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June 03, 2024, 05:43:32 PM
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I agree that Nagelsmann is for sure better then Tuchel even Tuchel is also a very good Coach or he was.
I dont know much about Kompany but i think there was for sure better coaches on the market as him.
If Munich will be failing again that would be a shame for the whole club and the management and they should change there thinking.

The problem is that all the coaches who are better than him refused Bayern  Grin
I don’t know what will happen next season, but given the fact that Xabi remains, and Bayern does not look like a club that is going to seriously strengthen, there is a high probability that Bayern will fail again next season. Most of all in this situation I feel sorry for Kane, and the fact that the competition in the tournament is growing is only a plus.

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June 03, 2024, 06:51:48 PM
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I agree that Nagelsmann is for sure better then Tuchel even Tuchel is also a very good Coach or he was.
I dont know much about Kompany but i think there was for sure better coaches on the market as him.
If Munich will be failing again that would be a shame for the whole club and the management and they should change there thinking.

I think Bayern Munich is having the same problems that Manchester United is having which is more of a hierarchy problem and they need to solve that first, if you ask me Tuchel was a mistake only considering how Neglesmann was fired but Neglesmann isn’t a better coach then him. Tuchel has trophies to show for that. If we analyze how Kompany came in with the decision also involving Pep guardiola I think they are prioritizing prospects this time around. Kompany has his tactics and with the right players it will work out, also if the Board backs him, but it is definitely a big gamble though

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June 03, 2024, 11:57:20 PM
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The appointment of Vincent Kompany as Bayern Munich's coach have caused mixed reactions. Munich didn't really have much options to select from. Kompany's selection is seen by some as a step back for the club. The thoughts surrounding his appointment stems from past instances where Bayern struggled under coaches who didn't have the same pedigree as renowned names like Heynckes, Ancelotti, Guardiola, and van Gaal. There are doubts about whether Kompany can fill the shoes of his big named predecessors and lead Bayern to continued success.

 Kompany's challenge at Bayern is increased by the fact that he wasn't the first choice for the role, potentially leaving him in a position where he has to prove himself with the doubts about his suitability for the job. The decline of renowned coaches like Nagelsmann and the perceived lack of interest from others like Tuchel may raise eyebrows and lead to questions about Bayern's motive as a coaching destination.

 Tuchel's talks about Bayern Munich's coaching situation shows the uncertainty surrounding the club's managerial hunt. Kompany's tenure at Bayern will undoubtedly be closely monitored, with his success or failure potentially impacting views about the club's coaching decisions for seasons to come.

This choice was definitely made because of a lack of options. Otherwise Bayern Munich would have signed a big name in the business, but Kompany is a risky choice. After the season they now played, this doesn't feel like a proper response. But then again I have no idea whether there was any of the bigger names available at all. Mourinho comes to my mind, but I assume we won't fund out whether there have been talks or negotiations, but Mourinho isn't the same Mourinho anymore. That's why I think he wouldn't have been the best choice either.

The problem with Kompany is that everything will be going crazy if he doesn't win most of the games from day one. That is where I think a more experienced coach would be superior in handling these kinds of situations. Kompany will get under pressure immediately if he has some weak results and the whole club will be in distress within no time.

Leverkusen on the other hand can be fully relaxed. They still have their amazing coach and don't have to screen the transfer market or start any experiments. I call Kompany for Bayern Munich an experiment. It is not the bullet-proof choice that Bayern would have liked to have.

