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October 03, 2023, 06:36:32 PM
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Although Dortmund seems to have a bit more advantage since they will be playing in Germany, Milan is not a bad team at all. It was last year's semi-finalist team. They lost the chance to reach the final against Inter. I don't know how they will play this year. Milan - Dortmund match looks like it will be balanced.

We can not predict the possible outcome of the game because this is UEFA Champions League were average clubs becomes fierce and strong against elite clubs. Edin Terzic is yet to accumulate any points in UCL but looking towards his second game would give supporters hope because it's home advantage for Dortmund. Perhaps AC Milan have brilliant players who are keen on meeting difficult tasks this season. Borrusia Dortmund in trouble as they lost their first UCL game to Paris Saint-Germain. It's a must win game for them at Signal-Iduna-Park against AC Milan.

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October 03, 2023, 06:37:16 PM
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The season has just started and there are 28 matches to go. The team that is consistent in such a long-term marathon wins the cup. The golden key to Bayern Munich being champions for years is their stability. Stuttgart and Leverkusen started the league very well. What matters is whether they will continue this start or not. If they don't continue, they will look for the opportunity to finish the league in the top four again. I hope they continue it consistently.


My prediction is that Stuttgart who have started well will continue in this fine form just like we had surprise packages like Union Berlin last season. They could gather points to finish in the top four and qualify for the champions league. But as for the league tittle I don’t see them fighting for that because of their squad depth. They don’t have enough players on bench to influence any game when they come on.

My surprise pick to challenge for the title against Bayern Munich will be Bayer Leverkusen because they have what it take to win this title due to how they finish last season and the players they’ve added this summer

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October 03, 2023, 06:42:14 PM
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Bayer Leverkusen and Stuttgart can't withstand Bundesliga giant in the second leg, because they're not yet ready to keep consistency in winning games. Bundesliga table changing this season, I'm confident it's not yet time for such history to be breaken because these elite competitive clubs can actually bounced back to streak winning ways unlike some random team that's starts the season in good shape, they won't be able to bear the heat when it's been heated up immensely. Bayern Munich and Borrusia Dortmund will returned to their regular domination positions in time, after all there's still a long way go in the league.
So far, I have seen trends in some European leagues like this. There are always surprises on teams that were not very good last season to top the provisional class. But in the end they were unable to maintain the stability of the team. So that they decrease and disappear from above. Leverkusen are indeed quite good, they are rising gradually with Xabi Alonso. For Stuttgart this is surprising, indeed they were once a great club. But in some periods they were even close to relegation.
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October 03, 2023, 08:59:11 PM
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I can't say that for Borussia Dortmund this year. They fell below my expectations in the match they played. I was expecting the impression of a better team, scoring more goals and thinking more about attack, but I was wrong. The only opponent against Bayern will probably be Leverkusen. There may be a championship race between the two this year.
For sure they are behind my and i guess anybodys expectations from there playing that they can.
But i think that Dortmund can be still count for an race between the other teams like Bayern Munich and Leverkusen for title.
Maybe there are mor teams coming into that race like Stuttgart and maybe Leipzig.
In the whole Dortmund isnt that bad and they got a few times unlucky only.

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October 03, 2023, 10:11:53 PM
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So far they're the only team that's pressured Bayern Munich this season and it now looks like they know the secret of beating them but luckily for Bayern they escaped today's defeat, Bayern dominated the game most times but were so unlucky with their finishing but I love how the players of Leipzig were so composed and scored early goals that would that made Bayern got their first defeat in the Bundesliga this season.
We can say that's the fact. It cannot be denied that Leipzig and Leverkusen are tough enough to be Bayern's opponents. Leipzig, they have been opponents of Bayern several times which is quite worthy of consideration, moreover they also have good experience in the UEFA league, so at least, the players' mentality is quite tough. Leverkusen, this season is really on the rise, their competence has really improved and is consistent. They were also able to hold Bayern to a draw at that time. However, they also have to prove themselves in other matches because sometimes, playing well and consistently is difficult at certain moments.


