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February 19, 2024, 03:34:38 AM
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As I said some several posts ago here that Bayern should not be relied to be betting on them as all the psychological pressure is on them and they showed tonight that they could not bear such a pressure and I also conclude that in here they completely lost any single glimpse of hope that they may had to win the Bundesliga this year,they simply have not been consistent.

Leverkussen needs just to not be self complacent and I am pretty sure with their performance they are going to have an easy win of the Bundesliga title during this year,they just need to not underestimate any remaining games until the end of the season.

Bayern Munich are running their chances and making the title accomplishment this season evaporate with every round.
Bochum is a team hovering around the relegation zone and shouldn't be a problem for a team like Bayern. It wasn't a a lucky and a surprising finish with a late goal. Bayern Munich had the time to score but they failed to do it..
Munich really can't be fully expected at this time for the bookies who are betting their money on Munich because the players' mentality is not good after experiencing three consecutive defeats, who would have thought that Munich would be defeated by a bottom team like Bochum and this is really embarrassing. I think Munich no longer has a chance to overtake Bayer Leverkusen because the difference in points between the two is getting further, namely eight points, it is not easy for Munich to catch up with that many points unless Bayer Leverkusen loses at least 3 matches and I don't think Alonso will let his team lose several times.



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February 19, 2024, 03:36:11 AM
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Damn it, I didn't expect that Bayern Munich was defeated by Bochum because Bochum is not playing well recently and Bochum didn't win in the last 3 matches but somehow today they beat Bayern Munich, I don't understand what happened to Bayern Munich? On the other hand, Leverkusen is definitely comfortable with this situation they should lead by 8 points ahead and it is certain that Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga title this season, do you think Bayern Munich still has a chance to catch up?
Two consecutive defeats put Bayern Munich in a dangerous position because the point difference with Bayer Leverkusen is getting bigger, in fact Stuttgart is currently only four points away from Bayern Munich.
Could there be changes to the top standings? Maybe, but the chance is very small because this time Bayern's competitors are a team that continues to appear stable and has gone through more than half of the season without ever losing.
The issue of changing coaches has emerged again and it is quite understandable because everything is in an unpleasant condition for Bayern, but what is surprising is because I read in the local media that one of the names being considered to replace Tuchel is Mourinho, and this is quite strange in my opinion because this is very likely to be the next mistake made by management was because Mourinho was a coach who could be said to have failed at several clubs in several seasons of his coaching career.

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February 19, 2024, 03:40:08 AM
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This result certainly makes Leverkusen lead in the Bundesliga title race with less pressure than before, their comfortable position in the standings certainly puts them in a favorable position. But it's premature to declare them as outright champions at this stage of the season. And Bayern Munich, despite the setback against Bochum, remains a formidable contender with the talent and experience to mount a comeback. Whether Bayern Munich can catch up to Leverkusen will depend on how they react in upcoming matches, Leverkusen's consistency. While Leverkusen may have a lead at the moment, there are still plenty of matches left to play, and the title race is far from over.

Yeah we can have any opinion and sometimes unexpected things can happen some people think Leverkusen have already secured the title this season and I understand the reason is because Leverkusen is still consistent with their unbeaten record if Leverkusen plays like this then there is no way for Bayern Munchen to get close. We are not ignoring Bayern Munich but the fact is that their performance is no better than before especially after 2 losses in a row, based on percentages, 90% Leverkusen have won the Bundesliga title while Bayern Munich only has 10%
Of course there is no unexpected opinion on Bayan Munich as their current performance is very disappointing. Bayern Munich's performances this season are never in contention for the title, they are losing back-to-back matches. It is true that Laverkusen has the best record this season, they are still undefeated and there is a 90% chance that they will win the title this season. But Bayern Munich is a strong team but in reality everyone will ignore them by looking at their current performance because no one expected them to perform but they are currently playing poorly.  In the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich may not be champions this season because they are still many points behind Laverkusen in second place in the points table.

Well, I'll follow you in this aspect, because I really don't know how Bayern's performance has dropped so much, in fact they should have raised it because with the arrival of Harry Kane things should be very different, I personally think that these things are They have to do a lot , they have to Change the strategy because the one they have is not giving them results, and this is not the team, it is the coach that is the problem because with that great team they have, it is so that they win everything from now on, the It's really difficult because in Bayern there are Players who I consider to be very good players from Germany, but I sincerely believe that the management is the one that is making a mistake, and it's a shame that so many players play so well and go to this place, in fact now it's more than ever that they should be first, because they have the gap left by LEWA Full  , I don't understand why uqpe.

