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December 28, 2017, 12:01:45 AM
Last edit: December 28, 2017, 12:18:28 AM by mymenace
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https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf




Total Input    $ 174,793,238.15 USD

18E3AWaadnUPQ1aMpfEoyTXN49NYAZzbpD $ 15,434,150.00
1DSxcqygQ69MxRc8oW94kQjWHzMb4BYsnG $ 15,434,150.00
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww $ 15,434,150.00
13nAJw8jw7BiYKLnad9YGdPxybK9mgPkM6 $ 15,434,150.00
1DqCNwUffFTxULH8crehynw53TwrHnrv1c $ 15,434,150.00
1AWdxqABYiDxcY1sxzPzEotvjFjq8NUY8Z $ 15,434,150.00
18nb1NQCeoZLucMdrNdu2wb7jcyDvSgr3Y $ 1,483.22
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV $ 15,434,150.00
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb $ 15,434,150.00
14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9 $ 15,434,150.00
1315LzDFcBLDBKgVAr4ZhCkcT5GXivpiuj $ 15,434,150.00
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4 $ 20,450,248.75


Total Input    11,325.0965 BTC

18E3AWaadnUPQ1aMpfEoyTXN49NYAZzbpD 1,000 BTC
1DSxcqygQ69MxRc8oW94kQjWHzMb4BYsnG 1,000 BTC
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww 1,000 BTC
13nAJw8jw7BiYKLnad9YGdPxybK9mgPkM6 1,000 BTC
1DqCNwUffFTxULH8crehynw53TwrHnrv1c 1,000 BTC
1AWdxqABYiDxcY1sxzPzEotvjFjq8NUY8Z 1,000 BTC
18nb1NQCeoZLucMdrNdu2wb7jcyDvSgr3Y 0.0961 BTC
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV 1,000 BTC
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb 1,000 BTC
14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9 1,000 BTC
1315LzDFcBLDBKgVAr4ZhCkcT5GXivpiuj 1,000 BTC
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4 1,325 BTC


That looks to me like one huge commission for a contract - who wouldn't pay to get their coins back?

News items might be able to help
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg26279842#msg26279842

happy treasure hunting....



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December 28, 2017, 02:27:41 AM
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good idea, are you reading this Paul?

Why doesn't Paul make a deal with the American law, if it was him I would go to the court asking how many got accepted to the settlement "it is probably way lower than 11300 BTC" go to jail for a year after giving like 9000 BTC's back and after one year he goes out with 2300 BTC's and he can actually walk free around he's own country meeting he's own family? That's of course if it was him + he has the wallet. 

His ex-wife got the house & painted over all the keys on his man cave wall.   Grin
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December 28, 2017, 05:36:08 AM
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https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf




Total Input    $ 174,793,238.15 USD

18E3AWaadnUPQ1aMpfEoyTXN49NYAZzbpD $ 15,434,150.00
1DSxcqygQ69MxRc8oW94kQjWHzMb4BYsnG $ 15,434,150.00
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww $ 15,434,150.00
13nAJw8jw7BiYKLnad9YGdPxybK9mgPkM6 $ 15,434,150.00
1DqCNwUffFTxULH8crehynw53TwrHnrv1c $ 15,434,150.00
1AWdxqABYiDxcY1sxzPzEotvjFjq8NUY8Z $ 15,434,150.00
18nb1NQCeoZLucMdrNdu2wb7jcyDvSgr3Y $ 1,483.22
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV $ 15,434,150.00
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb $ 15,434,150.00
14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9 $ 15,434,150.00
1315LzDFcBLDBKgVAr4ZhCkcT5GXivpiuj $ 15,434,150.00
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4 $ 20,450,248.75


Total Input    11,325.0965 BTC

18E3AWaadnUPQ1aMpfEoyTXN49NYAZzbpD 1,000 BTC
1DSxcqygQ69MxRc8oW94kQjWHzMb4BYsnG 1,000 BTC
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww 1,000 BTC
13nAJw8jw7BiYKLnad9YGdPxybK9mgPkM6 1,000 BTC
1DqCNwUffFTxULH8crehynw53TwrHnrv1c 1,000 BTC
1AWdxqABYiDxcY1sxzPzEotvjFjq8NUY8Z 1,000 BTC
18nb1NQCeoZLucMdrNdu2wb7jcyDvSgr3Y 0.0961 BTC
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV 1,000 BTC
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb 1,000 BTC
14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9 1,000 BTC
1315LzDFcBLDBKgVAr4ZhCkcT5GXivpiuj 1,000 BTC
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4 1,325 BTC


That looks to me like one huge commission for a contract - who wouldn't pay to get their coins back?

