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October 31, 2017, 01:28:57 AM
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oops, i was also looking forward to  a Nadal v. Fed part 5 as the year needs that to climax it successfully . Too bad he couldn't make it but Rafa  shouldn't think he's going to win it easily and be taken by surprise.
Indoor hardcourt it is, a fair number of players can beat him on such conditions, let's not forget Nadal has ONE title on indoor hardcourt, won in ... 2005!! He is vulnerable. Could lose to Goffin (if Goffin is healthy), Dimitrov (despite his recent wins over him), Querrey, Del Potro (if not tired  Cheesy), Pouille, even Verdasco. I am curious to see how he looks against Chung who is no joke this year.
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October 31, 2017, 08:04:50 PM
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oops, i was also looking forward to  a Nadal v. Fed part 5 as the year needs that to climax it successfully . Too bad he couldn't make it but Rafa  shouldn't think he's going to win it easily and be taken by surprise.
Indoor hardcourt it is, a fair number of players can beat him on such conditions, let's not forget Nadal has ONE title on indoor hardcourt, won in ... 2005!! He is vulnerable. Could lose to Goffin (if Goffin is healthy), Dimitrov (despite his recent wins over him), Querrey, Del Potro (if not tired  Cheesy), Pouille, even Verdasco. I am curious to see how he looks against Chung who is no joke this year.
We could see Federer vs Nadal part 5 on atp Finales in London. I think that Rogers body is not in the condition to play entire year on the highest competitive level and he must set up priorities to him self. Paris and London is too much for him sice it is the end of the season.
I agree, Paris is very fast this year, Nadal could have a potential problem with some of the players but Query is no longer in that circle of players. He lost today , defeated by Serbian player Krajinovic. It is so unexpected because Query had a chance to qualify for the Final in London. He should`ve done better.
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October 31, 2017, 09:09:52 PM
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oops, i was also looking forward to  a Nadal v. Fed part 5 as the year needs that to climax it successfully . Too bad he couldn't make it but Rafa  shouldn't think he's going to win it easily and be taken by surprise.
Indoor hardcourt it is, a fair number of players can beat him on such conditions, let's not forget Nadal has ONE title on indoor hardcourt, won in ... 2005!! He is vulnerable. Could lose to Goffin (if Goffin is healthy), Dimitrov (despite his recent wins over him), Querrey, Del Potro (if not tired  Cheesy), Pouille, even Verdasco. I am curious to see how he looks against Chung who is no joke this year.
We could see Federer vs Nadal part 5 on atp Finales in London. I think that Rogers body is not in the condition to play entire year on the highest competitive level and he must set up priorities to him self. Paris and London is too much for him sice it is the end of the season.
I agree, Paris is very fast this year, Nadal could have a potential problem with some of the players but Query is no longer in that circle of players. He lost today , defeated by Serbian player Krajinovic. It is so unexpected because Query had a chance to qualify for the Final in London. He should`ve done better.

Correct, that's why Federer is taking much vacation to heal his body and only prioritizes tournament. Just like you I'm really looking forward to another Federer Nadal classic. I guess Query is not his old self because he is defeated by Krajinovic which for me is a unknown. This what separate a great champion from a great tennis player. A great champion plays consistent while a great tennis player doesn't have that.
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November 01, 2017, 12:05:42 AM
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Next week the atp ranking will be upset!
Murray will lose 2500 points and Djokovic will lose about 1200 points and both will be out of the top 10!
Many players will make their best rankings:
A.Zverev third, Thiem fourth, Dimitrov at least sixth
Best rankings also for Goffin, Carreno Busta and Querrey.
Del Potro can return in top 10

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November 01, 2017, 05:59:03 AM
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Next week the atp ranking will be upset!
Murray will lose 2500 points and Djokovic will lose about 1200 points and both will be out of the top 10!
Many players will make their best rankings:
A.Zverev third, Thiem fourth, Dimitrov at least sixth
Best rankings also for Goffin, Carreno Busta and Querrey.
Del Potro can return in top 10

Wow. What a huge shake up in the Tennis ranking next week. Sad to say Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic go out early this year, but its really nice to see other players stepping up while they are gone and show casing their tennis prowess. I'm sure that the two will be back with a vengeance next year, so its gonna be a good year in 2018. Wish the best for the two, hope they overcome they injuries and personal issues so that they can come back healthy and hungrier.

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November 01, 2017, 06:09:26 AM
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I am really not sure about Andy Murray, hip surgery is something, Gustavo Kuerten went through the same and had a hard time coming back to his best. + Andy Murray relies too much on his movement, he is incredibly fast but once he gets slower, he is vulnerable and lose to many guys.
It was obvious that he was in big pain against Querrey at Wimbledon, I mean you don't lose 1-6, 1-6 in last two sets at Wimbledon if you are healthy.

