Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

I ask BADecker one thing, prove to me that your christian God exists, logically. I'm not looking for the elementary, downright retarded, regular bullshit answers you give about "faith" and such, I want proof. I also don't want any history, science, or personal experience to be your so called "proof".

Go ahead.

How many times haven't I pointed you towards the stuff written here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Don't go look at the stuff in the link. It is a waste of time for you. As long as you are unwilling to look with even the idea that it might be true, it is useless for you to look.

Rather, continue on in your self-blinding ways.

So you admit you cannot prove God exists logically,

I admit that the evidences that show the existence of God will not be sufficient proof for everyone.

so then you believe in god out of blind faith...nice...

No, it isn't blind faith. For example, how many times hasn't something like this happened:

The house was built. The wooden steps leading from the walk to the porch were completed. The carpenter did his job well.

For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg.

We have the evidence based on experience. We have the faith, because obviously he didn't know the reality of the situation. To the appearances of some people, the faith would have been well placed. Others who were more sensitive or better thinkers or more experienced would have said that the steps should be checked for rot.

No proof. No blind faith. Reasonable evidence. Evidence interpreted differently. Way down deep, hope that the evidence was correct. Possibly lack of consideration of the possibilities.

There we go, now all can see.

Yes. Now we can see how silly your points are. You want your freedom so badly, that you are willing to mix things up enough that you can still have logic, but without looking at the possibilities, and sufficiently considering the evidence.

We human beings aren't built for that kind of freedom. If we were, we would have the ability to jump to the moon unaided, without any rockets, using simply our own legs. There are multitudes of ways that we don't have freedom. Your logic is weakening your freedom rather than strengthening it.

BTW, the things in your link are all irrelevant and wildly untrue, they're all subjective opinions of yours,,

There are many other people who would and do suggest the opposite. Most of them don't post in this forum, because they are too busy living life to its fullest and doing important things, to sit here and explain your childishness to you.

stop spamming that bullshit.

You haven't offered me any compensation for following your orders. Rather, you would seem to enslave me by taking away my freedom to post as I wish. Are you a mod? Come on, man. At least suggest an amount. I only accept bitcoins. Let me know how much you'll send, and if it is enough, I'll send you my Bitcoin address, and then I'll reword it so that even you won't think that it is bullshit.

 

You're wrong on everything...again.



"For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg."

Your analogy is actually hurting your own cause and shows that your definition of "faith" leads to hurt. That man believed that his steps would support him, somewhat indefinitely, then one day it broke, showing that his faith in the stairs was a false one. Looking for other possibilities is looking for evidences that the stairs might one day collapse and need repair, that man did not such thing, and could have avoided hurt if he used evidence instead of blind faith, which he did.

So thanks, you yourself just admitted that you're wrong. I truly can't believe you're this stupid...

My analogy of faith enforces my case, because, when you apply it to both theism and atheism, it is atheism that collapses much easier. And probably theism won't collapse at all.

While I don't want you to get hurt when your atheism collapses, if you insist...

Well, I won't add insult to injury by coming back and saying "I told you so."

You make absolutely no sense. K...

You make complete sense. You are either a troll, or you are a child that is good at playing with the English language even though you make no sense using it.

You yourself made a analogy upon which showed that having blind faith is illogical instead of using evidence, proving me right and you wrong. You're an idiot kid....

Since the evidence for the existence of God is way stronger than the evidence against His existence, any "blind" faith that that exists will be much blinder regarding God not existing.

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[maheshmahi]

I don't hate the religion but i had the rules that they had created to follow.
Being a Hindu also i love Christianity.
Everyone should be in unity in diversity.

[celestio]

I ask BADecker one thing, prove to me that your christian God exists, logically. I'm not looking for the elementary, downright retarded, regular bullshit answers you give about "faith" and such, I want proof. I also don't want any history, science, or personal experience to be your so called "proof".

Go ahead.

How many times haven't I pointed you towards the stuff written here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Don't go look at the stuff in the link. It is a waste of time for you. As long as you are unwilling to look with even the idea that it might be true, it is useless for you to look.

Rather, continue on in your self-blinding ways.

So you admit you cannot prove God exists logically,

I admit that the evidences that show the existence of God will not be sufficient proof for everyone.

so then you believe in god out of blind faith...nice...

