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Author Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action  (Read 1006970 times)
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September 16, 2017, 03:27:11 AM
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September 16, 2017, 07:01:28 AM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


 
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September 16, 2017, 07:23:36 AM
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Hello.. I didn't received confirmation email for my claim form.. I wonder why still not received? I submitted screen shoot of my balance and few transactions
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September 16, 2017, 09:53:01 AM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.

Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?

On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be?  Reference number for what??
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September 16, 2017, 02:12:31 PM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.

Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?

On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be?  Reference number for what??

I had to get the W 8BEN Instructions as well : https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/form-w-8ben-certificate-of-foreign-status-of-beneficial-owner-for-united-states-tax-withholding

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September 16, 2017, 03:03:30 PM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.

Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?

On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be?  Reference number for what??

I had to get the W 8BEN Instructions as well : https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/form-w-8ben-certificate-of-foreign-status-of-beneficial-owner-for-united-states-tax-withholding

Great, thanks TommyD!

Edit: so basically I understand that #7 can be left blank and is only used if you have some special situation and need to link to another document.
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September 16, 2017, 03:13:23 PM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


I also was accepted (non US resident)
Probably sent a lot less than others, but 2 or 3 screenshots of my account balance with the "accounts are frozen" notice at the top of the page for date verification.

Why are we expected to submit a tax form when a payout is not income but merely returning to creditors what was stolen from them?

On the W-8 BEN form, any idea what Part 1 #7 is supposed to be?  Reference number for what??

I had to get the W 8BEN Instructions as well : https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/form-w-8ben-certificate-of-foreign-status-of-beneficial-owner-for-united-states-tax-withholding

Great, thanks TommyD!

Edit: so basically I understand that #7 can be left blank and is only used if you have some special situation and need to link to another document.

You're welcome. I only read it quickly so far and #7 can be left Blank

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September 16, 2017, 06:08:02 PM
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Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.

Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...
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September 16, 2017, 06:11:16 PM
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I also wonder if the claims that are being denied will add to the pool of monies the lawyers get to take... Just thinking out loud here...
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September 16, 2017, 06:13:50 PM
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I also wonder if the claims that are being denied will add to the pool of monies the lawyers get to take... Just thinking out loud here...


No...The Lawyers get 30% Max. They even reduced some fees to Maintain that.

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September 16, 2017, 06:19:54 PM
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Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.

Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...


We're dealing with Lawyers acting within the Law. Who knows if the IRS will take a chunk of our little settlements.

On a positive note, Perhaps there are some Large Legitimate Claimants who drop out of the Settlement Pool as they don't want the IRS on their ass.

The Fewer the Claimants, the Bigger the Pool.

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September 16, 2017, 09:52:17 PM
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Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.

Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...


I would NEVER fill out that form.
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September 17, 2017, 05:03:40 AM
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Wow... so I wonder if you fill out the form for the IRS if they will take 40% of the settlement amount for taxes and screw you over even harder.

Im betting that's the reason for the form anyway...


I would NEVER fill out that form.

I don't think anyone wants to. But from the wording of the email filling it out is a must. So either receive nothing or allow the US govt to put their sticky fingers on a percentage of it, whatever that may be.
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September 17, 2017, 05:54:13 AM
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For pennies on the BTC, no thanks.
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September 17, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
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and in the end, 1/2 the people who filed a claim will be accepted, then 1/2 of those wont fill out the irs form or send in the docs required to claim it... Looks like Paul is getting another big laugh out there in China
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September 17, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2017, 04:36:12 PM by Harrierx
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?
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September 17, 2017, 03:26:01 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN from?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Claim accepted, non-us citizen:

I only filled in what country i reside in (Part II, 9)

For Part II, 10: I left it open as for it's not applicable for our case.



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September 17, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN from?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Claim accepted, non-us citizen:

I only filled in what country i reside in (Part II, 9)

For Part II, 10: I left it open as for it's not applicable for our case.



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Thanks for that 4Power   Smiley
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September 17, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Not an expert but if you are non US citizen & non US resident & the country you are living in has a tax treaty with the US, then you fill in part II. Otherwise leave it blank.
I would also dispute that the returned funds should be non-taxable as returning assets/currency is not "income" but really, who knows with the US... they try to tax everything. I for one am going to contact the lawyers about it but I highly doubt anything will change.
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September 17, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Not an expert but if you are non US citizen & non US resident & the country you are living in has a tax treaty with the US, then you fill in part II. Otherwise leave it blank.
I would also dispute that the returned funds should be non-taxable as returning assets/currency is not "income" but really, who knows with the US... they try to tax everything. I for one am going to contact the lawyers about it but I highly doubt anything will change.

LOL

I live in the Netherlands.. They tax you untill you die.. and when you die, they tax your heirs Smiley
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