Novak Djokovic is a huge questionmark for me, I mean I follow tennis since he started and this guy still is an enigma for me, I never can tell if he is faking or genuine on the court, and I have no idea why his form went suddenly down the hill. He was almost unbeatable in 2015, and looked so ordinary after winning the French Open last year.

Del Potro is technically top 10 for me, and I would say top 5 since August. He did not play on clay this season, hence his ranking.

Disappointed with Thiem, he is so good on clay but so average everywhere else, World Tour Finals could be brutal for him.

I miss Nishikori, my favorite player together with Nadal, but he is been through so many injuries that I doubt he ever comes back to his 2014 form.
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November 02, 2017, 01:25:38 PM
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Really sad to see Djokovic going out of top 10 after a decade Sad What a great player. I hope he will be back to top 3 ( which he deserves ) by next year end . Congrats Nadal for his 4th Year-End number 1 Smiley What a Legend.



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November 02, 2017, 02:12:29 PM
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Really sad to see Djokovic going out of top 10 after a decade Sad What a great player. I hope he will be back to top 3 ( which he deserves ) by next year end . Congrats Nadal for his 4th Year-End number 1 Smiley What a Legend.
I am happy Nadal back his form after his worst performance in last year. But I also sad to see that a no one player is came down under 10th rank. I think he need some rest.
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November 02, 2017, 02:23:07 PM
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There are already 6 mathematically qualified players at the upcoming London Atp Finals:

1)Nadal     10555
2)Federer    9005
3)A.Zverev 4410
4)Thiem     3815
5)Cilic        3715
6)Dimitrov 3650

For the 2 places available, these players are in the fight:

Goffin               2975 (at the third round in Paris Bercy
Carreno-Busta 2615  (already eliminated in Paris Bercy)
Del Potro         2595  (in the quarterfinals in Paris Bercy)
Pouille             2235  (at the third round in Paris Bercy)
Bautista           2015  (at the third round in Paris Bercy)
Isner                 1995  ((at the third round in Paris Bercy)
Sock                 1855   (at the third round in Paris Bercy)

Goffin should qualify without problems.

CarrenoBusta ,virtually eighth but already eliminated in Paris Bercy, risk not to qualify if:

-Del Potro arrives in the semi-finals
-Pouille arrives in the final
-Bautista, Isner or Sock wins the tournament

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November 02, 2017, 02:43:50 PM
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I am really not sure about Andy Murray, hip surgery is something, Gustavo Kuerten went through the same and had a hard time coming back to his best. + Andy Murray relies too much on his movement, he is incredibly fast but once he gets slower, he is vulnerable and lose to many guys.
It was obvious that he was in big pain against Querrey at Wimbledon, I mean you don't lose 1-6, 1-6 in last two sets at Wimbledon if you are healthy.

Novak Djokovic is a huge questionmark for me, I mean I follow tennis since he started and this guy still is an enigma for me, I never can tell if he is faking or genuine on the court, and I have no idea why his form went suddenly down the hill. He was almost unbeatable in 2015, and looked so ordinary after winning the French Open last year.

Del Potro is technically top 10 for me, and I would say top 5 since August. He did not play on clay this season, hence his ranking.

Disappointed with Thiem, he is so good on clay but so average everywhere else, World Tour Finals could be brutal for him.

I miss Nishikori, my favorite player together with Nadal, but he is been through so many injuries that I doubt he ever comes back to his 2014 form.

Oh yeah, I remember Gustavo Kuerten very much, who wouldn't remember that hair.  Smiley

But I totally agree with you Gustavo was never been the same after that surgery and slowly he was lost in the tennis limelight until he show in the Rio Olympics, he was one of the truly greats when we was at his peak of the game.

For Novak though, I think he was gone a lot of changes this year and for me its more on a psychological barrier that he needs to overcome. Just one championship will change the complexion and he can regain his old self.









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November 02, 2017, 11:51:00 PM
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Here are the quarter-finals of the Paris-Bercy atp 1000 master tournament:

Nadal vs Krajinovic
Isner vs Del Potro

Cilic vs Bennetau
Verdasco vs Sock

I expect these 2 semifinals: Nadal vs Del Potro and Cilic vs Sock

Even Goffin, is mathematically qualified at London's atp finals.


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November 03, 2017, 07:41:04 AM
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Here are the quarter-finals of the Paris-Bercy atp 1000 master tournament:

Nadal vs Krajinovic
Isner vs Del Potro

Cilic vs Bennetau
Verdasco vs Sock

I expect these 2 semifinals: Nadal vs Del Potro and Cilic vs Sock

Even Goffin, is mathematically qualified at London's atp finals.