No, it isn't blind faith. For example, how many times hasn't something like this happened:

The house was built. The wooden steps leading from the walk to the porch were completed. The carpenter did his job well.

For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg.

We have the evidence based on experience. We have the faith, because obviously he didn't know the reality of the situation. To the appearances of some people, the faith would have been well placed. Others who were more sensitive or better thinkers or more experienced would have said that the steps should be checked for rot.

No proof. No blind faith. Reasonable evidence. Evidence interpreted differently. Way down deep, hope that the evidence was correct. Possibly lack of consideration of the possibilities.

There we go, now all can see.

Yes. Now we can see how silly your points are. You want your freedom so badly, that you are willing to mix things up enough that you can still have logic, but without looking at the possibilities, and sufficiently considering the evidence.

We human beings aren't built for that kind of freedom. If we were, we would have the ability to jump to the moon unaided, without any rockets, using simply our own legs. There are multitudes of ways that we don't have freedom. Your logic is weakening your freedom rather than strengthening it.

BTW, the things in your link are all irrelevant and wildly untrue, they're all subjective opinions of yours,,

There are many other people who would and do suggest the opposite. Most of them don't post in this forum, because they are too busy living life to its fullest and doing important things, to sit here and explain your childishness to you.

stop spamming that bullshit.

You haven't offered me any compensation for following your orders. Rather, you would seem to enslave me by taking away my freedom to post as I wish. Are you a mod? Come on, man. At least suggest an amount. I only accept bitcoins. Let me know how much you'll send, and if it is enough, I'll send you my Bitcoin address, and then I'll reword it so that even you won't think that it is bullshit.

 

You're wrong on everything...again.



"For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg."

Your analogy is actually hurting your own cause and shows that your definition of "faith" leads to hurt. That man believed that his steps would support him, somewhat indefinitely, then one day it broke, showing that his faith in the stairs was a false one. Looking for other possibilities is looking for evidences that the stairs might one day collapse and need repair, that man did not such thing, and could have avoided hurt if he used evidence instead of blind faith, which he did.

So thanks, you yourself just admitted that you're wrong. I truly can't believe you're this stupid...

My analogy of faith enforces my case, because, when you apply it to both theism and atheism, it is atheism that collapses much easier. And probably theism won't collapse at all.

While I don't want you to get hurt when your atheism collapses, if you insist...

Well, I won't add insult to injury by coming back and saying "I told you so."

You make absolutely no sense. K...

You make complete sense. You are either a troll, or you are a child that is good at playing with the English language even though you make no sense using it.

You yourself made a analogy upon which showed that having blind faith is illogical instead of using evidence, proving me right and you wrong. You're an idiot kid....

Since the evidence for the existence of God is way stronger than the evidence against His existence, any "blind" faith that that exists will be much blinder regarding God not existing.

There is no evidence except logical or mathematical. Nothing you've posted is evidence, it's simply your opinion(and it's all very wrong). Just stop.

[Lauda]

-snip-
Yes, his actions are good and they help people who are not him, but I would still tell you that the primary motivation to his actions are about himself, which is selfish.
-snip-

This does not apply. The majority of people will feel "good" or whatnot when they do something that is morally classified as good. We can not stop this feeling, i.e. the chemical reactions in the brain (at least not yet).
We, as humans, tend to repeat things that makes us feel good. This is within our nature. This can't be compared to doing things for the sake of salvation.
You're comparing doing this because it makes us feel good and doing this because we are going to win the lottery (i.e. go to heaven). Apples and peaches.

I'm talking about the people that complained about Gavin, the fork and whatnot. Although let's not go that far off topic.

I've been watching so many altcoins I guess I haven't been paying enough attention to Bitcoin lately.
who was trying to crucify Gavin? he seems like a pretty nice guy I wonder if he is Christian or atheist lol

as far as I am concerned it wouldn't bother me at all if Gavin or even Satoshi were any religion or none.
I tend to judge people based upon their actions, not on the kinds of books they read (or games they play).

I think the internet just attracts weird people in general. I wouldn't put too much stock in the things people say when they are online.. more often than not they say things that they would never dare to say to a persons face.

His proposal for the 20MB block size has caused different reactions within the community. The majority that were against it were trying to find just about any reason to justify their hidden authority problem.

