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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition.
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December 31, 2015, 02:17:59 AM |
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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition. How do I permanently fix this issue? The other S7 of the same batch is not behaving this way. Will fan replacement fix this issue?
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December 31, 2015, 02:21:24 AM |
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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition. How do I permanently fix this issue? The other S7 of the same batch is not behaving this way. Will fan replacement fix this issue? Dunno ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Let me know if you find out? Has anyone looked at the fan RPM implementation on the controller board -- is it amenable to tuning front vs. rear?
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December 31, 2015, 02:33:21 AM Last edit: December 31, 2015, 03:05:03 AM by E |
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The 2000w PSU is not platinum, in fact it's silver but pretty close to gold. It's younger and stronger 2500w brother is gold rated, though. The 2880w beast is not actually platinum either, it is solidly in silver territory. I measured about 87% efficiency. Everyone confuses it with it's younger, slightly more buff 2980w brother the 39Y7414 is platinum, and much more expensive on ebay. We're all buying the 39Y 7349 which has no official efficiency numbers anywhere that I can find as it's too old to have been put through the 80+ testing program. My own testing though, puts it at about 87% efficiency at 50% load. Just curious, how did you measure efficiency? And did you compare it against a known 80+ tested PSU to verify your methods? Simply compared AC input to DC output, that's all it takes. I've also tested 3 different server PSUs that have been 80+ tested. One of them was rated 94.5% @ 50% load (PFE1100), I read 94.1% consistently, for example. That difference can be due to my equipment VS their testing equipment, the PSU could be a little tired, or likely both. My testing mythology is sound, but I would of course appreciate someone backing up the numbers I have posted about the 2880W-er.Absolutely right -- the 2880W are not 80 Plus Platinum, and in fact I'm not aware of any PlugLoad testing results published for either 2880W model number (39Y7349 and 39Y7408; FRUs 39Y7350/39Y7364 and 39Y7409). The 2980s, on the other hand, have the little 80Plus Platinum sticker right on top and a cute "High Efficiency" label on the handle/lock: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvAKnArxm.jpg&t=665&c=xmZ06bwyoL2MqQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6mwAI71m.jpg&t=665&c=Wr7xiVXtbYtODA) And man, the interior of those things... the board design makes me feel all tingly and I'm not ashamed to admit it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) We can make a guess about the 2880 efficiency vs. 2980 by taking the ratio of the rated outputs, since those are limited by thermal envelope. Then if the 2980 is ~92-93% the 2880 should be ~89-90%? I'll check shortly. edit: Also of note is that the PlugLoad test of the 2980W unit doesn't include the fan draw (50W at full load) in the consumption figures, so the effective efficiency with cooling will be somewhat reduced.
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December 31, 2015, 03:00:49 AM |
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Yeah... Thread title needs to be updated. S7 is no longer 4.86TH/s or 0.25J/GH. Should read: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.73TH/s, 0.30J/GHSince bitcointalk is not accessible from mainland China due to the GFW, could a mod update the title? I'm sure bitmain would in the pursuit of honesty, but they simply can't due to circumstances. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The last two I bought arrived with 1 dead board each. Maybe the title should read 3.1TH/s, 0.3J/GH? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Heh, sounds about right. My B8 had a board die within a week, so also running at ~3.1TH/s right now. That's pretty bad. Whats the delay and protocol here? You send back the black to Bitmain at your costs, then receive a blade within what delay? And then do you get compensated? Normally there is not compensation. You talk to them they say if ok to disassemble. You cant even really open it without permission anymore, so have to talk to support. I would guess he sends back to bitmain, then send working after. And most likely no compensation but I could be wrong. My batch 8 is still working strong even in the cold. So far so good on mine as far as running.
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December 31, 2015, 05:18:11 AM |
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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition. How do I permanently fix this issue? The other S7 of the same batch is not behaving this way. Will fan replacement fix this issue? Dunno ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Let me know if you find out? Has anyone looked at the fan RPM implementation on the controller board -- is it amenable to tuning front vs. rear? I have the same problem, the sound is unberable, and goes through two walls. One s7 is ok the other outputs that wistle sound
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December 31, 2015, 10:34:01 AM |
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And Bitmain website down again, or working only partially (is not possible to finish order) :-(
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December 31, 2015, 10:38:41 AM |
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any fan tweaks, upgrades, etc? besides insulation like Phil did ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) using fans @ 40 to 50% and i want to lower the noise even more is the controller ok with a reading of ~1000rpm?