Of course Leverkusen seems like a landslide, they are doing things in a way that everyone has won and with inventions, this is something that really interests me and of course Xabi Alonso is doing it wonderfully, if they continue So, it is very true that they will end up as Bundesliga champions and this is a championship that Bayern almost lost to Dormtmund, I think Bayern was very lucky last season.

But this time they still need a little of the luck they had because I see that they are a little bad, I know that sometimes teams go through moments of crisis , I understand that , but they must get out of it quickly, maybe problems personal relationships between players, I don't know , but there may be many things that influence there, I also think that the Bundesliga is very exciting for many who have always said that they were bored by the total dominance of a Bayern that has everything.

Former sporting director Voeller backs Alonso to stay at Leverkusen



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BERLIN, Feb 19 — Former Bayer Leverkusen sporting director Rudi Voeller said yesterday he backed coach Xabi Alonso to stay beyond the summer amid links to Liverpool and Bayern Munich.

Taking over with the club near the foot of the table last season, Alonso has supercharged Leverkusen, who are eight points clear atop the Bundesliga table and on track for a first-ever league title.

Alonso’s Leverkusen are unbeaten in 32 games in all competitions this season, with only four draws.

Voeller told Bild “I can’t imagine him going anywhere else in summer at the moment” when asked about the manager’s future.

Voeller played at Leverkusen before becoming coach and then sporting director, a role which he held for almost two decades until 2022, when he took on the same job in the German national team in 2022.

Along with being a board member and a club ambassador, Voeller is a regular at Leverkusen games and is often seen sitting alongside the club CEO Fernando Carro.

“It could happen at some point that he goes to another club, but I can’t imagine it this summer.”

Voeller said even if Alonso delivered the title to Leverkusen, “it won’t be over, it continues”.

“I don’t think there will be a big exodus. The majority will stay, you can always go one better next year.

“But first we need to focus on closing out this season.”

The 63-year-old named Liverpool, whose coach Jurgen Klopp will step down at season’s end, alongside Bayern and Real Madrid as likely destinations.

Source: https://www.malaymail.com/news/sports/2024/02/19/former-sporting-director-voeller-backs-alonso-to-stay-at-leverkusen/118740#google_vignette

Bayern Munich is now on with series of poor performance which will definitely cost them all the trophies they could have possibly had this season, they are really poor with their performance that I almost doubted if they were the team actually playing against their opponent because Monza isn't a team thst should stress Bayern Munich.

Tuchel is very much likely to loose his job by the end of this season because I doubt if Bayern Munich will be ready to keep up with this kind of performance long enough into next season because they are definitely not going to tolerate this for this long considering they have already been threats on his job all along so I'm very much in doubts if his job will survive this season. Bayern Munich lost to Monza in an embarrassing loss today, at the time when I taught they were going to get an equalizer so it doesn't look like they had a really bad game, they conceded another goal again and lost.
Three consecutive defeats in two different competitions have made Bayern Munich's position even more depressed in the Bundesliga and UCL. In the domestic league they are starting to be 8 points behind Bayer Leverkusen who are in first place, while in the UCL Bayern Munich have to play at full strength to catch the goal margin in the first leg. Bayern Munich will face tough matches in the next three matches, they will face RB Leipzig and Freiburg in the Bundesliga, after that they will face Lazio in the UCL.

Tuchel abilities will be tested in these three matches, if you look at the final results achieved at Bochum headquarters, Bayern Munich will have difficulty withstanding attacks from the opposing team due to their fragile defense. Bayern Munich is one of the teams that does not tolerate the coach's poor performance, a fate like that of Julian Nagelsmann might be experienced by Tuchel if he is unable to present a trophy at the end of the season.


Well no, he is a coach who makes a difference, however I think the world has fallen on him, I think one of Tuchel's nightmares has to do with Leverkusen , because Previously they were far Behind each Team and It didn't matter, it was very easy to reach them, but now I find it very difficult, or they are doing things well and I know that they have a clear example there, in the dark season or what happened was a warning to them that this season was going away. to face many Things and that is something that we had not realized about doing, now at this time Tuchel has everything to do things better, yes, he likes these 3 games that they have To go out to win a draw, it is like a defeat, no they can afford more Defeats.