That might be the case but it does not have to. Maybe people are just showing their real faces thinking that this minor wall of anonymity will save them from consequences.

[jaysabi]

-snip-
Yes, his actions are good and they help people who are not him, but I would still tell you that the primary motivation to his actions are about himself, which is selfish.
-snip-

This does not apply. The majority of people will feel "good" or whatnot when they do something that is morally classified as good. We can not stop this feeling, i.e. the chemical reactions in the brain (at least not yet).
We, as humans, tend to repeat things that makes us feel good. This is within our nature. This can't be compared to doing things for the sake of salvation.
You're comparing doing this because it makes us feel good and doing this because we are going to win the lottery (i.e. go to heaven). Apples and peaches.

Nothing you said contradicted anything I said. In fact it reinforces it.  "We, as humans, tend to repeat things that makes us feel good. This is within our nature."  That's exactly my point: our nature is selfish. Instead of assigning a value to that and using it as a claim of superiority (e.g. I don't act out of a desire for salvation, so I must be a better person), just recognize it's the same for everyone. We all act to fulfill our own desires.

[lahm-44]

I was a Athesist once but why do some
Atesists hate religious..the answer is not that simple thought..athesist compares god with unicorn so it clearly flashes some good points about this topic.

[BADecker]

I ask BADecker one thing, prove to me that your christian God exists, logically. I'm not looking for the elementary, downright retarded, regular bullshit answers you give about "faith" and such, I want proof. I also don't want any history, science, or personal experience to be your so called "proof".

Go ahead.

How many times haven't I pointed you towards the stuff written here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Don't go look at the stuff in the link. It is a waste of time for you. As long as you are unwilling to look with even the idea that it might be true, it is useless for you to look.

Rather, continue on in your self-blinding ways.

So you admit you cannot prove God exists logically,

I admit that the evidences that show the existence of God will not be sufficient proof for everyone.

so then you believe in god out of blind faith...nice...

No, it isn't blind faith. For example, how many times hasn't something like this happened:

The house was built. The wooden steps leading from the walk to the porch were completed. The carpenter did his job well.

For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg.

We have the evidence based on experience. We have the faith, because obviously he didn't know the reality of the situation. To the appearances of some people, the faith would have been well placed. Others who were more sensitive or better thinkers or more experienced would have said that the steps should be checked for rot.

No proof. No blind faith. Reasonable evidence. Evidence interpreted differently. Way down deep, hope that the evidence was correct. Possibly lack of consideration of the possibilities.

There we go, now all can see.

Yes. Now we can see how silly your points are. You want your freedom so badly, that you are willing to mix things up enough that you can still have logic, but without looking at the possibilities, and sufficiently considering the evidence.

We human beings aren't built for that kind of freedom. If we were, we would have the ability to jump to the moon unaided, without any rockets, using simply our own legs. There are multitudes of ways that we don't have freedom. Your logic is weakening your freedom rather than strengthening it.

BTW, the things in your link are all irrelevant and wildly untrue, they're all subjective opinions of yours,,

There are many other people who would and do suggest the opposite. Most of them don't post in this forum, because they are too busy living life to its fullest and doing important things, to sit here and explain your childishness to you.

stop spamming that bullshit.

You haven't offered me any compensation for following your orders. Rather, you would seem to enslave me by taking away my freedom to post as I wish. Are you a mod? Come on, man. At least suggest an amount. I only accept bitcoins. Let me know how much you'll send, and if it is enough, I'll send you my Bitcoin address, and then I'll reword it so that even you won't think that it is bullshit.

 

You're wrong on everything...again.



"For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg."

Your analogy is actually hurting your own cause and shows that your definition of "faith" leads to hurt. That man believed that his steps would support him, somewhat indefinitely, then one day it broke, showing that his faith in the stairs was a false one. Looking for other possibilities is looking for evidences that the stairs might one day collapse and need repair, that man did not such thing, and could have avoided hurt if he used evidence instead of blind faith, which he did.

So thanks, you yourself just admitted that you're wrong. I truly can't believe you're this stupid...

My analogy of faith enforces my case, because, when you apply it to both theism and atheism, it is atheism that collapses much easier. And probably theism won't collapse at all.

