Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[bct_ail]

Fingers crossed that they stay in the second League for the next season , because they arent safe for now .

Yes, this is gonna be interesting.  There are actually only two teams left in the race for the releagtion game. Nürnberg and Karlsruhe. 2 points difference. Goal difference also 2.

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[Avirunes]

Yeah nice point. Well they also gotta leave at one point to go for something better in future. It's not that many player have left Leipzig but only Werner is going to leave. Still it would be a challenging task to find someone fitting for role of forward in his place. Also loan deal of Anjelino and Schick is also about to end. Will be interesting to see how they handle up in next season.

It is not all about Werner but about the others and important players who are in loan deals in this season. Anjelino and Patrick Schick are important players of Leipzig. Having another contract with the coach is great but losing Werner and maybe two others Anjelino and Schick is not good.

Recent seasons, we see Ajax lost their key players, from De Jong to De Ligt and Leipzig will almost not avoid the same destiny on transfer market.

I read somewhere that they want to have both Anjelino and Schick as according to their Leipzig sporting director. They both are very good players with their abilities. Anjelino however don't had any intention of joining back according to that article. Schick is also getting interests from many teams. Both players buy out clause are too high for Leipzig. I do hope that they at least get one player out of these two.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/rb-leipzig-roma-reject-euro-25m-offer-for-schick-everton-and-newcastle-interested/view/news/363091

[Darkoth89]

Fingers crossed that they stay in the second League for the next season , because they arent safe for now .

Yes, this is gonna be interesting.  There are actually only two teams left in the race for the releagtion game. Nürnberg and Karlsruhe. 2 points difference. Goal difference also 2.

I still can't believe how Nurnberg managed to get crushed 0:6 one week after they won 6:0. They relegated from the first league last season and now they are in danger relegating again, this time to the third league. Hard to believe they are the team that won the most Bundesliga titles (behind Bayern Munich ofc). Hopefully they manage to secure themself a safe spot. I would miss them if they relegate.

[cryptofrka]

I feel sorry for Leverkusen, they really played some good football throughout the season. The loss vs Hertha probably ends their chances of qualifying for the CL.

It has to be said that Monchengladbach deserves that place, their football is a bit more reactive and defensive but they are more compact and balanced and have even scored more goals with that approach than Leverkusen did with theirs.

At the bottom Werder still has a chance if they beat Koln, which I think will be a good bet to take.

[snipie]

I feel sorry for Leverkusen, they really played some good football throughout the season. The loss vs Hertha probably ends their chances of qualifying for the CL.

It has to be said that Monchengladbach deserves that place, their football is a bit more reactive and defensive but they are more compact and balanced and have even scored more goals with that approach than Leverkusen did with theirs.

At the bottom Werder still has a chance if they beat Koln, which I think will be a good bet to take.

I wouldn't say mission impossible for Leverkusen and Bremen but their last game was disappointing and made things very hard for them. Both teams had to win their next game + expect M'Gladbach and Düsseldorf to lose their match since even a draw doesn't guarantee anything. Goal difference is quite bad 

[tyKiwanuka]

Hard to believe they are the team that won the most Bundesliga titles (behind Bayern Munich ofc). Hopefully they manage to secure themself a safe spot. I would miss them if they relegate.

They did win only one title in Bundesliga (1967/1968), but were very successful in collecting titles before that. Them being so poor for a long time is just the result of decades of mismanagement and other clubs catching up and overtaking. After the championship in 1968 things went downhill and they never were able to establish themselves as more than a mediocre team in Bundesliga at best. They always struggled a bit money-wise and there was always some agiation inside the club. They had some highs with good players and a functioning team/environment, but weren't able to back it up longterm.

In the 80's and 90's you could get away with it to some extent, since the smaller clubs were still even poorer in terms of management and finances. But since around 20 years, you have more and more of those smaller clubs making huge progress and if you don't get your act together you will be left behind. These smaller clubs like Freiburg, Augsburg, Mainz are here to stay, because they perform very well in all regards and there is no agitation at all. And then you have the clubs with big-ish money like Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg, Leipzig. There is just no place for clubs like Nürnberg in Bundesliga anymore, unless they change their whole structure by 180 degrees. And the fans and media also play a big role in it. You aren't the big and great Nürnberg anymore - you are a mediocre team with huge tradition, but thats it. You can't buy anything with tradition. The clubs, fans, media need to be more humble and stop living from past success. Have a fresh start.