News items might be able to help
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg26279842#msg26279842

happy treasure hunting....



https://paulvernoncryptsy.wordpress.com/category/society/

There's still the question why fincen didn.t respond
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December 28, 2017, 05:43:42 AM
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https://paulvernoncryptsy.wordpress.com/category/society/

There's still the question why fincen didn.t respond


I don't know why but this just makes me laugh. Cheesy

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Paul Vernon of Cryptsy is the company's Chief Executive Officer. He says that Cryptsy provides a safe environment for users to trade crypto-currencies with other users in an efficient and easy way. Crypsty is currently registered with FinCEN and is working toward state licensing as a money transmitter. Paul Vernon says Cryptsy is also working toward accreditation by the Better Business Bureau, and says that Cryptsy is a solid and reputable company.

Maybe because for almost a year a bunch of us were telling people to get of that scam exchange and all I can think of for them not heeding that warning is their greed kept them there. There was a reason we were calling it Craptsy.

Kind of reminds me of the Bob surplus crew getting scammed while trying to scam others. I warned those coin holders as well.

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Paul Vernon of Cryptsy is the company's Chief Executive Officer. He says that Cryptsy provides a safe environment for users to trade crypto-currencies with other users in an efficient and easy way. Crypsty is currently registered with FinCEN and is working toward state licensing as a money transmitter. Paul Vernon says Cryptsy is also working toward accreditation by the Better Business Bureau, and says that Cryptsy is a solid and reputable company.

I had expected more from FINCEN.  https://www.fincen.gov/resources/international-programs
Government and fincen do not pay any attention to this case
Now the IRS can see which users (if they made a claim)  where on the site, and how much money they had parked at crypsty
To my knowledge Paul is still an American citizen, who can still be traced by the government”.
Has there already been an investigation request made internationally to arrest Paul?
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Paul Vernon of Cryptsy is the company's Chief Executive Officer. He says that Cryptsy provides a safe environment for users to trade crypto-currencies with other users in an efficient and easy way. Crypsty is currently registered with FinCEN and is working toward state licensing as a money transmitter. Paul Vernon says Cryptsy is also working toward accreditation by the Better Business Bureau, and says that Cryptsy is a solid and reputable company.

I had expected more from FINCEN.  https://www.fincen.gov/resources/international-programs
Government and fincen do not pay any attention to this case
Now the IRS can see which users (if they made a claim)  where on the site, and how much money they had parked at crypsty
To my knowledge Paul is still an American citizen, who can still be traced by the government”.
Has there already been an investigation request made internationally to arrest Paul?


It is a hard lesson, but once you learn the government is the last place that is going to help, you can start finding other ways to get your money back

the steps are good to go through in case they get it right, but more often than not it is deliberately wrong

good thing is all transactions can be followed, at any time the gov decides to go after it, they will find everyone

you can find them too, follow the money


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January 02, 2018, 03:03:46 AM
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"Dear Paul,

I expect you to transfer my 7.6 BTC which you are still holding AND my 7.6 BCH (August fork) to my adresses:  BTC: 1EYE415vGCNWvQWiokWbu9ySJ6GnoNQfej and BCH: 12uWkmrtmyKJyGZUFqWW8y2UZW9ZJghEMJ".

Many thanks in advance for Hodling our coins, as for they are worth much more now."



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Dear 4power
Will return your coins as soon as I find that naughty rascal who hacked our trusty exchange.
Meanwhile please send any hot tips and link to this thread to your local law enforcment.
They'll get right on it......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywJoDoaoaO0

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let the games begin...