While I don't want you to get hurt when your atheism collapses, if you insist...

Well, I won't add insult to injury by coming back and saying "I told you so."

You make absolutely no sense. K...

You make complete sense. You are either a troll, or you are a child that is good at playing with the English language even though you make no sense using it.

You yourself made a analogy upon which showed that having blind faith is illogical instead of using evidence, proving me right and you wrong. You're an idiot kid....

Since the evidence for the existence of God is way stronger than the evidence against His existence, any "blind" faith that that exists will be much blinder regarding God not existing.

There is no evidence except logical or mathematical. Nothing you've posted is evidence, it's simply your opinion(and it's all very wrong). Just stop.

Now don't go off and suicide yourself just because you can't stand being wrong anymore. Rather, turn to God. He is merciful and loving. He'll be happy to have you join with him.

 

[Gimpeline]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDp7pkEcJVQ

[amazon4u]

I ask BADecker one thing, prove to me that your christian God exists, logically. I'm not looking for the elementary, downright retarded, regular bullshit answers you give about "faith" and such, I want proof. I also don't want any history, science, or personal experience to be your so called "proof".

Go ahead.

How many times haven't I pointed you towards the stuff written here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Don't go look at the stuff in the link. It is a waste of time for you. As long as you are unwilling to look with even the idea that it might be true, it is useless for you to look.

Rather, continue on in your self-blinding ways.

So you admit you cannot prove God exists logically,

I admit that the evidences that show the existence of God will not be sufficient proof for everyone.

so then you believe in god out of blind faith...nice...

No, it isn't blind faith. For example, how many times hasn't something like this happened:

The house was built. The wooden steps leading from the walk to the porch were completed. The carpenter did his job well.

For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg.

We have the evidence based on experience. We have the faith, because obviously he didn't know the reality of the situation. To the appearances of some people, the faith would have been well placed. Others who were more sensitive or better thinkers or more experienced would have said that the steps should be checked for rot.

No proof. No blind faith. Reasonable evidence. Evidence interpreted differently. Way down deep, hope that the evidence was correct. Possibly lack of consideration of the possibilities.

There we go, now all can see.

Yes. Now we can see how silly your points are. You want your freedom so badly, that you are willing to mix things up enough that you can still have logic, but without looking at the possibilities, and sufficiently considering the evidence.

We human beings aren't built for that kind of freedom. If we were, we would have the ability to jump to the moon unaided, without any rockets, using simply our own legs. There are multitudes of ways that we don't have freedom. Your logic is weakening your freedom rather than strengthening it.

BTW, the things in your link are all irrelevant and wildly untrue, they're all subjective opinions of yours,,

There are many other people who would and do suggest the opposite. Most of them don't post in this forum, because they are too busy living life to its fullest and doing important things, to sit here and explain your childishness to you.

stop spamming that bullshit.

You haven't offered me any compensation for following your orders. Rather, you would seem to enslave me by taking away my freedom to post as I wish. Are you a mod? Come on, man. At least suggest an amount. I only accept bitcoins. Let me know how much you'll send, and if it is enough, I'll send you my Bitcoin address, and then I'll reword it so that even you won't think that it is bullshit.

 

You're wrong on everything...again.



"For 20 years the wooden steps remained solid, or so thought the homeowner. He used those steps virtually every day. His experience with the steps led him to believe the steps were strong. He had the evidence of 20 years in which to place his faith. Then one time, he stepped on the steps, and they fell through, and he broke his leg."

Your analogy is actually hurting your own cause and shows that your definition of "faith" leads to hurt. That man believed that his steps would support him, somewhat indefinitely, then one day it broke, showing that his faith in the stairs was a false one. Looking for other possibilities is looking for evidences that the stairs might one day collapse and need repair, that man did not such thing, and could have avoided hurt if he used evidence instead of blind faith, which he did.

So thanks, you yourself just admitted that you're wrong. I truly can't believe you're this stupid...

My analogy of faith enforces my case, because, when you apply it to both theism and atheism, it is atheism that collapses much easier. And probably theism won't collapse at all.

While I don't want you to get hurt when your atheism collapses, if you insist...

Well, I won't add insult to injury by coming back and saying "I told you so."

You make absolutely no sense. K...

You make complete sense. You are either a troll, or you are a child that is good at playing with the English language even though you make no sense using it.

