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January 01, 2022, 02:40:48 PM
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Hi all
I will be creating a whatsapp group for everyone who visits this forum to capture their details.
It will make it easier to communicate with everyone who lost crypto on cryptsy.

Please fill your details in the form below

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe5E5S6SocxXZrOz0fibNWoeK_brGOC-DG8073LG8EL5pwOFA/viewform?usp=sf_link
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January 25, 2022, 04:47:44 PM
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Is there really possibility to get money back. I maid claim, but they answered:
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"We have no record of your data Mr. Vernon stole not only your money but your data you had to submit a claim with supporting evidence that is sufficient in order to receive payment."
Do anyone have same problem? I don't have a time to look whole this huge thread.
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January 25, 2022, 06:03:31 PM
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Hi all
I will be creating a whatsapp group for everyone who visits this forum to capture their details.
It will make it easier to communicate with everyone who lost crypto on cryptsy.

Please fill your details in the form below

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Who you are?
you asking for very personal information, why should someone believe in you?
What is the purpose of this group?
do you have any solution to get back the lost money? Or you will just give false hope to scammed people?

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January 28, 2022, 06:59:24 AM
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Hi all
I will be creating a whatsapp group for everyone who visits this forum to capture their details.
It will make it easier to communicate with everyone who lost crypto on cryptsy.

Please fill your details in the form below

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Who you are?
you asking for very personal information, why should someone believe in you?
What is the purpose of this group?
do you have any solution to get back the lost money? Or you will just give false hope to scammed people?

Who you are?

This is my Linkedin id
https://in.linkedin.com/in/mehulmishra
TL;DR I graduated from ISB (pretty much the best business school in India) worked at top-tier consulting firms
and now work for one of the largest VC's in India. Because of my early work in Venture capital I was exposed to crypto
before most people

As a background I lost about 3.3 million dogecoins in the cryptsy hack


why should someone believe in you?

You don't need to submit any information that you don't want to. The phone number is the
most important part of the form because that's the only way I can add you to the WhatsApp group.

There is nothing to believe here, I am not selling anything. I would personally much rather someone like
Silver law create the group but I don't think they have any interest in doing so.


What is the purpose of this group?

The primary purpose of the group is to facilitate better communication among everyone who has
lost money on Cryptsy

I wanted to create an alternative database outside of one that exists with Silver Law in case
at some point all the crypto is recoverable

We could also have a discussion of strategies of money recovery but it is a lot
easier to do so if we are not anonymous voices on the internet working in silos.

do you have any solution to get back the lost money? Or you will just give false hope to scammed people?
I do have some strategies in mind. They are long shots ~5% chance of working. But since the alternative here
is no strategies we may as well listen to mine. If anyone else has better strategies I am absolutely open to that as well.
 
The way I see it , a connected group where everyone knows who everyone is has a far better chance of
money recovery than anonymous people on the internet. 
I am posting about the group on reddit as well so that people from there can join in as well

Happy to answer any more questions.

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February 03, 2022, 12:01:19 PM
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https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/01/27/doj-indicts-cryptsy-exchange-founder-for-stealing-1m-in-crypto/

https://coingeek.com/florida-cryptsy-exchange-founder-indicted-over-allegedly-stealing-1m-and-destroying-evidence/

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-paul-vernon-stole-millions-cryptocurrency-13799886

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdfl/pr/ceo-major-online-cryptocurrency-exchange-company-indicted-defrauding-company-s

In general:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cryptsy&client=ubuntu&hs=DkJ&channel=fs&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:m&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0noLouuP1AhXM6aQKHU_mBQ04ChCnBXoECAEQHQ&biw=1976&bih=1040&dpr=1

This contradicts some arguments that some people stated here

A person who flees and destroy databases without taking any responsability, I think it's not a good person and he is hiding the truth....

