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June 05, 2025, 01:44:21 PM
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Maybe that price tagg was just made because they are in the same League for Bayern Munich , thats what i think.
So its possible that they want to be sure if Wirtz leaving the club that he dont goes to an direct competitor , specially because its Munich , but who knows.
I guess that Xabi Alonso tried a few times to get Wirtz with him to Real Madrid and its possible that we will see him there for sure.
He has the skills and all to making something that Kroos have done there.

I don’t think there was any price discrepancy between clubs They had actually put him up for that huge £150 million price for all the clubs coming so it wasn’t Bayern Munich. And in fact it wasn’t the club that advised against selling him to Bayern Munich but I think it was the player him self that opted for the transfer to Liverpool, moreover aside injury I think Bayern Leverkusen already has Jamaal Musiala who to me is better than Florian Wirtz

We are not going to see him at Real Madrid most especially not this season or with that huge amount of money, Real Madrid are looking to be very conventional in spending this days that they are actually looking for players with lower valuation and at the moment their target is the Stuttgart midfielder Angelo Stiller who is more cheaper than Wirtz and is considered an all round midfielder than Wirtz.

Liverpool is Wirtz first choice and with this amount on him I don’t think any club will rival them for the signature

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June 05, 2025, 01:59:47 PM
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I don’t think there was any price discrepancy between clubs They had actually put him up for that huge £150 million price for all the clubs coming so it wasn’t Bayern Munich. And in fact it wasn’t the club that advised against selling him to Bayern Munich but I think it was the player him self that opted for the transfer to Liverpool, moreover aside injury I think Bayern Leverkusen already has Jamaal Musiala who to me is better than Florian Wirtz
For me Jamal Musiala is also in some ways better then Florian Wirtz there is no question about that.
But if you have seen them both playing together you know what i mean , they fit perfect together in a team and maybe (so thats why my thoughts about that price tagg)

We are not going to see him at Real Madrid most especially not this season or with that huge amount of money, Real Madrid are looking to be very conventional in spending this days that they are actually looking for players with lower valuation and at the moment their target is the Stuttgart midfielder Angelo Stiller who is more cheaper than Wirtz and is considered an all round midfielder than Wirtz.
For sure we will dont see him this or next season in Real Madrid and thats what i have written.
I am sure that in the next years he will get an offer from them.
Angelo Stiller can be going to Real Madrid but would love to see him one more year in Stuttgart.
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June 05, 2025, 02:01:17 PM
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The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Of course, the team will be strong in the market for signings any kind of player to strengthen their performance next season, but this team is not rich enough to buy any player they want in the market, they are not rich enough like Bayern Munich to buy any top their choice player, perhaps they want to sell their key players for a huge amount of money in order to buy some player to improve their performance, they will need a stronger defense because they conceded unnecessary goals last season which prevented them from winning a trophy.

However, I've heard a rumor that Ten Hags has added Manchester United Antony to the list of players they plan to sign for the next season. As a manager who always wants to be reunited with his former players, I hope Ten Hag signs Onana as well. Manchester United fans will be satisfied to see the deal done because Onana has been their problem ever since he joined the team.

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June 05, 2025, 02:25:16 PM
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Most people doubt Ten Hag because previously Leverkusen had a coach who was able to make some big changes to the club and vice versa with some players who have left the club. But we can see next season how Ten Hag can give his best even though he needs time to adjust. At least being able to compete in the top three and qualifying for the Champions League is more than enough because it is not easy to make a team compete for the championship title with the current conditions.
Because it will not be easy enough to compete in the championship position for Leverkusen, at least Leverkusen must be able to bring in some quality players to improve the team's strength to be better. Because Ten Hag will find it easier to organize and provide his tactics to more qualified players so that the Leverkusen team is not in a worse condition next season. I also hope that the Leverkusen team can still be a strong competitor in the Bundesliga even though Alonso is no longer coached.