I wonder what they are thinking about Bayern , that must be on, I don't know what could be happening to this team, in fact one of the players who was mostExpected to explode was Kane and he came up a little short, they are very good but I really don't know what you're up to.

Now taking these things into consideration, the other teams in the Bundesliga know that Bayern is demoralized, and they know that any loss or draw is fatal for them, I consider that the teams are looking to give this team the blow , they will make very difficult matches. I think Tuchel has to take these 3 games as if they were 3 finals, I don't know, but I find it difficult, but this team has what it takes, and what I like most is that for now they have the Players they wanted, there are the veto us and those who follow them, then there is no excuse , if they lose Every time they would move much further away from the objective that they are losing, unless a miracle happens, Bayern can do something, in the meantime things remain the same.

Bayern Munich bosses want to hold on to Thomas Tuchel, Hansi Flick not currently an option



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According to a report from Bild (as captured by @iMiaSanMia), the club still does not have plans to replace Tuchel. Moreover, former coach Hansi Flick is not considered a capable replacement because Uli Hoeneß — allegedly — is not fully convinced that Flick can turn things around:

    Bayern bosses still want to hold on to Thomas Tuchel and finish the season with him. In addition, there’s currently no suitable successor on the market. Uli Hoeneß is not completely convinced of Hansi Flick.

As of now, it seems like things will remain the same for next weekend’s matchup against RB Leipzig. Another loss could bury the Bavarians in the Bundesliga title race. It appears, however, that Bayern Munich’s board believes that Tuchel will help the team rise from the ashes.

Source: https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2024/2/19/24076374/bayern-munich-bosses-thomas-tuchel-hansi-flick-not-currently-an-option-muller-kane-upamecano-de-ligt

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February 19, 2024, 03:40:47 AM
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If you lose the bet against Leverkusen it is still understandable, but if you lose the bet against Bochum it is unforgivable and I think the bettors are very angry with Bayern Munich's current performance. They certainly spent quite a bit on betting on this match and from the start they were sure that this would be an easy win for Bayern Munich even though it was an away game. But the results were not as expected and Bayern Muchen was humiliated by a weak team like Bochum.

The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.

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February 19, 2024, 03:46:19 AM
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As I said some several posts ago here that Bayern should not be relied to be betting on them as all the psychological pressure is on them and they showed tonight that they could not bear such a pressure and I also conclude that in here they completely lost any single glimpse of hope that they may had to win the Bundesliga this year,they simply have not been consistent.

Leverkussen needs just to not be self complacent and I am pretty sure with their performance they are going to have an easy win of the Bundesliga title during this year,they just need to not underestimate any remaining games until the end of the season.

Bayern Munich are running their chances and making the title accomplishment this season evaporate with every round.
Bochum is a team hovering around the relegation zone and shouldn't be a problem for a team like Bayern. It wasn't a a lucky and a surprising finish with a late goal. Bayern Munich had the time to score but they failed to do it..

Lose is a lose and there's no words that can be used to excuses the result against bochum. Bochum was a garbage club and this is a very bad result from 1 billion valuation team like bayern. It's a shame for tuchel coz his club lose against the mediocre team like that. We have a bundesliga winner now. Leverkusen has been always consistently winning the game unlike bayern which was keep losing more points by showing horrible performance. The gameplay from bayern munich is even terrible to watch. It seems kane will be missing bundesliga trophy on his first season in bayern munich which is very bad. Bayern officials need to do something to save the club from the lose.
Many fans were feeling disappointed with the result. Bayern is always showing very bad result and no improvement happened to this club so far. Bayern keeps to bottling it soon. I think that kane's future is still clear if he will be trophyless on bayern,
His performance has been declining a lot compared to the last season. Im only wondering what's the point to buy him from other club like totenham? He is starting to play so badly in this game.

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February 19, 2024, 04:00:18 AM
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Bayern Munich have a wrong coach this season, many people were judging Tuchel based on his past successes and records, and many people were thinking that Chelsea made a wrong decision as they sack him but it has appeared as the right decision even though they are yet to get good coach that will lead the team to success.
Bayern need another coach next season because they have individual players that can lead team to glory, but because his poor selection, they couldn’t even get consistency in the Bundesliga talk more of Champions League, but his team deserve to be favorites for Champions League, but due to his poor selection and his old age coaching experience, they are not favorites because Tuchel cannot lead them to the right path.