If he wants to prove his innocence he should talk with feds and authorities and give his version of the facts
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February 09, 2022, 06:15:48 PM
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Bitfinex got recover  Grin
https://youtu.be/9U9NiDy6NXc
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February 25, 2022, 10:07:01 PM
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Who destroyed the database? Big Vern or James D sallah who was responsible for the latter, the database was "destroyed" 3 months after Cryptsy ended, be honest any hosting company keeps backups of the databases and it is absolutely impossible that Big Vern could have destroyed the database without the consent of James D Sallah, even though he had full control of it, this guy is a crook just read this article to understand it https://www.law360.com/articles/1383609/receiver-s-rare-step-gives-investors-new-hope-after-fbi-raid you can bribe him by offering him an olive to garnish his Martini. The Database still exists, Sp4ke used the DB pretending to be the famous "CVC Crew" to sway Daniel Edgecombe, after checking they never published anything like that. According to some sources, after a drunken New Year, Daniel Edgecombe would have tagged near his former home "kills arabs" https://www.nicematin.com/faits-divers/photos-des-tags-racistes-incitent-a-tuer- arabs-in-a-village-in-the-alpes-maritimes-288075

(I strongly condemn racism, but I understand mr Edgecombe's anger and outburst).
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February 25, 2022, 10:16:32 PM
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$1 million stolen? Anyone have a calculator for US justice and the media? Smiley
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February 25, 2022, 10:37:59 PM
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850 000$ against liu xiuxia, is that all? Waow what special treatment, it's because she was a DGSE agent set up to suck vernon's cock in order to betray him because of suspicions of money laundering? So you can steal hundreds of millions dollars and leave the change to the victims? the American sense of justice is really very strange. Besides, we must say Li or Liu Xiuxia with all these identities, we don't really know who we are dealing with https://cointelegraph.com/news/additional-compensation-available-for-cryptsy-victims-court-notice-says It's not because you work for the DGSE the CIA or Dark Vador that you are above the law, you should never forget that  Wink

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February 25, 2022, 11:07:25 PM
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I'm still waiting for the money, no refund from Cryptsy, the people responsible for the hack will suffer a very hard dox for the Mintpal and Gatehub hack and many other hacked websites from them, you're not ready for this . this is only the beginning, repaying all the sums extorted. I would like to be clear, any attempt at intimidation, assassination, kidnapping, will be firmly punished, the previous ones were considered baby's play, the people responsible have clearly shown their incompetence in this area. Take care of yourselves my dear little ones, and don't be too sure of yourself, And as we say back home, when you steal someone else's bread don't forget to clean the table.  Kiss
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March 11, 2022, 03:48:24 AM
Last edit: March 30, 2022, 05:48:55 AM by fakecryptsynagger
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7 year's ago.
Stolen bitcoin , any plan's to return it back ??


$540 Million Worth of 'Sleeping Bitcoins' From 2014 Move — BTC Possibly Linked to Cryptsy Theft

https://news.bitcoin.com/540-million-sleeping-bitcoins-2014-move-btc-possibly-linked-to-cryptsy-theft/

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuvarAbrera/status/1508966136016437249

666 address sp, downloadable files
https://t.co/5tqR8e42gx
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April 02, 2022, 09:26:57 AM
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Great news:
https://news.bitcoin.com/540-million-sleeping-bitcoins-2014-move-btc-possibly-linked-to-cryptsy-theft/

Alleged CRYPTSY addresses linked to theft can be viewed in this transaction:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf
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April 02, 2022, 01:22:22 PM
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Already link at my post .
Not total address available
666 address record each 16 to 18
4 section  link below

https://t.co/5tqR8e42gx

A = 15 btc
B= 16
C = 17
D = 18
Spread out 11,325 ( average 17 each address )
Some ppl"s said, scene 689 address
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Already link at my post .
Not total address available
666 address record each 16 to 18
4 section  link below

https:/[Suspicious link removed]/5tqR8e42gx

A = 15 btc
B= 16
C = 17
D = 18
Spread out 11,325 ( average 17 each address )
Some ppl"s said, scene 689 address

Nice work on that csv file

Only the three original addresses have their whole balance in those initial addresses  where they were distributed:
18E3AWaadnUPQ1aMpfEoyTXN49NYAZzbpD 
1AWdxqABYiDxcY1sxzPzEotvjFjq8NUY8Z
14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9

.The rest of them have transferred the coins out again, mixed them with addresses with other coins from other transactions.

The address 1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4 which had 1325 btc, only the first 23 addresses moved the coins again.