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October 03, 2023, 11:39:26 PM
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The season has just started and there are 28 matches to go. The team that is consistent in such a long-term marathon wins the cup. The golden key to Bayern Munich being champions for years is their stability. Stuttgart and Leverkusen started the league very well. What matters is whether they will continue this start or not. If they don't continue, they will look for the opportunity to finish the league in the top four again. I hope they continue it consistently.


My prediction is that Stuttgart who have started well will continue in this fine form just like we had surprise packages like Union Berlin last season. They could gather points to finish in the top four and qualify for the champions league. But as for the league tittle I don’t see them fighting for that because of their squad depth. They don’t have enough players on bench to influence any game when they come on.

My surprise pick to challenge for the title against Bayern Munich will be Bayer Leverkusen because they have what it take to win this title due to how they finish last season and the players they’ve added this summer

I think nobody could ever predict to see Stuttgart at this place. Because compared to other teams like Dortmund and especially compared to Bayern Munich Stuttgart is not a strong team and they didn't buy players this season. Also, Stuttgart didn't have a high amount of investment. I think Stuttgart doesn't have enough potential and they will lose this place sooner or later in this season.

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October 04, 2023, 12:31:47 AM
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Although Bayer Leverkusen has been leading this season, I can't say or believe that they will win the league. Everyone wants to see a team surpass Bayern Munich's records, which have stood for more than ten years, but it's very difficult to do. As you mentioned, Dortmund tried to do this in their final game of the previous season, but Munich ultimately came up and won the league. Even though Stuttgart is already in the top 2, their performances this season have really taken me by surprise, it will be difficult to predict for the time being whether Leverkusen will stay at the top to win the league. Leverkusen is currently leading Bayern Munich by just two points, and while I do not believe that Leverkusen will be able to win every game they play until the end of the season, I am still unsure that Bayern Munich will win the league at any point this season. They are not as weak as people may perceive them to be based on their performances.
It's still too early to predict who will win the Bundesliga title this season, but as usual I think Bayern Munich is the favorite team to defend its title every season. Leverkusen are a few points ahead of Bayern Munich at the moment, but I really struggle to expect them to be consistent and not drop points even for the first half of the season.
Bayern Munich certainly had competition at the start of this season in the league standings, but I don't doubt them any more than I doubt Leverkusen and Stuttgart. I believe Leverkusen will decline slowly, but they have hopes of leading the standings for the next few games.

In the Bundesliga almost every season we see several teams competing for the title at the beginning of the season. But in the end the teams cannot survive in the competition. Last season we saw Union Berlin at the top of the table for a long time. Besides, the Dortmund team also tried till the end of the season to win the title. However, at the end of the season, we saw the Bayern Munich team become champions.

Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Dortmund and Leipzig are doing very well this season. But I have considerable doubts about whether the parties will be able to maintain consistency. It is very difficult for these groups to maintain consistency. But I guess the Leverkusen team will fight hard for the title this year with Bayern Munich.

ShowOff, I will say that if they are able to perform well continuously till the 25th match, and if they are also able to stay in the first three positions consistently, they will probably give a good fight to Bayern Munich for the title. And it is still definitely very early to say what is going to happen at the end of the season. But I believe they will be able to finish in the top four easily. Unless something really bad happens. Something like they fall into a big problem of injuries or something like that. Otherwise, I see them performing consistently.

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October 04, 2023, 01:08:50 AM
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Although Bayer Leverkusen has been leading this season, I can't say or believe that they will win the league. Everyone wants to see a team surpass Bayern Munich's records, which have stood for more than ten years, but it's very difficult to do. As you mentioned, Dortmund tried to do this in their final game of the previous season, but Munich ultimately came up and won the league. Even though Stuttgart is already in the top 2, their performances this season have really taken me by surprise, it will be difficult to predict for the time being whether Leverkusen will stay at the top to win the league. Leverkusen is currently leading Bayern Munich by just two points, and while I do not believe that Leverkusen will be able to win every game they play until the end of the season, I am still unsure that Bayern Munich will win the league at any point this season. They are not as weak as people may perceive them to be based on their performances.
It's still too early to predict who will win the Bundesliga title this season, but as usual I think Bayern Munich is the favorite team to defend its title every season. Leverkusen are a few points ahead of Bayern Munich at the moment, but I really struggle to expect them to be consistent and not drop points even for the first half of the season.
Bayern Munich certainly had competition at the start of this season in the league standings, but I don't doubt them any more than I doubt Leverkusen and Stuttgart. I believe Leverkusen will decline slowly, but they have hopes of leading the standings for the next few games.

