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December 04, 2015, 02:52:09 AM
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sia did that for both - and nvidia cards came out far worse than implementing cuda ...

but there you have it ...

#crysx

When did he do that?

I can only hope that NVidia's implementation of OpenCL has improved by now.

It's their unwillingness to participate in an open standard that makes their OpenCL implementation so "average".

the one miner ...

it is opencl and runs for both nvidia and amd based gpus ...

nvidia came out poorly in the trade off ...

https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner ...

the algo is blake2b from what i understand ...

whether its their unwillingness or not - like microsoft and their ridiculous 'standards' as opposed to the 'real' standards - nvidia are the largest gpu manufacturer and developer in the world ...

so they build their own standard - which could be the crappiest coding on the planet ( jump in microsoft again ) but still maintain the number one position for the hardware and software working together ...

#crysx

It's Nvidia's fault. They wanna pretend they're Apple and not give a shit about interoperability, then it should be their problem.

EDIT: I dumped the signature2 kernel from my miner - it was triggering a bug in my other kernels and didn't really make sense to seperate anyways.

I see Wolf beat me too it but it was only about 3 maybe 6 months ago Nvidia started really supporting OpenCl but not the full version of it from my understanding. And Windows 10 with Nvidia is giving the main support. I am no where near a dev so you can look into it further if you like.

Their cards have supported OpenCL pretty much always - but only 1.0 or 1.1 - AMD has supported 1.2 for AGES, and 2.0 is out - they support that, as well.

Saved a metric shitton of GPU memory - how much depends on what you fed to the (fairly stupid) thread concurrency parameter. Now, to dump that param entirely (along with lookup gap, which does nothing for the algo and serves simply to determine how much memory you waste on useless allocation,) and then take a look at parallelism possibilities.

ok- but thats NOT what i was getting at ...

i dont like non-standardization as much as the next guy - BUT - the point of the matter is that we are STUCK with what we are given by nvidia ... just like STUCK with microsoft garbage for SO long ...

so irrelevant whose fault it is - its a matter of working with what we have ...

i totally agree with you both - i think nvidia should stop playing apple and microsoft and start playing oss properly ...

its such a pity amd drivers are a massive crap to install on systems as well ... the drivers and support for oss implementations are great - but the installation routines and support on that side suck the proverbials ... nvidia drivers install seamless ...

when there is a standar we can ALL work from ( yes i know - opencl IS out and available - before you both hammer me for saying this ) - AND companies 'conform' to the standards AND support them - then there will always be a rift in what software we can use for one or the other ...

so - irrespective of who is at fault - we are stuck with what we have with amd and nvidia and microsoft and linux ...

i just cant wait for the time when we can use ONE miner to do ALL the mining on ALL the os systems ... IF that ever happens of course Smiley ...

wolf - the code for spreadx11 has been hammered for ages and i know you have made some improvements / optimizations to it ... but how will it fare insofaras mining goes? ... is it better than the private miner sp distributes? ... which as you know is based on tsivs miner ( ccminer-spreadminer ) ...

im online now anyway - so available for a chat ...

#crysx

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December 04, 2015, 01:26:15 PM
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sia did that for both - and nvidia cards came out far worse than implementing cuda ...

but there you have it ...

#crysx

When did he do that?

I can only hope that NVidia's implementation of OpenCL has improved by now.

It's their unwillingness to participate in an open standard that makes their OpenCL implementation so "average".

the one miner ...

it is opencl and runs for both nvidia and amd based gpus ...

nvidia came out poorly in the trade off ...

https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner ...

the algo is blake2b from what i understand ...

whether its their unwillingness or not - like microsoft and their ridiculous 'standards' as opposed to the 'real' standards - nvidia are the largest gpu manufacturer and developer in the world ...

so they build their own standard - which could be the crappiest coding on the planet ( jump in microsoft again ) but still maintain the number one position for the hardware and software working together ...

#crysx

It's Nvidia's fault. They wanna pretend they're Apple and not give a shit about interoperability, then it should be their problem.

EDIT: I dumped the signature2 kernel from my miner - it was triggering a bug in my other kernels and didn't really make sense to seperate anyways.

I see Wolf beat me too it but it was only about 3 maybe 6 months ago Nvidia started really supporting OpenCl but not the full version of it from my understanding. And Windows 10 with Nvidia is giving the main support. I am no where near a dev so you can look into it further if you like.

Their cards have supported OpenCL pretty much always - but only 1.0 or 1.1 - AMD has supported 1.2 for AGES, and 2.0 is out - they support that, as well.

