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May 20, 2019, 11:22:17 PM
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May 21, 2019, 12:25:20 AM
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Hey! There's a new thread called Next Batman: Robert Pattinson. When are we going to get a new notbatman in this thread?

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May 21, 2019, 02:30:24 AM
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1. Launch a balloon with your own camera attached to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAifzh7_-cg

Watch notbatman rage about fisheye lens or some other weird invented optical illusion that makes the earth appear as round. He refuses to test anything by himself.

But it is a fisheye lens. You can easily see the distortion when the balloon first launches. That video contains no proof at all. A person who claims that it shows that the earth is round diminishes their own credibility.

In fact, pictures from balloons are not good proof of flat or round earth. Even if the image is not distorted, the earth is going to look flat (whether it is or not) at 80,000 ft. At 80,0000 ft. with a "normal" perspective (90 degrees from side to side), the horizon of a round earth is going to deviate from a straight line by only about 4%. You aren't going to see that in a video.

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^^^ The problem with your thinking is outer space. The camera distinctly shows outer space. If the earth were flat in any way that notbatman and his colleagues suggest, you wouldn't see space. All you would see is the white ice and a dome touching down. At worst you would see a haze off in all directions because of the perspective and atmospheric distortions that FE people talk about. But the video shows a distinct division between Earth and space.

If the earth was in any way flat in the video, it would have to be pizza-flat... at best a disk in space. And the camera would have to be directly over the center of the disk to keep it from showing as oblong rather than round.

So, the earth might have a weird shape, but it certainly is not flat in the sense the notbatman suggests. Since the standard shape of things held together by gravity or static electricity in free-fall (as a chunk of not-"glued"-together material in space) tends towards the spherical, probably earth is nearly a globe or something similar.

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May 21, 2019, 12:37:16 PM
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^^^ Albert Michelson, Edward Morley, Georges Sagnac, Alexandre Dufour and Fernand Prunier, that's five scientists not two and they're all big names.



"It's Photoshop but, but it has to be" -- NASA explaining how photographs of Earth are made.

So is newton, einstein, etc and you dont believe any of them even though they are far more famous and important, any reason why you believe those ones?

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May 21, 2019, 05:01:57 PM
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At worst you would see a haze off in all directions because of the perspective and atmospheric distortions that FE people talk about.

That's a good point. A camera at that height would have no FE atmospheric refraction to prevent it from seeing the edge, and beyond.

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At worst you would see a haze off in all directions because of the perspective and atmospheric distortions that FE people talk about.

That's a good point. A camera at that height would have no FE atmospheric refraction to prevent it from seeing the edge, and beyond.

I'm just curious if notbatman even leaves his house at all, how does he know australia is real if he doesn't live there? Could be another hoax by NASA.

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May 22, 2019, 12:07:40 AM
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^^^ Everyone knows that notbatman believes that GE posts are placed here by NASA.

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May 22, 2019, 12:48:12 AM
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Anybody with a good zoom lens can see for themselves if the Earth is flat, look how easy it is to prove:

Simple Flat Earth Distance to the Horizon Test -- https://youtu.be/X8YrYoCyw0g
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May 22, 2019, 01:08:19 AM
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^^^ Video is too unscientifically done to prove anything regarding the shape of the earth.

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May 22, 2019, 01:35:46 AM
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^^^ Even if the strictest most scientifically possible setup is employed it doesn't change what is being observed, the horizon is farther than can be explained by a globe. If you want some proof the Earth is flat that can be replicated by almost anybody, well there you go; distance to the horizon.
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May 22, 2019, 11:32:33 AM
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https://youtu.be/m4kM5zwxThE

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^^^ Even if the strictest most scientifically possible setup is employed it doesn't change what is being observed, the horizon is farther than can be explained by a globe. If you want some proof the Earth is flat that can be replicated by almost anybody, well there you go; distance to the horizon.

Exactly the point... the strictest scientifically possible setup.

Since you seem to rely on things that are just about the sloppiest non-scientific setups, that's why you are having trouble telling where the horizon is.

Nobody wants proof that the earth is flat or globe or anything else from sloppy videos like the ones you present. Why not? Because people absolutely know that they can't even get evidence, to say nothing about proof, from such videos.

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May 22, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
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^^^ Distance to the horizon is a test you do yourself with your own camera you goof. If the test in the video(s) doesn't meet your standards then do it yourself!


