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August 08, 2015, 07:26:35 AM
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August 08, 2015, 07:39:25 AM
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That PM didn't come from me, by the way.

And also I didn't intend any offense mate. Let's enjoy life while we have it. Where's the barbie and the beer  Grin

None taken,

The beer is in the fridge, the barbie can wait til summer  Cheesy
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August 08, 2015, 09:00:14 AM
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That PM didn't come from me, by the way.

And also I didn't intend any offense mate. Let's enjoy life while we have it. Where's the barbie and the beer  Grin

None taken,

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August 08, 2015, 10:02:13 AM
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Of course life may just be an illusion of some local friction. On the whole, the entropy of the Universe might be constant but we'd have to be outside the Universe (be able to navigate spacetime at a rate greater than the speed-of-light) to falsify it thus the catch-22 (due to the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle). But for us to have our lives as we perceive them, then we must have relativity (due to friction).

So fight as you want against the free market which marching towards greater entropy, greater maximum division-of-labor, and greater decentralization, but nature always wins on a sufficient spacetime scale. Coasian local orders persist until they don't, e.g. the Google effect you cited.

The entropy of the Universe is (funnily) increasing; at least from our point of view of the Universe (remember, we're constantly accelerating!). To make it clear, we're heading to a Universe with maximum entropy and minimum chaos. The in between fluctuations of chaotic events are just the ripples of the waves on a "quiet" river that bumps over the rocks within. In essence, if we had a way to live forever (meaning we'd be able to observe the "end" of our Universe) everything would have been in an awkward "taxis" to introduce a Greek word to describe it.

The most philosophical question of all times though, would have been, if we're on a loop. We actually maybe are, but as a scientist, I can only accept whatever I can measure; so it's a possibility but not certainty. On the other hand, in QM there's no certainty at all; meaning that we can never be sure if we are able to observe ALL the possible "reality" but only a fraction of it (the one we actually observe). Here's a nice experiment that proves it:

http://www.gizmag.com/quantum-theory-reality-anu/37866/

The Anthropocentric model, could very well explain the abnormalities that are described above, but it's nothing but a philosophical theory and not a scientific approach. More here:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630190-500-the-human-universe-does-consciousness-create-reality/

Last but not least, we need to be multi-scientists to construct a TOE that describes everything, which (again) even if it's formed, it can never be complete as the Goedel Theorem of incompleteness suggests...

And these are the words of John von Neumann (1963):

... there have been within the experience of people now living at least three serious crises... There have been two such crises in physics---namely, the conceptual soul-searching connected with the discovery of relativity and the conceptual difficulties connected with discoveries in quantum theory... The third crisis was in mathematics. It was a very serious conceptual crisis, dealing with rigor and the proper way to carry out a correct mathematical proof. In view of the earlier notions of the absolute rigor of mathematics, it is surprising that such a thing could have happened, and even more surprising that it could have happened in these latter days when miracles are not supposed to take place. Yet it did happen.

Chaos could be a form of intelligence we cannot yet understand its complexity.
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August 08, 2015, 01:03:50 PM
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Last but not least, we need to be multi-scientists to construct a TOE that describes everything, which (again) even if it's formed, it can never be complete as the Goedel Theorem of incompleteness suggests...

That is only true if it attempts to enumerates a complete set. A TOE which describes a relationship without enumerating computable sets is plausible. Thus it might not be falsifiable.

We are making reader's heads hurt.

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August 08, 2015, 05:23:17 PM
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Last but not least, we need to be multi-scientists to construct a TOE that describes everything, which (again) even if it's formed, it can never be complete as the Goedel Theorem of incompleteness suggests...

That is only true if it attempts to enumerates a complete set. A TOE which describes a relationship without enumerating computable sets is plausible. Thus it might not be falsifiable.

We are making reader's heads hurt.

Indeed, this is a valid point. Science is not perfect after all, BUT; it's adequate for us to be able to explain *some* of what's there. In mathematical terms, it's pretty much the same as one is trying to express infinity via 1/x, where x->0. In most cases, he has to figure out a large enough number to solve the respective equation. On the other hand, there are some people obsessed to find what the limit is!

It reminds me back in 1999 when I got first involved into a distributed computing network that was trying to find if the prime numbers are finite; the problem well known as "The Sierpinski Problem". Collective computation via internet networking (aka:distributed computing) was something that was a significant factor for me to get involved in the first place. I became a member of a team (namely, 17orbust) and start calculating away.

Later on, I decided to become a Physicist (on my 30s) because I discovered the magic of the Science behind it. Then became a Chemist & lately Biologist, trying to figure out what their limits are... You get my point...