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June 05, 2025, 03:11:05 PM
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The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Of course, the team will be strong in the market for signings any kind of player to strengthen their performance next season, but this team is not rich enough to buy any player they want in the market, they are not rich enough like Bayern Munich to buy any top their choice player, perhaps they want to sell their key players for a huge amount of money in order to buy some player to improve their performance, they will need a stronger defense because they conceded unnecessary goals last season which prevented them from winning a trophy.

However, I've heard a rumor that Ten Hags has added Manchester United Antony to the list of players they plan to sign for the next season. As a manager who always wants to be reunited with his former players, I hope Ten Hag signs Onana as well. Manchester United fans will be satisfied to see the deal done because Onana has been their problem ever since he joined the team.
When a manager moves to a new place, the transfer list starts to appear like their phone contacts. Ten Hag calling up Antony and maybe even Onana for Bundesliga? Leverkusen should think carefully before signing goalkeepers that get fans of the enemy team more excited than their own if they want to fix their defensive problems.

Leverkusen doesn't have as much money as Bayern. Even while they sold a lot, much of that money goes right back into paying for the next round of upgrades or filling in the gaps left by large departures. They have always been good at discovering value. Think about Frimpong or Wirtz before they were famous.

Ten Hag needs to do more than bring in known people if he wants to leave a lasting impression on this team. Chemistry has been the true game changer at this club, not how many people you know from England. Leverkusen needs more than just new players to continue at the top. They need fresh ideas as well.
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June 05, 2025, 03:19:42 PM
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Most people doubt Ten Hag because previously Leverkusen had a coach who was able to make some big changes to the club and vice versa with some players who have left the club. But we can see next season how Ten Hag can give his best even though he needs time to adjust. At least being able to compete in the top three and qualifying for the Champions League is more than enough because it is not easy to make a team compete for the championship title with the current conditions.
Because it will not be easy enough to compete in the championship position for Leverkusen, at least Leverkusen must be able to bring in some quality players to improve the team's strength to be better. Because Ten Hag will find it easier to organize and provide his tactics to more qualified players so that the Leverkusen team is not in a worse condition next season. I also hope that the Leverkusen team can still be a strong competitor in the Bundesliga even though Alonso is no longer coached.
The question is whether Leverkusen is able to bring in quality players with the current financial conditions?
I'm not sure Leverkusen can afford to spend big money to comply with Erik Ten Hag's wishes. Meanwhile, ETH has previously had a bad experience that may make most doubt how the future of Bayer is in the hands of Ten Hag.
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Because it will not be easy enough to compete in the championship position for Leverkusen, at least Leverkusen must be able to bring in some quality players to improve the team's strength to be better. Because Ten Hag will find it easier to organize and provide his tactics to more qualified players so that the Leverkusen team is not in a worse condition next season. I also hope that the Leverkusen team can still be a strong competitor in the Bundesliga even though Alonso is no longer coached.

Everything is about how committed they are towards participation. We know that it won't go well, but at the end of the day, Leverkusen seems to be more serious about achieving because they are one time the one-time winner of the Bundesliga. are doing everything in there power to be able to win,  and since ten have the experience of managing a big club, then Leverkusen should not be an issue at all, and if Leverkusen should get more extra player it wont be a bad idea at all, and they are in a very good condition, so see they prospering next season for sure.











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June 05, 2025, 07:31:46 PM
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Most people doubt Ten Hag because previously Leverkusen had a coach who was able to make some big changes to the club and vice versa with some players who have left the club. But we can see next season how Ten Hag can give his best even though he needs time to adjust. At least being able to compete in the top three and qualifying for the Champions League is more than enough because it is not easy to make a team compete for the championship title with the current conditions.
Because it will not be easy enough to compete in the championship position for Leverkusen, at least Leverkusen must be able to bring in some quality players to improve the team's strength to be better. Because Ten Hag will find it easier to organize and provide his tactics to more qualified players so that the Leverkusen team is not in a worse condition next season. I also hope that the Leverkusen team can still be a strong competitor in the Bundesliga even though Alonso is no longer coached.
Alonso went to Real Madrid and Bayer Leverkusen is preparing for the new season with the tactics and players he provided. The Dutch coach may have high capacity, but Leverkusen will continue to play in the Bundesliga for a while with the system created by Xabi Alonso. Later, the Dutch coach may try something with his own tactics.