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December 31, 2015, 01:57:52 PM |
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Tupsu? that sneaky little.... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I sold him (just one) for pretty cheap, I figured batch 8 was expensive enough as it is, might as well give a miner a break. now he resells them. well then. lesson learned. next time I get a coupon for 150$ I will sell it for 149$.
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December 31, 2015, 02:05:16 PM |
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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition. How do I permanently fix this issue? The other S7 of the same batch is not behaving this way. Will fan replacement fix this issue? Dunno ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Let me know if you find out? Has anyone looked at the fan RPM implementation on the controller board -- is it amenable to tuning front vs. rear? I have the same problem, the sound is unberable, and goes through two walls. One s7 is ok the other outputs that wistle sound I believe the accepted solution for that has been a piece of tape on the intake screen. I have done it myself on two units.
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December 31, 2015, 02:53:51 PM |
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any fan tweaks, upgrades, etc? besides insulation like Phil did ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) using fans @ 40 to 50% and i want to lower the noise even more is the controller ok with a reading of ~1000rpm? Is that 1000 RPM on one fan or both fans? I'm asking this because one of them could be out. Which means one of them could be fine while the defective one is spinning the other from it's pressure.
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December 31, 2015, 03:32:21 PM |
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Tupsu? that sneaky little.... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I sold him (just one) for pretty cheap, I figured batch 8 was expensive enough as it is, might as well give a miner a break. now he resells them. well then. lesson learned. next time I get a coupon for 150$ I will sell it for 149$. Holy cow, how did that guy get so many coupons? That's a ton of them!
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December 31, 2015, 03:35:20 PM |
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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition. How do I permanently fix this issue? The other S7 of the same batch is not behaving this way. Will fan replacement fix this issue? Dunno ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Let me know if you find out? Has anyone looked at the fan RPM implementation on the controller board -- is it amenable to tuning front vs. rear? I have the same problem, the sound is unberable, and goes through two walls. One s7 is ok the other outputs that wistle sound I believe the accepted solution for that has been a piece of tape on the intake screen. I have done it myself on two units. Shouldn't BitMain replace for our FANs to fix the issue? We shouldn't have to duct tape or alter our devices to fix a defect when it's within warranty. What is the usual turn around time for BitMain support? I have a ticket open with them for 2days and haven't heard back.
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December 31, 2015, 04:08:52 PM |
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Yeah... Thread title needs to be updated. S7 is no longer 4.86TH/s or 0.25J/GH. Should read: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.73TH/s, 0.30J/GHSince bitcointalk is not accessible from mainland China due to the GFW, could a mod update the title? I'm sure bitmain would in the pursuit of honesty, but they simply can't due to circumstances. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The last two I bought arrived with 1 dead board each. Maybe the title should read 3.1TH/s, 0.3J/GH? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Heh, sounds about right. My B8 had a board die within a week, so also running at ~3.1TH/s right now. That's pretty bad. Whats the delay and protocol here? You send back the black to Bitmain at your costs, then receive a blade within what delay? And then do you get compensated? Normally there is not compensation. You talk to them they say if ok to disassemble. You cant even really open it without permission anymore, so have to talk to support. I would guess he sends back to bitmain, then send working after. And most likely no compensation but I could be wrong. My batch 8 is still working strong even in the cold. So far so good on mine as far as running. I still have 2 x S7 batch 5 hashboards with Bitmain Support. I opened a ticket and they told me to send the hashboards back. I did so, and they received them 2.5 weeks ago according to UPS tracking. I've sent in 3 support emails inquiring about the status and they haven't responded. So 3 weeks total since I spent $100 to ship them for repair/replacement and nothing. Looks like I might have a batch 8 hashboard out now. It's at remote location so I'll have to power cycle PSU before knowing fully. Pray the board will come back up after power-cycle. Don't seem to be getting any loving from Bitmain.
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December 31, 2015, 04:31:54 PM |
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Glad I didn't buy any more s7s. Too many problems and customer service doesn't care.