As for the head hurting part, if anyone has the ability (or psychopathy) to follow this conversation up until now, there's only gain for him/her.
As Arnold Schwarzenegger once said: No pain, no gain. Wink

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August 09, 2015, 04:30:31 AM
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Interesting perspective on the interplay between Deflation, the US Fed, pension funds and mandatory bond holdings.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35775
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August 09, 2015, 06:17:02 AM
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Documented list of warnings from IMF and BIS

http://lonestarwhitehouse.blogspot.com/p/documented-list-of-imf-and-bis-warnings.html

The July 2015 Ft article adds to MA's comments on pension funds, stating that they may have a solvency problem in the case of volatile markets turning against them due to the companies they have invested in. From my readings, one such market I wouldn't want my money invested in is the junk bond market for energy (eg Oil)
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August 09, 2015, 01:09:37 PM
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...Looks like week of Aug 10 will ensue the big sell off in gold (and probably also Bitcoin):




Originally posted on MA's blog 20th July.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35149

Well, here we almost are. Let's see if anything happens.
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August 09, 2015, 01:19:34 PM
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Buttcoin took a bit of a dive in the last 24 hr

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August 09, 2015, 02:40:10 PM
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Buttcoin took a bit of a dive in the last 24 hr

Yeah, I noticed. I gambled on getting out at $313, when Syriza capitulated; realizing there might be a double top, but imagining even if it did, it might not go that much higher anyway.

As for gold (also out, dead on MA's indicated Jan pop), I wonder if we will see it hover just above $1,000 this week and then have the low proper early 2016?

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August 09, 2015, 03:05:49 PM
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I hope all of you have reviewed my posts in the kLee's PnF thread in the Economics -> Speculation forum.

You will find there people who will verify that I have predicted all of the major moves of the BTC price since the top last 2013. For example, I predicted the $315 top recently for the bounce exactly. And I made that prediction back in May when we were loitering in the low $200s.

You might also view my prescient public prediction for silver back in 2010 predicting the rise from $26 to $48 by March to May 2011 and then a fall to $26:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article23786.html

I am able to do this by understanding very well both group psychology and more importantly because I understand Martin Armstrong's $1 billion supercomputer model of the history of the world, which for example predicted the closing price of oil at $54 for Dec. 31, 2014, back when oil was $100. I distinctly remember reading his blog back in August 2012 when the DJIA was correcting back below 12,000 and he predicted a steady rise from there to a possible double or triple. He also said that if it topped @ 18,000 in 2015, then that would be the sign that the USA stock markets had phase shifted (from being a public asset such as sovereign bonds) and aligned with private assets (such as gold, collectibles, Bitcoin). The point being that private assets peaked in 2011 (Bitcoin 2013 because it was playing catch up) and they will make their lows as the liquidity crisis accelerates and the final move into the short-end of the yield curve for bonds in Europe this October.

So gold, Bitcoin, and altcoins will be making their lows this coming spring 2016. This is 100% certain.

Expect gold to drop to < $700 ($680), Bitcoin will drop to double-digits again, and altcoins will be demolished fall to perhaps 1/5 their current prices.


So do NOT buy altcoins now. You want to be selling everything and moving to $dollars and wait.

As the Europe crisis accelerates this September - January, cash will be king. Japan will follow for its final leg down on its 26 year crisis culmination.

All over the world, capital is going to be stampeding into the $dollar and then USA stocks as safe haven. By 2017.9, we will see the DJIA double in price.

Private assets such as Bitcoin and gold, will get sold off severely because the shorts will pile on once they smell blood. The bottom will be reached by short covering, not by bulls. The bulls will be exhausted and have lost most of their capital by selling at the lows (which is what always happens to delusional fools who believe in an investing GOD as if BITGOD is something that can disobey the normal laws of investing).

I am telling you this because I want you to reserve some $dollar cash, so that you will be able to buy BTC and any world changing altcoin in Spring 2016 and become incredibly wealthy.

Ignore my warning at your peril!




...Looks like week of Aug 10 will ensue the big sell off in gold (and probably also Bitcoin):




Originally posted on MA's blog 20th July.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35149

Well, here we almost are. Let's see if anything happens.

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August 09, 2015, 04:58:57 PM
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It's gonna really tough for me to give up on my Monero Sad
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August 09, 2015, 05:11:19 PM
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It's gonna really tough for me to give up on my Monero Sad

Why would you give up? Selling and repurchasing at lower prices is giving up?

Or do you mean that you bought at higher prices and feel not good about selling at a loss?

P.S. the only argument I could make for why altcoins would not go down while BTC and gold are, is that it might be more difficult to short them? I don't know.

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August 09, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
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So gold, Bitcoin, and altcoins will be making their lows this coming spring 2016. This is 100% certain.

Expect gold to drop to < $700 ($680), Bitcoin will drop to double-digits again, and altcoins will be demolished fall to perhaps 1/5 their current prices.


I am telling you this because I want you to reserve some $dollar cash, so that you will be able to buy BTC and any world changing altcoin in Spring 2016 and become incredibly wealthy.