Bayern Leverkusen is now eight points clear, and are yet to be beaten in the Bundesliga competition. They remain the only team in the European top leagues that are still unbeaten in their League, Alonso might go the same as Arsenal Wenger to win the League unbeaten.
Every coach definitely has his own moments when it comes to bringing a club into competition and if you look at Jose Mourinho when he was still at Real Madrid, it is not much different from the conditions he is currently experiencing with Tuchel. Even though Jose Mourinho's achievements are much better than Tuchel because Jose Mourinho has experienced the glory of becoming a very successful coach. Maybe Tuchel doesn't have the same vision as the style of players he has so it will be quite difficult to combine players and maybe people see Tuchel doesn't have the ability because he lost to Leverkusen, Lazio and Bochum in the previous three matches

The opportunity to win the Bundesliga title may be difficult because Leverkusen looks so strong now, especially if you look at Bayern Munich's chances in the Champions League. A new coach will be a necessity for Bayern Munich next season and I agree that Tuchel is not the right person to manage Bayern Munich.

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February 19, 2024, 04:38:21 AM
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Damn it, I didn't expect that Bayern Munich was defeated by Bochum because Bochum is not playing well recently and Bochum didn't win in the last 3 matches but somehow today they beat Bayern Munich, I don't understand what happened to Bayern Munich? On the other hand, Leverkusen is definitely comfortable with this situation they should lead by 8 points ahead and it is certain that Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga title this season, do you think Bayern Munich still has a chance to catch up?
Two consecutive defeats put Bayern Munich in a dangerous position because the point difference with Bayer Leverkusen is getting bigger, in fact Stuttgart is currently only four points away from Bayern Munich.
Could there be changes to the top standings? Maybe, but the chance is very small because this time Bayern's competitors are a team that continues to appear stable and has gone through more than half of the season without ever losing.
The issue of changing coaches has emerged again and it is quite understandable because everything is in an unpleasant condition for Bayern, but what is surprising is because I read in the local media that one of the names being considered to replace Tuchel is Mourinho, and this is quite strange in my opinion because this is very likely to be the next mistake made by management was because Mourinho was a coach who could be said to have failed at several clubs in several seasons of his coaching career.
Changes in the standings could happen but that only applies to Bayern Munich and Stuttgart which clearly have fairly close point difference, for Bayern Munich because now has difference of 8 points and it will take longer if they want to surpass it Leverkusen.
Stuttgart itself appeared quite impressive by trying to win in every match, while Bayern Munich seemed like they would experience pressure that would cause their performance to decline.
Initially I thought that Bayern Munich would be able to become competitor and also be the team that prevented Leverkusen from winning the title, but because of several defeats that occurred, it was clear that Bayern Munich would not be able to do it.
Now Leverkusen is much safer and is not too worried about Bayern Munich who could shift their position as the top of the standings, Leverkusen will be able to maintain first position with full confidence and self-confidence to become champions.
Xabi is very instrumental in this achievement and of course he is coach who really cannot be underestimated even though he is still young, I think Xabi will be able to bring Leverkusen to compete well in the UCL competition next season.

Due to this setback, Tuchel is threatened with being replaced by another coach, but regarding Mourinho who will become Bayern Munich coach, this is still just rumor and there is no definite clarity.

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February 19, 2024, 06:21:48 AM
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Changes in the standings could happen but that only applies to Bayern Munich and Stuttgart which clearly have fairly close point difference, for Bayern Munich because now has difference of 8 points and it will take longer if they want to surpass it Leverkusen.
Stuttgart itself appeared quite impressive by trying to win in every match, while Bayern Munich seemed like they would experience pressure that would cause their performance to decline.
Initially I thought that Bayern Munich would be able to become competitor and also be the team that prevented Leverkusen from winning the title, but because of several defeats that occurred, it was clear that Bayern Munich would not be able to do it.
Now Leverkusen is much safer and is not too worried about Bayern Munich who could shift their position as the top of the standings, Leverkusen will be able to maintain first position with full confidence and self-confidence to become champions.
Xabi is very instrumental in this achievement and of course he is coach who really cannot be underestimated even though he is still young, I think Xabi will be able to bring Leverkusen to compete well in the UCL competition next season.

