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FIVETHIRTYEIGHT PROJECTION OF TOP 8 SEEDS IN THE WEST
1. HOUSTON ROCKETS 2. DENVER NUGGETS 3. LA LAKERS 4. GS WARRIORS 5. UTAH JAZZ 6. LA CLIPPERS 7. DALLAS MAVERICKS 8. NEW ORLEANS PELICANS
JALEN ROSE'S PROJECTION OF TOP 8 SEEDS IN THE WEST
1. HOUSTON ROCKETS 2. DENVER NUGGETS 3. LA CLIPPERS 4. PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS 5. LA LAKERS 6. UTAH JAZZ 7. GS WARRIORS 8. SA SPURS
Take a pick or create your own top 8.
Dallas and Pelicans aint on Jalen's projection while Spurs and Trail Blazers is not of fivethirtyeight. For me, Jalen's projection is more reliable than the other. Surely, they forget about Spurs and Portland there. They are hyping Dallas too much and also the rookie Zion of Pelicans with the young guns.
I will just adjust Jalen's projection as Jazz and Spurs on the 7th and 8th seed while Portalnd at 6 and Lakers and Warriors fighting for the 4th seed.
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angel55
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July 17, 2019, 06:01:21 PM |
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Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
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July 17, 2019, 07:09:53 PM |
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Everybody wants their rematch. I bet even the Warriors and Sixers wants that chance to get their revenge on Kahwi with the Raptors. Everybody is talking about how Giannis would improve next season and I also hope he does because the Sixers will definitely be a tough competition. I would not be sleeping on that Celtics team also now that they got Kyrie out. Giannis needs to keep improving he's still young and have a big future ahead, if he will start showcasing his talents again the Bucks can get higher chances to win the East side not unless sixers and Celtics have their own versions of becoming the super team coaches will try building as much better system for much better chemistry.
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July 17, 2019, 07:34:10 PM |
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Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
He is basing it on the way the team in West are stacking up, Lebron, Kawhi in LA uniforms now. Plus GSW also overall their second unit so it make sense that they're no longer the favourites and possible to drop at the 7th-8th spot. But I'm sure they could make the playoff but it will be difficult to go to the WCF. I really don't understand why Houston is on top, yes they have one of the best duo, but it's not yet proven, as compare to Lillard and Mccollum.
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July 17, 2019, 08:11:13 PM |
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It's still early I guess for those bad speculations, I just want to see this tandem click.
Hopefully because it's both MVP playing together and this team has been in the WCF once, so in order to see some improvement, they need to be in the Finals. I think it's still possible, but let's see... I still have to remain optimistic for their chance, seeing new team in the NBA Finals would be more fun. Yeah we must be optimistic because even ho great these guys are still they will playing together for the first time so the chance of not getting alone is there so maybe it’s too early to predict but for me there’s a lot of problem will come along the way until they get their good partnership in this team together I don't want to expect big, I didn't say that but if they will manage to reach the finals it's not just improvement that came to them. But the tandem and the chemistry for the team did really clicked. I'm now seeing those streamers telling their opinions about the roster for Rockets and all they say that this is the new Lakers. Seems like everyone is expecting big with this tandem but there's more to go for the league and more interesting trades are happening. Yup, the Bucks didn't change anything, I mean why fix it if it is not broken? I think that's the management's philosophy and it was very clear that they are going to go and try their best again and reach the finals in the East. And since Kawhi is already out of the East, Bucks will be the team to beat in the EC. They don't care much about the trade, they could be concern how to be consistent and improved their chances by keeping the core line up. They are the dark horse last season and probably they are very much satisfied with what they've achieved. And that means that they are doing good with the current roster they have. We still don't have news regarding the intense trade and signing of superstars to different teams and they have nothing to say about it now at least. They are growing together and most of their players are very well disciplined and wanting to achieved the trophy next season together.
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July 17, 2019, 08:14:52 PM |
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Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
He is basing it on the way the team in West are stacking up, Lebron, Kawhi in LA uniforms now. Plus GSW also overall their second unit so it make sense that they're no longer the favourites and possible to drop at the 7th-8th spot. But I'm sure they could make the playoff but it will be difficult to go to the WCF. I really don't understand why Houston is on top, yes they have one of the best duo, but it's not yet proven, as compare to Lillard and Mccollum. True but Jalen also have some good points here. You could watch it here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZeVXapIPCE&t=257sHis points are Lebron not finishing 82 games just like last year which is true and that is why he put Lakers at 5th seed. Same with Clippers with Kawhi missing 20 games. GSW without Klay Thompson. So chances are it will be Denver at top or it will be Houston if they just keep on doing what they have done last year. Looks like they are not being affected by the addition of Westbrook at all. (they = NBA analysts) We have different looks here. It will just be a prediction though. We will see it when the season starts. I want to see Dallas making it to the 8th spot at least.
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July 17, 2019, 09:33:46 PM |
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Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
I favor the list of Jalen. He is right that Lebron is already old and may probably rest more and not play all 82 games. He cannot play like he played in Cavs where he plays 40-minute games without injury. Even if he stays healthy, the team will rest them to stay healthy for the playoffs. But I believe nuggets will be the top seed for the west because they are younger and have more chemistry than HOU.