In the Bundesliga almost every season we see several teams competing for the title at the beginning of the season. But in the end the teams cannot survive in the competition. Last season we saw Union Berlin at the top of the table for a long time. Besides, the Dortmund team also tried till the end of the season to win the title. However, at the end of the season, we saw the Bayern Munich team become champions.

Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Dortmund and Leipzig are doing very well this season. But I have considerable doubts about whether the parties will be able to maintain consistency. It is very difficult for these groups to maintain consistency. But I guess the Leverkusen team will fight hard for the title this year with Bayern Munich.

ShowOff, I will say that if they are able to perform well continuously till the 25th match, and if they are also able to stay in the first three positions consistently, they will probably give a good fight to Bayern Munich for the title. And it is still definitely very early to say what is going to happen at the end of the season. But I believe they will be able to finish in the top four easily. Unless something really bad happens. Something like they fall into a big problem of injuries or something like that. Otherwise, I see them performing consistently.
Of course, the rivalry between Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund has continued but the two clubs are not the strongest subject of view for now though they will still find their way to the top as they always do. They play almost the same way now, and as you had said, it's too early to pass a good judgement on what they could eventually end with. Still, the 25th match might be too long to pass judgment as the club that didn't perform well in the Bundesliga to that extent might not be able to find their firm feet anymore. Bayern, in particular, should get more serious, too much drawing might cost them a lot, while my doubts on Dortmund is minimal, yet they should still maintain a top level so that it wouldn't be a hard task when the pressure is becoming high.

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October 04, 2023, 05:04:34 AM
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The Champions League it is still quite difficult to see who will emerge as champions because they still have a lot of matches to go through. Currently Bayern Munich is lucky enough to have a sharp striker and if the midfielder is able to provide measured passes it will make it easier for Harry Kane to score goals in every match. This season's Champions League gives greater hope for Bayern Munich and I think it depends on how far they can advance to the quarterfinals.
I think we all know that Kane has only joined Munich for a few matches, he still needs to adapt as do the other players in order to create solidarity between players on the field so that it can make it easier for Kane to score more goals in each match, I think Munich is not in vain spending a lot money to buy Kane from Tottenham to Munich and he has made his contribution to Munich in the last few games.

Kane may not have a future with Tottenham in both the domestic league and UCL, of course this is an opportunity for Kane to show his ability to score goals as a sharp striker for Munich to win the championship title in the Bundesliga and UCL this season. At least Kane can get his first title in Munich this season and I'm sure he wants that.

With Kane in the Bayern Munich squad, there is at least hope for Bayern Munich to have better results in the Champions League. But of course, at this moment, Bayern Munich still have to improve the quality of their performance in the Bundesliga, because up to the sixth week, Bayern Munich is still in third place. Something that may be difficult to accept is that Bayern Munich is below Stuttgart at this moment with one point gap. Therefore, I think Bayern Munich should focus more first on improving their performance in the Bundesliga. Because of course, if Bayern Munich succeeds in improving its quality in the Bundesliga, then that will also have a good impact on Bayern Munich's results in the Champions League.
In my opinion, Bayern Munich's strongest rivals at the moment are Stuttgart and also Leverkusen. To occupy first place, Bayern Munich must win the match against Freiburg, but it is likely that Leverkusen and Bayern Munich will chase each other on points to fight for first position in the Bundesliga and if Leverkusen is able to win the match against Koln, of course Leverkusen will still be in first place with points that are much higher than Bayern Munich and it will be increasingly difficult for Bayern Munich to catch up on points to occupy first place in the Bundesliga.