Due to this setback, Tuchel is threatened with being replaced by another coach, but regarding Mourinho who will become Bayern Munich coach, this is still just rumor and there is no definite clarity.
I think this season's title race is over and Bayern Munich has failed to defend its Bundesliga title.
Regarding the competition for position 2, 3 or 4, I think Bayern Munich will not think about that anymore, now their mentality and self-confidence has decreased quite a bit.
And I regret that the impact of their decline will continue into the Champions League.

For what is happening now, Tuchel is the one who is most to blame, apart from Leverkusen who are very strong this season, but Bayern's inability to maintain consistency means they are now even further behind Leverkusen.
And personally I thought whether this was because of Kane's curse of never winning a title like at Tottenham before.

There are rumors that there will be a change of coach. I don't think Bayern's management will rush into making this decision because it will actually make the team worse off.

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February 19, 2024, 06:36:57 AM
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If you lose the bet against Leverkusen it is still understandable, but if you lose the bet against Bochum it is unforgivable and I think the bettors are very angry with Bayern Munich's current performance. They certainly spent quite a bit on betting on this match and from the start they were sure that this would be an easy win for Bayern Munich even though it was an away game. But the results were not as expected and Bayern Muchen was humiliated by a weak team like Bochum.

The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.
Quite annoying for people who bet on Bayern Munich in this match, yes they ruined the bet by losing against a team that is actually not too strong like Bochum.
This season I see a different Bayern Munich, they are not like the previous season which was very strong, this season they made a lot of mistakes and that made them lose. At the same time Leverkusen can perform well throughout this season and that makes them above Bayern Munich with a distance of 8 points. Leverkusen's chances of becoming champions are getting bigger.


The opportunity to win the Bundesliga title may be difficult because Leverkusen looks so strong now, especially if you look at Bayern Munich's chances in the Champions League. A new coach will be a necessity for Bayern Munich next season and I agree that Tuchel is not the right person to manage Bayern Munich.
It's true that their chances of becoming champions will be more difficult after they lost again this week. Leverkusen are very strong and very difficult for other teams to beat.
Talking about them in the Champions League, I doubt they'll be able to turn things around after their 1-0 first-leg loss to Lazio. Although they will be playing at home, but with their situation like this, that doubt will arise. But I still give them a pretty big chance to be able to turn things around in the second leg later.

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February 19, 2024, 06:52:13 AM
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The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.
With 2 consecutive defeats this is a problem that will be very difficult for Tuchel because after all we must realize that performance affects the future.

If we are honest, the management of Bayern should not be able to sit back because after all this affects the hegemony they have built and now Tuchel may not be able to maintain it even with good player conditions.
Bayern are not short of talented players at the moment, it's just that the schemes carried out and the chemistry built are still very lacking between players and coaches, making Bayern's condition worse again and again.
Their current difference is 8 points and it will certainly be very difficult to catch up with this considerable gap unless there is a change in performance from Leverkusen and they lose 3 matches and Bayern win in a row so that competition can still happen but expecting that certainly requires strong luck.

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February 19, 2024, 06:58:01 AM
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Changes in the standings could happen but that only applies to Bayern Munich and Stuttgart which clearly have fairly close point difference, for Bayern Munich because now has difference of 8 points and it will take longer if they want to surpass it Leverkusen.
Stuttgart itself appeared quite impressive by trying to win in every match, while Bayern Munich seemed like they would experience pressure that would cause their performance to decline.
Initially I thought that Bayern Munich would be able to become competitor and also be the team that prevented Leverkusen from winning the title, but because of several defeats that occurred, it was clear that Bayern Munich would not be able to do it.
Now Leverkusen is much safer and is not too worried about Bayern Munich who could shift their position as the top of the standings, Leverkusen will be able to maintain first position with full confidence and self-confidence to become champions.
Xabi is very instrumental in this achievement and of course he is coach who really cannot be underestimated even though he is still young, I think Xabi will be able to bring Leverkusen to compete well in the UCL competition next season.