Contract duration for Kompany is three years, which means that Bayern is serious about him. I thought they would be more inclined to give him two years instead, but no. It would be quite a bad joke though if this whole endeavor fails and they have to sack him after four months.
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June 04, 2024, 01:13:55 AM
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I think Bayern Munich is having the same problems that Manchester United is having which is more of a hierarchy problem and they need to solve that first, if you ask me Tuchel was a mistake only considering how Neglesmann was fired but Neglesmann isn’t a better coach then him. Tuchel has trophies to show for that. If we analyze how Kompany came in with the decision also involving Pep guardiola I think they are prioritizing prospects this time around. Kompany has his tactics and with the right players it will work out, also if the Board backs him, but it is definitely a big gamble though
Yes you are right Bayern Munich and Manchester United have similar issues stemming from poor leadership structures. Bayern mistakes like firing Julian Nagelsmann and hiring Thomas Tuchel highlight this problem. While Tuchel has trophy record his appointment was misstep considering Nagelsmann unceremonious exit. However Kompany hiring influenced by Pep Guardiola suggests focus on potential over experience. Kompany tactics and vision, paired with the right players and board support, could succeed. Still, it's risky move, and the club hierarchy must be addressed for long term success.

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June 04, 2024, 04:09:46 AM
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I think Bayern Munich is having the same problems that Manchester United is having which is more of a hierarchy problem and they need to solve that first, if you ask me Tuchel was a mistake only considering how Neglesmann was fired but Neglesmann isn’t a better coach then him. Tuchel has trophies to show for that. If we analyze how Kompany came in with the decision also involving Pep guardiola I think they are prioritizing prospects this time around. Kompany has his tactics and with the right players it will work out, also if the Board backs him, but it is definitely a big gamble though
Julian Nagelsmann was sacked with immediate effect for what reasons? It's still clear how the board of directors dismissed Nagelsmann for incompetent actions which was shown no evidence and appointed Thomas Tuchel who was trophyless last season. Bayern Munich board have made couple of mistakes in the past and the best way to sealed their path is simply making improvements when it comes to do with coaches.

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June 04, 2024, 09:56:28 AM
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I agree that Nagelsmann is for sure better then Tuchel even Tuchel is also a very good Coach or he was.
I dont know much about Kompany but i think there was for sure better coaches on the market as him.
If Munich will be failing again that would be a shame for the whole club and the management and they should change there thinking.

Nagelsman is better than Tuchel, even though Tuchel has a history of winning trophies because Tuchel has failed to manage Bayern Munich this season. Nagelsman was successful at the club, and he was sacked with no offense, the management does not have any reasons why they sacked him, I believe they would regret the decision they made because there's no consistency in their games this season. However, there were several coaches on the market much better than Kompany but they turned down the offer because they were doing well in their current clubs. I believe that Kompany has his tactics to improve the team but they need to be patient with him because that will be his first season with the players, and they need more time to adapt to each other.

If Bayern Munich continues to fail next season, it will be a shame for all the management because they don't have to finish next season without raising any trophy, If Leverkusen makes the Bundesliga difficult to win, at least they should win the DFB Pokal since they have appointed young manager who can compete with Xabi Alonso.

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June 04, 2024, 10:06:43 AM
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I agree that Nagelsmann is for sure better then Tuchel even Tuchel is also a very good Coach or he was.
I dont know much about Kompany but i think there was for sure better coaches on the market as him.
If Munich will be failing again that would be a shame for the whole club and the management and they should change there thinking.

The problem is that all the coaches who are better than him refused Bayern  Grin
I don’t know what will happen next season, but given the fact that Xabi remains, and Bayern does not look like a club that is going to seriously strengthen, there is a high probability that Bayern will fail again next season. Most of all in this situation I feel sorry for Kane, and the fact that the competition in the tournament is growing is only a plus.
From the start, I just highlighted how Bayern Munich is moving in the coaching transfer market this time and as you said, all the good and experienced coaches are reluctant to handle this team starting next season. The reason for the rejection is not yet known, but what is clear is that most coaches don't want to damage their portfolio when the team is not in good condition.

Even though Bayern Munich tried hard to convince all the coaches they were targeting, no one agreed or even tried to ask for a bonus so that the transfer process would run smoothly. The situation at Leverkusen will remain a serious threat to Bayern Munich and I doubt that together with Kompany they can shift this dominance. The rest we will see something that is not much different from this season for next season and Kane looks like he will have to fast for the title again.

