Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Juggy777]

Another interesting issue he mentioned: If any player (or staff) tests positive, that team has to go into 14 day quarantine and their last played opponent too. This will of course mess up the schedule and could lead to lots of postponed matches, which would then have to be played at a later point. The schedule is already tight, with 9 rounds to be played until end of June (because of sponsoring contracts). I could see some fraud happening because of that, but that is maybe just in my mad mind. Lets see how this plays out in the end.

Right! Now, I'm concerned that if play resumes and a player eventually tests positive, the organizers might go extra mile to conceal the information from the public knowing that a new positive case could well be the end of the league for this or until there is a more lasting solution.

Right now this is really serious and big issue because if this happen then we can lost some good time then may be next season start can also face some troubles but still we have to wait for 30 April what happen and what they decide.

@Indymoney the league is definitely resuming in May, but I don’t expect them to behave carelessly because everyone will be watching their every move, hence they’ll have to take strict precautions and report any player or staff that tests positive.

Its a difficult situation for all Teams in the german league and in all other leagues in other countries too !
Just in case one team will be have a player tested positive the team cant playing for 2 weeks , and if they got infected from the match i realy dont want to know whats happend then.
Thats would be the best story for the Media and the news and they will be bring some shitstorm to the league.
Everyone wants the league back, but whether thats the right way, i have my thoughts.

We do not know what will happen but if there are opportunities to finish leagues with a few matches left, we should try it. I totally support the idea to finish leagues behind closed stadiums. Cups can be cancelled but leagues should be finished. We can not fear of such situation above and delay league resume too long. Resume them and let see what will happen after that. We might not lose many things if leagues will be postponed again after infected players found but might lose all these seasons with hesitation.

@hd49728 while I’m missing football a lot, but I would have liked if they had waited till June to resume their season but since they have already made their decision I’m just hoping that it doesn’t backfires on them, and we get to see the complete season without any more hurdles.

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https://sports.yahoo.com/bundesliga-could-resume-mid-may-sports-ministers-132720150--sow.html

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@hd49728 while I’m missing football a lot, but I would have liked if they had waited till June to resume their season but since they have already made their decision I’m just hoping that it doesn’t backfires on them, and we get to see the complete season without any more hurdles.

Source:

https://sports.yahoo.com/bundesliga-could-resume-mid-may-sports-ministers-132720150--sow.html

But depending on how the situation is there whether more and more stable or not, if it is still like this then the match will probably not be continued in the middle of May or June, clearly the German government is trying to Bundesliga football can be resumed this season so that there is the champions like before the season.

Everyone is still waiting for the results of a good decision because some European leagues are also still rumors and the match has not yet been decided to continue in the closed door.

[Lafu]

We do not know what will happen but if there are opportunities to finish leagues with a few matches left, we should try it. I totally support the idea to finish leagues behind closed stadiums. Cups can be cancelled but leagues should be finished. We can not fear of such situation above and delay league resume too long. Resume them and let see what will happen after that. We might not lose many things if leagues will be postponed again after infected players found but might lose all these seasons with hesitation.

Dont know what they will be choose specialy for german league , and there are are so many other things connected to it : Champions League , EM2020 and and.....
Lets hope they find the right solution and all went in the end well .

clearly the German government is trying to Bundesliga football can be resumed this season so that there is the champions like before the season.
Everyone is still waiting for the results of a good decision because some European leagues are also still rumors and the match has not yet been decided to continue in the closed door.

The German government has his thoughts about open the League , the DFL wanted that its open again .
Its a bit little crazy that there is no news about that all after 7 days and i hope that we hear something in the next days.

[bct_ail]

A problem with the ghost games can be that if there is a crowd of fans in front of the stadium, maybe the game cannot take place then and it could be scored 2-0 for the opposing team.

„Wenn wir wieder spielen, ist klar ein Argument, dass es nicht zu Zuschaueransammlungen am Stadion kommen darf“, stellte Seifert klar: „Wer das bewusst in Kauf nimmt, nimmt auch in Kauf, dass das Spiel nicht stattfindet. Und das wird im Spielbetrieb natürlich zum Problem. Dann müssen wir uns damit befassen, ob das wie ein abgebrochenes Spiel behandeln und 2:0 für den Gegner werten.“

https://rblive.de/corona/geisterspiele-spielabbruch-bei-fan-ansammlungen-vor-dem-stadion-12483

[tyKiwanuka]

A problem with the ghost games can be that if there is a crowd of fans in front of the stadium, maybe the game cannot take place then and it could be scored 2-0 for the opposing team.