Horus

You want proof?))) In the last 20 minutes: Horus confessed in chat about the theft and shortage on the accounts balances.

PROJECT INVESTORS, INC. d/b/a CRYPTSY, a Florida corporation,
PAUL VERNON, an individual,
Shanghai Sharks Shandong Golden Stars
currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.17) Last Active: 12-17-2017


LORIE ANN NETTLES, an individual, RIDGEWOOD INVESTMENTS, INC., a New Jersey corporation, and  KAUSHAL MAJMUDAR, individually

https://coinjournal.net/cryptsy-paul-vernon-exchange-china/

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If you still hold funds on an exchange and you're not actively trading those funds, you stand to lose it all with no recourse. Get out of Bittrex, get out of Poloniex, and especially get out of Bitfinex.



time for a bump treasure hunters

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

Total Input    $ 153,417,118.50




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PAUL VERNON, an individual,
Shanghai Sharks Shandong Golden Stars
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January 02, 2018, 06:09:35 PM
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let the games begin...

Horus

You want proof?))) In the last 20 minutes: Horus confessed in chat about the theft and shortage on the accounts balances.

PROJECT INVESTORS, INC. d/b/a CRYPTSY, a Florida corporation,
PAUL VERNON, an individual,
Shanghai Sharks Shandong Golden Stars
currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.17) Last Active: 12-17-2017


LORIE ANN NETTLES, an individual, RIDGEWOOD INVESTMENTS, INC., a New Jersey corporation, and  KAUSHAL MAJMUDAR, individually

https://coinjournal.net/cryptsy-paul-vernon-exchange-china/

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Cryptsy Implodes with Bizarre Blog Statement


If you still hold funds on an exchange and you're not actively trading those funds, you stand to lose it all with no recourse. Get out of Bittrex, get out of Poloniex, and especially get out of Bitfinex.



time for a bump treasure hunters

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

Total Input    $ 153,417,118.50



Add this link to Marshall Long vitals: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303147.0

In re the U$153M sum, at one point it was over U$200M not counting BCH, Bitcoin Gold, and all the alts, but rest assured that Paul Vernon is still looking into "The Event" (helluva name for a crypto movie).

I still can't get over how Lorie Nettles was versed in intelligence in the US Army but didn't have a fuckin clue as to what her husband was doin' in spite of her and him owning past entities that scammed their former user base. Hey, maybe Paul took a page out of Sonny Vleisides' book and convinced her that he's "on a good track now."

Further, I'm still taken aback that Jeff Ownby of Sonny's BFL used to work for the same outfit that BitJohn's grandfather founded. What are the fuckin odds with that? The same as Jeff and Sonny operating legit sportsbooks?

And if you think that's crazy, wait till you read about two dudes killing themselves after helping start LFC ran by Sonny and his real dad, James Ray Houston ...

And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of  Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself....

Four founders at a bridge including Sonny and his dad. Two jumped. Guess which two didn't.

Don't worry, it gets crazier. Another dude affiliated with LFC supposedly died in Costa Rica. I, among reliable others, believe he's still alive. What was his claim of fame, you ask? This (among others): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#The_End_of_Ordinary_Money

JOG was also editor of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Laissez_Faire_City_Times. Who do you think was the original editor? Hint: Sonny Vleisides.

Now, if you or I ripped off the elderly to the tune of U$50M, what do you think are sentence would be once caught? In Sonny's case, a U$100 (not a misprint) fine and three years probation. What happened when Sonny broke his probation again? Two more years of probation and a promise that he'll end up behind bars. What happened when Sonny broke his subsequent probation?

