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September 17, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
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and in the end, 1/2 the people who filed a claim will be accepted, then 1/2 of those wont fill out the irs form or send in the docs required to claim it... Looks like Paul is getting another big laugh out there in China
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?
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September 17, 2017, 03:26:01 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN from?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Claim accepted, non-us citizen:

I only filled in what country i reside in (Part II, 9)

For Part II, 10: I left it open as for it's not applicable for our case.



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September 17, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN from?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Claim accepted, non-us citizen:

I only filled in what country i reside in (Part II, 9)

For Part II, 10: I left it open as for it's not applicable for our case.



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September 17, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Not an expert but if you are non US citizen & non US resident & the country you are living in has a tax treaty with the US, then you fill in part II. Otherwise leave it blank.
I would also dispute that the returned funds should be non-taxable as returning assets/currency is not "income" but really, who knows with the US... they try to tax everything. I for one am going to contact the lawyers about it but I highly doubt anything will change.
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September 17, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Not an expert but if you are non US citizen & non US resident & the country you are living in has a tax treaty with the US, then you fill in part II. Otherwise leave it blank.
I would also dispute that the returned funds should be non-taxable as returning assets/currency is not "income" but really, who knows with the US... they try to tax everything. I for one am going to contact the lawyers about it but I highly doubt anything will change.

LOL

I live in the Netherlands.. They tax you untill you die.. and when you die, they tax your heirs Smiley
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September 17, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
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Hello,

I sent my screenshots.
I sent all my transaction IDs.
Everything I had.

I also got an acknowledgment of receiving my email with the documents.

And now after more than 6 months they say I did not send them the data?

Is this a second scam or what?

I am not amused.

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September 17, 2017, 09:23:41 PM
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Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Not an expert but if you are non US citizen & non US resident & the country you are living in has a tax treaty with the US, then you fill in part II. Otherwise leave it blank.
I would also dispute that the returned funds should be non-taxable as returning assets/currency is not "income" but really, who knows with the US... they try to tax everything. I for one am going to contact the lawyers about it but I highly doubt anything will change.

I thought about what you said on previous occasions. Even though Governments don't Recognize Cryptocurrencies, they always have "an any income" Clause in their taxation rules.

Kinda like "other related duties" in an employment contract.

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September 17, 2017, 09:28:31 PM
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Hello,

I sent my screenshots.
I sent all my transaction IDs.
Everything I had.

I also got an acknowledgment of receiving my email with the documents.

And now after more than 6 months they say I did not send them the data?

Is this a second scam or what?

I am not amused.

Kind regards,
Zorro

I'd contact them: http://www.cryptsysettlement.com/

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September 17, 2017, 10:15:42 PM
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All I can think of is that everyone in the know (including Silver Law), knew people could get "out" of Cryptsy at a huge premium through some coins.





not sure if was in the know but i did notice a lot of chatters in the troll
box were saying you could get coins out through Dogecoin around the time when the shit hit the fan.
it's what i did and it worked. i took a haircut,but better than nothing.
what sucked was had i held the doge for  a couple of weeks longer instead of immediately dumping, i coulda
doubled my coin  as doge pumped to some ridiculous price shortly thereafter, as i recall, which would have in effect
canceled my haircut and then some.

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September 17, 2017, 10:23:03 PM
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Hello,

I sent my screenshots.
I sent all my transaction IDs.
Everything I had.

I also got an acknowledgment of receiving my email with the documents.

And now after more than 6 months they say I did not send them the data?

Is this a second scam or what?

I am not amused.

Kind regards,
Zorro

I'd contact them: http://www.cryptsysettlement.com/

Hi TheTommyD,

I called them.
The young woman on the phone told me to write a letter rather than an email.

In spite of that I wrote an email immediately and I will write a letter also.

It may be an error but if not, it would be not nice what they are doing.