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In rating coaches like Nagelsmann and Tuchel,  consider their track records and current state. While Tuchel has a history of trophy wins, his time at Munich this season has been challenging. Nagelsman's success at the club before being sacked shows positive managerial abilities. Judging their abilities solely on one season's performance will not be fair. Tuchel's past glories shouldn't be ignored, but Nagelsman's potential and achievements should be acknowledged too.

Maybe i am late but i was quite surprised by read the article. Is it true that Kompany is the new coach replacing Tuchel? Even I was surprised and just found out about this. Is he worth it? so far he has no serious achievements, even with Burnley he failed. Burnley relegated to the Championsip. I am confused by Munich's decision, are they frustrated? Even Kompany has only been a coach for 4 years. If I were the owner of Munich, I would prefer Tuchel to stay in Munich. But let's see with a 3-year contract what he can do, maybe Kompany can make a surprise. LOL

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/bayern-muich-unveil-vincent-kompany-new-coach-press-conference-live-27630

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June 04, 2024, 02:24:31 PM
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Julian Nagelsmann was sacked with immediate effect for what reasons? It's still clear how the board of directors dismissed Nagelsmann for incompetent actions which was shown no evidence and appointed Thomas Tuchel who was trophyless last season. Bayern Munich board have made couple of mistakes in the past and the best way to sealed their path is simply making improvements when it comes to do with coaches.

Nagelsman previous dismissal of course caused controversy among Bayern Munich fans, because at that time Bayern Munich is in good condition but Nagelsman was fired without any reasonable reason, the appointment of Tuchel as coach is also a big question for Bayern Munich fans because indeed currently Tuchel came to Munich after failing to lift Chelsea performance and when Tuchel was fired by Chelsea at that time,  Chelsea is in a very bad state, Bayern Munich management expects a lot from Tuchel after taking the risk of sacking Nagelsman at that time but in fact Bayern Munich expectations are far from their expectations.

This season after the slump that occurred actually made Bayern Munich have to look for a new coach and after what they did, it was clear that the difficulty in finding a top coach made Munich have to entrust the team to Kompany, currently Bayern Munich is making a bet by appointing Kompany as a coach, because indeed Kompany does not have much experience in coaching a big team,  In addition, his inability to keep Burnley from Premier League relegation this season clearly caused confusion for Bayern Munich fans. 

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June 04, 2024, 02:35:27 PM
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I agree that Nagelsmann is for sure better then Tuchel even Tuchel is also a very good Coach or he was.
I dont know much about Kompany but i think there was for sure better coaches on the market as him.
If Munich will be failing again that would be a shame for the whole club and the management and they should change there thinking.

The problem is that all the coaches who are better than him refused Bayern  Grin
I don’t know what will happen next season, but given the fact that Xabi remains, and Bayern does not look like a club that is going to seriously strengthen, there is a high probability that Bayern will fail again next season. Most of all in this situation I feel sorry for Kane, and the fact that the competition in the tournament is growing is only a plus.
I don't want to draw conclusions too quickly about Kompany, even though Nagelsmann and Tuchel are actually much better than Kompany from experience, of course Kompany is very far below both of them, but it is true that there is no other way for Munich to get a new head coach who is suitable for Munich next season. , they feel confident and believe in Kompany so in my opinion as a Munich supporter we have to admit their decision of course it could be the best decision for Munich, at least Munich has solid and quite productive players which is enough for Kompany to carry out his job as head coach of Munich the new one.

After all, if a great coach but doesn't have productive players the results won't be good even though we know Xabi Alonso can do it, but it all depends on the approach between the coach and all the players, I think Kompany will also work hard with the trust he received during his time as head coach, of course he won't disappoint Munich next season, the competition is quite tight, he and Kane hopefully can get their dream next season with Munich, I hope Kane doesn't fail again to bring Munich a trophy next season.