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It is incredible how big names in the crypto world can just run away... People is still the weakest link in the chain and even though currency is decentralized everything is still based on trusting someone
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It is incredible how big names in the crypto world can just run away... People is still the weakest link in the chain and even though currency is decentralized everything is still based on trusting someone

Look fincen is acting in 2014 on ripple ? document of a fine for not registering at fincen?
https://www.coindesk.com/fincen-fines-ripple-labs-700000-bank-secrecy-act/
 it looks like a registering  is the key word at fincen, so cryptsy was ok according them.
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PROJECT INVESTORS, INC. d/b/a CRYPTSY, a Florida corporation,
PAUL VERNON, an individual,
Shanghai Sharks Shandong Golden Stars
currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.17) Last Active: 12-17-2017


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What do mean with shanghai sharks? last activity 12-172017?

stuff i heard, an event that was attended, last known activity on this board

also heard when ex cryptsy associates and affiliates start showin up here, it is sign somethings happening

 
if I am right have your btc address handy, donations for everyone

they have all benefited of this theft and have made a nice profit in 2017


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PROJECT INVESTORS, INC. d/b/a CRYPTSY, a Florida corporation,
PAUL VERNON, an individual,
Shanghai Sharks Shandong Golden Stars
currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.17) Last Active: 12-17-2017


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What do mean with shanghai sharks? last activity 12-172017?

stuff i heard, an event that was attended, last known activity on this board

also heard when ex cryptsy associates and affiliates start showin up here, it is sign somethings happening

 
if I am right have your btc address handy, donations for everyone

they have all benefited of this theft and have made a nice profit in 2017



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PROJECT INVESTORS, INC. d/b/a CRYPTSY, a Florida corporation,
PAUL VERNON, an individual,
Shanghai Sharks Shandong Golden Stars
currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.17) Last Active: 12-17-2017


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What do mean with shanghai sharks? last activity 12-172017?

stuff i heard, an event that was attended, last known activity on this board

also heard when ex cryptsy associates and affiliates start showin up here, it is sign somethings happening

 
if I am right have your btc address handy, donations for everyone

they have all benefited of this theft and have made a nice profit in 2017




be cool if if you could escrow on the cryptsy fund being bandied around Gleb

then these thieves can start donating before someone shows up






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PROJECT INVESTORS, INC. d/b/a CRYPTSY, a Florida corporation,
PAUL VERNON, an individual,
Shanghai Sharks Shandong Golden Stars
currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.17) Last Active: 12-17-2017


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What do mean with shanghai sharks? last activity 12-172017?

stuff i heard, an event that was attended, last known activity on this board

also heard when ex cryptsy associates and affiliates start showin up here, it is sign somethings happening

 
if I am right have your btc address handy, donations for everyone

they have all benefited of this theft and have made a nice profit in 2017




be cool if if you could escrow on the cryptsy fund being bandied around Gleb

then these thieves can start donating before someone shows up



I'm (this is Gleb in case you're not versed) still waiting for you to comment on my LFC et al. post above the fold a tad.

If you don't, then I won't retell the story about the [supposed] first U$1M worth of BTC transaction. Hint: The cake's a lie.

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let the games begin...

Horus

You want proof?))) In the last 20 minutes: Horus confessed in chat about the theft and shortage on the accounts balances.

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If you still hold funds on an exchange and you're not actively trading those funds, you stand to lose it all with no recourse. Get out of Bittrex, get out of Poloniex, and especially get out of Bitfinex.



time for a bump treasure hunters

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

Total Input    $ 153,417,118.50



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In re the U$153M sum, at one point it was over U$200M not counting BCH, Bitcoin Gold, and all the alts, but rest assured that Paul Vernon is still looking into "The Event" (helluva name for a crypto movie).

I still can't get over how Lorie Nettles was versed in intelligence in the US Army but didn't have a fuckin clue as to what her husband was doin' in spite of her and him owning past entities that scammed their former user base. Hey, maybe Paul took a page out of Sonny Vleisides' book and convinced her that he's "on a good track now."

Further, I'm still taken aback that Jeff Ownby of Sonny's BFL used to work for the same outfit that BitJohn's grandfather founded. What are the fuckin odds with that? The same as Jeff and Sonny operating legit sportsbooks?

And if you think that's crazy, wait till you read about two dudes killing themselves after helping start LFC ran by Sonny and his real dad, James Ray Houston ...

And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of  Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself....

Four founders at a bridge including Sonny and his dad. Two jumped. Guess which two didn't.