I think this season's title race is over and Bayern Munich has failed to defend its Bundesliga title.
Regarding the competition for position 2, 3 or 4, I think Bayern Munich will not think about that anymore, now their mentality and self-confidence has decreased quite a bit.
And I regret that the impact of their decline will continue into the Champions League.

For what is happening now, Tuchel is the one who is most to blame, apart from Leverkusen who are very strong this season, but Bayern's inability to maintain consistency means they are now even further behind Leverkusen.
And personally I thought whether this was because of Kane's curse of never winning a title like at Tottenham before.

The 2-3 defeat to Bochum is causing Bayern Munich to face the risk of nothing this season. Bayern lost to Bochum for the first time in 2 years and should "raise the white flag" in the championship race with Leverkusen. At the same time, it also made Coach Thomas Tuchel's chair shake harder than ever. Bayern is no longer itself. Since the beginning of the season, the home team at Allianz Stadium has suffered 7 defeats in all matches, and this is the 11th defeat under Thomas Tuchel. These consecutive failures are causing Bayern Munich to face the risk of going empty-handed for the first time in 12 years. With only 12 rounds left in the season, it will be difficult for them to overcome the booming Leverkusen with talented coach Xabi Alonso.

Due to this setback, Tuchel is threatened with being replaced by another coach, but regarding Mourinho who will become Bayern Munich coach, this is still just rumor and there is no definite clarity.
There are rumors that there will be a change of coach. I don't think Bayern's management will rush into making this decision because it will actually make the team worse off.
Until now, Thomas Tuchel's Bayern Munich has wholly failed. They play football with no tactical identity and lack of unity. I think the Bayern Munich board of directors should immediately consider replacing coach Thomas Tuchel. But if I wait patiently, I still like the name Jürgen Klopp more than Mourinho.


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February 19, 2024, 07:23:35 AM
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The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.

It was a truly surprising defeat. I also bet on Munich winning last night. I think very few people are betting on Bochum winning. In fact it seems almost non-existent. The results of this match were truly beyond expectations. Munich actually dominated the match with 10 shots on target and 70% ball possession. This result is very profitable for Leverkusen because the difference of 8 points means that Leverkusen must suffer 3 defeats where Munich won all the matches to shift Leverkusen. It looks like Leverkusen is the second team this season to have locked up the title after previously Inter Milan had locked it up first.

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February 19, 2024, 07:31:04 AM
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Initially I considered Bayern Munich to be one of the favorite clubs that could compete for the Champions League title this season, but after they showed something that was not promising, I doubted them. You're right, Bayern Munich still have a chance to beat Lazio in the second leg, but if they make it out of the round of 16, I doubt they'll be able to go any further in the Chmpions League this season. The reason is that the opponents they will face in the next round must be stronger than the opponents they faced in the round of 16.
If Tuchel eventually leaves Bayern Munich, I hope Bayern Munich can consider very well who they will appoint to be the previous coach. Don't let the same mistake repeat itself when they made a decision that I think was hasty when they fired Nagelsmann at the end of last season.
Of course, there is still a chance for Bayern Munich to win the second leg, however, with Bayern Munich's performance having declined greatly, many people are doubting them.
I don't understand what is happening with the Bayern Munich team at the moment, even though they have no problems with their mainstay players, but it seems as if the Bayern Munich team has lost enthusiasm with the presence of Leverkusen as their strong competitor for the Bundesliga title and it is even possible that Bayern Munich will fail to defend it. The title is very big and it affects the mentality and self-confidence of the team.
Once again they had to accept defeat to Bochum in the Bundesliga this week, 3-2 was the final result of the match which made Bochum come out as winners. One thing that concerns me lately lies in the declining defense area, that's what makes them have to admit defeat to Bochum in this match. You're right, it looks like their confidence has dropped after seeing Leverkusen's outstanding performance this season and in the end they are likely to give up the title of defending champions for many years in this Bundesliga. How could they not, their defeat this week has put them even further away from Leverkusen.
The presence of Leverkusen who have performed well this season gives color to the competition in the Bundesliga, we no longer only see Bayern Munich freely perched at the top of the standings, now we see how they are trying hard to maintain their chances in the Bundesliga. I wonder how the Bundesliga will end this season.

