Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

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The big job ahead of him cannot be separated from the status of the team he currently handles. The reason is that the bigger the team he handles, the greater the pressure he will get, the supporters will definitely demand that he perform something extraordinary for Bayern Munich. Of course the pressure when he handles Burnley will be much different from when he handles Bayern Munich now, so he has to prepare very well.
The challenge is in front of his eyes now, he must turn that challenge into motivation so that he can play well with Bayern Munich next season. If not, maybe he will get a very short time with Bayern Munich and be immediately fired if he fails to provide a good performance for at least half the season. So he had to be prepared for something like that.

Handling a team as big as Bayern Munich with minimal coaching experience will of course be a gamble for Kompany, in this case of course Kompany has a big responsibility for the considerable expectations of Munich and also the fans, so far Kompany has indeed been very successful in his career as a footballer but it is undeniable that it will not guarantee that he will also be successful as a coach,  Indeed, he has a little experience in coaching Burnley but the two teams of course have very different comparisons, but even so, we should think positively because maybe Kompany will be able to bring Bayern Munich to be better again next season, indeed this season Kompany failed to keep Burnley to continue playing in the Premier League next season,  But we must also not forget the success of Kompany who promoted Burnley last season to the Premier League.

Bayern Munich is of course a rich team and also financially strong when compared to Burnley, that's why they will not have difficulty bringing in quality and also great players so that indeed Kompany only needs a formation and also effective tactics to make Bayern Munich dominate the Bundesliga again next season, currently Kompany is indeed under high pressure after he officially became the coach of Bayern Munich,  But despite all that, I really admire his courage to take on the responsibility of coaching Munich, even though he knows that coaching a big team like  Munich will not be easy.

[Oluwa-btc]

Alphonso Davies is a really great talent in my opinion. He didn't have a bad season either. I would absolutely like to keep him in the team if I were them. He is only 23 years old with this talent so he can play for long years. 

Real Madrid has been mainly interested in him as far as I know. They are after many talented players in this transfer window as it seems. They have Ferland Mendy and Fran Garcia as left-backs for now. Fran Garcia is more like a backup player though. However Mendy hasn't been playing impressively in the recent two years. His average rating has been below 7.0 in these seasons. Real Madrid would probably have Davies in the starting eleven if they sign him.

I will not want to stay longer if a club like Real Madrid comes knocking, he should follow the steps of David Alaba and Toni Kroos because these are player's he played with before now and he should have known better how well they're doing with Real Madrid. With his pace and IQ, he will bring a lot into the squad and the attacking football they want to play.

Davis is on another level, did you see that goal he scored against Real Madrid in the Semi Finals?
He wanted to show Real Madrid fans how much quality hes got. He shouldn't hesitate once the agreement with Real Madrid is settled, Bayern Munich will have no other option but to accept it.

You cannot force a player who wants to leave to stay. This Real Madrid side next season will be deadly, I see why club president has said they can't wait to win the 16th Champions League Competition.

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Dortmund really showed their business side, even though during this season Sancho played so well in all competitions and this made him very worthy of being made permanent. But it was not so easy for Dortmund to make his move smooth and they asked Manchester United to give Sancho another loan.

I don't know for sure whether Manchester United will agree to this or not, but what is clear is that Sancho does not want to return to Manchester United and if possible he will go to another club if Dortmund's request is rejected. I think it's quite sad for Sancho because he is very comfortable at Dortmund but on the other hand Dortmund might want to know whether Sancho can be consistent or not because they don't want to be too hasty in making decisions and I think Sancho has to understand that.

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There is no assurance that he will follow Guardiola's lead at Bayern Munich when he was still there. I'm not even banking on it, knowing Burnley's dismal performance under him and it makes me dubious with bayern's performance under him. Bayern may have higher quality than Burnley, but nothing changes here. Kompany is trying to determine which players must be sold. Let's see who is gonna be sold by bayern munich soon.

I've heard he's been trying to send a contract extension to Alphonso Davies. Let's wait what kind of experiment prepared by him at this moment.

Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

Kompany played with the best as a football player, but he lacked that in coaching experience. Bayern Munich has an all-star squad. Kompany must know how to manage these fairly and also add positive things to the players tactically. If he achieves these, he can only come to good places and bring the team. This will be his biggest experience and next year will be a year of competition, a year of challenge for him.