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December 31, 2015, 05:01:02 PM |
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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition. How do I permanently fix this issue? The other S7 of the same batch is not behaving this way. Will fan replacement fix this issue? Dunno ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Let me know if you find out? Has anyone looked at the fan RPM implementation on the controller board -- is it amenable to tuning front vs. rear? I have the same problem, the sound is unberable, and goes through two walls. One s7 is ok the other outputs that wistle sound I believe the accepted solution for that has been a piece of tape on the intake screen. I have done it myself on two units. Shouldn't BitMain replace for our FANs to fix the issue? We shouldn't have to duct tape or alter our devices to fix a defect when it's within warranty. What is the usual turn around time for BitMain support? I have a ticket open with them for 2days and haven't heard back. The sound is natural to an with such high rpm and airflow, dissipating 1200W+ in a short tube. The SP20 was equally loud, almost worst at full speeds, most people had to run it <900W if they wanted the fans to spin at a LESS-loud speed. same for gear like the S5, SP10/SP3x With the software tweak to get fans <20%, noise is actually quite bearable. I have them machine fed 0C outside air, so can keep the volume down without much issue. 20% fan @ 4.7TH with 62-67C temperatures (board 3 is hottest?). noise is as good as the S3 17% fan @ 4.5TH. noise is totally acceptable to be in the main room 15% fan @ 4.3TH. quiet. similar to a game console or desktop computer that has loud(ish) fans
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December 31, 2015, 10:03:41 PM |
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Hi All, Anyone have this issue where their S7 makes a really loud screeching sound from the FANs but if you place a small cardboard piece to funnel air differently then it would sound like other S7 where it's just rushed Air sound. Please see image below. I'm opening a support ticket as the sound is incredibly loud and annoying and over power the noise created by 3 other system by itself. https://i.imgur.com/ibjVgBY.jpgYes - this is a very effective trick at higher RPM. I've found an obstruction placed at the right spot in past the outlet fan works too, and should be better for cooling uniformity. I believe that this is due to the outlet fan running too unburdened/too low pressure delta in the bitmain design. I think the inlet fan should probably be run at lower RPM than the outlet; the cardboard trick changes things just enough to bring both fans back into a loaded condition. How do I permanently fix this issue? The other S7 of the same batch is not behaving this way. Will fan replacement fix this issue? Dunno ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Let me know if you find out? Has anyone looked at the fan RPM implementation on the controller board -- is it amenable to tuning front vs. rear? I have the same problem, the sound is unberable, and goes through two walls. One s7 is ok the other outputs that wistle sound I believe the accepted solution for that has been a piece of tape on the intake screen. I have done it myself on two units. Shouldn't BitMain replace for our FANs to fix the issue? We shouldn't have to duct tape or alter our devices to fix a defect when it's within warranty. What is the usual turn around time for BitMain support? I have a ticket open with them for 2days and haven't heard back. The sound is natural to an with such high rpm and airflow, dissipating 1200W+ in a short tube. The SP20 was equally loud, almost worst at full speeds, most people had to run it <900W if they wanted the fans to spin at a LESS-loud speed. same for gear like the S5, SP10/SP3x With the software tweak to get fans <20%, noise is actually quite bearable. I have them machine fed 0C outside air, so can keep the volume down without much issue. 20% fan @ 4.7TH with 62-67C temperatures (board 3 is hottest?). noise is as good as the S3 17% fan @ 4.5TH. noise is totally acceptable to be in the main room 15% fan @ 4.3TH. quiet. similar to a game console or desktop computer that has loud(ish) fans For that fan noise, sometimes just rotating the fan 90 degrees helps. I've also bought foam sheets (like for what kids play with) and put the foam sheet between the jet blaster and mining rig. All my miners are also sitting on foam sheets which cuts down on small vibrations. Foam sheets are like duct tape now. And you can usually get them at the dollar store, so they are cheap. Happy New Year!
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December 31, 2015, 10:18:07 PM |
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Can I see a picture of your Foam setup? Also the this screeching sound is not normal as the other S7s are not like this one. I see other people having same issues and the noise goes way beyond the garage door due to the high pitch vs 2 other S7 which can't be heard thru my entrance door which is a strong fire resistant door. I will see what support says. Not sure if it's due to New Year but it's been almost 2 days with no response, they were faster on the response when I was short $18 for my order due to fees just 2 days ago. What's everyone's experience on the turn around time for response? Is this normal?
This is brand new and within Warranty period, they should fix it. I don't think that's asking too much. If we keep giving in on trying to fix everything or come up with Mickey Mouse solutions, we will continue getting inferior products and services.
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December 31, 2015, 10:27:02 PM |
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Get these and put two on top (tape them together) so they overhang and also put two on the side of the wall if you have it facing sideways. It helps.
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