Flat Earth

[sirazimuth]

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I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. ....

Well after 779 pages of FE nonsense, at least you got that right.

..... This was before I discovered the firmament (dome) and the inconsolable fact that somebody had to have built it.
....

[notbatman]

^^^ You guys are trying to frame an argument of somebody born into '''religious dogma''', that can't give up an emotional faith in something that's not based on fact, logic and reason. Your tired Piccard (a sci-fi character based on Swiss physicist Auguste Piccard) meme is not an argument.

I can show pieces of manufactured steel that fall out of the sky, I can show that curved ranbows can't form without a curved mirror, I can even produce a photograph (all-be-it less than definitive) of the dome from an exploration of the Antarctic region before the Antarctic Treaty System was put in place.

If pieces of steel fall out of the sky on a regular basis, you'd think one might get a fucking clue that the sky is made out of metal? The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.




Image source: https://flatearthperspectives.wordpress.com/2016/06/13/dr-auguste-piccards-record-breaking-balloon-flights/


Hennessy V.S TV Commercial, 'The Piccards' -- https://www.ispot.tv/ad/A6iP/hennessy-vs-the-piccards

[BADecker]

^^^ You guys are trying to frame an argument of somebody born into '''religious dogma''', that can't give up an emotional faith in something that's not based on fact, logic and reason. Your tired Piccard (a sci-fi character based on Swiss physicist Auguste Piccard) meme is not an argument.

I can show pieces of manufactured steel that fall out of the sky, I can show that curved ranbows can't form without a curved mirror, I can even produce a photograph (all-be-it less than definitive) of the dome from an exploration of the Antarctic region before the Antarctic Treaty System was put in place.

If pieces of steel fall out of the sky on a regular basis, you'd think one might get a fucking clue that the sky is made out of metal? The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.



https://i.imgur.com/mvaJM4B.jpg
Image source: https://flatearthperspectives.wordpress.com/2016/06/13/dr-auguste-piccards-record-breaking-balloon-flights/


Hennessy V.S TV Commercial, 'The Piccards' -- https://www.ispot.tv/ad/A6iP/hennessy-vs-the-piccards

Since you won't accept the multitudes of scientific proofs that the earth is a globe, you either have a religion going for yourself, or you are a troll, or you are in (or should be in) the funny farm.

You can show all kinds of things, but you won't. So, until you do, you don't have anything worthwhile.

You can go out to almost any piece of land, but especially to a flat piece of land, or to a calm ocean in a boat away from land, and see a dome of a sky. Why? Because that's the way our eyes interpret what we see. Not because a dome is really what is there.

Bonus:
View from the fairing during the SpaceX Falcon Heavy STP-2 mission

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12XwnpxhCr8

[Astargath]

^^^ You guys are trying to frame an argument of somebody born into '''religious dogma''', that can't give up an emotional faith in something that's not based on fact, logic and reason. Your tired Piccard (a sci-fi character based on Swiss physicist Auguste Piccard) meme is not an argument.

I can show pieces of manufactured steel that fall out of the sky, I can show that curved ranbows can't form without a curved mirror, I can even produce a photograph (all-be-it less than definitive) of the dome from an exploration of the Antarctic region before the Antarctic Treaty System was put in place.

If pieces of steel fall out of the sky on a regular basis, you'd think one might get a fucking clue that the sky is made out of metal? The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.




Image source: https://flatearthperspectives.wordpress.com/2016/06/13/dr-auguste-piccards-record-breaking-balloon-flights/


Hennessy V.S TV Commercial, 'The Piccards' -- https://www.ispot.tv/ad/A6iP/hennessy-vs-the-piccards

Yeah? What kind of expertise do you have to prove those pieces of steel are manufactured? Where does the bible describe a dome made by titans? The bible says god made everything not giants, are you sure you are reading the right bible?

[notbatman]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

[BADecker]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

   

[sirazimuth]

....
I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. ....

...The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.
...

Jeezus dude, if ya gonna be a lying sack of shit, at least try to cover your tracks a little better...

[notbatman]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

....
I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. ....

...The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.
...

Jeezus dude, if ya gonna be a lying sack of shit, at least try to cover your tracks a little better...

You've got two quotes with no context other that it relates to the bible all while screaming I'm a liar. Go curl up in a gas oven if you don't have point to make.

"... I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. This was before I discovered the firmament (dome) and the inconsolable fact that somebody had to have built it. ..."

See once what I said is put into the context it was written in, you look like the "lying sack of shit". Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?

