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February 09, 2019, 02:03:10 AM
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You assume that a "breeze" is moving the flag, but you don't have any evidence. You could just as easily claim that ghosts or angels (or demons) are moving it.

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February 09, 2019, 02:33:10 AM
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I wonder how long ago that flag was planted.  If only a few seconds or minutes, it would still be vibrating from being placed in the ground.

Wind requires an atmosphere.  The moon does not have the gravity to have an atmosphere.


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February 09, 2019, 03:58:42 AM
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Can we as people from this Bitcointalk thread just launch a high altitude weather balloon already? If I offer to build it, and get clearance to release it under mutually agreed upon terms, can we just all take a look at what it'd show, or would it call into question whether I doctored the photos?

If its possible for us to come to an agreement on this, what needs to be done to make it acceptable proof of whatever we end up witnessing? If no one will trust me to not throw a special lens in or to doctor the footage before showing it, any skeptics interested in building their own to prove it to themselves and posting results?

https://www.wired.com/2010/02/spacebridge-diy-balloon/

It'll cost about $200 all in to build a balloon like this for anyone interested. This is really sort of ridiculous, this is something that can be confirmed with $200 and a Youtube education. Its more expensive to experimentally determine the melting temperature of copper than to get a camera high enough off the ground to look at the earth.

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February 09, 2019, 04:43:03 AM
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^^^ FE people will tell you that the shape of lenses on cameras, wrong understanding of how perspective works, atmospheric aberration, and various kinds of atmospheric prismatic effects, will make any curvature to be to be simple distortions one way or another.

If you build a big balloon, and go up in it personally, your eye lenses might be more accurate than camera lenses. But all the rest of the above stuff, will still distort your vision so that any curvature is simply not really there.

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February 09, 2019, 04:55:40 AM
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^^^ FE people will tell you that the shape of lenses on cameras, wrong understanding of how perspective works, atmospheric aberration, and various kinds of atmospheric prismatic effects, will make any curvature to be to be simple distortions one way or another.

If you build a big balloon, and go up in it personally, your eye lenses might be more accurate than camera lenses. But all the rest of the above stuff, will still distort your vision so that any curvature is simply not really there.

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Right, which is why I'm asking, what corrections can we do to make sure that the observed event is mutually agreeable. Come to me with a list of must haves and we'll see if we can't get it done.

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February 09, 2019, 05:45:50 AM
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Right, which is why I'm asking, what corrections can we do to make sure that the observed event is mutually agreeable. Come to me with a list of must haves and we'll see if we can't get it done.

You assume you are dealing with a logical, reasonable person.  You cannot win an argument with a troll, even for something as obvious as this.

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February 09, 2019, 06:58:24 AM
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Photographic evidence is the weakest and most easily fabricated kind of proof, not to mention all lenses are prone to distortion to some degree. Everybody screaming show me pictures is a moron or a fucking lampshade who doesn't want this issue resolved at any cost.

The truth is this issue was resolved in 1887 with the Michelson–Morley experiment, the Earth is motionless and can not be a spinning globe.
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February 09, 2019, 07:26:32 AM
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Photographic evidence is the weakest and most easily fabricated kind of proof, not to mention all lenses are prone to distortion to some degree. Everybody screening show me pictures is a moron or a fucking lampshade who doesn't want this issue resolved at any cost.

The truth is this issue was resolved in 1887 with the Michelson–Morley experiment, the Earth is motionless and can not be a spinning globe.

Post 1+1=3 all you want.  It doesn't change the truth.  :/

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February 09, 2019, 07:44:15 AM
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This is a conspiracy by organized crime, violence is the only possible solution (by design).
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February 09, 2019, 07:52:12 AM
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The Apollo Moon landings are #FAKENEWS.




It was tested on myth busters in a vacuum chamber, how about instead of blatantly making claims, without even understanding basic science, do these tests yourself first, before just using these as "so called" evidence for flat-earth. Vibrations, from movement nearby causes the flag to move.

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February 09, 2019, 08:00:13 AM
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I cannot comprehend how a flat-earther can believe that there is some kind of conspiracy hiding the truth. There are literally millions of people that directly depend on a spherical earth in so many different ways. I can't fathom how so many people could keep such a secret for thousands of years.


I also find it hilarious that flat-earthers believe that Ptolemy got it wrong -- not because he believed that the Sun and planets revolve around the earth, but because even he knew that the earth is a sphere.

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February 09, 2019, 08:02:22 AM
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Photographic evidence is the weakest and most easily fabricated kind of proof, not to mention all lenses are prone to distortion to some degree. Everybody screaming show me pictures is a moron or a fucking lampshade who doesn't want this issue resolved at any cost.

The truth is this issue was resolved in 1887 with the Michelson–Morley experiment, the Earth is motionless and can not be a spinning globe.

''Michelson–Morley type experiments have been repeated many times with steadily increasing sensitivity. These include experiments from 1902 to 1905, and a series of experiments in the 1920s. More recent optical resonator experiments confirmed the absence of any aether wind at the 10−17 level.[2][3] Together with the Ives–Stilwell and Kennedy–Thorndike experiments, Michelson–Morley type experiments form one of the fundamental tests of special relativity theory.[A 3]''

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February 09, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
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^^^ That mythbusters video you linked doesn't debunk the clip of the flag waving that I posted, not even a little bit. That faggot is wrenching on the flag with a fucking metal lever! You realize anybody can click on your video and see what a massive clown you are?