[Weawant]

Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

Calling Burnley a mediocre team sounds trivial to me, I don't really see them as such, it will be much better and fair if they could be perceived as an average team, anyways that's your opinion and I wouldn't dispute it, after all we are all entitled to our opinion as no one has the 100% monopoly of knowledge and ideas. In the premier league the competition sometimes may make a team seem to appear less of their abilities.

All through the times Kompany was in charge, Burnley didn't perform so badly though they weren't of a very brilliant form but they weren't such that I will consider as a very poor team because the sanction on them also had a way of affected their total performance for the season, before that they were really making good progress amongst their premier league equals, just maybe this could be the potential the bundesliga giant saw in kompany and decided to hire him, because understanding the dynamics of premier league, you will see that it was a huge task for kompany to keep Burnley in the premier league even with all the challenges he faced.

If Burnley was on a clear stands, having not defaulted in any way, it's possibly they would have done much better. The bundesliga isn't an easy league as well and handling a big team in the bundesliga is such a huge one and aswell an honor too aswell and I'm trusting Kompany to deploy all he's got from his experience to the best of his knowledge so he makes his appointment worth the while but then it may not turn out really beautiful in the first days.

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Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

The squad differences are very significant between Burnley and Bayern Munich so that makes it a little easier for Vincent Kompany to handle Bayern and I don't think we can compare what happened before because Bayern management definitely has strong reasons so they recruited Vincent Kompany to be the team coach. , I think from the vision and mission of playing the team built by Vincent Kompany is suitable for Bayern and the players that Bayern has so that is a strong reason for Bayern management to appoint Vincent Kompany as their new coach.

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There is no assurance that he will follow Guardiola's lead at Bayern Munich when he was still there. I'm not even banking on it, knowing Burnley's dismal performance under him and it makes me dubious with bayern's performance under him. Bayern may have higher quality than Burnley, but nothing changes here. Kompany is trying to determine which players must be sold. Let's see who is gonna be sold by bayern munich soon.

I've heard he's been trying to send a contract extension to Alphonso Davies. Let's wait what kind of experiment prepared by him at this moment.

Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

Don't call Burnley mediocre. Though neither Man City or Liverpool, they're hardly pushovers. That team was fighting-spirited with Kompany. While relegation stinks, his excellent work remains. Now, Bayern? That differs. Bundesliga isn't the Championship, and Munich's pressure cooker is ridiculous. Kompany's played at the top level, but coaching is different. He must adjust quickly and handle the locker room's strong egos

If he can handle that, he may create something amazing at Bayern. Unless he can, it'll be a short, terrible ride. The big leagues aren't easy

[rangga28]

Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

The squad differences are very significant between Burnley and Bayern Munich so that makes it a little easier for Vincent Kompany to handle Bayern and I don't think we can compare what happened before because Bayern management definitely has strong reasons so they recruited Vincent Kompany to be the team coach. , I think from the vision and mission of playing the team built by Vincent Kompany is suitable for Bayern and the players that Bayern has so that is a strong reason for Bayern management to appoint Vincent Kompany as their new coach.

Yes, of course Bayern Munich management has done research and directed the team's future policy, but many people think that Kompany is still not worthy to handle a team as big as Munich. However, the decision has been made and now Kompany is required to be able to bring the Bavarians back to control of the Bundesliga. Honestly, I am pessimistic about Bayern's existence next season and it seems difficult for Kompany to compete with Alonso. But the time has not yet come, let's look at Kompany's strategy battle with other contestants in Germany.

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The squad differences are very significant between Burnley and Bayern Munich so that makes it a little easier for Vincent Kompany to handle Bayern and I don't think we can compare what happened before because Bayern management definitely has strong reasons so they recruited Vincent Kompany to be the team coach. , I think from the vision and mission of playing the team built by Vincent Kompany is suitable for Bayern and the players that Bayern has so that is a strong reason for Bayern management to appoint Vincent Kompany as their new coach.

