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May 30, 2023, 06:43:42 PM
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Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.

Inter is also happy to see this penalty - because if it were not there, then until the last round it would not be clear if Inter got a place in the top 4 or not. In general, this fine ruined absolutely everything - if not for it, we would have seen a tough struggle between the top trio for a ticket to the Champions League, but as a result, the club that received the penalty lost the ticket - in fact, this is not at all interesting.
It is true that many teams have benefited since the emergence of the problems experienced by Juventus and in the end some of these teams did not bother to fight for a place in the champions league. Actually, when Juventus were in position 2 in the last standings, I really expected intense competition between the teams, but what we saw was just a collection of luck throughout the season and forced us to accept these abnormal results. I hope Serie A will prioritize its attitude next season, if indeed from the start there is a team with problems like Juventus, they have to push it aside and don't give false hope and then drop it again.

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May 30, 2023, 06:53:30 PM
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Milan was indeed lucky to win Juve and qualify for the champions league next season. If it wasn't for Juve's point deduction,they would have be among the top four. I think next season will be a good season for Juve both the problem that they will have is that some players might leave the club due to their zeal to play in UCL. Milan will perform brilliantly in the champions league next season and I hope to see the best in them. Juve performance this season was good and they could maintain their quality and still finish at 7th position.

I don’t know if this is true, who do you think from Juventus is so ambitious that will leave Juventus for the Champions League? If there are such players, then you need to find a club that would accept them in the offseason, but we remember the recent story with Ronaldo, how he decided to leave Manchester United because of the desire to play in the Champions League, in the end it ended with the fact that he most likely will never be again play in this tournament.

Juventus are now in a turning point, Alegre pays a lot of attention to educating young players, it takes a little time, but now they will have time to try to win Serie A next year. Maybe it’s good that Milan won this match, they played well in the Champions League , and deserved to play again in this tournament.

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May 30, 2023, 07:52:04 PM
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I don't think the system is like that.
Juventus' condition if they can't shift Roma they will still be in 7th place and there may not be a place for the Conference League.
I don't know for sure about this but still reflect on previous cases, especially for last season when Frankfurt automatically went to the Champions League because they won the Europa League, it was still counted and did not shift other clubs and representatives from the Bundesliga there were 5 clubs.
It is also possible that it will be the same but I don't know what will happen if Roma's current conference League slot and they qualify for the Champions League whether there is a change from another Serie A club (in this case Juventus) or not.
What is clear is that if Roma are able to become champions they will get tickets to the ucl next season and their slot will probably be a struggle in the final match of the European conference League where Fiorentina vs West Ham. well if Fiorentina can win the European Conference League then they will qualify for the Europa League next season so I think that's the scenario. So if you look at the Serie A teams next season competing in the Europa league, of course they have quite a lot of representatives if the scenario goes like I said earlier.

Roma is really focused on the Europa League Final to become a champion and they must be able to try harder to be able to beat Sevilla because this is the path Rome must take if they want to compete in the Champions League next season.
It seems that this scenario is very possible rather than looking for a position in Serie A especially for now Fiorentina and West ham also did not get that position so this is likely to happen and indeed this is still quite worth seeing the continuation because it is likely that the decision will occur after the final in the first week of June.
But it is also quite interesting now about the steps that will be made for Sevilla and Roma in the final because after all this is a fairly important slot because whoever the champion is also ensures that there will be greater participation in the Champions League next season whether it will belong to La Liga or Serie A.


The Europa League final is very interesting now because looking at the current odds, it seems like we are still very difficult but of course this is the best chance we have especially with the odds given by the bookie.

Stefano Pioli's men only need one point to secure a ticket to the Champions League ahead of the match against Juventus, but because in that match they won automatically they are very safe and no one can chase their points in the top four of the standings. The match against Verona will not affect any results for AC Milan, so Pioli can relax a bit and doesn't need to field the main squad and can instead try to play his youth squad.

I'm a bit surprised with the results, I think Milan will be lose on this match. Lucky for Milan, they can manage to win. Pioli need to do something next season, because if AC Milan still like this, maybe they wouldn't qualified for UCL. This season AC milan lucky, becasue Juventus get a sanction. As your opinion, Milan need to  focus for better playing style for every matches.
Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.
It was a well-deserved stroke of luck, not only for Milan but also for Lazio who are also feeling a bit inconsistent at the moment.
Now it only remains to wait for the last match between several clubs that do adjust their positions, especially for the 5-7 standings which are currently filled by Atalanta, Roma and Juventus, which is still very interesting to see how surprises in the last week of matches in Serie A.