We need to track them down constantly, despite being legal movements those addresses seems to be related with the cryptsy theft. They will try to mix them

It would be interesting to see if any final address is owned by an exchange
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April 04, 2022, 08:26:54 PM
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All funds have been moved from their 666 original addresses, the remaining coins were transferred out between yesterday and today
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All funds have been moved from their 666 original addresses, the remaining coins were transferred out between yesterday and today
Spreading on many different address 😂 now.

Big.V having back up of server data/ website code .
As we know he try ,set up  exchange in china .
 When Chinese exchange got spot light, shutdown .


 if he innocent.( Vernon )
Miami times happy to take your interview, share your info? Why kept silence  ( favourite stage )
Coin on action ( someone have control  / it's not lost or forgotten  password )

Authorities & S.law aware of this situation.

News got that MT.gox soon comings back in business
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April 08, 2022, 04:39:31 AM
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All funds have been moved from their 666 original addresses, the remaining coins were transferred out between yesterday and today
Spreading on many different address 😂 now.

Big.V having back up of server data/ website code .
As we know he try ,set up  exchange in china .
 When Chinese exchange got spot light, shutdown .


 if he innocent.( Vernon )
Miami times happy to take your interview, share your info? Why kept silence  ( favourite stage )
Coin on action ( someone have control  / it's not lost or forgotten  password )

Authorities & S.law aware of this situation.

News got that MT.gox soon comings back in business
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To be clear I only posted that as multiple people had reported to me they were seized. If they think they are seized they will give up looking/tracking.

I have confirmed there are legal team(s) working on it. No confirmation any authorities are but I would assume they keep that tight lipped.
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April 12, 2022, 08:37:28 AM
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[quote author=onehispano

If just review TJ analysis
Paul did send  more than +6k(10k)  btc into coinbase acc .
Keep it handy .
Paul possibility a silent supporter of hanker
Destroy evidence , misleading everyone ( didn't done anything solid like finding investors or try to get a single millions dollars business loan etc options )
He did complete opposite .( Intentionally dumping everything)
We believe Paul  innocent .

Paul you got too older now , don't want to end up in jail .
 going to stay in shadow forever ?







Receviership mistyped sum of Bitcoins Vernon transferred to Coinbase directly from Cryptsy - it is 11000 BTC not 1100.


One more thing on which receivership have to pay special attention:


Vernon sent on these Coinbase addresses -  1Jnz9XLNMdSyx1vPCsgQQkZYy2SrXsJcmE and 1LBDM5jvaE1e32KktyEyzWoPkY2CddUBZJ  BTCs directly from Cryptsy wallets.In total for both addresses it is 11695 BTCs.He did not changed it for 2 years,so I believe it was probably registred on Cryptsy and funds obtained from selling BTCs deposited on these addresses were probably used to pay Cryptsy and Vernon expenses in US (salaries, hardware, renting offices on Florida and Canada, buying big house, SUVs...)


But, rest of BTCs, 10012 BTCs were sent to his personal BTC wallets directly from Cryptsy wallets or from other exchanges accounts on which he was selling users altcoins for BTCs.He also sent them on Coinbase,but not on above addresses - he generated new deposit address for each transaction from personal wallets.In mine previous posts I list founded till now deposit addresses.I dont think so that Coinbase account was registred on Cryptsy,most likely it is personal account(or registred on his offshore company) .

Coinbase could give valuable help by providing list of all his money transfers - personal and business.





But,also Vernon sent BTCs from Cryptsy(and also received BTCs from selling Cryptsy altcoins on other exchanges) to his personal wallets - 9166 BTCs, where 6067 came directly from Cryptsy and 3099 from selling altcoins on other exchanges

Main addreses of these wallets are :

1MSijnGgNRFKJAMweRcPCbF8whSpdyDUkm  and    1oFmWzZRF6b2kTiTrkSJ7CQZ2JnB351oH

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14577919#msg14577919
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14572734#msg14572734


14ETojkW9Jif1N5XzMRYhjhgGZUimn7e3j

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14578716#msg14578716


1Naz8JLF8STQbZ9hqAVn8wej8pMKGW5v1x

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14579191#msg14579191



He also sent them on Coinbase and here is a list of deposit addresses he used:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14866478#msg14866478







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April 14, 2022, 01:34:24 AM
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[quote author=onehispano

If just review TJ analysis
Paul did send  more than +6k(10k)  btc into coinbase acc .
Keep it handy .
Paul possibility a silent supporter of hanker
Destroy evidence , misleading everyone ( didn't done anything solid like finding investors or try to get a single millions dollars business loan etc options )
He did complete opposite .( Intentionally dumping everything)
We believe Paul  innocent .