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July 17, 2019, 09:45:33 PM |
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Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
He is basing it on the way the team in West are stacking up, Lebron, Kawhi in LA uniforms now. Plus GSW also overall their second unit so it make sense that they're no longer the favourites and possible to drop at the 7th-8th spot. But I'm sure they could make the playoff but it will be difficult to go to the WCF. I really don't understand why Houston is on top, yes they have one of the best duo, but it's not yet proven, as compare to Lillard and Mccollum. True but Jalen also have some good points here. You could watch it here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZeVXapIPCE&t=257sHis points are Lebron not finishing 82 games just like last year which is true and that is why he put Lakers at 5th seed. Same with Clippers with Kawhi missing 20 games. GSW without Klay Thompson. So chances are it will be Denver at top or it will be Houston if they just keep on doing what they have done last year. Looks like they are not being affected by the addition of Westbrook at all. (they = NBA analysts) We have different looks here. It will just be a prediction though. We will see it when the season starts. I want to see Dallas making it to the 8th spot at least. Fair point. But as a fan, we are leaning towards the "not so good" Houston because of the pairing of the two ball hoggers in the NBA. As fans we've seen them grown individually, but being in the same team? We all have our doubts. Of course we can't discounted the fact that injuries could happen to Lebron or Kawhi again. But if they remain healthy, I don't think that Houston can be the number one seed in the West.
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July 17, 2019, 11:18:43 PM |
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Everybody wants their rematch. I bet even the Warriors and Sixers wants that chance to get their revenge on Kahwi with the Raptors. Everybody is talking about how Giannis would improve next season and I also hope he does because the Sixers will definitely be a tough competition. I would not be sleeping on that Celtics team also now that they got Kyrie out. Giannis needs to keep improving he's still young and have a big future ahead, if he will start showcasing his talents again the Bucks can get higher chances to win the East side not unless sixers and Celtics have their own versions of becoming the super team coaches will try building as much better system for much better chemistry. Celtics already did revamped their team, main core is gone already so I don't think that they are going to be a big challenge in the East. Sixers with how Joel reacted with the lost to Toronto will proved something this year. So for me they are the one who's going to challenge Bucks and Giannis for supremacy in their conference.
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July 17, 2019, 11:33:50 PM |
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What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen.
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@Lan75. To gather more clicks hehe. Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
He is basing it on the way the team in West are stacking up, Lebron, Kawhi in LA uniforms now. Plus GSW also overall their second unit so it make sense that they're no longer the favourites and possible to drop at the 7th-8th spot. But I'm sure they could make the playoff but it will be difficult to go to the WCF. I really don't understand why Houston is on top, yes they have one of the best duo, but it's not yet proven, as compare to Lillard and Mccollum. It is only a projection. He might also be a Rockets fan hehehe. However, the Clippers is the top favorite to win the 2020 NBA title according to the sportsbooks. 4.16 odds for the Clippers and 12.0 odds for the Rockets in Cloudbet.
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July 18, 2019, 06:12:54 AM |
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~snip~
What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen. They should be wrong, the Warriors are well disrespected here, they've been in many championships so I don't think they will easily just give up their pride even without Durant. I'm also surprise with the prediction of in the top 1, both predicted the Rockets to be in the top spot, I think it's not likely to happen, I still think Lakers or Clippers are also a better team.
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July 18, 2019, 09:12:00 AM |
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Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen.
It's okay if they haven't tested yet, we're approaching the beginning stage of the season so we will definitely see on how they will be tested. The name's is on the hot seat so expect that there will be tremendous predictions that are trusting the tandem. This is not new just like what we've seen last season when Lebron has been transferred to Lakers. I agree that they are both good individiually but they have all the time to adjust and see if they can work together.
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July 18, 2019, 09:28:48 AM |
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~snip~
What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen. They should be wrong, the Warriors are well disrespected here, they've been in many championships so I don't think they will easily just give up their pride even without Durant. I think they are not disrespecting the Warriors, it is just that, it is shown on the last game they have without Kevin Durant. It is true that they are in the Finals for a lot of times but the time is changing and that is the same with the teams too. They will be facing great teams and that is not the same in the past. This time, it is like a tag-team battle and there are a lot of teams that has their own pair. GSW is said to have Thompson and Curry and they have a lot of opponents to beat.
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July 18, 2019, 11:49:20 AM |
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~snip~
What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen. They should be wrong, the Warriors are well disrespected here, they've been in many championships so I don't think they will easily just give up their pride even without Durant. I think they are not disrespecting the Warriors, it is just that, it is shown on the last game they have without Kevin Durant. It is true that they are in the Finals for a lot of times but the time is changing and that is the same with the teams too. They will be facing great teams and that is not the same in the past. This time, it is like a tag-team battle and there are a lot of teams that has their own pair. GSW is said to have Thompson and Curry and they have a lot of opponents to beat. Warriors loss against the Raptors because they are not healthy, Thompson was a big reason why they loss, if he was not injured, I don't know if it's still the same outcome. Durant was out in the Rockets series, but in the WCF even without Durant, they dominated the Blazers, that's how good they are.