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February 19, 2024, 07:33:02 AM
Last edit: February 19, 2024, 12:03:10 PM by len01
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If you lose the bet against Leverkusen it is still understandable, but if you lose the bet against Bochum it is unforgivable and I think the bettors are very angry with Bayern Munich's current performance. They certainly spent quite a bit on betting on this match and from the start they were sure that this would be an easy win for Bayern Munich even though it was an away game. But the results were not as expected and Bayern Muchen was humiliated by a weak team like Bochum.

The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.
damn! I was one of those who bet on this match and I thought there would be another surprise from Bayern Munich and the surprise was a draw so I bet for a double chance but it was very disappointing that Munich had turned its team in a negative direction and even its reputation was threatened after losing to this weak team.  Cry
Is this a curse from Kane?
at first I never believed in curses like what other people out there said, but after seeing Bayern Munich performance, it made me think badly and have very negative assumptions, whereas Tuchel as a coach, I saw that he was really trying to provide guidance from the side of the field so that it could end in a draw much better but unfortunately the violation of giving a red card made the Munich players mentally decline.

I also believe what you say, after a bad performance like this, it still the coach who will be blamed and given bad criticism, while Tuchel actually not wrong because he has provided the right strategy and we need to look at the other side before blaming Tuchel for being a very good Munich player it clear that there has been a decline in productivity, even Kane as a mainstay player has also experienced the same thing.
I'm really curious about the real problem that makes the Munich players seem to lack enthusiasm.
do you know what problem made Bayern Munich lose its consistency?

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February 19, 2024, 07:49:49 AM
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If you lose the bet against Leverkusen it is still understandable, but if you lose the bet against Bochum it is unforgivable and I think the bettors are very angry with Bayern Munich's current performance. They certainly spent quite a bit on betting on this match and from the start they were sure that this would be an easy win for Bayern Munich even though it was an away game. But the results were not as expected and Bayern Muchen was humiliated by a weak team like Bochum.

The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.

I bet that a lot of multi-bets burned out yesterday because few people could believe that Bayern would lose for the third time in a row and added this outcome as “reliable” to their multi-bets  Grin
By the way, Kane broke Haaland's record by reaching 25 goals scored in 23 games (Haaland needed 25 games), but the celebration turned out to be sad  Grin

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February 19, 2024, 07:51:40 AM
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Until now, Thomas Tuchel's Bayern Munich has wholly failed. They play football with no tactical identity and lack of unity. I think the Bayern Munich board of directors should immediately consider replacing coach Thomas Tuchel. But if I wait patiently, I still like the name Jürgen Klopp more than Mourinho.
Tuchel will have to pay expensive cost for latest defeats of Bayern Munich in both Bundesliga and Champions League. His position is on the broken verge and his time in Bayern Munich is counting down.

Klopp announced his departure from Liverpool at the season ending and also will take 1-year break. Bayern Munich need a new coach as soon as possible and they will not be able to waste one more season by waiting Klopp. Jose Mourinho is a good choice for them as he is free now after was sacked by AS Roma weeks ago. Jose is also very experienced in Champions League where Bayern Munich must beat Lazio in a next match. If Bayern Munich sack Tuchel and hire a new coach, I believe Jose will be one of first candidates to be chosen.

Is this a curse from Kane?
at first I never believed in curses like what other people out there said, but after seeing Bayern Munich performance, it made me think badly and have very negative assumptions, whereas Tuchel as a coach, I saw that he was really trying to provide guidance from the side of the field so that it could end in a draw much better but unfortunately the violation of giving a red card made the Munich players mentally decline.
Too soon to say so as it is his first season for Bayern Munich and he still has time to win titles with Bayern. In the match with Bochum, if Kane did not waste a great opportunity to make 2 - 0 for Bayern, the match will go with a very different direction and Bochum can be destroyed by Bayern. Also Upamecao unluckily with a red card that turns the match to Bochum side.