MA from July 30. "The Supply Side of Gold":

"...Well, when it rains, it pours. In the Sudan, a large discovery of gold amounting to 43 tons has occurred, an amount expected to rise to 80 tons by the end of 2015, which is equivalent to a market value estimate of $2,555,262,400 if the market stays the same. The entire U.S. gold reserve is 8,000 tons. So, we are talking about a sizable discovery in the Sudan. The Sudanese government anticipates mining an additional 100 tons of gold in 2016.

From a supply-demand perspective, this could crush gold psychologically. In the long run, it will only have an impact when demand lags. It all depends upon the cost of production. When the monetary system cracks, that will be the focus. The markets will cherry-pick the news for that is always what they do...."


http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35498


I'm wondering if this discovery is likely to significantly lower the low.
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August 09, 2015, 05:20:42 PM
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I'm wondering if this discovery is likely to significantly lower the low.

No.

The low is due to capital flows timing and mass psychology (confidence and loss of it).

MA is merely pointing out that this is fuel for driving to the predicted benchmark lows (which remain unchanged).

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August 09, 2015, 05:46:43 PM
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http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35782

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Rand Paul, on the other hand, showed he could not stand up to Christie. He revealed a lack of passion and commitment and that showed he was not really a leader. Very disappointing.

Paul got straight to the point that is not necessary to violate everyone's privacy in a false strawman that it aids fighting terrorism. He got thunderous applause.

But what we really see is that the American public would much prefer a guy who can top-down manage the world, than a modest guy who wants free markets.

And so the Americans may get their Trump card, who wants to empower the military-industrial complex more.

What this shows is that there is no solution that can come from voting for a government. The only solution is taking matters into our own individual hands. For that, we MUST have anonymity technology else we are doomed to the whims of the collective.

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August 09, 2015, 06:50:02 PM
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It's gonna really tough for me to give up on my Monero Sad

Why would you give up? Selling and repurchasing at lower prices is giving up?

Or do you mean that you bought at higher prices and feel not good about selling at a loss?

P.S. the only argument I could make for why altcoins would not go down while BTC and gold are, is that it might be more difficult to short them? I don't know.

It's certainly possible to short some of the altcoins listed on poloniex, see -> https://poloniex.com/lending#BTC. It isn't much tougher than shorting on bitfinex, but you could encounter lower liquidity.

The current lowest lending rate for XMR 0.0001% (I have a hard time comprehending why one would offer their XMR at such a rate taking counterparty risk in mind as well) though and thus implies there isn't really much demand for shorting XMR. However, this could change if the scenario you described above materializes.

Regarding lending: There is also 5k avaible at 0.0003%, which still is insanely low.

PS: I would like to hear your opinion on what I found:

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Approximately a week ago I calculated the correlation of GOLD/BTC.

Results:
Last year (29-07-2014 - 28-07-2014): 0,519572846
YTD (01-01-2015 - 28-07-2014): -0,562651161

Quite interesting I have to say. Unfortunately I was not able to produce a correlation chart over time. I would love to see such a graph.

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August 09, 2015, 07:28:43 PM
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PS: I would like to hear your opinion on what I found:

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Approximately a week ago I calculated the correlation of GOLD/BTC.

Results:
Last year (29-07-2014 - 28-07-2014): 0,519572846
YTD (01-01-2015 - 28-07-2014): -0,562651161

Quite interesting I have to say. Unfortunately I was not able to produce a correlation chart over time. I would love to see such a graph.

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I think perhaps you correlated the noise and didn't apply a smoothing filter.

BTC MUST NOT follow Gold and this seems NOT to be the case now...

I think they are roughly correlated in terms of general direction, so if you correlate them with smoothing filter, you get very high correlation.

But they are noisy in short-term and fall out of correlation.

Also BTC is apparently much more volatile than gold.

You are trying to focus in on much shorter-term moves in price action.

We may go up or down short-term, but over next months we are going much lower.

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PS: I would like to hear your opinion on what I found:

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Approximately a week ago I calculated the correlation of GOLD/BTC.

Results:
Last year (29-07-2014 - 28-07-2014): 0,519572846
YTD (01-01-2015 - 28-07-2014): -0,562651161

Quite interesting I have to say. Unfortunately I was not able to produce a correlation chart over time. I would love to see such a graph.

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I think perhaps you correlated the noise and didn't apply a smoothing filter.

BTC MUST NOT follow Gold and this seems NOT to be the case now...

I think they are roughly correlated in terms of general direction, so if you correlate them with smoothing filter, you get very high correlation.

But they are noisy in short-term and fall out of correlation.

Also BTC is apparently much more volatile than gold.

You are trying to focus in on much shorter-term moves in price action.

We may go up or down short-term, but over next months we are going much lower.

Hadn't seen that reply yet, but thanks for your opinion! I will try to calculate a smooth correlation. If I manage to do so I'll get back to you.

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