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May 30, 2023, 07:57:31 PM
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Week 38 as well as being the closing week in Serie A this season will be a decisive week for the two clubs, Verona and Spezia. Verona will face AC Milan, and Spexia will face AS Roma. For the two clubs it is clear that this will not be an easy match for them, because both of them will face strong clubs. Under these circumstances, Spezia actually benefits more, because if they lose then Spezia has a very big chance of being able to avoid the relegation zone. However, I'm looking forward to surprises from these two clubs, whether it's from Verona or Spezia, it will be a very interesting game.
I actually think Verona will benefit more because Verona will face AC Milan, a team that has been confirmed to finish in the top 4 of the Serie A standings.
while Spezia will compete against AS Roma, a team that is currently in tight competition with Juvetus to fight for 6th place in the standings so they can get a ticket to the Europa League next season.
AS Roma will play very insistently to win, while AC Milan is no longer so important in the last game, so I think Verona's chances of victory are much greater.
The conditions for now maybe have to see how Roma play in tomorrow's Europa League Final because regardless, it is up to Roma now whether they can win or not because if in the end they win and are automatically in the Champions League then they will also relax a bit for his current condition because he has secured a ticket. but on the other hand, if Roma lose in the final match, then there is really no reason they should not get points in the last week, especially with their condition which is still under threat from Juventus, so they will definitely do everything they can to get points.

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May 30, 2023, 08:02:54 PM
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Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.
Of course this is unusual as Juventus' loss becomes Milan's fortune. I agree Milan might not have deserved to be in the top 4 if Juventus didn't get a point deduction, but this is one of those things that was unexpected after Juventus got a penalty point towards the end of the season.

Milan have the opportunity to try to do better next season in the Champions League after failing in the semi-final derby against Inter. Obviously this is a rare opportunity, but in the end I admit Milan deserved it. Milan is also rumored to be bringing in several new players, I'm certainly curious about who they will sign next season.

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May 30, 2023, 08:07:29 PM
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Milan was indeed lucky to win Juve and qualify for the champions league next season. If it wasn't for Juve's point deduction,they would have be among the top four. I think next season will be a good season for Juve both the problem that they will have is that some players might leave the club due to their zeal to play in UCL. Milan will perform brilliantly in the champions league next season and I hope to see the best in them. Juve performance this season was good and they could maintain their quality and still finish at 7th position.
Yes, Milan should have no hope of finishing in the top four, but because of the penalty for Juventus, everything is different. Uniquely the Rossoneri were also able to win at home to Juventus where they successfully locked in the top four of the standings.

For next season, it is certainly difficult to predict who will be the best, because almost all teams will evaluate their respective teams. I think it's too early to judge the team's prospects for next season.



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May 30, 2023, 08:09:38 PM
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The match between Juventus and Milan is almost over and at the moment the score is unchanged even though Juventus has changed slightly for the second half but they have not been able to break down the defense of Milan so far.
It's quite unfortunate actually, even though in this case they have the opportunity to overtake Roma and Atalanta as well as put themselves in the Europa League zone but with this defeat everything will not happen even though the last match still has a chance but still it's different, especially Atalanta and Roma also won't want bad results and will surely do his best to stay in his current position.
Finally Ac milan was able to lock in 4th place and they qualified for the Champions league next season. I am quite happy with this result because they were able to steal full points at home to Juventus. Again, Giroud became Ac milan hero in this match because one of his goals was able to lead Ac milan to win this match. Indeed, Juventus had some pretty impressive opportunities to look at, but they still couldn't break into the AC Milan goal, which was guarded well by Maignan.

AC Milan trip this season has benefited enough from the reduction in Juventus points because otherwise they will definitely fail to close the season in the top 4 places. So for Juventus they still have hope of reaching 5th or 6th place if they are able to win the upcoming match and even then if Atalanta and Roma lose the next match.
Juventus points reduction and return have become a drama for this season because this is indeed one of the conditions where we are a little confused by the results that have occurred.
But in the end, we really have to congratulate Lazio and Milan, who are confirmed to have qualified for now, even though if Juventus were still in the same position before for position 2, it would be a little troublesome for the two of them to try to secure positions, but for now it looks like it's over. no need.
Now that this is the case, we will only see who will be in the relegation zone and who will advance to the Europa League and Conference League next season because this can only be determined in the last week. Currently 5 teams will still have to work hard for this because Spezia and Verona depend on their fate against big clubs in the top standings this season to survive, as well as Roma, Atalanta and Juventus who still have to show their quality in the last matches.