Saved a metric shitton of GPU memory - how much depends on what you fed to the (fairly stupid) thread concurrency parameter. Now, to dump that param entirely (along with lookup gap, which does nothing for the algo and serves simply to determine how much memory you waste on useless allocation,) and then take a look at parallelism possibilities.

ok- but thats NOT what i was getting at ...

i dont like non-standardization as much as the next guy - BUT - the point of the matter is that we are STUCK with what we are given by nvidia ... just like STUCK with microsoft garbage for SO long ...

so irrelevant whose fault it is - its a matter of working with what we have ...

i totally agree with you both - i think nvidia should stop playing apple and microsoft and start playing oss properly ...

its such a pity amd drivers are a massive crap to install on systems as well ... the drivers and support for oss implementations are great - but the installation routines and support on that side suck the proverbials ... nvidia drivers install seamless ...

when there is a standar we can ALL work from ( yes i know - opencl IS out and available - before you both hammer me for saying this ) - AND companies 'conform' to the standards AND support them - then there will always be a rift in what software we can use for one or the other ...

so - irrespective of who is at fault - we are stuck with what we have with amd and nvidia and microsoft and linux ...

i just cant wait for the time when we can use ONE miner to do ALL the mining on ALL the os systems ... IF that ever happens of course Smiley ...

wolf - the code for spreadx11 has been hammered for ages and i know you have made some improvements / optimizations to it ... but how will it fare insofaras mining goes? ... is it better than the private miner sp distributes? ... which as you know is based on tsivs miner ( ccminer-spreadminer ) ...

im online now anyway - so available for a chat ...

#crysx

sp_ has never said what hashrates his miner gets, so... no idea.

wolf - im completely knackered right now ...

ill set the miner up tomorrow and let you have a go with it to see what it can actually do ...

remember that the spreadminer is an nvidia cuda based miner ... and it worked really well with nonce-pool also ...

anyway ... a little more work to do for me then hit the sack ...

#crysx

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December 04, 2015, 03:39:56 PM
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sia did that for both - and nvidia cards came out far worse than implementing cuda ...

but there you have it ...

#crysx

When did he do that?

I can only hope that NVidia's implementation of OpenCL has improved by now.

It's their unwillingness to participate in an open standard that makes their OpenCL implementation so "average".

the one miner ...

it is opencl and runs for both nvidia and amd based gpus ...

nvidia came out poorly in the trade off ...

https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner ...

the algo is blake2b from what i understand ...

whether its their unwillingness or not - like microsoft and their ridiculous 'standards' as opposed to the 'real' standards - nvidia are the largest gpu manufacturer and developer in the world ...

so they build their own standard - which could be the crappiest coding on the planet ( jump in microsoft again ) but still maintain the number one position for the hardware and software working together ...

#crysx

It's Nvidia's fault. They wanna pretend they're Apple and not give a shit about interoperability, then it should be their problem.

EDIT: I dumped the signature2 kernel from my miner - it was triggering a bug in my other kernels and didn't really make sense to seperate anyways.

I see Wolf beat me too it but it was only about 3 maybe 6 months ago Nvidia started really supporting OpenCl but not the full version of it from my understanding. And Windows 10 with Nvidia is giving the main support. I am no where near a dev so you can look into it further if you like.

Their cards have supported OpenCL pretty much always - but only 1.0 or 1.1 - AMD has supported 1.2 for AGES, and 2.0 is out - they support that, as well.

Saved a metric shitton of GPU memory - how much depends on what you fed to the (fairly stupid) thread concurrency parameter. Now, to dump that param entirely (along with lookup gap, which does nothing for the algo and serves simply to determine how much memory you waste on useless allocation,) and then take a look at parallelism possibilities.

ok- but thats NOT what i was getting at ...

i dont like non-standardization as much as the next guy - BUT - the point of the matter is that we are STUCK with what we are given by nvidia ... just like STUCK with microsoft garbage for SO long ...

so irrelevant whose fault it is - its a matter of working with what we have ...

i totally agree with you both - i think nvidia should stop playing apple and microsoft and start playing oss properly ...

its such a pity amd drivers are a massive crap to install on systems as well ... the drivers and support for oss implementations are great - but the installation routines and support on that side suck the proverbials ... nvidia drivers install seamless ...

when there is a standar we can ALL work from ( yes i know - opencl IS out and available - before you both hammer me for saying this ) - AND companies 'conform' to the standards AND support them - then there will always be a rift in what software we can use for one or the other ...

so - irrespective of who is at fault - we are stuck with what we have with amd and nvidia and microsoft and linux ...

i just cant wait for the time when we can use ONE miner to do ALL the mining on ALL the os systems ... IF that ever happens of course Smiley ...

wolf - the code for spreadx11 has been hammered for ages and i know you have made some improvements / optimizations to it ... but how will it fare insofaras mining goes? ... is it better than the private miner sp distributes? ... which as you know is based on tsivs miner ( ccminer-spreadminer ) ...

im online now anyway - so available for a chat ...

#crysx

sp_ has never said what hashrates his miner gets, so... no idea.

wolf - im completely knackered right now ...

ill set the miner up tomorrow and let you have a go with it to see what it can actually do ...

remember that the spreadminer is an nvidia cuda based miner ... and it worked really well with nonce-pool also ...

anyway ... a little more work to do for me then hit the sack ...

#crysx

My maxwells gain is 8.75% compared to the public miner.
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December 05, 2015, 07:59:04 AM
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sp_ has never said what hashrates his miner gets, so... no idea.

wolf - im completely knackered right now ...

ill set the miner up tomorrow and let you have a go with it to see what it can actually do ...

remember that the spreadminer is an nvidia cuda based miner ... and it worked really well with nonce-pool also ...

anyway ... a little more work to do for me then hit the sack ...