I can see the following scenario and why such a rule is not feasible:

Bayern needs at least a draw in last round for the Championship. They have a home game. 500 supporters from their city rival 1860 dress up as Bayern fans and build such a crowd in front of Allianz Arena. There is no way to tell, if they are indeed Bayern fans or not, because their ID's will show them as Munich/Bavarian residents. Bayern will lose 0-2 and not get crowned champion.

This can of course happen in a lot of other cities/areas too.

[casperBGD]

A problem with the ghost games can be that if there is a crowd of fans in front of the stadium, maybe the game cannot take place then and it could be scored 2-0 for the opposing team.

I can see the following scenario and why such a rule is not feasible:

Bayern needs at least a draw in last round for the Championship. They have a home game. 500 supporters from their city rival 1860 dress up as Bayern fans and build such a crowd in front of Allianz Arena. There is no way to tell, if they are indeed Bayern fans or not, because their ID's will show them as Munich/Bavarian residents. Bayern will lose 0-2 and not get crowned champion.

This can of course happen in a lot of other cities/areas too.

i do not see this as something that is viable for any team to do, you know you will easily recognize whose fans are they, Bayern or 1860 or Augsburg in fact, since it is very close to Munchen, and why someone from, lets say Bochum could not be a fan of Bayern, they are institution in Germany, and have fans all over the country
and of course, that is easy to check, a lot of money is in the game for a few (even 500) fans to bring the championship down

Bayern will get another title this season

[tyKiwanuka]

i do not see this as something that is viable for any team to do, you know you will easily recognize whose fans are they, Bayern or 1860 or Augsburg in fact, (..)

Hmm, so when you see a person, who by ID resides in Munich and wears a Bayern jersey, you can tell that this person is in fact 1860 or Augsburg fan ? I couldn't and I doubt police officers could do.

There were matches in the past, where away fans weren't allowed. This was checked by postal code on the ID. If Bayern was to play in Bochum and no Bayern fans were allowed, then of course a Bayern fan living in Bochum could enter the stadium - but not in the away block and not with Bayern merch. A Bochum fan living in Munich and travelling to that game, could enter, but only as season ticket holder of Bochum.

[casperBGD]

i do not see this as something that is viable for any team to do, you know you will easily recognize whose fans are they, Bayern or 1860 or Augsburg in fact, (..)

Hmm, so when you see a person, who by ID resides in Munich and wears a Bayern jersey, you can tell that this person is in fact 1860 or Augsburg fan ? I couldn't and I doubt police officers could do.

did not say that i could say, i say that police officers can check that easily, and would not cancel the game/season due to that, without even checking their previous history of visiting matches and possession of season cards or similar, it is easy to guess that hard core fans will protest in front of the stadium, not crowd that want to visit the Allianz arena for the first time

it is a lot of money to be left without check who those fans were, if anything similar to this happens, and just register the game 0:2 (or 0:3, as usual)

[bullrun2024bro]

The German newspaper Kicker just reported that the 22nd or the 29th could be "realistic starting dates" to resume the Bundesliga.

The decision as to when professional football in Germany could start again will be taken on May 6th. If there's green light from the government, May 22nd or May 29th would be realistic starting dates in order to give the clubs adequate preparation time in team training [Kicker]

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1255937473227689984

The dates sound reasonable to me, let's see what happens.

[Lafu]

So i guess all eyes are on the 6th of May and waiting for the outcome on that !
Fingers crossed they doing the right thing and that in the mean time the things get better with the pandemic.
If they choose to start there will be some real hectic goes on to manage all things for the 22th or 29th to start the League.

[Indymoney]

The German newspaper Kicker just reported that the 22nd or the 29th could be "realistic starting dates" to resume the Bundesliga.

The decision as to when professional football in Germany could start again will be taken on May 6th. If there's green light from the government, May 22nd or May 29th would be realistic starting dates in order to give the clubs adequate preparation time in team training [Kicker]

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1255937473227689984

The dates sound reasonable to me, let's see what happens.

As its all going I am feeling we will back in ground on 29th May as this is good time for all now taking some more time is realistic as its still risky to do all in very quick session right now.

[tyKiwanuka]

I guess those plans just got a setback, because three players of Cologne tested positive now, while being asymptomatic.

This will of course play in the hands of those people that are against restarting the Bundesliga and make the governments and authorities think twice. I still see no problem in resuming play with proper testing, but I more and more fear an abrupt ending anyway, since I doubt there will be no additional cases during these 9 rounds left to be played. So you will have some chaos and at some point this is unmanageable anymore schedule-wise and some teams have unfair advantage/disadvantage.