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May 30, 2023, 08:30:40 PM
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I still can't believe that Napoli ended up being that much better than everyone else. Nobody got even remotely close to them and they still beat everyone even after guaranteed that they would be the champions.

I understand they built a good team and I can see how they become champions, that's not the part I am shocked about, every season there is a champion, that part is normal, the part I am shocked that a team that wasn't this good last year, ended up being not only champion but at one point got closer to 20 points difference, over 15+ point difference when the season is over. That alone is a huge deal and I can't see how they managed to be that much dominant, it is definitely something they even themselves probably didn't see coming before the season started.

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May 30, 2023, 09:12:15 PM
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Inter is also happy to see this penalty - because if it were not there, then until the last round it would not be clear if Inter got a place in the top 4 or not. In general, this fine ruined absolutely everything - if not for it, we would have seen a tough struggle between the top trio for a ticket to the Champions League, but as a result, the club that received the penalty lost the ticket - in fact, this is not at all interesting.
It is true that many teams have benefited since the emergence of the problems experienced by Juventus and in the end some of these teams did not bother to fight for a place in the champions league. Actually, when Juventus were in position 2 in the last standings, I really expected intense competition between the teams, but what we saw was just a collection of luck throughout the season and forced us to accept these abnormal results. I hope Serie A will prioritize its attitude next season, if indeed from the start there is a team with problems like Juventus, they have to push it aside and don't give false hope and then drop it again.

I think this is the end of the scandal, in the end, after the previous violation, Juventus behaved decently for more than 10 years  Grin
Therefore, we can expect a calm next season without surprises. It’s a pity that most likely we will again see the dominance of the big four, but at the same time the results will be extremely random (which infuriates me as a better and as a pool member).

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May 30, 2023, 09:18:34 PM
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I still can't believe that Napoli ended up being that much better than everyone else. Nobody got even remotely close to them and they still beat everyone even after guaranteed that they would be the champions.

I understand they built a good team and I can see how they become champions, that's not the part I am shocked about, every season there is a champion, that part is normal, the part I am shocked that a team that wasn't this good last year, ended up being not only champion but at one point got closer to 20 points difference, over 15+ point difference when the season is over. That alone is a huge deal and I can't see how they managed to be that much dominant, it is definitely something they even themselves probably didn't see coming before the season started.

Isn't consistency interesting and sweet to behold with the eyes,  Napoli did week in week out to make sure they achieve what they missed out last season.  If they had won some vital games the lead would have been extended than it currently is.
But next season such performance will not be seen because they will sell some big names and we'll see some new names show casing for the club. The head coach too has plans off leaving. They did with determination do not forget they should have won the league too last season but they really let it slip before them.

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May 30, 2023, 09:27:48 PM
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It's a shame that Sampdoria had to be relegated to Serie B, I hope they can return to Serie A in the next few seasons, they weren't too prepared for the conditions of the players and financially so that made Sampdoria have no luck in Serie A this season, because they only won 3 just one game this season and have lost 24 times due to their poor defense.
Their performance this season has been terrible from the start. They even only won 3 matches and drew 10, and the rest lost 24 times. Imagine with statistics like that, it's only natural that they enter the lowest relegation zone. it is very unfortunate because their performance really dropped. They are also weak on all fronts, and lack the right strategy and tactics in every match

Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.
It's true, very lucky. They were able to enter the top 4 right away because Juventus had fallen to the bottom due to the reduction in points. They have definitely entered the UCL qualification, unless suddenly the point deduction is lifted and Juventus returns to its original position. It is possible that at this time all clubs will still not be able to calm down if this season has not ended because of the changes that have occurred in their league.

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May 30, 2023, 10:03:29 PM
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Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.
Indeed Ac milan qualified for the Champions league this season none other than the luck of the point deduction received by juventus which allowed Ac milan to maximize this opportunity as best as possible. If you look at Ac milan performance this season, I dare say they performed quite badly because they didn't win a single trophy this season. Ac milan was knocked out by inter milan from the Champions League and it hurts a lot if we see because they lost ower two leg and also Ac milan was knocked out by inter milan in the Italian Super Cup final this season.

This failure purely has to be corrected as best as possible by Pioli in the transfer window later this summer because if they fail to do so then I'm not sure that Ac Milan will have a stronger force for next season.