Paul you got too older now , don't want to end up in jail .
 going to stay in shadow forever ?







Receviership mistyped sum of Bitcoins Vernon transferred to Coinbase directly from Cryptsy - it is 11000 BTC not 1100.


One more thing on which receivership have to pay special attention:


Vernon sent on these Coinbase addresses -  1Jnz9XLNMdSyx1vPCsgQQkZYy2SrXsJcmE and 1LBDM5jvaE1e32KktyEyzWoPkY2CddUBZJ  BTCs directly from Cryptsy wallets.In total for both addresses it is 11695 BTCs.He did not changed it for 2 years,so I believe it was probably registred on Cryptsy and funds obtained from selling BTCs deposited on these addresses were probably used to pay Cryptsy and Vernon expenses in US (salaries, hardware, renting offices on Florida and Canada, buying big house, SUVs...)


But, rest of BTCs, 10012 BTCs were sent to his personal BTC wallets directly from Cryptsy wallets or from other exchanges accounts on which he was selling users altcoins for BTCs.He also sent them on Coinbase,but not on above addresses - he generated new deposit address for each transaction from personal wallets.In mine previous posts I list founded till now deposit addresses.I dont think so that Coinbase account was registred on Cryptsy,most likely it is personal account(or registred on his offshore company) .

Coinbase could give valuable help by providing list of all his money transfers - personal and business.





But,also Vernon sent BTCs from Cryptsy(and also received BTCs from selling Cryptsy altcoins on other exchanges) to his personal wallets - 9166 BTCs, where 6067 came directly from Cryptsy and 3099 from selling altcoins on other exchanges

Main addreses of these wallets are :

1MSijnGgNRFKJAMweRcPCbF8whSpdyDUkm  and    1oFmWzZRF6b2kTiTrkSJ7CQZ2JnB351oH

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14577919#msg14577919
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14572734#msg14572734


14ETojkW9Jif1N5XzMRYhjhgGZUimn7e3j

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14578716#msg14578716


1Naz8JLF8STQbZ9hqAVn8wej8pMKGW5v1x

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14579191#msg14579191



He also sent them on Coinbase and here is a list of deposit addresses he used:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14866478#msg14866478








While some or all of that could be true I nor Thunderjet have the evidence to prove it. Without the cryptsy database we dont know what happened inside Cryptsy or with account #7. Further, his findings were hit and miss. He had a bad habit of making assumptions which you can't do in this situation. For instance.

1Jnz9XLNMdSyx1vPCsgQQkZYy2SrXsJcmE and 1LBDM5jvaE1e32KktyEyzWoPkY2CddUBZJ

Are either not coinbase addresses, did not belong to an account in Paul vernons name or the name of anyone employed with Cryptsy. We looked. Either coinbase was hiding the account, it was a customer or Paul with a false identity. The last seems far fetched given his disregard for privacy with everything else.

I can assure you nothing else went to his coinbase account as I personally did the forensics. That work is what led to his indictment earlier this year.
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April 20, 2022, 05:17:12 AM
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Authorities & S.law aware of this situation.

Are you sure S.Law are aware of the situation? I haven't received any communication from them.

It seems like a weird time to move the funds of the big wallets. Knowing full well that the applicable authorities are continuing to move against Paul Vernon and co. These funds are undoubtedly being monitored and traced. We know the FBI have the tools to track funds that went through mixers. 11,000 BTC is nothing to sneeze at and we all now know the keys weren't lost.

I'm surprised the keys weren't abandoned or the funds returned.

The stolen funds started moving early 2021 per my post here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg56570148#msg56570148

Did anything ever come of those? They were traceable to multiple large exchanges - I was ignored by HitBTC when I alerted them.
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