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February 19, 2024, 07:54:06 AM
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Lose is a lose and there's no words that can be used to excuses the result against bochum. Bochum was a garbage club and this is a very bad result from 1 billion valuation team like bayern. It's a shame for tuchel coz his club lose against the mediocre team like that. We have a bundesliga winner now. Leverkusen has been always consistently winning the game unlike bayern which was keep losing more points by showing horrible performance. The gameplay from bayern munich is even terrible to watch. It seems kane will be missing bundesliga trophy on his first season in bayern munich which is very bad. Bayern officials need to do something to save the club from the lose.
Many fans were feeling disappointed with the result. Bayern is always showing very bad result and no improvement happened to this club so far. Bayern keeps to bottling it soon. I think that kane's future is still clear if he will be trophyless on bayern,
His performance has been declining a lot compared to the last season. Im only wondering what's the point to buy him from other club like totenham? He is starting to play so badly in this game.
The difference is getting bigger and Bayern Munich again wasted the opportunity to get 3 points from this match. Losing to a bottom club raises a big question mark, is it true that what many people say regarding Harry Kane curse applies to Bayern Munich? Leverkusen no longer needs to worry that now they have almost 90% of the Bundesliga trophy locked in and they only need to continue to distance themselves from Bayern Munich. All of Xabi Alonso hard work will bear fruit this season.

Bayern Munich does not suit Tuchel coaching, since Nagelssmann departure, we know that Bayern Munich has lost its playing characteristics. Even though Kane first arrival seemed reassuring, it was not enough to show that the Bundesliga was easy for him to control. If Bayern Munich fails to win a trophy this season, it means that Tuchel has the potential to be fired.

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February 19, 2024, 08:21:48 AM
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The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.

It was a truly surprising defeat. I also bet on Munich winning last night. I think very few people are betting on Bochum winning. In fact it seems almost non-existent. The results of this match were truly beyond expectations. Munich actually dominated the match with 10 shots on target and 70% ball possession. This result is very profitable for Leverkusen because the difference of 8 points means that Leverkusen must suffer 3 defeats where Munich won all the matches to shift Leverkusen. It looks like Leverkusen is the second team this season to have locked up the title after previously Inter Milan had locked it up first.
Bayern Munich had to face a big problem by losing 3 points. The league is about to end now and they should not tolerate even the slightest defeat. Bochum took 3 points and paved the way for Leverkusen. Leverkusen has now charted the route for the championship and they want to win the remaining matches and enter next year as Bundesliga champions. I believe they will achieve this now.

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February 19, 2024, 08:35:42 AM
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It was a truly surprising defeat. I also bet on Munich winning last night. I think very few people are betting on Bochum winning. In fact it seems almost non-existent. The results of this match were truly beyond expectations. Munich actually dominated the match with 10 shots on target and 70% ball possession. This result is very profitable for Leverkusen because the difference of 8 points means that Leverkusen must suffer 3 defeats where Munich won all the matches to shift Leverkusen. It looks like Leverkusen is the second team this season to have locked up the title after previously Inter Milan had locked it up first.
The profitability of this result for Leverkusen can be overly emphasized because a whole lot of pressure will be dropped and they will no longer have to play as if someone is behind them chasing them to win or draw but now play with good confidence because they know they will be able to win the trophy as they are at a better chance.

Bayern Munich is now looking so weak even in their performance and their form, i'v wondered what is the reason that have developed this form of weakness in recent times meanwhile they were supposed to be stronger because it's past mid season and every game at this point counts a whole lot for each of the team. I'm hopeful Munich will definitely get back infom and make sure to finish well by the end of the season but then it's very likely they will not be able to compete for the title this season again.

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February 19, 2024, 08:36:19 AM
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The match ended with a score of 3-2 and this was like a big match and Bayern Munich did not reflect at all as a team in the title race. Upamecano again harmed Bayern Munich by getting a red card even though previously in the Champions League against Lazio he also got a red card. Two red cards in different competitions were clearly very detrimental for Upamecano. Now Tuchel is in the spotlight again because the gap has increased to 8 points from Leverkusen and many parties have cornered him after the match ended.

Frankly speaking, this is embarrassing for Bayern Munich. Having a two defeat in a row is very uncommon of Bayern Munich that we know in those days. From my observation, it seems the players aren't playing for the badge again. Perhaps, they are also interested to get rid of Tuchel. From the beginning, I perceived the decision to hire Tuchel as a wrong one because having seen what happened during his reign at Chelsea, one will know that he's not suitable for big clubs but it seems Bayern doesn't assess how the couch performed in his previous club as long as he's a German nationality.

He almost relegated a certain club but I don't know what potential that Bayern saw in him to hired him. There's no longer joy in watching Bayern's games anymore. I feel sorry for Kane because he came to Bayern at the wrong time and met an average couch in the club but people are thinking he brought his bad luck from Tottenham.

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