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May 30, 2023, 11:17:31 PM
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It's a shame that Sampdoria had to be relegated to Serie B, I hope they can return to Serie A in the next few seasons, they weren't too prepared for the conditions of the players and financially so that made Sampdoria have no luck in Serie A this season, because they only won 3 just one game this season and have lost 24 times due to their poor defense.
Their performance this season has been terrible from the start. They even only won 3 matches and drew 10, and the rest lost 24 times. Imagine with statistics like that, it's only natural that they enter the lowest relegation zone. it is very unfortunate because their performance really dropped. They are also weak on all fronts, and lack the right strategy and tactics in every match
Now that they have been confirmed for relegation due to their poor form, but it is possible that some of their players will leave now.
At least there are several players who are good enough for Sampdoria this season even though their team performance is really bad but individually they still deserve to be in Seria A.
There are several players like Manolo Gabbiadini and Filip Djuricic who actually can still be watched by several Serie A clubs.
Even though it's 31 years old for both but they are still quite decent I think.

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May 31, 2023, 03:06:33 AM
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Indeed Ac milan qualified for the Champions league this season none other than the luck of the point deduction received by juventus which allowed Ac milan to maximize this opportunity as best as possible. If you look at Ac milan performance this season, I dare say they performed quite badly because they didn't win a single trophy this season.
What happened with Juventus gave AC Milan a good opportunity to be qualified for Champions League group qualification in 2023 - 2024 season. In general AC Milan did not play too worse than Juventus and without the point deduction on Juventus, two clubs are already similar in total points they got. Their rankings are only different by one or two matches with win or lose results.

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Ac milan was knocked out by inter milan from the Champions League and it hurts a lot if we see because they lost ower two leg and also Ac milan was knocked out by inter milan in the Italian Super Cup final this season.
I don't consider it is a bad result. If AC Milan can beat Napoli in quarter final, it's possible for Inter Milan to beat AC Milan in semi final. Those clubs are not too big different in quality and in only two knock-out matches, everything can happen like AC Milan surprisingly won over Napoli and Inter Milan won over AC Milan.

They will comeback in a next season of Champions League. Did we say AC Milan have DNA of Champions League and it helped them to win over Napoli in quarter finals?

It's true, very lucky. They were able to enter the top 4 right away because Juventus had fallen to the bottom due to the reduction in points. They have definitely entered the UCL qualification, unless suddenly the point deduction is lifted and Juventus returns to its original position. It is possible that at this time all clubs will still not be able to calm down if this season has not ended because of the changes that have occurred in their league.
Players don't like this ending because they worked hard in training and played seriously in their matches but they are suddenly responsible with punishment on what they did not violate. It's unfair for Juventus players but as a club, I don't know it is true if you say it is unfair for Juventus.

We must see more clearly evidence from investigation to conclude that this punishment is fair or unfair. I still feel it is an attack on Juventus and a punishment on them to prevent their participation in Super League and success of Super League.

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May 31, 2023, 04:39:29 AM
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Stefano Pioli's men only need one point to secure a ticket to the Champions League ahead of the match against Juventus, but because in that match they won automatically they are very safe and no one can chase their points in the top four of the standings. The match against Verona will not affect any results for AC Milan, so Pioli can relax a bit and doesn't need to field the main squad and can instead try to play his youth squad.

I'm a bit surprised with the results, I think Milan will be lose on this match. Lucky for Milan, they can manage to win. Pioli need to do something next season, because if AC Milan still like this, maybe they wouldn't qualified for UCL. This season AC milan lucky, becasue Juventus get a sanction. As your opinion, Milan need to  focus for better playing style for every matches.
Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.
I never knew they would play the Champions League this season. Still, it's people that forget too easily, the pended court case of Juventus was still there and I didn't expect them to turn a blind eye to it. This is another lesson for them that believe that they can go against the rule because they have more money and I wish them the best of luck next season. Is AC Milan then lucky? I say yes, this is because their performance wouldn't have earned them that, they would have been 2 points short of their present standing.

As for Stefano Pioli, it's one of his best moments now, he and his side didn't perform so badly this season and ware impressive with their play in the UCL this season, so it's plus for them.



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May 31, 2023, 06:36:07 AM
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Yes, Milan should have no hope of finishing in the top four, but because of the penalty for Juventus, everything is different. Uniquely the Rossoneri were also able to win at home to Juventus where they successfully locked in the top four of the standings.
The sanction to the juventus has been changing everything right now. Juventus may be qualifid for UCL if there would be no sanctions to come. That's why so many players even allegri feel disappointed to see the sanction was coming once the season is still a few matches away from its end.
So many parties can't accept the sanction that has already given to the juventus. This is something that doesn't to be argued caused by the only court who will able to lift the sanction for juventus.