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June 04, 2024, 02:38:38 PM
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It is definitely sad that Dortmund was unable to win the Champions League final. But people have to understand that they were going up against the best Champions League team ever. I was actually a little surprised to see that they were able to hold off Real Madrid for such a long time. In the end, Dani Carvajal & Vini Junior were able to score towards the final 20 minutes of the match. And if the authority decides that they have to fire Edin Terzić just because they were unable to win the Champions League title, it is going to be a dumb decision. If they could actually win the Champions League final, it would have been the biggest surprise ever.

It is going to be a better decision to keep Edin Terzić and I absolutely agree that he has such a long history with Dortmund. So he will probably know better than anyone what to do with this club.
I think that there should be no talk about Terzic’s dismissal, on the contrary, Rauball should have been worried that some other club want to be lured Terzic.  Smiley The final for Dortmund is already a great achievement, they were lucky on the way to the final, but with Real Madrid just luck is not enough. In fact, Terzic was once the coach of Haaland and Bellingham, so you can see how well he understands players and how he knows how to unleash their potential.

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June 04, 2024, 04:20:55 PM
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I think that there should be no talk about Terzic’s dismissal, on the contrary, Rauball should have been worried that some other club want to be lured Terzic.  Smiley The final for Dortmund is already a great achievement, they were lucky on the way to the final, but with Real Madrid just luck is not enough. In fact, Terzic was once the coach of Haaland and Bellingham, so you can see how well he understands players and how he knows how to unleash their potential.
Dortmund managed to reach the final round of the Champions League this season and they should be proud of all their achievements this season, in the last two seasons of course Dortmund has become a pretty strong team and in fact last season they managed to finish runner-up in the league only losing goal difference with Bayern Munich, besides that Edin Terzic has managed to get one Dfb trophy since his coaching,  Firing Edin Terzic is of course a stupidity if they do it later, the strategy and game scheme applied by Edin Terzic at the moment is really quite good and even they are able to make it difficult for Madrid in the Champions League final, for now Dortmund should be more proactive to keep Edin Terzic in the Dortmund squad next season.

Edin Terzic is no different from the savior of Dortmund after they failed to compete when the previous coach, currently Edin Terzic who managed to bring Dortmund to the Champions League final certainly made him approached by many clubs to recruit him, but reportedly Edin Terzic still really wants to stay at Dortmund next season, but he also does not refuse to leave Dortmund if indeed Dortmund no longer wants him as a coach.

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June 04, 2024, 04:38:48 PM
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The problem is that all the coaches who are better than him refused Bayern  Grin
I don’t know what will happen next season, but given the fact that Xabi remains, and Bayern does not look like a club that is going to seriously strengthen, there is a high probability that Bayern will fail again next season. Most of all in this situation I feel sorry for Kane, and the fact that the competition in the tournament is growing is only a plus.
From the start, I just highlighted how Bayern Munich is moving in the coaching transfer market this time and as you said, all the good and experienced coaches are reluctant to handle this team starting next season. The reason for the rejection is not yet known, but what is clear is that most coaches don't want to damage their portfolio when the team is not in good condition.

Even though Bayern Munich tried hard to convince all the coaches they were targeting, no one agreed or even tried to ask for a bonus so that the transfer process would run smoothly. The situation at Leverkusen will remain a serious threat to Bayern Munich and I doubt that together with Kompany they can shift this dominance. The rest we will see something that is not much different from this season for next season and Kane looks like he will have to fast for the title again.

I heard that there are conflicts within the Bavarian management itself, but I don’t know the details. But it’s clear that at the level where all the qualified coaches/agents and so on are, there is information about this and no one wants to take the risk of going to an unstable club with unclear prospects. It’s quite sad that Bayern has gone downhill in just a few years and perhaps this process is not over yet.