Don't worry, it gets crazier. Another dude affiliated with LFC supposedly died in Costa Rica. I, among reliable others, believe he's still alive. What was his claim of fame, you ask? This (among others): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#The_End_of_Ordinary_Money

JOG was also editor of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#Laissez_Faire_City_Times. Who do you think was the original editor? Hint: Sonny Vleisides.

Now, if you or I ripped off the elderly to the tune of U$50M, what do you think are sentence would be once caught? In Sonny's case, a U$100 (not a misprint) fine and three years probation. What happened when Sonny broke his probation again? Two more years of probation and a promise that he'll end up behind bars. What happened when Sonny broke his subsequent probation?

<insert image of crickets here>

Nothing much happened, have not seen all the reports or news though, follow the legal teams and judges history, you will be surprised at the accusations against these legal representatives

In 2016, the company settled a multimillion dollar legal case for just $15,000, due in part to the limited financial resources of alleged owner Sonny Vleisides.

Obvious Sonny has some backing from some despicable people, So does Paul

These thefts and scams were done by idiots and left evidence everywhere

So why are they not in Jail - back table deals (ohhhh!!! how do we get in on this too - or were in on it)  

In matter of fact the thieves lose all control over their lives and are used and used until the money dries up

Only validation in the whole thing

And people gonna lose rep due to association, the internet community does not forget


If anybody wants to go after other thieves - the ones who assist Paul, cryptsy, bfl, sonny etc - follow their handlers

Paul association was with military and fbi - start there

Sonny is with legal fraternity swamp monsters and politicians


...."Grabbe reported that he received information from highly credible sources about unsavory acts made by highly placed persons in the marketplace. He stated that he was approached by official representatives seeking his assistance by covertly gathering financial information from his network of customers."...

...."His research led him to the serious study of cryptography"....

Collaborates with above
What happens when you do not comply with the "Market Manipulators"





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It's amazing the transition.

Everyone including myself refers to the BTC that were stolen.

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

It's actually the alts he stole that would be worth much more today.

If I'd lost 5 BTC with cryptsy I'd be out around $75,000 USD today.

The 110,000 xrp I lost are now worth $358,600 USD today. Same for many other coins I'm sure.

In all the Lawyers Documents, and this thread, I've never heard how much or what happened to the Ripple.

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Why doesn't Paul make a deal with the American law, if it was him I would go to the court asking how many got accepted to the settlement "it is probably way lower than 11300 BTC" go to jail for a year after giving like 9000 BTC's back and after one year he goes out with 2300 BTC's and he can actually walk free around he's own country meeting he's own family? That's of course if it was him + he has the wallet. 

Why on earth would he do that?

Right now, he gets to live out his life in another country without spending a year in jail, and if he still has the keys to the stolen bitcoins he could spend them all, any time he wants.



I just thought of something. It's possible that in all of Paul's haste, he accidently rid the private keys with no chance of gaining access to the loot, hence opting for another heist not as lucrative but highly profitable nonetheless.

Unless he's a total fuckin idiot in wanting it all, he's original plan may have been to sit on the original stolen loot, then organically close down Cryptsy with minimum repercussions on his part. But when/if the mega loot was lost, he had to plan and implement another heist.

Just noticed this on the CryptCoin thread. Crypt was the original Scam coin of Cryptsy and now has its coins moved from the Cryptsy address. Not sure if this is real but the Dev is forking due to it...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881008.msg27297415#msg27297415
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It's amazing the transition.

Everyone including myself refers to the BTC that were stolen.

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

It's actually the alts he stole that would be worth much more today.

If I'd lost 5 BTC with cryptsy I'd be out around $75,000 USD today.

The 110,000 xrp I lost are now worth $358,600 USD today. Same for many other coins I'm sure.

In all the Lawyers Documents, and this thread, I've never heard how much or what happened to the Ripple.

I also lost xrp    with a total  value above 200k,    the laywer didnt replied on the mail  with th  wallet  of ripple from cryptsy.
Xrp   is centralized Huh  so al user  can be identfied??
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