So far the performance of both clubs is in good condition and so far Xabi Alonso deserves appreciation because he has succeeded in improving Leverkusen performance so that they can occupy first place. We will see to what extent Xabi Alonso is able to make his men continue to appear impressive when they face matches in the Champions League which is of course increasingly difficult.

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October 04, 2023, 05:52:44 AM
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I can't say that for Borussia Dortmund this year. They fell below my expectations in the match they played. I was expecting the impression of a better team, scoring more goals and thinking more about attack, but I was wrong. The only opponent against Bayern will probably be Leverkusen. There may be a championship race between the two this year.
But slowly Dortmund started to show something encouraging, they started to be able to win matches quite convincingly, and it seemed like the players who left the team affected them enough that they needed enough time to be able to adjust and start to look successful, by winning 3 matches in a row, but if they want to break Bayern Munich's dominance, it looks like that still won't happen, Dortmund must be a better team from the start of the season and not let them lose too many points so they can continue to stick with Munich, but they have lost 4 points the same as Munich but we can always see that Bayern Munich will always be able to find a way to get back to the top.

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October 04, 2023, 06:01:39 AM
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I think nobody could ever predict to see Stuttgart at this place. Because compared to other teams like Dortmund and especially compared to Bayern Munich Stuttgart is not a strong team and they didn't buy players this season. Also, Stuttgart didn't have a high amount of investment. I think Stuttgart doesn't have enough potential and they will lose this place sooner or later in this season.
Stuttgart isn't a weak team, from the beginning of the season they have really started on a very good note and ever since they just keep getting better by the games, as compared to last season we wouldn't want to believe Stuttgart will be at the position they are now even with the other bigger teams present. Stuttgart has played six games so far and have lost just one they are at the second position with fifteen points, they have stayed unbeaten at their home since this season.

The results Stuttgart has achieved this season is one that we expected of other teams which are seen as quite bigger teams such as Dortmund, Leipzig, Wolfsburg and munchengladbach. All these other teams are also doing well for them selves but then Stuttgart seems to surprise us as to how well they have performed this season and the position they are at already.

Dortmund last season was very good such that one would think they would win the league but it seems this season Thay have began on a slower pase and may hopefully do better as time goes on, although they are at forth position which means they are not doing really bad, they have won four out of six games played so far and drew two, they are at fourteen points which means they are just one point away from Stuttgart so they are still on track aswell.

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October 04, 2023, 06:32:19 AM
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I can't say that for Borussia Dortmund this year. They fell below my expectations in the match they played. I was expecting the impression of a better team, scoring more goals and thinking more about attack, but I was wrong. The only opponent against Bayern will probably be Leverkusen. There may be a championship race between the two this year.
But slowly Dortmund started to show something encouraging, they started to be able to win matches quite convincingly, and it seemed like the players who left the team affected them enough that they needed enough time to be able to adjust and start to look successful, by winning 3 matches in a row, but if they want to break Bayern Munich's dominance, it looks like that still won't happen, Dortmund must be a better team from the start of the season and not let them lose too many points so they can continue to stick with Munich, but they have lost 4 points the same as Munich but we can always see that Bayern Munich will always be able to find a way to get back to the top.
Dortmund has always been a serious challenger, until now Dortmund have not been defeated in the Bundesliga, only they failed to get full points in two matches because they ended in a draw. I don't dare to conclude because this is still in the early stages of starting the competition, but the competition this season is a bit tough because several other teams are also starting to show very good trends. Bayern Munich is always the favorite but Bayern Leverkusen and Stuttgart will be obstacles for the Bavarians to dominate again. I think the Bundesliga is starting to show rapid development so that it is no longer boring.

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October 04, 2023, 06:43:06 AM
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The Champions League it is still quite difficult to see who will emerge as champions because they still have a lot of matches to go through. Currently Bayern Munich is lucky enough to have a sharp striker and if the midfielder is able to provide measured passes it will make it easier for Harry Kane to score goals in every match. This season's Champions League gives greater hope for Bayern Munich and I think it depends on how far they can advance to the quarterfinals.
Bayern Munich have ultimate targets to hits this season, one is coming out as Bundesliga champion and winng the UEFA Champions League. Though it's definitely going to be a tough run for them but things will be much easier if they maintain high level of football pattern and consistency in streak winnings. Champions are for strong elite teams and Bayern Munich falls among this category. Bayern Munich manager, Thomas Tuchel have everything within his possession to lifts significant titles this season for the team. Last season, he got appointed to replace Julian Nagelsmann and Thomas Tuchel performance was extremely poor.