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June 04, 2024, 04:54:18 PM
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The problem is that all the coaches who are better than him refused Bayern  Grin
I fully agree on that , and maybe the reason  for that is that they all scared that they also get sacked to soon when they dont when have or show success.
To be honest i would be at the moment also have my thoughts when i was in that situation for getting asked to be a coach at Munich.

Most of all in this situation I feel sorry for Kane, and the fact that the competition in the tournament is growing is only a plus.
Yeah its a b it sad for him that its not the best harmony in the Club between the coach and management.
Fingers crossed that he will have the chance on the coming season to get a title.

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Bochum has decide will not extended the contract from Heiko Butscher and will hire Peter Zeidler as a new manager for next season and i think hire Peter Zeidler is very risky because if i am not mistaken he is lack of experience to train Bundesliga team however i don't know why i personally more prefer Heiko Butscher is suitable for Bochum because within 2 months Heiko Butscher can save Bochum from relegation zone and Bochum performance under him also very fantastic especially when Bochum playing against Fortuna Duesseldorf on play off match

About Peter Zeidler i am sure most of Bundesliga fans didn't know him because if i am not mistaken he has spend his career as a manager outside Germany and train several Swiss clubs but during his career Peter Zeidler was never able to gets the trophies and last season he can bringing St Gallen finish at 5th place of Swiss League however Peter Zeidler has hard jobs next season because he have to bringing Bochum to survive in Bundesliga and it won't be easy for him considering Bochum condition is compeletely messed up

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June 04, 2024, 05:47:25 PM
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I agree that Nagelsmann is for sure better then Tuchel even Tuchel is also a very good Coach or he was.
I dont know much about Kompany but i think there was for sure better coaches on the market as him.
If Munich will be failing again that would be a shame for the whole club and the management and they should change there thinking.

I'm not sure what exactly is the cause, why Bayern Munich is trying to maneuver in these two seasons. First, Nagelsmann was fired because they wanted Tomas Tuchel, then Tuchel failed and did not win any trophies this season. suddenly, Bayern brought in Vincent Kompany from Burnley. While we know that Kompany's only track record is being able to bring Burnley up to the Premier League, but unfortunately he was unable to keep his team competing in the Premier League. I'm not sure what the indicators are for Bayern Munich's top officials, whether it's because he's young and has the same vision and mission as Munich's philosophy. Or, they have difficulty bringing in coaches who are truly experienced and can be relied on. However, the decision seems to have been made and Kompany is now in charge of The Bavarians. We'll see how far he can take Bayern Munich. and one thing he must take advantage of, Bayern has a fairly competitive squad and maybe some new arrivals will be brought in in the summer transfer window. Let's just give him a chance, but if he isn't able to make Bayern much better, it's possible his career won't reach the end of the season. But before we judge too far, let's just wait. On the other hand, it might provide tough competition for its competitors if Vincent Kompany is not so competent in handling The Bavarians.


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June 04, 2024, 05:57:57 PM
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I agree that Nagelsmann is for sure better then Tuchel even Tuchel is also a very good Coach or he was.
I dont know much about Kompany but i think there was for sure better coaches on the market as him.
If Munich will be failing again that would be a shame for the whole club and the management and they should change there thinking.

The problem is that all the coaches who are better than him refused Bayern  Grin
I don’t know what will happen next season, but given the fact that Xabi remains, and Bayern does not look like a club that is going to seriously strengthen, there is a high probability that Bayern will fail again next season. Most of all in this situation I feel sorry for Kane, and the fact that the competition in the tournament is growing is only a plus.
I think Xabi is an important coach. What they did in Leverkusen is obvious. I wonder whether they will achieve these successes next year. Bayern Munich met with many coaches before signing Kompany, but it would not be easy to convince them, and they could not do it anyway. So they turned to alternatives and signed Kompany

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June 04, 2024, 06:25:07 PM
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I think Xabi is an important coach. What they did in Leverkusen is obvious. I wonder whether they will achieve these successes next year. Bayern Munich met with many coaches before signing Kompany, but it would not be easy to convince them, and they could not do it anyway. So they turned to alternatives and signed Kompany

Xabi is actually one of the best thing that has ever happen to Barcelona this season because he managed to bring Barcelona out of there struggling state during the beginning of the season, with his level of experience if they managed to get some more players he would actually turn Barcelona to the way they normally play before and also Barcelona is lucky because his contract with them is still far, so from now till the end of his contract being next year he would have actually reformed the club.