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September 17, 2017, 10:26:51 PM
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All I can think of is that everyone in the know (including Silver Law), knew people could get "out" of Cryptsy at a huge premium through some coins.





not sure if was in the know but i did notice a lot of chatters in the troll
box were saying you could get coins out through Dogecoin around the time when the shit hit the fan.
it's what i did and it worked. i took a haircut,but better than nothing.
what sucked was had i held the doge for  a couple of weeks longer instead of immediately dumping, i coulda
doubled my coin  as doge pumped to some ridiculous price shortly thereafter, as i recall, which would have in effect
canceled my haircut and then some.


Ahhh...the good ol hindsight. The 110,000 ripple I had was worth 30 grand when it pumped up this past spring.

I'll probably get enough from this settlement to buy a case of American beer >)

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September 18, 2017, 02:09:08 AM
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Hi, My Name is Paul Vernon I mean Tom. I'm here today to Offer you all Redemption.

Things aren't working out well here in China.   I'm so tired of Chicks that smell like Octopus and Eating on the Floor.

I want to come Home so I've started a gofundme page.

For every Dollar I collect, I Promise to give back 50 cents towards my Litigation.

BTW I lost the Keys

Signed.

Paul Verison, Paul Vernon.

Tom

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September 18, 2017, 04:14:30 AM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

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September 18, 2017, 04:31:26 AM
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I'm from Spain should I fill out part 2? how?

I left reference number in blank

Just in case I've sent an email to the lawyers for simple instructions.
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September 18, 2017, 05:26:18 AM
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This might be looked at as a noob question, but I feel that they denied me because of my lack in English writing skills on the documentation I sent  Huh I always was that foreign kid on school who got D's and F's on essays at University level "studied in Canada". Even though I sent the screen shots + email exchanges + a video of my account.

So can some one please give me a sample of what should I write in my letter to them; then all I have to do is put the things I sent or something like that?

This is what they sent me few days back

You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv-80060-KAM (the “Lawsuit”). Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period. As a result, you do not have a Recognized Claim and will not receive a payment pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.

If you want to contest the rejection of your Claim, you must submit to the address listed below a notice and statement of reasons indicating your grounds for contesting the rejection along with any supporting documentation you believe supports your claim. You also have the right to a review by the Court. Please indicate in your submission if you are requesting a review by the Court. To support your claim, you must submit documentation such as account statements or screenshots of account holdings that sufficiently identify the type and quantity of the cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period. Your notice contesting the rejection of your Claim must be mailed by October 5, 2017 to:


     
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September 18, 2017, 05:42:05 AM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

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I have nothing to hide, you?

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September 18, 2017, 05:50:22 AM
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This might be looked at as a noob question, but I feel that they denied me because of my lack in English writing skills on the documentation I sent  Huh I always was that foreign kid on school who got D's and F's on essays at University level "studied in Canada". Even though I sent the screen shots + email exchanges + a video of my account.

So can some one please give me a sample of what should I write in my letter to them; then all I have to do is put the things I sent or something like that?

This is what they sent me few days back

You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv-80060-KAM (the “Lawsuit”). Your Claim Form was not submitted with documentation sufficient to identify the type and quantity of cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period. As a result, you do not have a Recognized Claim and will not receive a payment pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.

If you want to contest the rejection of your Claim, you must submit to the address listed below a notice and statement of reasons indicating your grounds for contesting the rejection along with any supporting documentation you believe supports your claim. You also have the right to a review by the Court. Please indicate in your submission if you are requesting a review by the Court. To support your claim, you must submit documentation such as account statements or screenshots of account holdings that sufficiently identify the type and quantity of the cryptocurrency held at Cryptsy during the class period. Your notice contesting the rejection of your Claim must be mailed by October 5, 2017 to:


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September 18, 2017, 05:51:18 AM
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My Claim form has been accepted too.

Non US resident.

I've sent all my screenshots of my stuck balances, copy of identication, Adressess and Tier 2 acceptance mails and all the mails between me and Crypsty servicedesk.

I had 7.6 btc over there.

4Power.


 

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September 18, 2017, 02:10:54 PM
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Some useful links:

Instructions for Form W-8BEN: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/iw8ben.pdf
Tax Treaty Table: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/Tax_Treaty_Table_3.pdf

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