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Most people doubt Ten Hag because previously Leverkusen had a coach who was able to make some big changes to the club and vice versa with some players who have left the club. But we can see next season how Ten Hag can give his best even though he needs time to adjust. At least being able to compete in the top three and qualifying for the Champions League is more than enough because it is not easy to make a team compete for the championship title with the current conditions.
Because it will not be easy enough to compete in the championship position for Leverkusen, at least Leverkusen must be able to bring in some quality players to improve the team's strength to be better. Because Ten Hag will find it easier to organize and provide his tactics to more qualified players so that the Leverkusen team is not in a worse condition next season. I also hope that the Leverkusen team can still be a strong competitor in the Bundesliga even though Alonso is no longer coached.
Alonso went to Real Madrid and Bayer Leverkusen is preparing for the new season with the tactics and players he provided. The Dutch coach may have high capacity, but Leverkusen will continue to play in the Bundesliga for a while with the system created by Xabi Alonso. Later, the Dutch coach may try something with his own tactics.
I don't think so even though majority of the players that Xavi Alonso groomed will still be in Leverkusen the philosophy and style of football is definitely going to be affected because a New coach coming means that there is going to be some major changes that are bound to happen so you don't expect thesame way of playing from ten hang the style of play is definitely going to change this coming season

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I also hope that the Leverkusen team can still be a strong competitor in the Bundesliga even though Alonso is no longer coached.

I am not very optimistic about that point especially that many Bayer Leverkusen players are looked for by many teams and Xabi Alonso himself. Additionally, Ten Hag has his way of players selections and might change drastically the technics and the way of the gameplay for the team.
I should wait for some games in the beginning of the season to get a clearer idea, until then I hope Bayer Leverkusen will stay in the top spots. I am waiting to see Borussia Dortmund competing Bayern Munich for the title next season.

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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.
That is good to focus on transfer period for Bayer Leverkusen especially after their amazing undefeated win in 2023-2024 Bundesliga season because successful teams mostly face challenge of their best players getting big offers from other clubs which makes transfer window very important time. Your point about needing to bring in good young players to replace anyone who leaves is spot on as their ability to stay in championship race next year will depend heavily on making smart new signings. If they can not replace key players well it will be hard to repeat their success.
The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

Any small mistake will affect Bayer Leverkusen more than we can expect because the absence of Xavi Alonso will not be that easy for them, as their new coach who will come might not be so good as him. But we all know that even with that, if they can finalise their transfer and play a very smart move, it will be easy for them to surely achieve something tangible this coming season because we don’t yet know who will come as a new coach yet. But still, the players will need to adjust and act to the changes they will have after the transfer window.
It will not be Xavi, it will be Xabi. They will be completely different people. Also Erik Ten Hag has a very good career history with Ajax. This career history took him to the Premier League. However, his failure in the Premier League is talked about more. There is no doubt that he is a good coach, but we do not know if he can fill Xabi's void in Leverkusen. Because what Xabi did in Leverkusen was a great success. He created a champion team from the young players and the players he recently transferred.

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It will not be Xavi, it will be Xabi. They will be completely different people. Also Erik Ten Hag has a very good career history with Ajax. This career history took him to the Premier League. However, his failure in the Premier League is talked about more. There is no doubt that he is a good coach, but we do not know if he can fill Xabi's void in Leverkusen. Because what Xabi did in Leverkusen was a great success. He created a champion team from the young players and the players he recently transferred.

I'm not a big believer in Ten Hag's skills. He might have done well in Eredivisie, but that's a different level from the Premier League or Bundesliga.
I don't even blame him for Man United's poor performance, he's actually not looking that bad compared to United's current manager (Ruben Amorim) who ended the season in the worst league position since the 70s (if I remember correctly). But what I disliked about him when he was leading United is that he didn't seem to be doing much to improve the team's performance. Is like he was carrying on with the same tactic, somehow expecting different results. A good manager should be able to adapt and be proactive.