Nürnberg is a lot like many teams from the good old days. Clubs like Frankfurt, Cologne, Gladbach relegated as well, but they were able to come back big time, especially Frankfurt and Gladbach. But you also have Kaiserslautern, who just filed for bankruptcy and play in 3rd league against amateurs of Bayern Munich. Stuttgart and Hamburg are the next clubs, that could go either way. Either they will be able to follow the route of Frankfurt/Gladbach and establish themselves as an above average team in Bundesliga again or they will probably be stuck in 2. Bundesliga or lower for ages.

It all starts with the management/coach and making good decisions, but a lot of big clubs just lack in this department. They have way more money than Mainz/Augsburg/Freiburg and are also able to earn way more money, if they are successful, but they are just too dumb.

[Naida_BR]

I feel sorry for Leverkusen, they really played some good football throughout the season. The loss vs Hertha probably ends their chances of qualifying for the CL.

It has to be said that Monchengladbach deserves that place, their football is a bit more reactive and defensive but they are more compact and balanced and have even scored more goals with that approach than Leverkusen did with theirs.

At the bottom Werder still has a chance if they beat Koln, which I think will be a good bet to take.

Nothing has ended for them.
They are 2 points behind Gladbach and 3 behind Leipzig, If one of the two teams lose points then Leverkusen is back in the game. I think that this fight for the Champions League position is going to last till the end.

[Lafu]

I still can't believe how Nurnberg managed to get crushed 0:6 one week after they won 6:0. They relegated from the first league last season and now they are in danger relegating again, this time to the third league. Hard to believe they are the team that won the most Bundesliga titles (behind Bayern Munich ofc). Hopefully they manage to secure themself a safe spot. I would miss them if they relegate.

Dont worry i cant believe that eigther and they was playing better before the pandemic but i guess the most teams have done that.
Yeb hopefully they can manage there spot to stay in the second League.

And if we see Heidenheim in the relegation for the first League i guess they dont can handle the matches well , and if they get into the League they have a hard time in the first League.
We will see that the coming weekend what will happend wirh all othe teams .

[Avirunes]

I feel sorry for Leverkusen, they really played some good football throughout the season. The loss vs Hertha probably ends their chances of qualifying for the CL.

It has to be said that Monchengladbach deserves that place, their football is a bit more reactive and defensive but they are more compact and balanced and have even scored more goals with that approach than Leverkusen did with theirs.

At the bottom Werder still has a chance if they beat Koln, which I think will be a good bet to take.

Both Monchengladbach and Leverkusen played a good season. Whoever gets the spot, it doesn't matter much to me but I would be a bit inclined towards Leverkusen since I always root for last round action and like the last round table shifts a lot. So far I haven't seen such chances taken but hope I get to see so in last.

Werder only have chance if they win and Dusseldorf loses.

[cygan]

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Werder only have chance if they win and Dusseldorf loses.

it's finally time for the next "werder wunder" on the last matchday...!

[TheGreatPython]

There has been a ton of teams that were once very successful but now not so much and we can all agree that almost 100% of them are due to mismanagement. Teams care about players a lot, they pay the players the most money and spend not so much for the rest of the team, this is a business after all and you can't just invest into one part of the business and forget about the others.

Teams who got that money which is millions of euros so it is not even little, and some of them spent it on the buildings, the schools, the academy the stadium and many stuff like that and even had places where they educate coaches so that they would have properly educated coaches for the youth teams as well. So, if you spend the money to be a huge business that could never fail and always works no matter if the main team loses, you will do fine.

[bct_ail]

The last matchday will be held at this weekend and currently it seems that there were no relevant diseases with corona in the Bundesliga. So the hygiene concept seems to have worked.  I would not have thought that it works so well.

[snipie]

The last matchday will be held at this weekend and currently it seems that there were no relevant diseases with corona in the Bundesliga. So the hygiene concept seems to have worked.  I would not have thought that it works so well.

The spread of the disease in Germany and Europe in general slowed down and the virus kind of moved to the American continent thanks to the serious measures taken by govs even if it was a little bit late.
4 long days before closing Bundesliga drama and know if Bremen will relegate or get a second chance 

[Avirunes]

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Werder only have chance if they win and Dusseldorf loses.

it's finally time for the next "werder wunder" on the last matchday...!

Seems hard to me since Werder have been performing really bad. Their defence has now worsened and Cologne is not that bad side either in terms of attacking. Also Werder is also struggling to score as well which is also something to worry here. The margin is very slim for Werder but as long as you have chance I hope they put their all best in the last round.