Your rebuttal (not an actual rebuttal but a shitty copy & paste) to M&M is equally as goofy; the goalposts are moved from an attempt at measuring the Earth's theorized motion to a non-sequitur regarding the aether. The box of soap who wrote that garbage then starts claiming it was a test of relativity when in fact relativity was the chosen's excuse for denying the empirical results of the experiment. Relativity was experimentally falsified by Dufour & Prunier's replication of the Sagnac experiment shortly after schlomo claimed there was no aether.

The M&M experiment was replicated by the USAF in 1984 and confirmed that the Earth is stationary.



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It's funny that in a forum where most people are with above average intelligence they still believe in this kind of bullshit.

I can't find even one reason why this would be hidden if it were true.

So much stupidity going around, wonder does it hurt?



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I cannot comprehend how a flat-earther can believe that there is some kind of conspiracy hiding the truth. There are literally millions of people that directly depend on a spherical earth in so many different ways. I can't fathom how so many people could keep such a secret for thousands of years.

My conclusion is its a giant game to them and they don't actually believe their own nonsense. There's no other rational explanation for it. I gave up taking OP seriously when he started selectively believing in laws of physics. Eg., Coulomb's Law is correct but the Law of Gravity is bullshit. Its a giant charade of choosing to believe only in what suits their weird troll agenda.

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February 09, 2019, 11:39:08 AM
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All of these models have been proven wrong many times over.


3 axis, 3 dimension is flawed, go research 4D (religion has 7, science at least 10 dimensions, in reality there is no limit of dimensions)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGO12Z5Lw8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyuRLmCphHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ruHJFsb4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I

4D Roller Coasters: Explained

And the sell-out Carl Sagan



Still chasing a time-laps of moon rise to moon set from a place 9° S, like Bali..... if anyone can point to it or make one much appreciated

Proper map of the world
https://imgur.com/yI94ewM (zoom in) and 45°to every axis is something like this: https://i.imgur.com/PpprLxi.png





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February 09, 2019, 02:54:52 PM
Last edit: February 09, 2019, 03:14:38 PM by SaltySpitoon
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My conclusion is its a giant game to them and they don't actually believe their own nonsense. There's no other rational explanation for it. I gave up taking OP seriously when he started selectively believing in laws of physics. Eg., Coulomb's Law is correct but the Law of Gravity is bullshit. Its a giant charade of choosing to believe only in what suits their weird troll agenda.

The problem is people with not enough information, interpreting things incorrectly and then spreading their incorrect conclusions to others who can't interpret the information. I can walk someone through every single step of the MM experiment with an explanation of why each part is done and how it works (I'd be happy to do so for those actually interested!), but there will still be misunderstanding about it if you aren't at least a doctoral candidate. Relativity isn't something you can understand on your own unless you are a Hawking/Einstein level genius. Universities do not have full time staff teaching Relativity because its such a complicated subject, there are not many people who are qualified to teach it. Then people screech, well! Its an inside scheme by those professionals to keep us from learning the truth! The same can be said about surgeons and other professions with high levels of training required. You can't watch 20 hours of youtube videos and perform surgery.

I don't claim to know it all, but MM can be explained with a basic understanding of 1. Why Galilean transformations do not apply. 2. Why Lorentz transformations are required. 3. A bit of math 4. A bit optics. If you have have had Newtonian physics and understand transformations, you can understand why the MM experiment confirmed that there is no ether, why E&M waves do not require a medium, and I guess by some derivation from there why the earth is round?

@notbatman No worries, believe what you want and just ignore my posts, I'm just chatting with the people who are skeptics or those interested in confirming their own understanding. Find what works for you.

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February 09, 2019, 04:34:12 PM
Last edit: February 09, 2019, 07:04:44 PM by sirazimuth
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My conclusion is its a giant game to them and they don't actually believe their own nonsense. There's no other rational explanation for it. ....

My sentiments exactly.
It's their bizarre attention seeking mechanism, if you will.
The fact this thread was started on April Fools Day is no coincidence.





Well, of course. A joker like you who doesn't understand the idea that Hell is burning hot, wouldn't understand something like this.

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Umm...no
I had no idea what you meant by this brilliant gem....

.... Many folks jump out of their religion just to avoid the flames.

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I always thought you pious folk have this deluded notion that when you finally get a clue and stop believing in fairy tales
you dump your religion the almighty sky fairy banishes you to eternally burn in hell or some such ridiculous thing.
(A notion about as nonsensical as a flat earth... to stay on topic)

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February 09, 2019, 09:00:18 PM
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The M&M experiment was replicated by the USAF in 1984 and confirmed that the Earth is stationary.

My M&Ms don't move when I place them on my table, but 1+1 still is 2.  Smiley

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February 09, 2019, 11:19:57 PM
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The M&M experiment was replicated by the USAF in 1984 and confirmed that the Earth is stationary.

My M&Ms don't move when I place them on my table, but 1+1 still is 2.  Smiley

Of course your M&Ms move (except if you lied and you don't really have any). They are vibrating with the heat inside them. You would have to get them down to absolute zero to keep them from moving.

Besides, the earth rotates and revolves. The M&Ms move right along with the earth.

Also, 1+1 never equals 2. Why not? Because there is nothing that is exactly the same as something else. Therefore, 1+1 always equals 1+1.

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