[BADecker]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

Mommy set the table for supper, so the earth is flat?

Troposcatter doesn't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.

[Astargath]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

....
I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. ....

...The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.
...

Jeezus dude, if ya gonna be a lying sack of shit, at least try to cover your tracks a little better...

You've got two quotes with no context other that it relates to the bible all while screaming I'm a liar. Go curl up in a gas oven if you don't have point to make.

"... I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. This was before I discovered the firmament (dome) and the inconsolable fact that somebody had to have built it. ..."

See once what I said is put into the context it was written in, you look like the "lying sack of shit". Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?

'' Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?'' Yes you did mention that several times which is kind of weird considering your god said not to kill people, with those words you are going to hell my friend.

[notbatman]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

Mommy set the table for supper, so the earth is flat?

Troposcatter doesn't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.

That's where you're wrong, the radio signal is bounced off of the troposphereic plane; plane trigonometry doesn't do spheres.


Image source: Fading Correlation Analysis in MIMO-OFDM Troposcatter Communications: Space, Frequency, Angle and Space-Frequency Diversity | https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7000551


edit:

The atmospheric planes, with the troposhphere being one plane in a multitude of planes, a plane being, in both a mathematical and physical sense that which goes over a plain, it forms a refractive layer and that layer, a plane surface together with the multitude of planes form a hemesphere above the plain. Think of a bubble sticking to a surface full of layers of different coloured gasses.

Some planes have the property of being a liquid crystal and display the Sun, Moon and stars. An electromagnetic signal is projected off of the mirrored nickel-iron oxide exterior (micro) of the firmament's concave surface (macro) to achieve this plasma effect.


edit2:

The rain falls mostly on the plain in Spain.

[BADecker]

Image source: Fading Correlation Analysis in MIMO-OFDM Troposcatter Communications: Space, Frequency, Angle and Space-Frequency Diversity | https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7000551

So you think you can explain that^^ is a way that you will understand, eh.

[sirazimuth]

^^^ You're a fucking liar, a sextant can measure the Sun when it's directly above you at 90 degrees, the fucking scale has 120 degrees on it. YOU FUCKING LIAR!

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

Go curl up in a gas oven if you don't have point to make.

Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?

[exemplaar]

Guys, how I adore you.  Already 15563 comments in this thread.  I have not visited this topic for almost 2 years and thought that the disputes regarding this issue have already been resolved, but I see that the conflict regarding the shape of our planet or the plane of the Earth does grow more and more.  I heard that recently China announced new programs about building a new settlement on the moon.  I think this news is like a nuclear bomb.  By the way, North Koreans seriously think that their cores are born in space.

Maybe you should visit this important topic more frequently...



+bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKHTOw6UeNk

[kissmarx]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

[BADecker]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

^^^ Exactly!

What scientists have done is to take loads of things we see, and add to them loads of practical findings (math and physics), and put them all together. The result is the standard understanding of globe earth and the way the universe exists in their general descriptions.

Flat earth science is incomplete, and has contradictions that are far greater than the few seeming contradictions in standard science. Much of what the FE people talk about doesn't have anything to do with FE. In addition, their magnification of certain anomalies in standard math and science is extremely outweighed by anomalies and contradictions in FE science.

To maintain the idea of flat earth, FE people simply use focus in an unfair and incorrect way, to make it seem like FE is the way things exist. Why? Three basic reasons:
1. Limited thinking ability;
2. Religious-like zealousness;
3. Trolling;
... 4. Any combination of the above 3.

[exemplaar]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

Like this:


and this:


or even this:

[Initscri]

Only this would be the #1 topic in Off-Topic. Just sayin'

[odolvlobo]

The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of the altitude.

1. "appears" doesn't mean "is".  Scale and distance are also factors.
2. You dismiss the legitimacy of any picture of the earth from an altitude at which you might see any curvature, so you really don't know if it is actually "regardless of altitude".

In this first shot, the moon is observably in the distance.
In this shot, the moon is clearly and evidently local due to the increase in size.

Don't be stupid. Those images are different in scale or focal length. Flat earth or not, the size of the moon hardly changes as it moves around the earth. Flat earth theory attributes the constant size to atmospheric refraction.

[BADecker]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

Like this:


and this:

Horizon is never at the eye level. It's an optical illusion that suggests it is. Trig proves that the horizon is always the same distance below the level line of sight as the eye is above the earth.

or even this:

Notice that your zoomed in moon is the same size as when it isn't zoomed in. This alone proves that it is so far distant that the little zooming in doesn't make any appreciable difference.