If Bayern Munich do not achieve the maximum this season, it is entirely their own fault. Bayern Munich is a full team this season. The team management has not left any weakness in this team so it is natural that their expectations will be the highest with this team. 
Bayern Munich have looked consistent in the Champions League so far and they will look to maintain their consistency in the Champions League. Besides being consistent in the Champions League, they need to be a consistent enough team in the Bundesliga to win the Bundesliga title as well as do well in the Champions League. 

We won't be surprised if Bayern Munich win the Champions League and Bundesliga this season.

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October 04, 2023, 07:08:30 AM
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I can't say that for Borussia Dortmund this year. They fell below my expectations in the match they played. I was expecting the impression of a better team, scoring more goals and thinking more about attack, but I was wrong. The only opponent against Bayern will probably be Leverkusen. There may be a championship race between the two this year.
But slowly Dortmund started to show something encouraging, they started to be able to win matches quite convincingly, and it seemed like the players who left the team affected them enough that they needed enough time to be able to adjust and start to look successful, by winning 3 matches in a row, but if they want to break Bayern Munich's dominance, it looks like that still won't happen, Dortmund must be a better team from the start of the season and not let them lose too many points so they can continue to stick with Munich, but they have lost 4 points the same as Munich but we can always see that Bayern Munich will always be able to find a way to get back to the top.
I'm not sure that Dortmund can break Bayern Munich's dominance because since last season, Dortmund has always been Bayern Munich's shadow.
However, this season I see that there are several other teams that will compete fiercely with Bayern Munich at the top of the standings and it is not Dortmund, there are Leverkusen and Leipzig who have very good team strength this season and they are very likely to be able to disturb Bayern Munich at the top of the standings. .
And Dortmund this season does look weaker than last season, at the moment it is still not visible, but in terms of team strength and actual team performance, I really doubt Dortmund this season.

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October 04, 2023, 07:55:03 AM
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I think we all know that Kane has only joined Munich for a few matches, he still needs to adapt as do the other players in order to create solidarity between players on the field so that it can make it easier for Kane to score more goals in each match, I think Munich is not in vain spending a lot money to buy Kane from Tottenham to Munich and he has made his contribution to Munich in the last few games.

Kane may not have a future with Tottenham in both the domestic league and UCL, of course this is an opportunity for Kane to show his ability to score goals as a sharp striker for Munich to win the championship title in the Bundesliga and UCL this season. At least Kane can get his first title in Munich this season and I'm sure he wants that.
Harry Kane has adapted well to the other players in Tuchel's squad and he even managed to record his first hat trick against Bochum. Harry Kane's scoring productivity in the Bundesliga shows good statistics and is difficult for other players to achieve and Bayern Munich's decision to recruit Harry Kane from Tottenham at a high price is very appropriate because he has proven his quality as a striker who has above average quality.

The Bundesliga title is still quite open because their dominance is still quite difficult to balance, even though currently their points are equivalent to second place in the standings, have you ever noticed one thing that happened at Tottenham. Harry Kane's departure to Bayern Munich means that Tottenham are unbeaten to date and Tottenham is one of the candidates who can compete for the title this season.

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October 04, 2023, 08:30:10 AM
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The Champions League it is still quite difficult to see who will emerge as champions because they still have a lot of matches to go through. Currently Bayern Munich is lucky enough to have a sharp striker and if the midfielder is able to provide measured passes it will make it easier for Harry Kane to score goals in every match. This season's Champions League gives greater hope for Bayern Munich and I think it depends on how far they can advance to the quarterfinals.
Bayern Munich have ultimate targets to hits this season, one is coming out as Bundesliga champion and winng the UEFA Champions League. Though it's definitely going to be a tough run for them but things will be much easier if they maintain high level of football pattern and consistency in streak winnings. Champions are for strong elite teams and Bayern Munich falls among this category. Bayern Munich manager, Thomas Tuchel have everything within his possession to lifts significant titles this season for the team. Last season, he got appointed to replace Julian Nagelsmann and Thomas Tuchel performance was extremely poor.