Overall, I think it will be hard for Leverkusen to either win the league or even finish in the 2nd place next season. I predict Bayern to defend the title and expect Dortmund to be the top contender, if they play as good as they did at the end of the season.

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June 05, 2025, 09:44:59 PM
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I also hope that the Leverkusen team can still be a strong competitor in the Bundesliga even though Alonso is no longer coached.

I am not very optimistic about that point especially that many Bayer Leverkusen players are looked for by many teams and Xabi Alonso himself. Additionally, Ten Hag has his way of players selections and might change drastically the technics and the way of the gameplay for the team.
I should wait for some games in the beginning of the season to get a clearer idea, until then I hope Bayer Leverkusen will stay in the top spots. I am waiting to see Borussia Dortmund competing Bayern Munich for the title next season.
Judging from the team performance last season, I think they can still remain competitive next season because they signed a manager who is also good and compete against almost all the managers in the Bundesliga if he is given enough money to sign players.

Alonso left the team with some good players, although some of them are on their way out of the team and they are important yo the team. Eric Ten Hag will want to sign more players to suit his squad as a manager; he will like to prove himself because he wasn’t able to perform well in Manchester United and some of us complain that the problem is from the team, therefore, there are hopes that he can do better if he get the players he wanted in his squad.

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It will take time for Ten Hag to make changes at Leverkusen because after all the departure of Xabi Alonso has made this team have to go through adjustments. The target next season to compete for the title but it will be difficult to achieve if Leverkusen does not strengthen the team with the swelling of several important players. Everyone associates Ten Hag's failure at Manchester United and maybe many people are pessimistic that Leverkusen under Ten Hag's coaching can be much more successful. Anything can happen but we need to give him time and trust him because who knows he could repeat the success he had at Ajax.

A team like Bayern Leverkusen that have tasted success recently will want to continue to taste it. They failed to win the Bundesliga title last season and lost to Bayern Munich who reclaimed the title from them after they won it from them last season.
I think it will be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to challenge for the Bundesliga title next season because Bayern Munich is building up a squad that can win the Bundesliga title in the next 5 years, which will make it difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga title. Secondly, Bayer Leverkusen sold some of their best players to other clubs, which will make their performance decline, and that will even make it more difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to rival Bayern Munich for the Bundesliga title next season.

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It will take time for Ten Hag to make changes at Leverkusen because after all the departure of Xabi Alonso has made this team have to go through adjustments. The target next season to compete for the title but it will be difficult to achieve if Leverkusen does not strengthen the team with the swelling of several important players. Everyone associates Ten Hag's failure at Manchester United and maybe many people are pessimistic that Leverkusen under Ten Hag's coaching can be much more successful. Anything can happen but we need to give him time and trust him because who knows he could repeat the success he had at Ajax.
A team like Bayern Leverkusen that have tasted success recently will want to continue to taste it. They failed to win the Bundesliga title last season and lost to Bayern Munich who reclaimed the title from them after they won it from them last season.
I think it will be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to challenge for the Bundesliga title next season because Bayern Munich is building up a squad that can win the Bundesliga title in the next 5 years, which will make it difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga title. Secondly, Bayer Leverkusen sold some of their best players to other clubs, which will make their performance decline, and that will even make it more difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to rival Bayern Munich for the Bundesliga title next season.
This should not be so difficult for Ten Hag because Xabi Alonso has built this squad with a fairly strong framework with fairly even strength in all lines, the last two seasons Leverkusen managed to be in the top flight and last season they managed to win the Bundesliga title which should make Ten Hag's job a little easier, Ten Hag only needs to continue the program that has been built by Xabi Alonso and also change a little for improvement in a positive direction.
But I have a little doubt about Ten Hag's quality, because he failed enough with his last team, Manchester United, which made many people doubt it.
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I think it will be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to challenge for the Bundesliga title next season because Bayern Munich is building up a squad that can win the Bundesliga title in the next 5 years, which will make it difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga title. Secondly, Bayer Leverkusen sold some of their best players to other clubs, which will make their performance decline, and that will even make it more difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to rival Bayern Munich for the Bundesliga title next season.
Maybe it's right that they have to compete a lot for this title because I think they are excluding high quality players. As you mentioned that this team has sold some important players to other clubs but on the other hand, their arch-enemy is selectively taking high-quality players into their own hands. This team was once much stronger and they won the title but their current performance proves that they may not be able to come close to the title in the new season either. One thing to remember is that this German league club Bayer Leverkusen has lost their best dribblers one of the notable players being Frimpong, without these players Leverkusen may never be able to offer competitive football.