#crysx

My maxwells gain is 8.75% compared to the public miner.

Does anyone have a hashrat example from 280X? I'd run it myself, but I'd rather not spend ages tuning for that kernel, and if I run both with same settings, it could turn out to be an unfair comparison.

My start in the mining world was with 280x and 750ti. 280x(MSI gaming) was making 2Mh with the public miner. I don't remember if it was OCed to 1100MHz or default 1020MHz. 750ti OC + sp makes something over 1.9Mh. The 750ti without an additional pcie power connector makes something between 1.8-1.85Mh.
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December 05, 2015, 08:14:44 AM
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sp_ has never said what hashrates his miner gets, so... no idea.

wolf - im completely knackered right now ...

ill set the miner up tomorrow and let you have a go with it to see what it can actually do ...

remember that the spreadminer is an nvidia cuda based miner ... and it worked really well with nonce-pool also ...

anyway ... a little more work to do for me then hit the sack ...

#crysx

My maxwells gain is 8.75% compared to the public miner.

Does anyone have a hashrat example from 280X? I'd run it myself, but I'd rather not spend ages tuning for that kernel, and if I run both with same settings, it could turn out to be an unfair comparison.

My start in the mining world was with 280x and 750ti. 280x(MSI gaming) was making 2Mh with the public miner. I don't remember if it was OCed to 1100MHz or default 1020MHz. 750ti OC + sp makes something over 1.9Mh. The 750ti without an additional pcie power connector makes something between 1.8-1.85Mh.


4.16MH/s on 280X so far.

that is one hell of a boost mate ...

great work ...

#crysx

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that is one hell of a boost mate ...

great work ...

#crysx

x2  Wink

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December 07, 2015, 12:08:08 AM
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that is one hell of a boost mate ...

great work ...

#crysx

x2  Wink



x3.

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December 07, 2015, 04:20:26 AM
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So for the stats , I gain 4.8MH on my gtx 970 with SP's private miner...
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December 07, 2015, 04:57:21 PM
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sp_ has never said what hashrates his miner gets, so... no idea.

wolf - im completely knackered right now ...

ill set the miner up tomorrow and let you have a go with it to see what it can actually do ...

remember that the spreadminer is an nvidia cuda based miner ... and it worked really well with nonce-pool also ...

anyway ... a little more work to do for me then hit the sack ...

#crysx

My maxwells gain is 8.75% compared to the public miner.

Does anyone have a hashrat example from 280X? I'd run it myself, but I'd rather not spend ages tuning for that kernel, and if I run both with same settings, it could turn out to be an unfair comparison.

My start in the mining world was with 280x and 750ti. 280x(MSI gaming) was making 2Mh with the public miner. I don't remember if it was OCed to 1100MHz or default 1020MHz. 750ti OC + sp makes something over 1.9Mh. The 750ti without an additional pcie power connector makes something between 1.8-1.85Mh.


4.16MH/s on 280X so far.

Thats a whole lot better than my 1.3 MH/s  Cool
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December 07, 2015, 06:38:07 PM
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sp-mod@GTX970 default clocks, 4.3MH/s...
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December 07, 2015, 06:47:55 PM
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where we can find the miner for 280x (4Mhs) share a link please
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December 07, 2015, 09:15:47 PM
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where we can find the miner for 280x (4Mhs) share a link please

Wolf0 (wink, wink) does not share links.
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December 07, 2015, 09:32:04 PM
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forum and official website is down for an hour or so.

scheduled maintenance by the hoster.

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December 07, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
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where we can find the miner for 280x (4Mhs) share a link please

Wolf0 (wink, wink) does not share links.

wolf creates and codes the optimizations himself ...

you can buy these private optimizations IF he is willing to sell them ...

otherwise - its for his own use ...

contact him - you never know ...

#crysx

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December 08, 2015, 12:01:12 AM
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300 SPR for the person that guesses when Georgem goes Legendary (nearest will do).

What is the criteria for going Legendary?

Also, by when, do you mean a specific date?

No specific dates...but he's about to pop.
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300 SPR for the person that guesses when Georgem goes Legendary (nearest will do).

What is the criteria for going Legendary?

Also, by when, do you mean a specific date?

No specific dates...but he's about to pop.

Alright I guess I will participate.  I will say December 11th - Georgem will go Legen(wait for it)dary!

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December 08, 2015, 06:24:19 AM
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300 SPR for the person that guesses when Georgem goes Legendary (nearest will do).
I'm going to say that he will go Legendary on Jan. 8th Cheesy

 

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December 08, 2015, 06:32:56 AM
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300 SPR for the person that guesses when Georgem goes Legendary (nearest will do).

What is the criteria for going Legendary?

Also, by when, do you mean a specific date?

No specific dates...but he's about to pop.

How about the eve of Christmas... Dec. 24th, 2015. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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December 08, 2015, 07:02:49 AM
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300 SPR for the person that guesses when Georgem goes Legendary (nearest will do).

My bet is on 2. 2. 2016  Tongue
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How fast is SP miner on 750Ti ? It makes ~ 1500kh/s with official nvminer
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