You yourself made a analogy upon which showed that having blind faith is illogical instead of using evidence, proving me right and you wrong. You're an idiot kid....

Since the evidence for the existence of God is way stronger than the evidence against His existence, any "blind" faith that that exists will be much blinder regarding God not existing.

There is no evidence except logical or mathematical. Nothing you've posted is evidence, it's simply your opinion(and it's all very wrong). Just stop.

Now don't go off and suicide yourself just because you can't stand being wrong anymore. Rather, turn to God. He is merciful and loving. He'll be happy to have you join with him.

 

Sure, go join with him...make some donations to the church...God doesn't want you dead he wants you as a contributor, he loves you... he's almighty , all-knowing  but somehow he can't handle money....He always needs money...

[BADecker]

Since the evidence for the existence of God is way stronger than the evidence against His existence, any "blind" faith that that exists will be much blinder regarding God not existing.

There is no evidence except logical or mathematical. Nothing you've posted is evidence, it's simply your opinion(and it's all very wrong). Just stop.

Now don't go off and suicide yourself just because you can't stand being wrong anymore. Rather, turn to God. He is merciful and loving. He'll be happy to have you join with him.

 

Sure, go join with him...make some donations to the church...God doesn't want you dead he wants you as a contributor, he loves you... he's almighty , all-knowing  but somehow he can't handle money....He always needs money...

Money isn't very tasty.

That's why you get rid of your money as fast as you make it... buying food, etc.

Since God is the formulator of everything that the food, etc., comes from and is made out of, you are essentially giving your money to God just to live and have enjoyment in this life.

Honor God with your money, and your heartfelt thanks, and He will reward you even more.

[Pentax]

I can't tell the difference between ABC News, Hill Street Blues
And a preacher on the old time gospel hour
Stealing money from the sick and the old
Well the God I believe in isn't short of cash, mister!

-U2 From the "Rattle and Hum" Album

[the joint]

Since the evidence for the existence of God is way stronger than the evidence against His existence, any "blind" faith that that exists will be much blinder regarding God not existing.

There is no evidence except logical or mathematical. Nothing you've posted is evidence, it's simply your opinion(and it's all very wrong). Just stop.

Now don't go off and suicide yourself just because you can't stand being wrong anymore. Rather, turn to God. He is merciful and loving. He'll be happy to have you join with him.

 

Sure, go join with him...make some donations to the church...God doesn't want you dead he wants you as a contributor, he loves you... he's almighty , all-knowing  but somehow he can't handle money....He always needs money...

Money isn't very tasty.

That's why you get rid of your money as fast as you make it... buying food, etc.

Since God is the formulator of everything that the food, etc., comes from and is made out of, you are essentially giving your money to God just to live and have enjoyment in this life.

Honor God with your money, and your heartfelt thanks, and He will reward you even more.

I'll just repost this for the giggles:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10754502#msg10754502

[BADecker]

Since the evidence for the existence of God is way stronger than the evidence against His existence, any "blind" faith that that exists will be much blinder regarding God not existing.

There is no evidence except logical or mathematical. Nothing you've posted is evidence, it's simply your opinion(and it's all very wrong). Just stop.

Now don't go off and suicide yourself just because you can't stand being wrong anymore. Rather, turn to God. He is merciful and loving. He'll be happy to have you join with him.

 

Sure, go join with him...make some donations to the church...God doesn't want you dead he wants you as a contributor, he loves you... he's almighty , all-knowing  but somehow he can't handle money....He always needs money...

Money isn't very tasty.

That's why you get rid of your money as fast as you make it... buying food, etc.

Since God is the formulator of everything that the food, etc., comes from and is made out of, you are essentially giving your money to God just to live and have enjoyment in this life.

Honor God with your money, and your heartfelt thanks, and He will reward you even more.

I'll just repost this for the giggles:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10754502#msg10754502

From http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/:

Sick of taking Orders and earning no money from complying with the Orders?

Buy an Invoice Pad today, to BILL the next Public SERVANT that Orders thou [You] !

(thou = singular cf. Ye - Nominative / You - Objective which are Plurals... i will explain later)

Example:

When A[NY] Public SERVANT stops thou at the side of the road and Orders a PERFORMANCE of and/or from thou by way of the use of His (or Her) Voice, these  UTTERANCES are defined as HIS (or HER) Wishes AND Orders delivered upon thou (placing a Burden Upon thou!)