For next season, it is certainly difficult to predict who will be the best, because almost all teams will evaluate their respective teams. I think it's too early to judge the team's prospects for next season.
I believe if napoli will not be performing the same like this season. it's caused by spalletti and some important players will be gone.
The power of napoli will be decreasing a lot. Spalletti has internal problem with napoli.

That's why he was not even extending his contract with napoli. Napoli will be playing so badly next season.

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May 31, 2023, 06:51:59 AM
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Stefano Pioli's men only need one point to secure a ticket to the Champions League ahead of the match against Juventus, but because in that match they won automatically they are very safe and no one can chase their points in the top four of the standings. The match against Verona will not affect any results for AC Milan, so Pioli can relax a bit and doesn't need to field the main squad and can instead try to play his youth squad.
I'm a bit surprised with the results, I think Milan will be lose on this match. Lucky for Milan, they can manage to win. Pioli need to do something next season, because if AC Milan still like this, maybe they wouldn't qualified for UCL. This season AC milan lucky, becasue Juventus get a sanction. As your opinion, Milan need to  focus for better playing style for every matches.
Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.
Milan was indeed lucky to win Juve and qualify for the champions league next season. If it wasn't for Juve's point deduction,they would have be among the top four. I think next season will be a good season for Juve both the problem that they will have is that some players might leave the club due to their zeal to play in UCL. Milan will perform brilliantly in the champions league next season and I hope to see the best in them. Juve performance this season was good and they could maintain their quality and still finish at 7th position.

Inter Milan and AC Milan are lucky as they have qualified for the Champions League. With Inter Milan's erratic performance at the start of the season, I thought they would not be in the top four of the table. However, Inter Milan and AC Milan have played quite well in the last few matches. Unlucky Juventus team, they could not qualify for the Champions League due to losing 10 points. But I don't think any Juventus player will leave the team because of not being able to play in the Champions League. Besides, Juventus have enough money. Even if a player leaves the team, Juventus can take qualified replacements.

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May 31, 2023, 07:15:15 AM
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Inter Milan and AC Milan are lucky as they have qualified for the Champions League. With Inter Milan's erratic performance at the start of the season, I thought they would not be in the top four of the table. However, Inter Milan and AC Milan have played quite well in the last few matches. Unlucky Juventus team, they could not qualify for the Champions League due to losing 10 points. But I don't think any Juventus player will leave the team because of not being able to play in the Champions League. Besides, Juventus have enough money. Even if a player leaves the team, Juventus can take qualified replacements.

If some players really leave the team, Juventus would have even more money!
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May 31, 2023, 07:40:36 AM
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For next season, it is certainly difficult to predict who will be the best, because almost all teams will evaluate their respective teams. I think it's too early to judge the team's prospects for next season.
I believe if napoli will not be performing the same like this season. it's caused by spalletti and some important players will be gone.
The power of napoli will be decreasing a lot. Spalletti has internal problem with napoli.

That's why he was not even extending his contract with napoli. Napoli will be playing so badly next season.
I think it depends on who the players leave and it depends on how Spalletti manages his players because as we know the current situation for Spalletti he is one of the smartest coaches in Serie A.
Last season actually proved how shrewd he was in spending and reshuffling players, especially I think many people were initially unsure, including myself in Spalletti's decision to let go of their core players like Dries Mertens and Koulibaly at the start of last season but he believed so much themselves by replacing them with young players.
It is possible that this season will be like that. Kim is most likely to leave but for others it is still uncertain so we just have to see how the transfer goes this time for Napoli.

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May 31, 2023, 08:02:24 AM
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Now that they have been confirmed for relegation due to their poor form, but it is possible that some of their players will leave now.
At least there are several players who are good enough for Sampdoria this season even though their team performance is really bad but individually they still deserve to be in Seria A.
There are several players like Manolo Gabbiadini and Filip Djuricic who actually can still be watched by several Serie A clubs.
Even though it's 31 years old for both but they are still quite decent I think.
Ordinary soccer players who are not as well-known as a star will be difficult for other teams to look at if they are over thirty years old. Even though his performance in the game is still quite good, that is not the only thing that will be a concern for other teams to ask for his hand unless there are several other considerations that the team can get when proposing this player. Because basically almost all teams want younger and talented players to make the team stronger.
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