes recorded on a platform in uniform rotation , with Alexandre Dufour (1940)
    Some new observations and experiments and their consequences for theories of physics (1946)
    On discrete numerical relations between the elements of the stars of the solar system and on their interpretation (1950)
    On Fermat's theorem, did Fermat prove it? (1966)

Publications

    On an experiment of Georges Sagnac which would be made with flows of electrons (January 1935)
    On the observation of the Sagnac phenomenon with an untrained illuminating source (May 1937)
    On the observation of the Sagnac phenomenon by an untrained observer (June 1937)
    On the Sagnac effect (October 1937)
    On the effect observed on a rotating Sagnac disc when part of the optical circuit is not trained (March 1939)
    We Have Displacement of Fringes Recorded on a Platform in Uniform Rotation (September 1942)

References

    Alex Moatti , Alterscience: postures, dogmas, ideologies , Odile Jacob, 2013, p.21.
    Eric Gourgoulhon , Special Relativity in General Frames: From Particles to Astrophysics , Springer, 2010, p.469.

External links

Authority records: National Library of France ( data )
-- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernand_Prunier



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Alexandre Dufour is a French physicist who succeeded Georges Sagnac as lecturer in physics for the PCN certificate ( 1st year of medical studies) at the Faculty of Sciences of the University of Paris in September 1920. He obtained the title of professor without a chair on April 1 , 1927 , then was appointed full professor on October 1 , 1931 .

He was the inventor of the cathode oscillograph , whose process he described as early as 1914, before publishing the details of the apparatus in 1920.

A group of marginal scientists, defenders of theories for some of the pseudo-science, bore his name (the Physics Circle Alexandre Dufour). He met at the home of the Centralians from 1949 to 1983. Among its members was René-Louis Vallée, the inventor of Synergistic Physics .

Summary

    1 Notes and references
    2 See also
        2.1 Bibliography
        2.2 External links

Notes and references

    ↑ Reports of the sessions of the Academy of Sciences [archive] on Gallica
    MA Dufour, " Cathodic Oscillograph " [archive] , on archives-ouvertes.fr
    ↑ Mentioned in particular by David Larousserie on lemonde.fr [archive]
    Alexandre Moatti - SPS n ° 292, October 2010 [archive]

See also
Bibliography

    Alexandre Moatti , Alterscience: Postures, dogmas, ideologies , Paris, Odile Jacob, coll. "Sciences", 2013 , 334 p. ( ISBN 978-2-7381-2887-4 ) , "Antirelativist Engineers: The Physics Circle Alexandre Dufour", p. 57-68.

External links

Research Resource: Professors of the Faculty of Sciences of Paris [archive]
-- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dufour_(physicien)

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^^^ You're like a fish flopping around on dry land.

Holy shit....the irony...Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Actually, it's why I find this thread so amusing.
A creationist nutter and a flat earth nutter troll  and his retarded meme crazy sockpuppet in a pissing contest,
all quoting a 2000 year old book of ridiculous fairy tales written by goat herders as their "evidence".

 You just can't make this shit up I tell ya....

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^^^ Actually I just quoted the entries from Wikipedia on the two French scientists who falsified relativity.





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Alexandre Dufour is the inventor of the oscilloscope.

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Fernand Prunier is a French antirelativist engineer born in 1897 and died in 1971 who played a role in the history of the theory of relativity.

Summary

    1 Books
    2 Publications
    3 References
    4 External links

Books

    Newton , Maupertuis and Einstein , reflections on relativity (1929)
    On a displacement of fringes recorded on a platform in uniform rotation , with Alexandre Dufour (1940)
    Some new observations and experiments and their consequences for theories of physics (1946)
    On discrete numerical relations between the elements of the stars of the solar system and on their interpretation (1950)
    On Fermat's theorem, did Fermat prove it? (1966)

Publications

    On an experiment of Georges Sagnac which would be made with flows of electrons (January 1935)
    On the observation of the Sagnac phenomenon with an untrained illuminating source (May 1937)
    On the observation of the Sagnac phenomenon by an untrained observer (June 1937)
    On the Sagnac effect (October 1937)
    On the effect observed on a rotating Sagnac disc when part of the optical circuit is not trained (March 1939)
    We Have Displacement of Fringes Recorded on a Platform in Uniform Rotation (September 1942)

References

    Alex Moatti , Alterscience: postures, dogmas, ideologies , Odile Jacob, 2013, p.21.
    Eric Gourgoulhon , Special Relativity in General Frames: From Particles to Astrophysics , Springer, 2010, p.469.

External links

Authority records: National Library of France ( data )
-- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernand_Prunier



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Alexandre Dufour is a French physicist who succeeded Georges Sagnac as lecturer in physics for the PCN certificate ( 1st year of medical studies) at the Faculty of Sciences of the University of Paris in September 1920. He obtained the title of professor without a chair on April 1 , 1927 , then was appointed full professor on October 1 , 1931 .

He was the inventor of the cathode oscillograph , whose process he described as early as 1914, before publishing the details of the apparatus in 1920.

A group of marginal scientists, defenders of theories for some of the pseudo-science, bore his name (the Physics Circle Alexandre Dufour). He met at the home of the Centralians from 1949 to 1983. Among its members was René-Louis Vallée, the inventor of Synergistic Physics .

Summary

    1 Notes and references
    2 See also
        2.1 Bibliography
        2.2 External links

Notes and references

    ↑ Reports of the sessions of the Academy of Sciences [archive] on Gallica
    MA Dufour, " Cathodic Oscillograph " [archive] , on archives-ouvertes.fr
    ↑ Mentioned in particular by David Larousserie on lemonde.fr [archive]
    Alexandre Moatti - SPS n ° 292, October 2010 [archive]

See also
Bibliography

    Alexandre Moatti , Alterscience: Postures, dogmas, ideologies , Paris, Odile Jacob, coll. "Sciences", 2013 , 334 p. ( ISBN 978-2-7381-2887-4 ) , "Antirelativist Engineers: The Physics Circle Alexandre Dufour", p. 57-68.

External links

Research Resource: Professors of the Faculty of Sciences of Paris [archive]
-- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dufour_(physicien)



Where does it say anything about what you claimed about relativity? And where is the evidence they did so?

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April 13, 2019, 12:11:50 PM
Last edit: April 13, 2019, 12:23:14 PM by notbatman
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^^^ You should kill yourself instead of being a massive cuck.

They took rotating frames of reference into account and falsified relativity with their replication of the Sagnac experiment, if you want details then read their fucking work.
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^^^ You should kill yourself instead of being a massive cuck.

They took rotating frames of reference into account and falsified relativity with their replication of the Sagnac experiment, if you want details then read their fucking work.

How do you know? Why do you keep saying ''they took'' were you there? Did you try it by yourself? Are you even a scientist? Read their work you say, why should I? I've read other work saying their work is garbage.

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