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July 18, 2019, 12:24:06 PM |
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Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
I favor the list of Jalen. He is right that Lebron is already old and may probably rest more and not play all 82 games. He cannot play like he played in Cavs where he plays 40-minute games without injury. Even if he stays healthy, the team will rest them to stay healthy for the playoffs. But I believe nuggets will be the top seed for the west because they are younger and have more chemistry than HOU. Even most young healthy players don't play all 82 games anymore. This is a different era of the NBA and it is much more critical to be rested and healthy in the playoffs instead of trying to grind out homecourt advantage. In the 2004-2005 season Lebron led the league with 42.4 mpg and in 2017-2018 he led the league with 36.9 so you can see the play time dropping for league leaders.
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July 18, 2019, 12:44:24 PM |
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Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference. I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.
I favor the list of Jalen. He is right that Lebron is already old and may probably rest more and not play all 82 games. He cannot play like he played in Cavs where he plays 40-minute games without injury. Even if he stays healthy, the team will rest them to stay healthy for the playoffs. But I believe nuggets will be the top seed for the west because they are younger and have more chemistry than HOU. Even most young healthy players don't play all 82 games anymore. This is a different era of the NBA and it is much more critical to be rested and healthy in the playoffs instead of trying to grind out homecourt advantage. In the 2004-2005 season Lebron led the league with 42.4 mpg and in 2017-2018 he led the league with 36.9 so you can see the play time dropping for league leaders. Any other people here agree that houston will be the top seed in the west this year? Does the addition of westbrook boost their bid that much? I doubt. I've got at least the clippers, the lakers and the warriors above the rockets this year. And pelicans over san antonio? Or the blazers? The hype on williamso, ball ingram and company are real. Goodluck if they even manage to reach the playoffs this year.
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July 18, 2019, 12:54:32 PM |
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Fair point. But as a fan, we are leaning towards the "not so good" Houston because of the pairing of the two ball hoggers in the NBA. As fans we've seen them grown individually, but being in the same team? We all have our doubts.
Of course we can't discounted the fact that injuries could happen to Lebron or Kawhi again. But if they remain healthy, I don't think that Houston can be the number one seed in the West.
Good one. I forgot to add that Harden almost perfect playing the whole regular season. 78. There is the point of Jalen. As of winning the game because of the conflict of two ball hog then maybe Mike D'Antoni is already preparing for that. As long as both are playing healthy then it is still a good sign to be in the number 1 seed. ~
Everybody wants their rematch. I bet even the Warriors and Sixers wants that chance to get their revenge on Kahwi with the Raptors. Everybody is talking about how Giannis would improve next season and I also hope he does because the Sixers will definitely be a tough competition. I would not be sleeping on that Celtics team also now that they got Kyrie out. Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control. It will be a different story.
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July 18, 2019, 01:24:43 PM |
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Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control. It will be a different story.
They were doing great when Kyrie was out. I haven't heard Kemba being a locker room diva like Kyrie and I expect him to blend well with the relatively young Celtics lads. As I said, other teams can't sleep on them. They're deadly.
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July 18, 2019, 01:51:26 PM |
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I favor the list of Jalen. He is right that Lebron is already old and may probably rest more and not play all 82 games. He cannot play like he played in Cavs where he plays 40-minute games without injury. Even if he stays healthy, the team will rest them to stay healthy for the playoffs.
If I'm not mistaken it's only the season 2017-2018 where LeBron played the whole 82 games and averages almost 40 minutes a game. The poor performance of the Cavs roster back then is the reason and he stays healthy the whole season. So in here, I don't take that as a basis for Jalen's analysis. His current teammates in Lakers is way different to that 2017-18 Cavs lineup. And if LeBron got injured again like what happened last season, Lakers still can remain competitive. But I agree that some of Jalen's pointers do have sense. Well, he is a longtime NBA analyst. I just don't want to hear Charles Barkley's prediction nor his analysis lol.
Any other people here agree that houston will be the top seed in the west this year? Does the addition of westbrook boost their bid that much? I doubt. I've got at least the clippers, the lakers and the warriors above the rockets this year. And pelicans over san antonio? Or the blazers? The hype on williamso, ball ingram and company are real. Goodluck if they even manage to reach the playoffs this year.
I don't see any valid analysis yet why Westbrook and Harden are not compatible. All I read is "ball hog" which is out of the context. These two sure knows what to do "better than us". In general, Westbrook's addition increase Rocket's offensive power as no doubt his penetrating skills and athleticism is impressive. But I don't take that as a basis that they will be the top team in the West. Honestly, next season is unpredictable. The analysis will just remain analysis.
What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen.
As a regular NBA analyst, it's common for them to make predictions. He is also a co-host in a sports TV show.
Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control. It will be a different story.
Kyrie will be the leader of Brooklyn Nets next season and will be their main choice for offense. No solid lineups, solid teammates, no superstars, all-stars but purely role players and some average guys that make some playoffs experience last year. He just needs to stay healthy the whole season or Nets will be doomed.
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