"Flat Earth rising: meet the people casting aside 2,500 years of science"

So let me get this straight, when I point out that atmospheric refraction was unknown 2500 years ago and reject observations that don't account for the phenomenon [of refraction] I'm casing aside science? I've got an idea, why don't the producers of this video go hang themselves with piano wire?
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Hostility is the first sign of defeat.   Wink

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^^^ Nice, soyboy cranks arm during a rigged sporting event. He's just reeling that event horizon back in folks.

15 miles...
12 miles...
9 miles...
6 miles...

3 MILES!!!!!! He's done it, he's reeled the horizon back within the physical limits of the globe. Maximum soy folks!!!!




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^^^ Distance to the horizon is a test you do yourself with your own camera you goof. If the test in the video(s) doesn't meet your standards then do it yourself!


Thanks for the suggestion. I might do it some time, just for the fun.

The point isn't that people can't make videos. The point is that when they say that a video shows something that nobody can tell from watching the video, what is really going on? M&M and Sagnac would roll over in their graves if they heard you suggest that that poor quality video showed anything like horizon distance.

You should check out your bedroom. Maybe a horizon is rolling around under your bed.

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^^^ Those videos do show a minimum horizon distance based on landmarks (Google Maps) and, the margin of error from using approximate camera height is too insignificant to effect the outcome. Refraction is also too insignificant to affect the outcome. We are left with one and only one conclusion, that the Earth is flat.

A gyroscope proven to react to a 15°/hr rotation can't detect any Earth rotation and this is proof we are not rotating.

The 1887 M&M experiment shows that the Earth has a velocity of ZERO! The 1939 D&P replication of the Sagnac experiment falsified relativity and the Earth's velocity remains at ZERO!

It can be proven that NASA has Masons hanging from wires and bouncing around zero-g airplanes. They landed a foil wrapped cardboard box on the Moon and took composite/airbrush photographs of Earth from the lunar surface of Los Vegas. They're a fucking propaganda agency that puts out WWE tier adult entertainment with free atmospheric refraction tables.
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May 23, 2019, 01:29:17 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s6n7j-vC2s


Nothing to see here....

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^^^ Those videos do show a minimum horizon distance based on landmarks (Google Maps) and, the margin of error from using approximate camera height is too insignificant to effect the outcome. Refraction is also too insignificant to affect the outcome. We are left with one and only one conclusion, that the Earth is flat.

A gyroscope proven to react to a 15°/hr rotation can't detect any Earth rotation and this is proof we are not rotating.

The 1887 M&M experiment shows that the Earth has a velocity of ZERO! The 1939 D&P replication of the Sagnac experiment falsified relativity and the Earth's velocity remains at ZERO!

It can be proven that NASA has Masons hanging from wires and bouncing around zero-g airplanes. They landed a foil wrapped cardboard box on the Moon and took composite/airbrush photographs of Earth from the lunar surface of Los Vegas. They're a fucking propaganda agency that puts out WWE tier adult entertainment with free atmospheric refraction tables.

What are you trying to say? People use sight for all kinds of things, because sight shows us what is there. But when things seen aren't depicted in such a way that we can determine what is there, we don't know what is really there, even though we have some sort of idea of what might be there. Your video is a work of crude art, not verifiable science.

Your silly video shows what it shows... a jumble of artistic colorations, some clear, some not, of... well, anyone can go watch it. It doesn't express measurable distance to any points from any points in any way. If you want to believe what the added writing says, that's fine. But we can't tell from the video if the writer made a mistake or not. The video is completely useless for determining distances to the horizon, even if it wasn't edited.

If you think the video expresses something like horizon distances in a more-or-less scientific way, you really need to go back and learn what science is all about. And if, based on this scientific understanding methodology of yours, you think that you are able to determine what M&M and Sagnac show, you are really missing it... especially if you accept them but reject all the findings of other scientists, along with direct observations.

How in the world dense are you? The gravity of your situation is pushing/pulling you into the position of being real funny farm material. Come on out of your dream world into the light of reality... like you can tell from that video what the distance to the horizon is... not. How in the world silly can you get?

Btw, gyroscopes aren't sensitive enough to detect the slow turn of the earth. How do we know? Take a kid's string actuated gyroscope and set it off. Notice how it twists and turns on its pedestal as it loses speed. With relation to the slow turn of the earth, you might need something as sensitive as an atomic gyroscope, like an atomic clock can measure rate of change very accurately. Your gyroscope interjections are totally useless for detecting movement of the earth.

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