It seems like we shouldn't compare or equate these two teams which are clearly very different and we should know that the reason Bayern Munich signed Vincent Kompany was not because he succeeded in bringing Burnley but rather Munich was motivated by Leverkusen who brought in a young coach who was more able to provide a modern strategy that could support the team to become stronger.
but what I say is just positive speculation from my thoughts on Munich purpose of bringing in Vincent Kompany as a replacement for Tuchel, it doesn't mean Vincent Kompany is better but Munich wants to try to find new experiences with a younger coach.
now let's look at the facts of Xabi success, which is currently successful in the Bundesliga, even though it failed in the European league, but this kind of success can provide motivation to other teams and maybe one of them is Munich, which wants to improve the team's performance with the new coach.

whatever Munich is doing now is the best plan for the next season with great hopes that Vincent Kompany can restore the dominance of the Bundesliga title that was lost during Tuchel coaching tenure.
at least we have to try to believe in Vincent Kompany giving him a chance in the second half of the coming season and if the results are very good, maybe that's what Munich wants.

[Jody.Drummer]

The squad differences are very significant between Burnley and Bayern Munich so that makes it a little easier for Vincent Kompany to handle Bayern and I don't think we can compare what happened before because Bayern management definitely has strong reasons so they recruited Vincent Kompany to be the team coach. , I think from the vision and mission of playing the team built by Vincent Kompany is suitable for Bayern and the players that Bayern has so that is a strong reason for Bayern management to appoint Vincent Kompany as their new coach.

Yes, maybe that will be the main asset for Vincent Kompany in managing the Bayern Munich squad, because here he will get lots of quality players and that he couldn't get when he was at Burnley. So maybe the strategy he will implement can be applied better at Bayern Munich than at his previous club. Because we cannot deny that the difference in the quality of a player will also influence the strategy implemented by the coach.

But that doesn't mean he will easily implement it, because after all he will also get a lot of pressure and maybe it will bother him. Because any pressure will be very influential, so what I hope is that he doesn't hear what happened or what other people said. He must really focus on the club he is managing now. He can maximize the players he has in the squad so that they can help him prove that he is worthy of being at Bayern Munich.

[Palakka]

Yes, of course Bayern Munich management has done research and directed the team's future policy, but many people think that Kompany is still not worthy to handle a team as big as Munich. However, the decision has been made and now Kompany is required to be able to bring the Bavarians back to control of the Bundesliga. Honestly, I am pessimistic about Bayern's existence next season and it seems difficult for Kompany to compete with Alonso. But the time has not yet come, let's look at Kompany's strategy battle with other contestants in Germany.

The recruitment of Kompany as Bayern Munich coach certainly caused a lot of controversy for Bayern Munich fans today, many think that if indeed the action taken by the current management is a desperate action from Bayern Munich which indeed failed to bring in a top coach after the dismissal of Tuchel so that in the end Kompany became the last solution for Bayern Munich,  What Bayern Munich is doing now is no different from what was done by Leverkusen before who did appoint Alonso as their coach, we know that Alonso and Kompany are two former football players who did have very little coaching experience before, but Alonso was finally able to bring a lot of changes at Leverkusen so of course Bayern Munich also expects the same thing to happen to them next season.

At this time, of course, we just have to wait and see how Bayern Munich will be next season, because indeed the decision has been taken by Bayern Munich with all the considerations and consequences that they will get later, Bayern Munich has been relying on the old style of play, namely possession of the ball also with a slightly high intensity and I think Kompany, who has been carrying an aggressive style of play, will certainly make a little change in the style of play Bayern Munich next season.

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Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

Vincent Kompany will have a big task next season, he will accompany a big team with a multitude of achievements based on his success in previous seasons. Vincent Kompany will be required to improve Bayern Munich performance after failing to win a title with Tuchel, he has never managed a big team and competing in a Big Match like the UCL will be a new challenge for him.

One of Vincent Kompany challenges must be to bring Bayern Munich back to win the Bundesliga, but Leverkusen, who have appeared very consistent this season, will try to maintain what they have achieved. Vincent Kompany first season with Bayern Munich will not be smooth because he has to adapt to the Bundesliga style of play and guide players so they can master the tactics he uses.

[knowngunman]

Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

If couches are being appointed based on their previous performance in their previous club, I bet you majority of them will remain jobless till the rest of their life. Let look at Wayne Rooney couching career and see how he relegated the clubs he has managed and some clubs are still after him looking for his service. Likewise, Graham potter was doing well in his former club Brighton which made Chelsea to go after him but he could not deliver well at Chelsea during his stays until he was fired. So, I think it has less to do with the previous performance and can not determine the success of the present. Vincent kompany is not too bad and considering the squad that Munich has, he might probably perform well if the team is ready to work along with him.