 Example(s) :

    ORDERS thou as a [wo]man to get out of YOUR car !
    ORDERS thou, as a [wo]man  to "GIVE-UP" up his or her  "GIVEN-name"!
    ORDERS thou, as a [wo]man to perform ANY task (such as hand-over a Licence)!
    et ceteras, et cetaras, et ceteras...

Deliever Upon HIM (or HER) a BILL (an INVOICE) !

(BILL / INVOICE: c. 1400; that of "order to pay" ( technically 'Bill of Exchange' is from 1570s)

Example:

When "HE" or "SHE" ( a Public Servant) makes their WISHES to perform known and ORDER(s) Upon thou ( a man or woman) make sure to require of Him or Her to remember "Fair-and-Just" COMPENSATION, is now due for carrying-out His or Her Wishes and ORDER(s)!

So then in my common law court, once I have the judgement for the man [cop] to pay me his bond for all the orders he gave me and I filled, he won't be able to afford a new bond, so he will lose his job.

They'll still let him go to church. After all, his wife will pay his tithes out of whatever earnings she gets.

 

[jaysabi]

When you post garabage about your common law fantasy, you look even sillier than when you're trying to keep all your religious nonsense straight.

[the joint]

When you post garabage about your common law fantasy, you look even sillier than when you're trying to keep all your religious nonsense straight.

Is this related to that "Freeman on the Land" garbage I've seen when people make complete fools of themselves in court and post it on YouTube as a win?

[jaysabi]

When you post garabage about your common law fantasy, you look even sillier than when you're trying to keep all your religious nonsense straight.

Is this related to that "Freeman on the Land" garbage I've seen when people make complete fools of themselves in court and post it on YouTube as a win?

Possibly. BADecker is on some thing about how all you have to do is challenge the jurisdiction of the court by telling them to define certain magic words and then you COMMON LAW VICTORY WIN or something wholly ridiculous. (While I am intentionally making it sound dumb, ask him for the official logic of it, and then you'll see my intentional misrepresentation isn't actually more absurd, and has the added benefit of humor, whereas the people who believe they have discovered a magic 'get out of jail free card' are entirely serious.)

[deisik]

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Quite simple. If you believe and God exists, you'll be rewarded. If God doesn't exist, you lose nothing. Therefore believing is more optimal strategy in life (and beyond), which atheists simply can't agree with and humbly resign themselves to...

[cryptodevil]

Quite simple. If you believe and God exists, you'll be rewarded. If God doesn't exist, you lose nothing. Therefore believing is more optimal strategy in life (and beyond), which atheists simply can't agree with and humbly resign themselves to...

Fail.

Which God are you supposed to believe in? If you choose the wrong one, which would be a high probability given the many thousands and thousands of possible gods from historical myth and legend, you'd be punished more for worshiping a 'false idol' than you would for electing not to worship any of them. This we know from the numerous 'holy' scriptures that magically dictate WhatGodWants(tm), something which is conveniently in complete alignment with the person professing a claim to such knowledge.

God is generally a needy bastard who doesn't take kindly to his ignorant minions worshiping the wrong deity.

[deisik]

Quite simple. If you believe and God exists, you'll be rewarded. If God doesn't exist, you lose nothing. Therefore believing is more optimal strategy in life (and beyond), which atheists simply can't agree with and humbly resign themselves to...

Fail.

Which God are you supposed to believe in? If you choose the wrong one, which would be a high probability given the many thousands and thousands of possible gods from historical myth and legend, you'd be punished more for worshiping a 'false idol' than you would for electing not to worship any of them. This we know from the numerous 'holy' scriptures that magically dictate WhatGodWants(tm), something which is conveniently in complete alignment with the person professing a claim to such knowledge.

God is generally a needy bastard who doesn't take kindly to his ignorant minions worshiping the wrong deity.

By any means, sincere ignorance is more forgivable than downright defiance, so you won't get away cheap when the reckoning starts...

[khawaja07]

Religious debaters are usually very smooth and well prepared. The reason is not that their arguments are so persuasive but that they generally have spent years polishing the same old arguments….