However in terms of Kompany going to Bayern Munich it could affect the performance of the club because Kompany does not really have enough experience to lead Bayern Munich, though I'm not emphasizing that Kompany is not a good coach but I'm just considering the fact that Bayern Munich performance needs someone that has a lot of coaching skills to improve the club more but however let's see of Kompany will make a good impact on the club.

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June 04, 2024, 06:52:30 PM
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It is possible that Bayern Munchen management no longer has many choices, so they appointed Kompany as manager next season. Another consideration is pursuing time to prepare the team, when the transfer window opens, the position of Bayern Munchen manager will no longer be empty. To be fair and not to underestimate Kompany, despite many doubts about him, he deserves time to show his tactical qualities. With the vast difference in squad depth between Bayern Munchen and Burnley, it seems Kompany efforts will be easier.

Bayern Munich staff made a huge communication mistake by announcing that Tuchel will be fired and before that they fired Nagelsmann and since they made these acts, other top coaches refused to take the team on charge. They asked Nagelsmann to return and he refused and for obvious reasons, Tuchel decided to not listen for them to continue training the team after they fired him. Leopard ate my face like they said, Bayern Munich fantastic staff decided to hire Kompany that I assume will not last long than the first six games if he fails to maintain Bayern Munich in the top position.
Changing managers is a normal thing in football. But if this manager change becomes excessive then the matter becomes different. Like Bayern Munich they can't be satisfied with their performance at the end of every season and that's why they appoint a new manager every season. English Premier League club Chelsea does the same thing. Chelsea perform poorly every season and at the end of the season they change managers and this season they have maintained that consistency. 

All these activities but of course all other managers follow suit, they will refrain from taking charge of these teams before taking charge because they don't want to ruin their reputation by taking charge for just one season. Bayern Munich may have the problem of not being able to recruit a quality manager to their club.

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June 04, 2024, 06:58:08 PM
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I think Xabi is an important coach. What they did in Leverkusen is obvious. I wonder whether they will achieve these successes next year. Bayern Munich met with many coaches before signing Kompany, but it would not be easy to convince them, and they could not do it anyway. So they turned to alternatives and signed Kompany

Xabi is actually one of the best thing that has ever happen to Barcelona this season because he managed to bring Barcelona out of there struggling state during the beginning of the season, with his level of experience if they managed to get some more players he would actually turn Barcelona to the way they normally play before and also Barcelona is lucky because his contract with them is still far, so from now till the end of his contract being next year he would have actually reformed the club.

However in terms of Kompany going to Bayern Munich it could affect the performance of the club because Kompany does not really have enough experience to lead Bayern Munich, though I'm not emphasizing that Kompany is not a good coach but I'm just considering the fact that Bayern Munich performance needs someone that has a lot of coaching skills to improve the club more but however let's see of Kompany will make a good impact on the club.
I don't really believe in Kompany's ability that much,he failed at Burnley,and I also think he doesn't have what it takes to succeed at a big club too.If he was to succeed with Burnley,I would have had a little faith that he would do well,but he failed,and at the moment,it's very few people that will believe in his abilities.I am one of those poeple who have a doubt about what he can do,but well,I need not to conclude because he might just go there and be their best coach of all time,maybe lifting the Champions league with the club and making them win their tittle again,we never can tell,but I'm just saying I do not believe in what he can do at Bayern.
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