[Ruttoshi]

Vincent Kompany has big job ahead of him as manager of Bayern Munich. He had great career as player and some experience managing Burnley but it is unsure if he can handle big club like Bayern. He helped Burnley move up to Premier League but they got sent back down which raises concerns. However he learned from great manager Pep Guardiola when they were at Manchester City together. Kompany style of football is exciting and I hope he brings that to Bayern. Managing famous club like Bayern is a tough task, even for someone with Kompany experience. I hope he does well, but we'll have to wait and see if he can be successful as a manager like he was as a player.

The big job ahead of him cannot be separated from the status of the team he currently handles. The reason is that the bigger the team he handles, the greater the pressure he will get, the supporters will definitely demand that he perform something extraordinary for Bayern Munich. Of course the pressure when he handles Burnley will be much different from when he handles Bayern Munich now, so he has to prepare very well.
The challenge is in front of his eyes now, he must turn that challenge into motivation so that he can play well with Bayern Munich next season. If not, maybe he will get a very short time with Bayern Munich and be immediately fired if he fails to provide a good performance for at least half the season. So he had to be prepared for something like that.

One disadvantage for Kompany is that Bayern Munich is a very strong and big club which the fans are use to winning since they are the favorite club in Bundesliga. This is where the problem lies, because they will want to see that same Bayern Munich that use to win matches without giving him a lot of time to work with the club.

This is where everyone will know if Kompany is a coach that can withstand pressure to face the challenge in front of him, and overcome it. Kompany is used to a small club and I hope Bayern Munich will not be bigger than him to manage.

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However, I am not sure he is able to make Bayern Munich perform well next season because Bayern Munich has found quite strong competitors in the current Bundesliga and Bayern Munich needs a really smart strategy from the coach to beat Xabi Alonso's intelligence in providing strategies to Leverkusen because so far there is no coach who has been able to beat Xabi Alonso's intelligence in the Bundesliga except for Gasperini who comes from the Italian League and Vincent Kompany has to learn from that coach who seems clever in carrying out tactics when dealing with Leverkusen who never tasted defeat at that time.

Even though Vincent Kompany has learned from Pep Guardiola, in reality he still cannot compete well in the Premier League and he is one of the factors that caused Burnley to be relegated because he is the head coach there. At least if Bayern Munich recruits this player, he has a good track record because he is worried about his appearance. Bayern Munich next season will be increasingly destroyed because they are coached by the wrong coach. Indeed, it's too early to say this but we'll see how Bayern Munich performs next season but for some reason I have a feeling that Bayern Munich's performance will still be inferior to Leverkusen.

There nothing wrong with doubting Kompany, but considering that next season with Bayern Munich is a big gamble. There is no guarantee that Bayern Munich can beat Leverkusen. So I prefer to continue to favor Xabi Alonso team for next season. Sorry to say I agree with you for now until Kompany can really prove our doubts next season with better results than this season. Because his first perform will determine if Kompany continues or is fired. easy to guess the direction of Bayern Munich officials desires, Tuchel and Kompany still have the same demand, namely to win the trophy from Leverkusen. In fact, I assume that if in the middle of the season Bayern Munich doesn't develop in a better direction then Kompany will immediately be fired.

[Abu-Naim]

Dortmund really showed their business side, even though during this season Sancho played so well in all competitions and this made him very worthy of being made permanent. But it was not so easy for Dortmund to make his move smooth and they asked Manchester United to give Sancho another loan.

I don't know for sure whether Manchester United will agree to this or not, but what is clear is that Sancho does not want to return to Manchester United and if possible he will go to another club if Dortmund's request is rejected. I think it's quite sad for Sancho because he is very comfortable at Dortmund but on the other hand Dortmund might want to know whether Sancho can be consistent or not because they don't want to be too hasty in making decisions and I think Sancho has to understand that.

Manchester United might still accept Sancho after seeing that they miss used him be he will be very useful for the team if he play alongside Huglund, but Ten Hag will be the main problem in that case because they had personal issues that led to Sancho's departure in the team.
Sancho on the other hand will not to go back to United because of his relationship with Ten Had unless if United decide to sack Ten Hag.

I don't know why Dortmund don't usually like keeping players despite all the effort the players made during the season. They are used to selling their key players without having replacement for then, and that action has been affecting their performance; I just hope United rejected this deal so that Dortmund can keep Sancho.