The big surprise is Benneteau! Beating Tsonga and Goffin back to back, who would have thought?!

Nadal looked bad yesterday and apparently has (again) a sore knee. I don't fancy his chances to win the title here, and World tour finals next week.
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Here are the quarter-finals of the Paris-Bercy atp 1000 master tournament:

Nadal vs Krajinovic
Isner vs Del Potro

Cilic vs Bennetau
Verdasco vs Sock

I expect these 2 semifinals: Nadal vs Del Potro and Cilic vs Sock

Even Goffin, is mathematically qualified at London's atp finals.


The big surprise is Benneteau! Beating Tsonga and Goffin back to back, who would have thought?!

Nadal looked bad yesterday and apparently has (again) a sore knee. I don't fancy his chances to win the title here, and World tour finals next week.

I think that Nadal, having had this week's math certainty of ending the season at first place in the atp ranking, has last seasonal goal to win at least 1 match against Federer!
I'm convinced he wants to win the Atp Finals in London.
In that case his season would be perfect.

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November 03, 2017, 05:38:03 PM
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World number one Rafael Nadal has withdrawn from the Paris Masters with a knee injury.
The Spaniard was due to face Serb Filip Krajinovic in the quarter-finals on Friday, but pulled out with a right knee problem before the match.
Krajinovic will play in his first ATP Semi final. I think he can surprise there.
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November 03, 2017, 11:04:51 PM
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projection ranking atp:

1.Nadal     10645 (in any case will close the season in this position)
2.Federer    9005 (in any case will close the season in this position)
3.A.Zverev 4410  (best ranking)
4.Thiem      3815  (best ranking)
5.Cilic         3805
6.Dimitrov  3650 (best ranking)
7.Wawrinka 3150
8.Goffin       2975 (best ranking)

-Carreno-Busta: is 9th(best ranking) if Isner or Sock does not win the tournament otherwise it is 10th.
-Del Potro:  is 10th if Isner or Sock does not win the tournament otherwise it is 11th.
-Isner: if he wins the tournament is 9th
-Sock: if he wins the tournament is 9th (best ranking).




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World number one Rafael Nadal has withdrawn from the Paris Masters with a knee injury.
The Spaniard was due to face Serb Filip Krajinovic in the quarter-finals on Friday, but pulled out with a right knee problem before the match.
Krajinovic will play in his first ATP Semi final. I think he can surprise there.
He is not even sure about London Sad I feel sorry for him , he had such a great season he deserves to play in London . Isner is in great form right now beating Dimitrov , Del potro in Paris and looks like he might take the title .



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November 04, 2017, 05:59:26 AM
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World number one Rafael Nadal has withdrawn from the Paris Masters with a knee injury.
The Spaniard was due to face Serb Filip Krajinovic in the quarter-finals on Friday, but pulled out with a right knee problem before the match.
Krajinovic will play in his first ATP Semi final. I think he can surprise there.
He is not even sure about London Sad I feel sorry for him , he had such a great season he deserves to play in London . Isner is in great form right now beating Dimitrov , Del potro in Paris and looks like he might take the title .

What a surprise. Oh well, age is really catching up with them specially Nadal and Federer and I think its a good decision on him to withdrawn and not risk it all. We all know that a knee injury is serious for tennis players, so I'm with him taking a break. Now the tournament is open without him, can't really see who is going to win, I wouldn't surprise if Krajinovic win it, however, there are still big names out there that will take advantage of Rafa leaving the game.

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Just put a big bet on John Isner @ 1.35 to beat Krajinovic, can't imagine the latter in the final of a Masters 1000 event.
Isner has the experience, only questionmark is his fitness (three 3 setters in a row), but his game is not too taxing, should be a lock for the final.

I would love Benneteau to win the title though  Smiley
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November 04, 2017, 11:41:57 AM
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Just put a big bet on John Isner @ 1.35 to beat Krajinovic, can't imagine the latter in the final of a Masters 1000 event.
Isner has the experience, only questionmark is his fitness (three 3 setters in a row), but his game is not too taxing, should be a lock for the final.

I would love Benneteau to win the title though  Smiley

I also think Isner will win, but will not place a bet on the match, as I am not sure how fit Isner is (played with strapping above his knee).

Hopefully Nadal will be back soon so that we can see him in London.



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November 04, 2017, 12:27:55 PM
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World number one Rafael Nadal has withdrawn from the Paris Masters with a knee injury.
The Spaniard was due to face Serb Filip Krajinovic in the quarter-finals on Friday, but pulled out with a right knee problem before the match.
Krajinovic will play in his first ATP Semi final. I think he can surprise there.

 - Krajinovic is a very talented tennis player and he expects bright future if he continues playing like this.
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