Leipzig has also has qualified for the champions league spot but I would turn my attention to Gladbach and Leverkusen matches in the next.

[qomariah95]

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Werder only have chance if they win and Dusseldorf loses.

it's finally time for the next "werder wunder" on the last matchday...!

This is very difficult to predict, because anything can happen in this last match. What determines whether to survive or not for Werder. And certainly Dusseldorf will certainly use one more match to stay in the bundesliga and werder hoping for a defeat for Dusseldorf, even though the chances are very few. We look forward to this weekend.

[Naida_BR]

The last matchday will be held at this weekend and currently it seems that there were no relevant diseases with corona in the Bundesliga. So the hygiene concept seems to have worked.  I would not have thought that it works so well.

The spread of the disease in Germany and Europe in general slowed down and the virus kind of moved to the American continent thanks to the serious measures taken by govs even if it was a little bit late.
4 long days before closing Bundesliga drama and know if Bremen will relegate or get a second chance 

It is very sad to watch Bundesliga in order to see if a team is going to be relegated or not.
Feels like all other incidents have no meaning now - like who is going to be the title winner.

[snipie]

The last matchday will be held at this weekend and currently it seems that there were no relevant diseases with corona in the Bundesliga. So the hygiene concept seems to have worked.  I would not have thought that it works so well.

The spread of the disease in Germany and Europe in general slowed down and the virus kind of moved to the American continent thanks to the serious measures taken by govs even if it was a little bit late.
4 long days before closing Bundesliga drama and know if Bremen will relegate or get a second chance 

It is very sad to watch Bundesliga in order to see if a team is going to be relegated or not.
Feels like all other incidents have no meaning now - like who is going to be the title winner.

Yeah it is sad indeed. Bayern already picked the 1st spot since few rounds, Dortmund 2nd, Leipzig in CL, Leverkusen or M'Gladbach for the 4th spot with a clear advantage for M'Gladbach. Wolfsburg/Hoffenheim in Europa League. Paderborn already relegated. Bremen/Düsseldorf to be relegated or has a second chance.
Basically this round isn't very very interesting except of Bremen and Leverkusen games. At the opposite Serie A and La Liga, the first places aren't yet secured by any team

[bct_ail]

I guess that Bremen has a slight advantage. If they lose, they will still stay in 17th place. So they have nothing left to lose. All they can do is win. Even if they play very well and win but Düsseldorf wins too, the media and fans will say they have fight and gave it their all.

[snipie]

A little bit annoyed so I decided to see the rank of Bundesliga teams based on their points (without goals difference) after the restart. So I take on consideration only the last 8 games so max 24 points.
1- Bayern             (24 pts)
2- Dortmund       (21 18 pts)
3- Hoffenheim    (14 pts)
3- Frankfurt         (14 pts)
5- Leipzig            (13 pts)
5- M'Gladbach    (13 pts)
5- Leverkusen     (13 pts)
5- Wolfsburg       (13 pts)
5- Hertha             (13 pts)
10- Mainz            (11 pts)
11- Bremen         (10 pts)
12- Freiburg        (9 pts)
12- Augsburg      (9 pts)
14- Union             (8 pts)
14- Düsseldorf    (8 pts)
16- Koln               (4 pts)
16- Paderborn    (4 pts)
18- Schalke 0     (2 pts)

Edit: fixing Dortmund points. Thanks Darkoth89

[bct_ail]

A little bit annoyed so I decided to see the rank of Bundesliga teams based on their points (without goals difference) after the restart. So I take on consideration only the last 8 games so max 24 points.
1- Bayern             (24 pts)
2- Dortmund       (21 pts)
3- Hoffenheim    (14 pts)
3- Frankfurt         (14 pts)
5- Leipzig            (13 pts)
5- M'Gladbach    (13 pts)
5- Leverkusen     (13 pts)
5- Wolfsburg       (13 pts)
5- Hertha             (13 pts)
10- Mainz            (11 pts)
11- Bremen         (10 pts)
12- Freiburg        (9 pts)
12- Augsburg      (9 pts)
14- Union             (8 pts)
14- Düsseldorf    (8 pts)
16- Koln               (4 pts)
16- Paderborn    (4 pts)
18- Schalke 0     (2 pts)

Thanks for that. It's really interesting and it shows very well which teams have put the pedal to the metal.
You can also see very well the contrasts between your table and the Bundesliga table. Especially between Frankfurt and Schalke.