Bayern Munich is the same as Manchester City or Real Madrid in terms of their target of winning the Champions League and they have done it very well over the seasons, it's just that sometimes the results they want are not fully achieved. However, if we talk about their target for the Bundesliga, there is no doubt that they will become champions again and maybe sometimes at the start of the season they don't have a good start as capital.

But what is clear is that Bayern Munich is still the sole champion of the Bundesliga and even though Dortmund is always shadowing them, that is not a problem because there are times when other teams like Dortmund or others lose their consistency towards the end of the season. Regarding the coach, I think Tuchel is starting to understand how the Bayern Munich squad works and it seems like he is starting to be able to adapt to the players and provide the best strategy.

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October 04, 2023, 08:46:37 AM
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If Bayern Munich do not achieve the maximum this season, it is entirely their own fault. Bayern Munich is a full team this season. The team management has not left any weakness in this team so it is natural that their expectations will be the highest with this team. 
Bayern Munich have looked consistent in the Champions League so far and they will look to maintain their consistency in the Champions League. Besides being consistent in the Champions League, they need to be a consistent enough team in the Bundesliga to win the Bundesliga title as well as do well in the Champions League. 

We won't be surprised if Bayern Munich win the Champions League and Bundesliga this season.
The key is for Bayern Munchen to be consistent and focused on getting points. Tuchel has a tough task to make FC Hollywood continue to dominate the Bundesliga. Improved performance of Laberkusen, Vfb, Dortmund and Leipzig could be a real threat to Munchen, Laverkusen leads the top of the points table and Vfb is below it, with a difference of 2 points. Munchen must be willing to sit in 3rd place in the standings. I think it proves that this season is more competitive than the previous season, Tuchel has to be really alert.

Even though he is the favorite in the two competitions UCL and Bundesliga, sometimes bad results can happen at any time. With two consecutive wins in the group phase making Munchen lead the Group A standings, I think Munchen can easily qualify for the last 16 with group winner status and get perfect points.

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October 04, 2023, 10:01:40 AM
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Bayern Munich surprised me in the Copenhagen game a lot. I was expecting a comfortable game for them honestly. But after seeing Copenhagen scoring first I really doubted Bayern Munich about the win. They finally scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of the game but they must also be not satisfied with their performance.

I assume they didn't prepare well for this game. Maybe they underestimated their opponent I don't know. Because they didn't play like this against Manchester United in Allianz Arena. I'm confident about one thing that they will get more prepared for their next Champions League game.

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October 04, 2023, 11:54:41 AM
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Bayern Munich surprised me in the Copenhagen game a lot. I was expecting a comfortable game for them honestly. But after seeing Copenhagen scoring first I really doubted Bayern Munich about the win. They finally scored the winning goal in the last ten minutes of the game but they must also be not satisfied with their performance.

I assume they didn't prepare well for this game. Maybe they underestimated their opponent I don't know. Because they didn't play like this against Manchester United in Allianz Arena. I'm confident about one thing that they will get more prepared for their next Champions League game.
2-1 is enough for them to occupy first place on group standings and yesterday Tuchel has did a small change into Bayern Munich starting lineup with putting Goretzka into the bench and Laimer as a midfielder and Mazraoui was played as right back i think this strategy was not so effective because Bayern Munich was not able to performing well but although Bayern Munich didn't win with big scores but at least they can collect 3 points from this match

Tuchel probably considering the match against Copenhagen is too easy for Bayern Munich so that's why he did some experiment and rotation to Bayern Munich squad but i can understand why he did that because in Bundesliga Bayern Munich position doesn't really good so he have to focus for upcoming match and this weekend Bayern Munich will playing against Freiburg at their home ground and Freiburg is not the team who cannot be underestimate

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