Vincent Kompany will have a big task next season, he will accompany a big team with a multitude of achievements based on his success in previous seasons. Vincent Kompany will be required to improve Bayern Munich performance after failing to win a title with Tuchel, he has never managed a big team and competing in a Big Match like the UCL will be a new challenge for him.

One of Vincent Kompany challenges must be to bring Bayern Munich back to win the Bundesliga, but Leverkusen, who have appeared very consistent this season, will try to maintain what they have achieved. Vincent Kompany first season with Bayern Munich will not be smooth because he has to adapt to the Bundesliga style of play and guide players so they can master the tactics he uses.

I am still hoping he can bring glory back to Munich because he is good just that Burnley did not have enough players to survive the Premier League. Bayern have all the players he need, and the management will give him money to sign more players during the summer transfer, I just hope he use his time well and use the right players.

[Hanadawa]

Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

Some people wonder why Vincent Kompany was appointed as the new coach of Bayern Munich even though Burnley were relegated this season. But some news says that Munich has made contact with several other coaches such as Xabi Alonso, Julian Nagelsmann, Hansi Flick and Ralf Rangnick but they all refused. Kompany is also an option but he is not the first option. I don't think we can have high expectations for Munich's performance next season. It would be good if Kompany could give a surprise but I think it looks like Kompany will need time to build a squad and find the right game tactics. But I have no doubts about Kompany's training style because Munich plays ball possession and Kompany is a player who has been trained by Guardiola.

[bering]

There was a rumour that Edin Terzic future in Dortmund is still uncertain because basically Dortmund owner didn't too satisfied to Dortmund performance under Edin Terzic so they will try to evaluate the performance of Dortmund under Edin Terzic until September this year because if Dortmund performing well until that month then Dortmund will give him contract extension but if not then most likely Dortmund owner will thinking the possibility to sack Edin Terzic early

We all know on Champion League Dortmund performance is really impressive this because Edin Terzic has successfully to bringing this team to advances to the final match and although they were failed to gets the trophy but in my opinion this is fantastic achievement from Dortmund but indeed in Bundesliga Dortmund was failed to showing impressive performance because this season Dortmund only able to finish at 5th place of League Table and they also failed to compete with Bayern Munich and Leverkusen for race title so that's why Dortmund owner didn't satisfied to see the performance of this team this season

[viananda2525]

Burnley is mediocre team but still, Vincent Kompany manage to guide then to become one of the fiercest mediocre EPL team, promoted them to English Premier League, but somehow they got demoted because they failed to meet the requirements. Perhaps Vincent Kompany found favour in the eyes of Bundesliga giant, he have more work to exercise in his new club, definitely going to be tough for him in the first season because there's more handling responsibilities to take of. The players in Bayern Munich are no mediocre players but experienced players that knows every corner to win games.

Some people wonder why Vincent Kompany was appointed as the new coach of Bayern Munich even though Burnley were relegated this season. But some news says that Munich has made contact with several other coaches such as Xabi Alonso, Julian Nagelsmann, Hansi Flick and Ralf Rangnick but they all refused. Kompany is also an option but he is not the first option. I don't think we can have high expectations for Munich's performance next season. It would be good if Kompany could give a surprise but I think it looks like Kompany will need time to build a squad and find the right game tactics. But I have no doubts about Kompany's training style because Munich plays ball possession and Kompany is a player who has been trained by Guardiola.

Bayern Munich is a team that has a great history in Europe. When this season ends on a bad note, management should look for someone with a good reputation to manage the team. The fact that Kompany became a coach was quite surprising to many people because he did not have the proper experience. Even though Kompany was an option due to his failure to get service from the specified target, I think it was the wrong decision. Now Kompany is officially the Bavarian coach and he has to work hard to restore the team's glory, it's not easy but he has to go through a process with a lot of pressure too.

[Minecache]

Union Berlin just got saved by the good goal difference that they had and by winning the last match they have played in the season because they were able to win the last match.  otherwise, it was going to be a big problem for them. From a team that had actually promised so much, it is actually a little sad to see that they are right now fighting to avoid the relegation. In the last season, they had actually finished in the fourth position and the season before that they had finished in the fifth position. So this was really something unexpected. From playing the Champions League and fighting to avoid relegation, it was a hell of a downgrade in terms of performance from them