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June 06, 2025, 11:12:07 AM
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Leverkusen is said to be after Antony by the way. It must be mostly because of Erik ten Hag as he was his old player.  Tongue

Antony must already be looking for a way out not to return to the Red Devils. I bet he would do good at Leverkusen too just as he did at Betis even in a short time period.

Maybe that price tagg was just made because they are in the same League for Bayern Munich , thats what i think.

Yeah it was the main reason. Leverkusen doesn't want to lose one of their best players to one of their direct rivals in the same league. It is reasonable as every big team from different leagues is doing the same.

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I think it will be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to challenge for the Bundesliga title next season because Bayern Munich is building up a squad that can win the Bundesliga title in the next 5 years, which will make it difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga title. Secondly, Bayer Leverkusen sold some of their best players to other clubs, which will make their performance decline, and that will even make it more difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to rival Bayern Munich for the Bundesliga title next season.
The squad owned by Leverkusen can make a new step with Ten Hag because if they have the support of quality players, it will make it easier for Ten Hag to build a team. This is what needs to be maximized because a number of core players they had in the previous season have joined other teams and even though they have difficulty competing for the Bundesliga title with Bayern Munich, at least being able to compete in the top three positions until the end of the season is more than enough. Ten Hag needs to get support from all parties and even though most people doubt him, he needs to be given the trust to prove it.

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June 06, 2025, 01:10:06 PM
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Leverkusen is said to be after Antony by the way. It must be mostly because of Erik ten Hag as he was his old player.  Tongue

Antony must already be looking for a way out not to return to the Red Devils. I bet he would do good at Leverkusen too just as he did at Betis even in a short time period.

It could be speculations, it could also be valid but I have not seen top football journalist talking about  this particular news.Yeah, Erik ten Hag worked with him during his Ajax days, I believe he still sees that potential in him. I will be glad if a solid and quality offer can come for him to be signed. The German League is not as physical as the premier league competition making non physical players like Antony strive. With the German League more technical and pacy, Antony having both will successfully perform over that way.

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June 06, 2025, 01:11:11 PM
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It will take time for Ten Hag to make changes at Leverkusen because after all the departure of Xabi Alonso has made this team have to go through adjustments. The target next season to compete for the title but it will be difficult to achieve if Leverkusen does not strengthen the team with the swelling of several important players. Everyone associates Ten Hag's failure at Manchester United and maybe many people are pessimistic that Leverkusen under Ten Hag's coaching can be much more successful. Anything can happen but we need to give him time and trust him because who knows he could repeat the success he had at Ajax.

A team like Bayern Leverkusen that have tasted success recently will want to continue to taste it. They failed to win the Bundesliga title last season and lost to Bayern Munich who reclaimed the title from them after they won it from them last season.
I think it will be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to challenge for the Bundesliga title next season because Bayern Munich is building up a squad that can win the Bundesliga title in the next 5 years, which will make it difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga title. Secondly, Bayer Leverkusen sold some of their best players to other clubs, which will make their performance decline, and that will even make it more difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to rival Bayern Munich for the Bundesliga title next season.

I think it's too early for you to come to conclusions as to why you think Bayern Munich will possibly remain champions and dominate the league for another five years, Bayern Munich got better than Leverkusen last season and they are building up the team again with the players they are attracting to the club but the transfer market is still available and the current coach of Bayer Leverkusen still has time to shop for new players that will help the team to get better so that they can still challenge Bayern Munich next season and more season to come.

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