In the end, standings as of now will probably be the result of 2019/2020 season.

There really must be loads of untested people carrying this virus without knowing.......

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I saw the news of 3 positive players and I'm shocked that the training session will continue for the teammates of Cologne.

https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Bundesliga/01-05-2020/bundesliga-tre-positivi-colonia-ma-allenamenti-non-si-fermeranno-370637152048.shtml

The final decision for a continuation of the season will be taken on the 06th of May.

[Coyster]

I guess those plans just got a setback, because three players of Cologne tested positive now, while being asymptomatic.
This will of course play in the hands of those people that are against restarting the Bundesliga and make the governments and authorities think twice. I still see no problem in resuming play with proper testing,

What about teams, just like cologne that have players infected by the virus, I know the players can be replaced, but it will obviously reduce the teams full strength, and this players will not perform to the best of their ability when they know their fellow teammates are battling for their lives with the virus. I don't even know what I want anymore, if it's for the league to resume or they wait it out for some more time.

The final decision for a continuation of the season will be taken on the 06th of May.

That's only just a few days away, I'm very sure every detail will be put into consideration. Any decision that's reached will be fine with me, because i'm sure players safety will be considered first before anything else.

[tyKiwanuka]

I still see no problem in resuming play with proper testing,

What about teams, just like cologne that have players infected by the virus, I know the players can be replaced, but it will obviously reduce the teams full strength, and this players will not perform to the best of their ability when they know their fellow teammates are battling for their lives with the virus.

You should put the full quote then, to not put it out of context Because later I wrote:

So you will have some chaos and at some point this is unmanageable anymore schedule-wise and some teams have unfair advantage/disadvantage.

I see no problem health-wise with Bundesliga starting again. People get infected all over the place with this virus - these Cologne players, or at least one of them, got it outside of football as well. Playing football is their job and other people start working again as well. I give you, that football players can't protect themselves properly on the pitch, but otoh these are all young people with no underlying conditions, where the risk of severe cases is small. And they get tested frequently; not like average Joe, who only gets tested if showing symptoms.

I didn't hear any Bundesliga player saying "I am too scared to play", so they are fine with taking this additional small risk too, which really is an important aspect imo. You can't force players to play under these conditions, if they don't want to.

Non-health-wise there is of course a problem, if a player gets infected. I doubt there will be no incidents during these 9 rounds remaining. And this will cause chaos with the schedule and the things you and I mentioned fair-play wise.

[Lafu]

The final decision for a continuation of the season will be taken on the 06th of May.

Lets see if there will be realy done the final decision on the 6th May or that they have a other meeting again .
Guess there are so many questions around the managment for the League and all the teams.
Last time there was not realy some news that they got the meeting for the german league.
But we will see what comes out on 6th , fingers crossed they come up with something good.

[Naida_BR]

I saw the news of 3 positive players and I'm shocked that the training session will continue for the teammates of Cologne.

https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Bundesliga/01-05-2020/bundesliga-tre-positivi-colonia-ma-allenamenti-non-si-fermeranno-370637152048.shtml

The final decision for a continuation of the season will be taken on the 06th of May.

Now that the lockdown is withdrawn the media is going to start saying that it is not such a huge incident of those people who got infected.
They will broadcast it as something normal and like something that it was eminent to happen.
The lockdown is decided to be stopped and there is no way back at least in the near future.

[bct_ail]

Then at the latest when a player, coach, physiotherapist or anyone else from the Bundesliga environment gets infected and falls so ill that he has to go to intensive care, perhaps fighting for his life, there will be a completely different discussion. Surely the players will also consider then whether they will continue to play or not.

[Lafu]

The problem will be when a player getting infected and it effects the playing against other teams.
This would bring some chaos to the whole league again , dont know how they would handle all that.
Or what there Emergency plan is when some kind of things happens , crazy times .

[Naida_BR]

So i guess all eyes are on the 6th of May and waiting for the outcome on that !
Fingers crossed they doing the right thing and that in the mean time the things get better with the pandemic.
If they choose to start there will be some real hectic goes on to manage all things for the 22th or 29th to start the League.

The first matches that are going to be scheduled would be very crucial.
If the hygiene rules are going to be kept then we are going to see a normal Bundesliga championship to happen till it ends. If not, we are going to see another postponement and if a second one happens this will be possibly the cancellation of the league.